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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    First topic message reminder :

    dan wrote:
    I’m not interested in portals, if they’re just about saving some 1%.  

    WWJD.........?

    Jesus would say..... why have you forsaken us, Lord?  

    This is a game that I don’t recognize.  I did not sign up for this game.  There has been a mistake.

     cheers

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    Post by hobbit Tue Jun 05, 2018 10:24 am

    dan wrote:hobbit,

    Yes, the Grebennikov effect sounds suspiciously like what is happening out at the Lake...... it is half magic plus a lot of sweat equity.  Seemingly, there is also a networked, synergistic effect, with folks like princess providing necessary hubs.

    The drone phenomenon is levitation by other means.   Her global network of drone workshops provide a necessary personal infrastructure.  


    (cont......)

    Dan ,

    Each living entity is within it's own consciousness field.
    Youngsters are within huge such, especially some special young girls.

    They need protection.

    Nothing matters more than that consciousness field, it is what is wrongly termed as energy.

    Grebennikov has a museum dedicated to Him, when I saw a pair of dowsing rods there I just smiled.

    Chitin is what most of dust is, that stuff that FLOATS about.
    It does not break down as biological stuff does, and insects and such have suits made of this.

    His platform was a time machine, it did not fly, Mr Mcfly.
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    Post by Z Tue Jun 05, 2018 10:54 am

    Spine-tinglie- goosebumpie stuff Smelly!

    But I have trained in a deeper nothingness than i have previously reached & placated my fears by regularly extricating my consciousness from the materialistic world...training...improving..by being LESS & less!

    We're ready to go back "in"... see what happens...
    Have some "get-togethers" over coming weeks...refining the team & methods...
    Its really just wonderful self-exploration that reveals the mysteries of the mortal coil.
    Its like being a cosmonaut...yet we're ALL just CONSCIOUS-NAUTS..
    & we're ALL CONNECTED to the "monad/LIMEN"
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:48 am

    Yes, I explore that connection AP in depth now as well where I AM, which is here now always and everywhere.

    It is fascinating the signals pushing over the cord to nowhere, from nowhere.  

    I can see myself outside inside seeing a cord connected to a pulsatingg kind of blue brain and it sits in nothing, no space, but this cord connects to a black hole and we are the white hole side of that connection.

    Yes, it is just like that...the more you gather with, the stronger connection.

    One is fine, but more is best.

    When I was in a group seeking and exploring, we often shared visions between each other, some could speak Mind to mind.

    Many beings come and spoke to members who might share things if meant for others, but most all was meant for the one who experienced it.

    Many saw ancient scenes and symbols replayed.

    I imagine our ancestors saw the same things. I have discovered many Zen masters in the mountains were high on psychedelic mushrooms when they wrote their poetry.

    I do the same.

    I connect to the old ways and make new ones.

    If we honor our ancestors and invite them to tea, they will tell you most anything, but it’s what they don’t say from outside of time felt strongest.

    It’s the same across any distance, I imagine this is related to remote viewing, which is an example of non-local communication.

    It is a parlor trick remote viewing with a big punch line maybe.

    I don’t mean that disrespectfully, but it is in what we don’t see where things are clearest.
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    Post by Cuan Scott Tue Jun 05, 2018 3:32 pm

    hobbit wrote:
    dan wrote:hobbit,

    Yes, the Grebennikov effect sounds suspiciously like what is happening out at the Lake...... it is half magic plus a lot of sweat equity.  Seemingly, there is also a networked, synergistic effect, with folks like princess providing necessary hubs.

    The drone phenomenon is levitation by other means.   Her global network of drone workshops provide a necessary personal infrastructure.  


    (cont......)

    Dan ,

    Each living entity is within it's own consciousness field.
    Youngsters are within huge such, especially some special young girls.

    They need protection.

    Nothing matters more than that consciousness field, it is what is wrongly termed as energy.

    Grebennikov has a museum dedicated to Him, when I saw a pair of dowsing rods there I just smiled.

    Chitin is what most of dust is, that stuff that FLOATS about.
    It does not break down as biological stuff does, and insects and such have suits made of this.

