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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Wed Feb 14, 2018 7:51 am

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    99,

    I would give him a bit more credit than that.  

    In the Endtimes, the news will become the entertainment, and the entertainment will become the news.  

    God = +0.  We = God.  God = us....... in the End.

    And, please, 99, don’t tell me about the SoT.  [You are welcome to put your annotations in brackets.]




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    Post by dan Fri Mar 02, 2018 1:03 pm

    Thank you, everyone, for these updates.  

    Yes, it sounds like the Hive that is being described, with multiple portals.  

    Aug Tellez has the perspective of devices and transhumanism.  

    We’re seeing the complexification of a much simpler, Monadic reality.  

    Aug is seeing it all unfold as through a kaleidoscope.  He’s been down a few too many rabbit holes, but he indicates that it’s mainly by choice, perhaps retroactively.  

    There is a science fictiony overlay that is mostly gratuitous, in my estimation. We see the same kinds of overlay phenomen with UFOs.


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Mar 02, 2018 1:39 pm

    Interesting.

    Let me filter Aug.

    The Daimon stuff resonates.

    All thought from yaldabaoth, Demiturd, Satan? AI?

    I rejected duality.

    The time machine, buy it.

    So we are captured in a net.

    Free will can't be negated.

    A universal Daimonic power structure is described pushing the expansion of the Cosmos.

    There is a Gaia TV scifi vibe, but maybe that is a fade?

    Control over us is the illusion.

    http://www.thelemapedia.org/index.php/Gnosticism

    "The traditionalist René Guénon founded in 1909 the Gnostic review La Gnose. He believed in and throughout his works exposed the idea that modern thought, by its preference to the quantity more than to the quality, is the root of all evil aspects of modernity. The whole scientific enterprise would just be the beheaded relic of a lost Sacred Science. Modern technology and its realizations, worshipped by his contemporaries, would have been just a latter epiphany of the Kali Yuga (alias Dark Age), in a Cyclical Conception of Time."

    He says its about self control, true, how can I argue with him?

    This guy is reading some of his stuff to us. Not channeled.

    Aug is melting peoples brains.

    Time travelers talking to him?

    Space doesn't exist.

    Sun is a crystal matrix.

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    Time is moving reaaaalllllyyyyy sloooooowwwwww today.

    Weird.
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    Post by 99 Fri Mar 02, 2018 2:10 pm

    You're doing fine smelly. Don't be so hard on yourself. All information shared here by you and Dan is useful and important to us.... your audience. I just want to thank you both for being here.
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    Post by dan Fri Mar 02, 2018 2:13 pm

    The only thing I take exception to, with what you posted, is the notion of an expanding cosmos.  It is something that just comes reflexively, with the modern mind.  It’s a hard habit to break, but it is a crucial point of the entire metaphysic.  

    Tellez does seem to enjoy melting minds.  I guess that’s ok, if you enjoy having your mind melted.  But I doubt that it’s necessary.  He may have taken a few of those detours, himself, that he keeps warning us against.  

    He is dilly dallying on his way back to the Source.  

    What he doesn’t quite realize is that we have already taken every possible detour, over the 10^10 lives that we all share.  

    The basic confusion, with Tellez, is that time is an illusion..... a time machine would be an illusion within an illusion.  

    But, yes, the Princess reports that, when she goes through a portal, it is often into multiple times.  The events, themselves, are somehow overlaid.  And I would doubt that these events are just randomly juxtaposed.  Rather, I suppose that they entail a commonality in some other dimension of meaning.  

    I am a firm believer in the ultimate simplicity of existence.  It is we, creatures who love to complexify the world.  There is nothing wrong with wanting to take things apart.  It is entertaining.  But the parts do not speak to the simplicity of the whole.  The mystics speak to the simplicity.  

    Tellez is no mystic.  He is the kid with the new telescope...... looking through the ‘wrong’ end...... the kaleidoscopic end.  It’s can be mesmerizing, but it does not speak to the Truth.  


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Mar 02, 2018 2:43 pm

    yes yes, old habits die hard, but when they die, you get a spiritual gift back.

    buried deeper in his site, he says human emotions are being used to separate advanced machine intelligences and AIs.

