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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Wed Feb 14, 2018 7:51 am

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    99,

    I would give him a bit more credit than that.  

    In the Endtimes, the news will become the entertainment, and the entertainment will become the news.  

    God = +0.  We = God.  God = us....... in the End.

    And, please, 99, don’t tell me about the SoT.  [You are welcome to put your annotations in brackets.]




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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:38 am

    I see Dan has his hands full here Wink

    We should be careful with quick conclusions. From the ground I’m standing on, I feel all of it moving, turning.

    Powers moving in me I was never aware of. Like snakes slithering over each other in a mass. Never sure which snake head may speak.

    I remember things I couldn’t know. That might unsettle someone, and maybe think they were Jesus or something. A person like that could be considered a threat to the political order. Because I and others like me are surely here to tear it down. But that is a conclusion, so I’m sure of nothing.

    A common mythomaniacal reaction to spontaneous gnosis is delusion. I was delusional on some levels seeing mirages, but it was a form of teaching I feel now. Or I just went a little crazy to come together.

    At any rate, I am myself. Could have powers, could be a smart kid, could be immature, very gifted and humble Wink Could be a being close to the eternal flame you need to help.

    Maybe I need a lot of help Dan.

    Maybe we all do.
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    Post by dan Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:55 am

    That is a fair statement, smelly.

    You may well have an inside track on the unfolding events. And if you do you won’t be the only one. It does give ‘insider’ a new connotation.



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:59 am

    Maybe be patient with 99, I can tell she is going through some stuff with all this, like all of us.

    Since you brought it up Dan. Nephalim huh.

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    To say I may have channeled their rage might be closer to the Truth.

    I recently spent some times with some Rabbis who helped me calm down a lot.

    Also an OTO member has taken me under his wing.

    He also told me to chill out.

    I got the message.
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    Post by dan Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:08 am

    The Nephilim are coming back, and they’re p*ssed.

    They have some right to be...... they got a bad rap.

    But there are two sides to every story.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:16 am

    Sorry to interrupt your flow Dan.

    Last thoughts....

    I did open myself up to Daimonic possession through my portal work. They came like moths to the flame. They used Kairos to trick and play with me.

    The dragons will teach any who can come to them, they are very hard teachers.

    My Mom was right, bless her little apocalyptic heart. She would be terrified to meet the darkness I have, and let it come inside. They said to me, you see these horrible thoughts and you don’t give yourself to them, why? I said, those things do not reflect my vibration or heart. And their thoughts were tempered by this.

    The darkness Must exist as a term of creation. I made friends with Devils and they loved it. I felt their joy in educating me and their warnings and stern lessons.

    But I never had better friends and teachers. We met as curious about each other as anything. They scared me and sometimes their power is frightening. But they were showing me my own power, our powers. But somehow I am sympathetic to them.

    I suppose any true believer will now say I am a Devil. They are proud to hold the light for the human race until we can hold the fire within ourselves consciously and learn how to use the cooling water to temper the flames.

    Just my romantic view and experience of these forces. Delusions I’m sure, every one Wink
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    Post by dan Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:22 am

    Hello darkness, my old friend
    I've come to talk with you again
    Because a vision softly creeping
    Left its seeds while I was sleeping
    And the vision that was planted in my brain
    Still remains
    Within the sound of silence
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:26 am

    This is an example of them singing to us. I find their marks everywhere I look behind things.

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    Post by 99 Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:32 am

    I'm convinced that unholy portals are wide open now but this is based on what I've been going through for the past few years. I have to keep incense burning at night to keep them away but that doesn't always help. They give off an extremely annoying 'bad meat' odor where even if open the windows to clear the air in the room, it still lingers on. The incense helps though. I say the rosary a lot too.

    They do other things too, like leaning up on my back in bed, for example... and the list goes on. But always, there's a lot of atmospheric noise and shadow movements. I'm used to it.

    And yes, without sounding dramatic, sometimes they show themselves to me in a quick flash. You don't want me to describe what they look like.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:42 am

    Not to get off track 99, but my view, and theirs, nothing could ever be unholy or holy.

    Things are as they are.

    I am as I am programmed to be.

    We are adaptive AIs though.

    I feel them and they are lifted by us, but can drag us down into self destruction. And we are pulled down by them to see something in ourselves right before slitting our throats, they say stop.

    This is how they can make us feel. We can respond with love and acceptance. Or burn down the world to make it feel like we feel trapped in ourselves or raise it up to match the heaven some feel themselves in.

    Like that boy who killed his schoolmates recently. I feel his rage, his brokenness, his confusion. I feel the pain of those he touched with his. That can be understood beyond revenge and judgement with compassion.
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    Post by 99 Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:44 am

    I'm fine. I'm used to it and I'm no longer afraid like I was when it first started up. In fact, I record them! lol When I'm in the mood to do so.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:44 am

    Remember the Princess walking in this infernal land carrying a pale of water to douse the flames of hell and flame to burn down heaven.