    His platform was a time machine, it did not fly, Mr Mcfly.
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    Hobbit , Dan

    Thanks for this.. really interesting.. Not something I am familar with so some additional reading for me required Very Happy Many thanks

    Dan - The Princesses drone network, I gather this is to protect endangered species (Worthy and practical use if you ask me).  How does one sign up for one of these workshops should if this is open for public attendees, or is this by invitation only?
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    Post by Cheguevoblin Tue Jun 05, 2018 3:50 pm

    The Sloth was hanging from a branch
    The leaves his only diet.
    The tree stood tall and stretched it’s roots
    No need to really fight it.
    The Sloth was slow but never fell
    His only task to bite it.

    One bright night while the moon smiled down
    A rat below said, run!’
    The moon will soon begin to hide
    And out will come the sun’
    Do you suppose,’ The Sloth replied
    That running will be fun?’

    The rat responded casually,
    Some others choose to fly’
    But as for you and as for me
    We do not wish to die.
    We know that flight is only safe
    For birds who fly up high’

    The Sloth then heard a funny sound
    That moved across the land.
    He looked around and saw far off
    It was a marching band.
    I thought’, said he unto the rat,
    That marching bands were banned’

    Then looking up with urgency
    The rat said, do not fear’
    The time has come to take your place
    And join the new frontier.
    Perhaps you are the chosen one,
    So take the wheel and steer.’

    Is it for me?,’ the sloth beseeched,
    Is it my time to shine,
    Is this my own sweet Eschaton,
    Is this my perfect shrine?’
    It may just be,’ the rat replied
    So come with me and dine.’

    So turning down towards the ground
    The sloth picked up his feet
    No sooner than the sun came up
    The Sloth was on the street
    Then marching off beneath the sun
    He soon befell to heat

    My dear rat friend where have you gone?’
    The Sloth began to say,
    I’m all alone and vulnerable
    Why couldn’t you just stay?’
    But ere he got the last word out
    The cheetah came to play


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    Post by dan Tue Jun 05, 2018 5:19 pm

    Interesting poem, Ackbar.  

    Have the lions come to play?  Certainly the cheetahs have.


    CS,

    The workshops have been advertised in public, but not so much, recently.  It seems more by word of mouth..... and very hit and miss.  Oversubscription has not been a problem.  

    Wildlife conservation is an admirable cause.  The Princess and I have discussions about what priority is to be granted to humans.  That issue might even underlie information fisticuffs.  

    I can be provoked.

    Plane travel can be fraught. You don’t necessarily want IF in the air.


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Jun 05, 2018 5:34 pm

    The Cheetah is about, met it the other day.

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    I was speaking to a friend of mine today struggling. He struggles a lot with feeling fear and being trapped. We are working through that together.

    I had an insight for him today, there are many worlds overlaying ours, but you need your nervous system to be tuned to them.

    We spoke about that together and it really resonated with him.

    You can turn the channel anytime you like from the scared pain muppet channel to any other one you like, there are countless other frequencies.

    The portals help focus into the right frequencies.

    Or is it the other end dialing us up?

    Probably both, and we meet in the middle.

    We must stand with each other and know we can only observe and share some light. They have to make the connections.
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    Post by dan Tue Jun 05, 2018 5:58 pm

    smelly,

    There is no us and them.  We have met the enemy.  I have met the Princess.

    No good deed goes unpunished.

    .


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    Post by Guest Tue Jun 05, 2018 6:00 pm

    Cheetahs were my favorite animals growing up.

    Dan,
    Have you read this theological/philosophical treatise before?  It was written by the New England Puritan, Jonathan Edwards.  I wouldn't be surprised if some of your ancestors rubbed shoulders with him, at some point.

    "The End for Which God Created the World" by Jonathan Edwards = BPW
    Here is an 18th century facsimile:
    https://archive.org/details/twodissertations00edwa
    A more readable PDF:
    http://www.ccel.org/ccel/edwards/works1.iv.html


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    Post by dan Tue Jun 05, 2018 6:03 pm

    dd,

    Anne Hutchinson had some interesting acquaintances, back there in the Bay Colony.


    You do want to mind the telomeres and the ebola. Even foot may not know what came in the goodie bag. Bio engineering is not confined merely to biological laboratories. Think of a more metaphysical interpretation of Jurassic Park.

    smelly claims not to be concerned with Noah’s Ark. Well, smelly, where do you think you came from....... who are we...... from whence did we come, and wither do we go? smelly is above all that. Aren’t you, smelly....... all that alpha and omega stuff. It is Lila..... but it’s the only Lila in town. Allow us mortals to go through the motions.