    Avoid the white light deception by going to the void. Tru dat. You go to the light, and that's birth again.

    I don't know if I buy this Gnostic stuff.

    I'm just not paranoid.

    Oh boy, interesting video.



    Prepare them to be overloaded...haha.

    People will be left behind sacks of whimpering meat.

    Crazy synchronicities with this video.

    I remembered this stuff.

    Does that mean it was my memory, the daimon, or beamed from the demiturd?

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    Post by 99 Fri Mar 02, 2018 3:22 pm

    I'm reading 'Aug's' online book now. Have gotten to the section where he's talking about 'The Mind Virus' and the way he's describing it, it sounds very similar, in some important ways, to the Thetans in Scientology.

    So far, nothing new here. Just a rewrite of the same old information floating out there with a different twist and slant on it including new terms for old ones to make it sound fresh and new.

    I think 'Aug' is just the frontman for a whole crew of people who are working behind the scene. They are the ones who are conceptualizing and writing all of the information he passes onto the public. He's just the 'public face'  of who and what is 'Aug Tellez' (He's the brand they are selling to the public.)

    I believe Corey Goode is the same deal and there others out there too.

    As for the purpose behind such endeavors, there's a whole list of them and they probably are all true in one way or another.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Mar 02, 2018 3:42 pm

    I don't know Dan, I ignore the tech talk, I think he gets IT.

    Insanity is the ascent.

    I'd agree we are insane now, for the best I'm sure.

    He is describing my experience a lot here.



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    Post by dan Fri Mar 02, 2018 3:43 pm

    I agree with you, 99.  

    Now that the truth is finally coming out, there will be a cottage industry of folks who will find advantage to its complexification.  

    They love nothing better than to bewilder the rest of us, thinking they might thereby hold us in their thrall.

    It’s as if we hadn’t already been overburdened by experts and professionals of every description.  This was once described as being priest-ridden.  


    smelly,

    I disagree. I don’t think that Tellez gets IT.

    He is not even woke. He is woke^0.5. He is just bedazzled, imho.

    He desperately wishes to bedazzle/befuddle us.

    He wants company in his befuddlement.



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Mar 02, 2018 3:47 pm

    Check the last video, just saying.

    This guy is dripping with Kairos energy.
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    Post by dan Fri Mar 02, 2018 3:52 pm

    Ok, I’ll check it out........

    I’m sorry, smelly, I’m at six minutes, and I’m losing patience.  Already he is hung up on the organic/inorganic distinction.  

    Please, give us just a couple of examples of what you consider to be new and useful information.  



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Mar 02, 2018 4:12 pm

    I guess it's for me.

    Just so many synchronicities.

    I'll be quiet now about him.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Mar 02, 2018 4:26 pm

    I can't be befuddled Wink
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    Post by dan Fri Mar 02, 2018 4:31 pm

    Yes, smelly, I got more out of the first video.

    In the video above, I’m seeing almost no overlap with the BPWH. He struggles to provide an overview, but it’s all about worlds within worlds....... an infinite hierarchy that eventually recycles...... very Hinduistic. Almost all of us, besides Tellez, are lost souls. But his soul seems more lost than anyone’s I know...... and that includes you, smelly.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Mar 02, 2018 4:38 pm

    I hear a lot of what you say in what he is saying.

    He talks like a Kaballah master at some points.

    He seems to be reading sometimes.

    But I get a vibe from him.

    Shrug.

    Anyway, I don't need to make any arguments for anything.

    I have no position.

    He sounds like my brother.

    He knows to face the dark.

    He knows he's enough.

    I don't understand how you can be so dismissive.

    He knows God is beyond material.  

    He knows the trap and way out.

    He knows the heart is the key.

    He knows we are here to choose.

    He knows about the mind parasites.

    Shrug.

    Black Brotherhood?

    This guy knows stuff.

    And he's not aggrandizing.

    He is nihalting.

    Anyway, strange connections, I acceot all communication Dan, no matter the fool, including you of course.

    You are my Fool remember.

    They can't have you.
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    Post by dan Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:42 pm

    I listened to most of the rest of Tellez...... the last one above.

