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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Wed Feb 14, 2018 7:51 am

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    99,

    I would give him a bit more credit than that.  

    In the Endtimes, the news will become the entertainment, and the entertainment will become the news.  

    God = +0.  We = God.  God = us....... in the End.

    And, please, 99, don’t tell me about the SoT.  [You are welcome to put your annotations in brackets.]




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    Post by dan Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:22 am

    Wonderful.......

    Now what advice do we have to offer to bill?

    He’ll be in the thick of this, much worse than any of us.

    What we are dealing with is chicken feed.


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    Post by 99 Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:23 am

    Well at least I'm getting some bizarre photographic material on it but I've stopped recording video's and taking pics but I'm afraid what will show up in them.

    But I like to record songs that's I've created. When I practice singing and recording those songs, they come in in real time into those recordings!

    They claim they are my deceased relatives and friends but I know who they really are.

    Other times there are voices that don't even say who they are.

    Oh, sometimes they even change what I'm singing in the song. It's really bizarre. Let me tell you!
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    Post by hobbit Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:30 am

    99 wrote:Yes, on rare occasions, they try to enter me if I'm in an altered state of consciousness in that between waking state. I have a daimon. She says my name to wake up when they try to do that. She will keep saying my name to wake me up and sometimes she will tell me to LEAVE THE ROOM.

    This is my life and like I said before, I wouldn't wish it on anyone.

    There is a straight forward method in dealing with such.
    You need to recognise that You are within Your own unique consciousness field.
    Then focus on its edge and think a shield , a white shield about You.
    No-thing can penetrate this.

    Or you may like been a victim?
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    Post by dan Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:33 am

    I gather, 99, that you are living alone.

    This is not good.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:34 am

    Alright Bill, here is my advice, meager and occluded as it is...

    - Don’t fight, period. Use the opposite energy, they push, pull, they pull, give.
    - Light your lantern Fool. Venture into the invisible prepared.
    - Increase virtue, clean up your house. Have dedicated personal focus tools.
    - Learn from and consult experts and Masters of the Darkness
    - Talk to them, what do they want, what do they need.

    And always remember, you can’t cheat, only be elevated or destroyed.

    What you sew, you will reap, this is their primary message.

    We sewed much negativity, how does that get resolved, shrug.

    They want you to stop judging externals and fear using our own power.

    My two cents.


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    Post by 99 Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:35 am

    Yes, the white light visualizations. Nope, it doesn't work. As for me liking to be the victim. Well, obviously this is the kind of stuff that I have to keep to myself. Who am I going to talk to about it? A psychiatrist? lol

    Also, I don't think I'm special. lol
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    Thanks for your suggestions Smelly.


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    Post by dan Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:37 am

    Ok, smelly, but how do we translate this into bureaucratese?

    What I’m trying to say, 99, is that you need intensive, personal care.

    But, unless you wake up to the fact, 99, that yours is not the biggest problem we have here.

    If you can’t rise to that understanding, you will only be a drag, here.

    You need intensive, personal care. We can do that over the internet.



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:38 am

    Show them respect, not fear or greed.

    We have to respect ourselves first to do this.

    What could we do to be respectful to our people, be open, be honest, be loving, have compassion.

    You think they will talk to a den of scared greedy humans?

    They will spank them.

    You can only do this if you respect yourself as a child of Creation.

    If you know that and walk thusly, you shall go far.

    They ignore higharchy because they see who people are even if mankind doesn’t.

    I don’t work for the govt Dan, I don’t know what to say to those fools Wink
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    Post by hobbit Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:43 am

    99 wrote:Yes, the white light visualizations. Nope, it doesn't work. As for me liking to be the victim. Well, obviously this is the kind of stuff that I have to keep to myself. Who am I going to talk to about it? A psychiatrist? lol

    Also, I don't think I'm special. lol
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    Thanks for your suggestions Smelly.

    It does work.
    But it needs intent.
    The self same with transferring consciousness ( what do You think the story of Jesus is all about?
    , not miracles, shamanic knowledge.)

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    Post by dan Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:45 am

    That is very poor advice, smelly. You should know it.
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    Post by 99 Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:51 am

    It would be interesting to see if anyone here can facilitate in my efforts to END THIS.

    For that to happen, it would be like getting my life back again regardless that I'm so used to it now... I don't know what else to say.