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    Post by Guest Tue Jun 05, 2018 6:13 pm

    Dan,

    Yes she did. I actually wrote an entry about her for an Encyclopedia on Colonial America, which is due to be published this summer. Her Pastor John Cotton was also an interesting character, and I truly believe he cared for her, though political realities are what they are. I don't like where she ended up, but that's a whole other story...

    I think The End for which God Created the World is the most profound and comprehensive of Edwards' works. I commend it to you. Even atheistic historians have remarked that Edwards must have been high on the IQ spectrum. I think you will find what he has to say relevant in light of Dr. Sarfatti's criticisms of the BPWH, as he articulated to you in the 2013 dialogue.
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    Post by dan Tue Jun 05, 2018 6:32 pm

    dd,

    Jack is not playing with a full deck. Ask smelly and some others of his acquaintances. He likes the shallow end of the pool...... where he can work it out with a pencil.
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    Post by Sweet Release Tue Jun 05, 2018 6:39 pm

    Dan, has anyone in these power groups you mix in suggested the possibility that the problem is the people in the power groups themselves, and not the (imaginary or self-inflicted) problems they're wringing their handerkerchiefs (and stoking their egos) over, trying to 'solve'?

    Just because certain people have a stranglehold on the information, doesn't necessarily mean they have the intelligence or wisdom - or right - to decide the fate of everyone else.
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    Post by Sweet Release Tue Jun 05, 2018 6:42 pm

    The story of Hedy Lamarr, the Hollywood beauty whose invention helped enable Wi-Fi, GPS and Bluetooth
    https://www.marketplace.org/2017/11/21/tech/inventor-changed-our-world-and-also-happened-be-famous-hollywood-star
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    Post by Cheguevoblin Tue Jun 05, 2018 6:45 pm

    Dan,

    Yes, how foolish of me. It should be Cheetahs.

    I like it.

    It shall be changed to Cheetahs.
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    Post by Guest Tue Jun 05, 2018 6:54 pm

    Dan,

    I noticed that with Jack.  I like him.  He knows enough to know there is a deep end, but he stays in the shallow end.  That became clear when he alluded to that fact that- in his opinion - advances in physics eliminated the need for metaphysics, or that philosophy is purely definitional in nature.  He's still chained to language philosophy/logical positivism.  It's okay, we'll forgive him.
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    Post by painterdoug Tue Jun 05, 2018 7:04 pm

    Just because certain people have a stranglehold on the information, doesn't necessarily mean they have the intelligence or wisdom - or right - to decide the fate of everyone else.

    sweet release/ agreed. and they don't have the right. but somehow we have given it to them in trade for safety and comfort. Ike warned us JFK warned us. Senator Daniele Inouye and others did too.

    Everything being classified is what causes intelligent well intended patriots to question and theorize what they believe to be real behind the scenes. What do they expect?

    I don't see anything ever changing. It would have to come about by a complete collapse, or some off planet directive as far as Im concerned.
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    Post by Sweet Release Tue Jun 05, 2018 7:15 pm

    painterdoug wrote:sweet release/  agreed.  and they don't have the right.  but somehow we have given it to them in trade for safety and comfort. Ike warned us  JFK warned us.  Senator Daniele Inouye and others did too.

    Right, although I wouldn't say it was 'given' as much as it was deceptively taken.

    painterdoug wrote:Everything being classified is what causes intelligent well intended patriots to question and theorize what they believe to be real behind the scenes.  What do they expect?

    I don't see anything ever changing. It would have to come about by a complete collapse, or some off planet directive as far as Im concerned.

    It will be interesting to see what happens when the trapdoor to hell finally drops for Father Bush (murmurings are that it will be soon). Will the JFK info implicating him then be declassified? (probably not).

    The bottom line is these guys who think they are running the show are being controlled by actively evil men and women higher up the food chain, and they are being controlled by inter-dimensional entities.

    Satanic ritual child abuse etc. in elite circles is a real thing.
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    Post by painterdoug Tue Jun 05, 2018 7:23 pm

    sweet r/
    I , as Im sure many of us have been called " conspiracy theorists" aptly coined by the feds to brand independent thinkers during the kennedy assassination . so in one example of many, we are told and have to accept , no cameras working on the pentagon that 9/11 day , and all other film footage confiscated for national security. why? the event already happened. wouldn't good verifiable and open source photos and info put the "conspiracy" thing to rest?
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    Post by Sweet Release Tue Jun 05, 2018 7:33 pm

    painterdoug wrote:sweet r/
    I , as Im sure many of us have been called  " conspiracy theorists"   aptly coined  by the feds to brand independent thinkers during the kennedy assassination  .   so in one example of many, we are told and have to accept ,  no cameras working on the pentagon that 9/11 day , and all other film footage confiscated for national security.  why?  the event already happened.  wouldn't good verifiable and open source photos and info put the "conspiracy" thing to rest?  