    Use your own discernment. It’s very gnostic. Everything is inverted, but things work out in the end, maybe.

    The simplicity and coherence tend to get lost in the shuffle. It does sound a lot like smelly and Crowley.

    Tellez seems infatuated with his own convolutions. There seem to be endless cycles, but there is also an Alpha and Omega. There is no focus. He is quite sure that most of us will get recycled in the experiment.

    In some ways, smelly is right, Tellez is so near, but, in other ways, he’s so far.

    Take a look. You’ll see.

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    Post by dan Sat Mar 03, 2018 4:24 am

    Yes, Aug Tellez is an important player, out of nowhere.  

    He is a Person of Interest.  

    He’s not quite in the Chicken Little ballpark.  

    He sees the Apocalypse.  He doesn’t see the Eschaton, even though he gives lip service to the Omega.  

    He has no clue about the BPW/SW/CTC.  

    He is certainly not a Jesus freak.  

    Like smelly and Crowley, he’s been down a couple too many rabbit holes.  He’s lost focus on the centrality of the Earth.  He has almost no clue about our Prophetic history.  

    He’s much too close to being a Transhumanist.  

    He is pretty much of a dualist, in all senses of that word, as goes with his Gnosticism.  

    Being down too many rabbit holes, might also be an issue with Footmann and Princess.  The prophetic edge becomes blurred.  One loses track of time.  It’s harder to take time seriously, anymore.  This observation might apply more to the Princess.  

    I still take time seriously, in case you hadn’t noticed.  

    And we sure can’t accuse the Footmann of lacking operational/temporal focus.  Praise the Lord for that.

    Is Tellez breathing down my neck?  Not quite, but I can feel the wind in my sails.  

    Tellez admonishes us to be here, now.  He’s not quite.

    Aug provides me with a much better handle on smelly/sham/Eric.  Once again, praise the Lord.  

    How, in the Age of the Bomb and the Internet, is it possible to lose focus on the Prophetic Edge?  You’d have to work at it, and a lot of folks are....... working at it. They’re getting just a bit ahead of the Cosmic Trigger..... bless their cheating hearts!

    We’re very lucky to have smelly.  

    He’s our resident expert on jumping the gun.  

    Looking at our present situation, historically, the entire New Age movement was about jumping the gun, bless their flowery little hearts.  

    But now, with Vegas in the bag, I don’t think anyone can accuse us of jumping the gun. Can they, Princess?

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    Post by 99 Sat Mar 03, 2018 7:21 am

    l saw one of 'them' (guru factory conceptualizers/writers) in a You Tube group conference of one of your G. Cameron interviews. Not surprising at all that a lot of Aug's material seems to have been influenced by Smelly's posts here. Of course I'm only speculating that there may be a connection here but that person was, after all, in that online conference so I can't rule it out.

    Ha! This is probably why Smelly resonates so much with Aug's
    material!

    Aug Tellez and co. wants to compete with Corey Goode and co. This seems very apparent to me.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Mar 03, 2018 8:31 am

    I’m a calmed down version of Aug.

    Never occurred to me 99 anyone would be affected by or copy my spontaneous Spirit writing Wink

    He can’t leep it straight, it is very simple.

    I don't like all the gnostic tech stuff, but the kid knows master level things.

    Too many synchronicities.

    I’m not jumping any gun, my gun is dismantled and sitting on the table.
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    Post by 99 Sat Mar 03, 2018 8:40 am

    A defector from one mythmaker writer group who has given me a lot of information, told me to buy a gun (and take a class on how to operate it) because he says that they're (that group) dangerous. He was saying that I might need a gun to protect myself from them.

    He's had some run-in's with them.

    I'm anti-gun though. Would never buy one of those things.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Mar 03, 2018 8:46 am

    I do always have my 45 and 12 guage nearby.

    Just in case words are not required Wink

    The world is not quite in a trustworthy state as of yet.

    I’m confident we will get there.

    I often have thought to get rid of them.

    Also, comparing myself to Aug.

    I make art, I don’t push a myth on the Internet.

    Also, I have nothing to say anymore.