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    Thanks for your suggestions Hobbit. They are good ones.

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    Also, Dan, I understand what you're saying and I don't want to be a drag here either. Like you said, there are more important matters that are being addressed here in this forum than anything that I've described here about my ongoing experiences.

    Believe it or not, none of this stuff has destabilized me. It's just part of my life but this is not to say that I like it and I think I've already expressed that view very clearly.

    Yes Dan, I live alone.

    Also, it's been going on for several years... not just a few. I don't want to make it sound any worse than it is.

    Ok... over a decade even. There you have it.
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    Post by 99 Sun Feb 18, 2018 12:38 pm

    Ok, let's just drop the subject, I've gotten a lot interesting advice here on what to try and alternative approaches to 'it'. Thank you very much! I really appreciate it and I didn't mean to draw attention to it as this is the kind of stuff I don't like to talk about. For obvious reasons.

    What I have learned from my experiences. We are not alone. There are intelligences that co-exist with us. Most of the time they are unseen, but sometimes not and sometimes they can be recorded photographically and via audio recordings too. Are they evil? Only in the sense that they will not leave me alone so because of that, I wouldn't call them benign, they are very stubborn...  and that odor that they give off is horrible.

    I will not hijack this forum any of this any longer. Thanks again for the input.

    Also, if anyone is concerned about my presence here wrt what I have been going through. Well... if I sense that it might be a problem, then I will simply leave. No problem. I understand.


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Feb 18, 2018 12:38 pm

    I meant we are all fools.

    Nothing personal to Bill.

    99, just relax and let it happen is my approach, not for everyone.

    There is much written on how to deal with these forces.

    A helpful field guide I have found to be helpful.

    I recommend this to anyone struggling with forces daimonic.

    Remember from fairy tales, the thing LEAST regarded ends up being the most important thing.

    I cannot stress this principle enough.

    For someone to manage this, they must think and act against their conditioning to test the impulse in them.

    99, Patrick can help you and us here.



    Forget managing Magick, you are managing Daimons that can’t be managed.

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    Post by dan Sun Feb 18, 2018 12:46 pm

    Thank you for the timely correction, smell.
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    Post by 99 Sun Feb 18, 2018 12:52 pm

    Will check out that info now. Thanks! Smile ha, ha, I'll give you guys a break now. Talk later!
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Feb 18, 2018 1:08 pm

    I’ll say this to all here on OMF, so listen.

    The Daimon is real and part of our key.

    It seem impossible, irrational and maybe sinister.

    We have lost an ambiguity about reality an openness to IT and science has filled in nicely.

    There are very small and big things that will bump into you in the dark.

    Prepare yourselves.

    I’ll do my best to translate to muggle for Dan.

    These worlds have never been able to mix really in the open in the modern age since Christianity took hold.

    Are the UTs us or Daimon, yes.

    For Humanity is Daimonic, though we won’t pull the covers down and admit it.

    When I was a boy, the Dark came to me powerfully, but I was afraid.

    Lights in my room, balls of light in the closet, horrible daimonic dreams.

    Arms coming out of the wall.

    How can I prepare a govt dude for arms coming out of the wall?

    It happens.

    Listen to the cries of the daimonic Earth....

    https://konekrusoskronos.wordpress.com/2018/01/30/we-live-in-eden-but-what-are-we-doing-with-it/

    This guy, is a great esoteric and social blogger as well.

    https://konekrusoskronos.wordpress.com/2011/11/09/dreams-visions-symbols-of-the-theophanyc-image-within/

    https://konekrusoskronos.wordpress.com/2011/07/13/the-postmodern-age-and-the-quest-for-a-new-pardigm/
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    Post by dan Sun Feb 18, 2018 1:50 pm

    Slight correction, smelly.......

    This is not to prepare the govt guy. It’s to help the g-guy help us to prepare........ without touching the third rail.

    smelly is the third rail, in case you hadn’t figured. I pretend to be his insulator.


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Feb 18, 2018 1:57 pm

    If we don’t clean this up, the gods will erupt out of us and run amok on Earth.

    So many have warned us.

    “God reveals to his servant in accordance with the readiness and capacity of his Heart, He takes on the form of his servant Heart, as water takes in the shape, and color of the glass containing it.”

    I know I don’t need to preach to the choir, but the way is clear for those who will receive their inheritance and fight for Life.