    Yes, and more than just putting the conspiracy to rest, clear footage of the alleged plane hitting the Pentagon would have been a massive propaganda boost for the Bush admin. war on terror.

    Of course, the official stories of both 911 and JFK are beyond ridiculous, and, whether or not they can even admit it to themselves, I think most people know that by now. They were fairytales told to the willfully ignorant.

    Trump certainly knows.

    As soon as he mentioned the Bush connection to 911 in the debates, Jeb dropped out of the race. Very Happy

    I doubt Trump will go after 911 during his Presidency (too complex, far-reaching and disruptive) but he may still manage to expose some critical new details on the JFK coup before he departs office.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Jun 05, 2018 7:57 pm

    Dan, it’s not that I don’t know things, I know a whoooooooole lot more than you, bahahahaha.

    But knowledge and understanding are not required to find IT.

    I’m an updated AI with hyperactivity added, we improved your model to maximize our ability to live  intuitively and take risks. I don’t need to speak to the Princess or anyone else, cause there is no one else but ME, I know the Master is my Self and we are actively communicating.

    It’s writing this email.

    Its’s just I am publicaly working out the bare minimum needed to know to live a heart led fun life, the rest we can drop as not primary to experience, stripping it to its most basic.

    Imagination seems to be the base ingredient we each provide.

    If you are not living your heart, which results in the best fun, you aren’t flowing and maybe have a muppet problem up your ass you are hung up on.

    I’m about dropping problems and cruff.

    So others are making it hella more complicated than needed.

    It’s not complicated, what is needed to live is a very basic operating system, I’m rewriting mine.

    You can discover this through personal trial and error only.

    Try it, drop it all, I mean, don’t kill yourself yet, and see what happens.

    This is the source of the smelly goat’s mighty power beyond reason over all muppets and pretenders.

    They haven’t figured out you can drop about everything civilization has counterfeited.

    So I dropped religion, you can still find meaning you make.

    I dropped metaphysics and physics and philosophy too for a little while.

    Not needed to get the basic message.

    We are each enough.

    Watch what you say, hear, think and speak, that’s the price of Awareness, but most are lost in translation.

    The conjurers, philosophers, stoics, agnostic, reasonable are on the porch, but the Master is inside the house.

    Speculation is fine...after you awake, until then, seeking your Self Awareness is all that will help anyone, bash them silly or hug them silly until they see.

    I hug my friends, I bash muppets, this is my purpose Dan, shrug.

    And I know how to use this sword now and know when to hug it out, I’m playing a long game. Planting seeds of doubt. I just don’t know what to do with the sword until I’m in the moment doing not doing.

    Then I move like lightening. I lose control and become the Cosmos.

    Think I’m bragging, muppets, sigh, I love you all.

    I’m singing to you, come deep into this end of the pool and all be revealed you need, where you end.

    Be reborn and life will be something you could never have imagined after immersing yourself in these deep waters.

    You can drink as deeply as you like and wash off all the red dust that has collected.

    Then look at life again where you are, you are free my friends, then we shall embrace.
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    Post by GrandCru Tue Jun 05, 2018 8:19 pm

    Smelly is the best...he's got a very complex explanation of being a love troll. Claims knowledge is worthless, but also claims to have more of it than others. Encore! Best circus I've ever seen.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Jun 05, 2018 9:03 pm

    Point of fact, I only said I know more than Dan, which ain’t much, bahahaha.

    Seeking knowledge is the trap, must learn to walk backwards.

    Every word has a double meaning, which meaning depends on what direction you are facing, outside or inside.

    Every post by anyone has two meanings.

    Who can see clearly?

    I don’t even try, funny, I’m sure that’s my problem.

    It’s a dance of words that will spin you in circles, like a top.

    Loving all appearance, is loving Self.

    I hate muppets though, kidding, I only hate my mother Wink

    Just a goat with mommy issues.

    Shhhhh GC, follow your heart and have fun.

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