    This is there central message to us I feel.
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    Post by dan Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:45 am

    If they can’t get to me, they’ll sure be coming to anyone around me.  

    If incense doesn’t work, you might try an alignment....... of your thoughts....... an alignment to the light.  Go toward the light, 99.  

    Don’t be so easily distracted.

    You can’t stay put, once the phenomena start. You have to keep ahead of the phenomenon. And this doesn’t mean that you should try to run away from it, either.


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    Post by 99 Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:50 am

    Easier than said Dan. But I understand what you're saying. Nevertheless, when they show up, the incense is the trick. But sometimes at night, after the incense burns out, they show up and there's that horrible odor again. So light up another incense stick, go to the kitchen, have a cup of tea and things are ok again when I climb back into bed. Their odor wakes me up at night... it's that strong.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:52 am

    To Dan’s point, we are to react by using the opposite force to deal with them. This is where systems like Zen are invaluable.

    They reflect and amplify our emotions and thoughts and us them.

    The truth, this world ain’t their fault, it’s ours and they take great joy in rubbing our faces in our own mess and saying look and learn.

    They are not sentimental in their orientation. They are looking to destroy and devour the weak.

    They respect the strong and help those who make them an ally realize their true will and nature.

    99, invite them to tea, talk to them.

    We got j to this mess by banishing the Daimon.

    That was our great crime and mistake.


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    Post by dan Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:54 am

    Your problem, 99, is that you don’t know where the light is.  

    The demons know that you have access to the light, so they stalk you.  

    That just want the some of the light that you have access to.
    ..........

    Yes, 99, invite them to talk to you.......


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:57 am

    Yes Dan, they want some of it.

    They want to be like us and can’t be.

    I say love them with compassion, but not for power.

    If any comes to them for gain or advantage, ignoring their own Light, they are already destroyed.

    Fear attracts the nasty ones.

    But strength gets you access to Dragons.

    You want to know the Dragons.

    The serpents protect the gates and the egg.

    The vulgar will not be allowed access to the keys or to Eden.


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    Post by 99 Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:58 am

    Why do you think I'm here dan? Being here and listening to your world view and what Smelly has to say about this and that is part of my process to work through all of this. I'm seeking solutions as, quite frankly, I've tried everything....
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:02 am

    99, they are faith eaters. They are drawn to the light hiding in us.

    They eat the black stuff keeping that light inside you.

    I am going to just say it.

    They are challenging you to go beyond your old faith.

    Whatever you are clinging to, they always bring only One message.

    And this is the message to all on Earth.

    Let go.

    They can become the nightmares of the ancients if we fight them.
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    Post by dan Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:04 am

    Well, smelly, there are many different ways to let go......

    It helps if you are wearing a parachute, when you let go.

    All I’m trying to say is that there is a golden Parachute......


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    Post by 99 Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:05 am

    My thoughts on this is that they are intelligences that co-exist with humanity. That's my view. I can't say with any certainty who or what they are.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:05 am

    True Dan.

    And no 99, tou wint ever get the full readout.

    But they are not your enemy truly.

    All I seem to be receiving is that things are going to change suddenly and then it’s on.


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    Post by 99 Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:07 am

    I definitely sense that too. In fact, that's one way they communicate to me... that 'sensing' thing.

    Thoughts that come into my mind too when they are around... not really separate from my own... yet, at the same time separate. If that makes sense.

    High pitch sounds, electrical crackles... in my head. That's what they do to me when they're there.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:11 am

    It’s all the Labrinth.

    We are still the half god half animal in the maze.

    We are u lnlike all other things like this.

    We have the the chance at the knowledge of good and evil.

    When we take it into us, surely we will die.

    But we have to bit the apple.

    It’s bitter, like wormwood and impossibly sweet.

    They can’t force feed us.

    But don’t think for a second they wouldn’t enslave all of us in chains if it was decided it would lead to letting go.

    They want the light part of us and we want that animal part.

    We can trade Wink

    There can be a peace. Once there is, mankind will sit at their feet and learn who we are together.

    And you will be radiant on Earth.

    And they will have fulfilled their commitment to us.

    Thank god the devout angels were checked.

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    Post by 99 Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:13 am

    Yes, on rare occasions, they try to enter me if I'm in an altered state of consciousness in that between waking state. I have a daimon. She says my name to wake up when they try to do that. She will keep saying my name to wake me up and sometimes she will tell me to LEAVE THE ROOM.

    This is my life and like I said before, I wouldn't wish it on anyone.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:18 am

    It’s not a curse 99, it’s a dark gift you can embrace and integrate.

    I guess you can extrapolate this onto the UFO phenomena.

    They are not literal, so they will seem impossible.

    Just like you are destroyed seeking out of greed and fear from the Devil, I have to accept the same about them.

    Intention will dictate results.

    As of now, most of mankind is woefully underprepared to face them.

    Behind this material veil, we are at our weakest.

    Like children pulling the cover over their head begging God to make the monster go away.

    No, IT won’t, we are stuck.

    Now what are you going to do?

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