    Often people who take up green causes, realize later they are fighting for all life and the Creation comes to support them.

    If you don’t open and focus your heart, nothing will fill it.

    What can anyone really do Not connected to their heart?

    Seems so simple, but losing this connections is what lead us to demonize the real Daimonic inner part of us.

    It won’t be denied or ignored.

    The more you make yourself available, the more that will come to you.
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    Post by dan Sun Feb 18, 2018 2:05 pm

    Ok, smelly, and how should Donald explain this to the Deplorables.

    IOW, smelly, put this into a tweet from Donald.

    Failing that........ put it into a tweet from bill, assuming that bill doesn’t tweet.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Feb 18, 2018 2:17 pm

    Alright.

    Let me ask my Daimons for a tweet Wink

    They will answer. Promise. Big mouths.

    I’ll need to filter it. No would like it raw.

    They are pissed and not necessarily rational Wink
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Feb 18, 2018 2:33 pm

    So, my first attempt to translate this....

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    To this...

    Whatever said hopefully is abstracted from a tweet like this.

    “‪I know at times people are angry and scared of the World. I am too. Life has called us to love ourselves, others and the World as ourselves. Science hints that the world is not as concrete as it seems and deeply connected. So look around at your connections to Love & Listen.”
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    Post by dan Sun Feb 18, 2018 2:52 pm

    smelly/Sham,

    That is an excellent tweet.

    And, yet another correction........ it is Will.... not Bill.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Feb 18, 2018 2:59 pm

    Will Bill Phil Wink

    They gave me this for you Dan...

    “Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz made such an association in the introduction to his Codex Iuris Gentium. William Wollaston’s 1722 book The Religion of Nature Delineated.

    As we can see this aggregate of: “Indolence of body; and the possession of outward things” is bothersome because delineate a course of materialistic satisfaction, in order to be happy, when we know this not to be true since happiness it is an inner state of the Soul, that doesn’t require such aggregates!”

    The property aspect corrupted America.

    Trump is the fake false King of apparent Property!

    Can you see it?

    Property corrupted Mankind.

    Trump is the utter corruption of ego.

    His choices made him that.

    No one made that happen, they just pushed.

    He stands for everything Humanity doesn’t, property ownership.

    He is a great enemy of Life because he’s Human acting evil.

    It has ripples everywhere.



    Property ownership must end.

    That may give you a hint at how big of a change needed is.

    Two things accomplish this.

    The powerful lay down their arms. Or their arms and legs will be cut off.

    Know that it already happened.

    The universe already proved the foundation of our world built on evil will fall.

    Which is the Great Lesson of the Great Work.

    It might take all of us dying.

    I hope not.

    But we are fighting for a false life against Daimons who know we are full of shit, so I can’t help not being too against the vulgar being cleansed from the world if they will not let go.

    Let go of what you own.

    How could Trump swallow this bitter pill?

    A miracle.

    Each has to learn the lesson and redeem their own vision.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Feb 18, 2018 3:32 pm

    Boy, I got a lot of economy stuff Dan.

    Overwhelming amount on Capitalism.

    Deep well.

    Capitalism/Mammon is run amok. We must pull it back. It is not the hand of god to allow to go on forever.

    Slavoj Zizek,

    “We can see that for a long time we allowed our political engagement also to be outsourced,” he said. “We want it back. We are not communists. If communism means the system which collapsed in 1990, remember that today those communists are the most efficient ruthless capitalists. In China today we have capitalism which is even more dynamic than your American capitalism but doesn’t need democracy.”

    “Which means when you criticize capitalism, don’t allow yourselves to be blackmailed that you are against democracy. The marriage between democracy and capitalism is over.”

    America is the total Sham.

    So says the Smelly Goat, whoa to you America for turning away from Albion’s shore.

    Hah, they are using war and property to undermine us.

    We should speak to Mammon. It is the great opposing force in the world now. Here to perfect us.

    Nothing is really dire or wrong, just dramatic Wink

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    Post by dan Sun Feb 18, 2018 4:02 pm

    Very good, smelly,

    Capitalism had better be minding its ps and qs.

    In the meantime, all hands on deck......
    I recommended Jack, but Happer is also a great choice. He is a friend and ally of the Princess -- fully briefed on her background.

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