    I came to OMF and have an Internet presence, as my public aspect of my experience.

    I represent no groups.

    All my knowledge was given to me, little that there is.

    I will never argue one aspect of what I’ve communicated ever.

    I need nor want anything from anyone.

    Did I mention, I have nothing to say Wink

    I don’t help or teach anyone anything, nor do I need to, nor can I, nor willI I ever intentionally.

    I’m going with the flow picking fruit from the air wholly my Self reflecting.

    It’s Nirvana here now.

    That there is an overlay between Nirvana and this world of confusion is very interesting to me, but not anything to really get that excited about, because Nirvana is cool, this place is dangerous, but only to meat sacs.

    I’ve been working on my guru detachment, Aug hasn’t gotten there yet.

    I promise Aug will start a mystery school if not already for bros who be woke Wink

    A lot of bros in the ghetto are waking up as masters of rhyme.


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    Post by dan Sat Mar 03, 2018 9:07 am

    With an Eschaton looming, a lot of crazy stuff begins to make sense.  

    So, 99, are you saying that Aug comes equipped with his own army?

    And he sounds so innocent.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Mar 03, 2018 9:12 am

    Trump and Kushner are Daimon or clones.

    I could start a bee rehab.

    See, I could do what Aug does Wink
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Mar 03, 2018 10:50 am

    To get back to more familiar climbs, Jung said that if a Daimon is not consciously acknowledged, then it appears from behind in its wrathful form as the dark son of chaos. So Crowley became the devil to overcome in the minds of the sleeping. Crowley went back to Canaanite mythology.

    The Enemy King. Te threat to order. The bringer of cHaOs. He became Antichrist.

    Crowley became Lokian, the finisher. We needed rebellion. He offered individual empowerment out of love and confusion. We can do better.

    Jung Campbell Beatles Crowley overthrew mans gods.

    History can be seen as a nightmare.

    There is doubt in the appearances, where there was faith.

    Words create our own keys.

    I have not sought to showcase my initiatory gnosis as I am so often accused, but to make intelligible the experience from a Metaphysical and Philosophical perspective, where it aligns with Dan, is accidental and synchronistic.

    All seekers of Self, truth and wisdom are on a journey together. Some join, some make themselves powerful, I can’t say either way is better or worse. I think the truth is a little bit of both. Nothing is just this or that, it’s this and that always.

    We can understand what that means consciously, which seems counter to reason sometimes.

    We are each here, ‘to cut our own way through the jungle.’

    From The Gnostic Magic of Egypt, Egyptian magic, Gnostic path:

    1) denied dogmas of a personal supreme god.
    2) it asserted a Sepreme essence a perfect light filling the Pleroma.
    3) A father and mother spirt birth god spirits
    0 became 1 became 2 became 3 and so on.
    4) we are at the dim boundary, the imperfect created universe.
    5) the creators to the Gnostics were good and evil Demiurgos, a power of Sophia.
    6) the desire of souls for progression, caused the Creation to allow them to rise to the divine.
    7) they believed in evolutionary progress of worlds and ascent and descent of soul.
    Cool any who would go higher must go lower first, makes sense.
    9) they were the philosophical Christians.
    10) the emotional leaders took control of the church.
    They followed an exalted sufferer and preacher than than intellectual higher heart based truth. The Gnostics were based on Plato and Socrates where the Christians lost philosophy.

    The Gnostics turned from the creed then being taught, rejecting hero worship. They believed Christ taught though knowledge of the Supernal mind.

    This is where I can relate to Gnostics, there are many golden paths to knowledge of the Supernal Mind, Friends of the Golden Soul. I saw the teaching in Jesus’ teaching. A religion of emotion and blind faith would never suit the thoughtful.

    I don’t say I believe any of this. Interesting none the less.

    Will do hobbit.


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    Smelly,

    I would recommend You keep a close watch on the moon.





    https://www.timeanddate.com/moon/phases/

    It's the big spoon stirring the consciousness flows.

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    Do You know?
    They are sticking mobile phone towers in church steeples.


    https://www.jscimedcentral.com/Behavior/behavior-2-1010.php

    I am buzzing with rage.

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