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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Wed Feb 14, 2018 7:51 am

    First topic message reminder :

    99,

    I would give him a bit more credit than that.  

    In the Endtimes, the news will become the entertainment, and the entertainment will become the news.  

    God = +0.  We = God.  God = us....... in the End.

    And, please, 99, don’t tell me about the SoT.  [You are welcome to put your annotations in brackets.]




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    Post by 99 Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:27 am

    Ok... to go a little deeper on this topic, my view is that because we're created in the image of God, who is perfect, that makes us perfect too.

    Thanks all for this conversation... never put much thought into this topic but now, come to think of it, I guess that means that we were born perfect; but that doesn't mean that we stay that way.
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    Post by dan Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:29 am

    Another way to look at Creation might be to say that there are no sour notes in Creation.  Yes, there is creative dissonance, and plenty of it, for us to have to stretch our minds and hearts to have it all come back to its eternal perfection.  

    Creation has plenty of stretch marks.  Look at the magnitude of what it gave birth to.  Perfection is not in the magnitude, however, it is in every microcosm that comprises that magnitude.
    .........


    God had a cheat sheet, when she set about Creation. She knew how the story ended.

    Are there no ‘blemishes’ in such a scheme. Of course, there are. They just provoke us to the higher heights. The process counts more than the product, don’t we know....... it’s how we played the game. That’s all there is, in the End.



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    Post by 99 Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:31 am

    Wow! Very well put Dan! Thanks!
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    Second part of your post... that makes sense to me too.


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:31 am

    Who needs a Hero?

    Well, that’s us.

    Clarity is our sword to cut away untruth.

    You are the Hero here on Earth.

    Be the god damned Heros and Heroines then.

    Grab your swords, forge them inside.

    Because we are separate here on Earth.

    But Heaven comes with a celestial wherever they go and what was once separate is no longer.

    Why do you not all celebrate your true birthright?

    To be a Son and Daughter of the Sky?!

    We are Stars rolling around in mud.

    It’s why you were litteraly born.

    To shine the Light of Creation!

    So stop talking about it and DO IT!



    A message from Jesus from MEz to Youz.

    My heart is swelling with Light and Love.

    Can you see how beautiful what is happening is?!

    It is surely Divine!

    I can’t contain it.

    Jesus asked me to push the cracking wall back with him.

    Do not look through the eyes of doubt and paranoia and ego.

    Look at Creation through your True Eternal Eyez.

    It is glorious at ground zero!!!

    I see rainbows everywhere around me.

    Don’t look away.


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    Post by 99 Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:45 am

    Thanks smelly. Seems like we're on the same page on that one. Will keep your dad in my prayers.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:50 am

    Right on 99.

    We are in sync here and everywhere.

    Love without endz.

    I can’t feel my face when I’m here with you.

    But I love it...

    I can see the radiant face of the Eternal One.

    And I LOVE IT!!!


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    Post by hobbit Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:52 am

    99 wrote:Ok... to go a little deeper on this topic, my view is that because we're created in the image of God, who is perfect, that makes us perfect too.

    Thanks all for this conversation... never put much thought into this topic but now, come to think of it, I guess that means that we were born perfect; but that doesn't mean that we stay that way.

    Who TOLD You that We are created in the image of God?
    Who TOLD You there is a God?


    To repeat what You are TOLD is akin to been a parrot.

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    Post by painterdoug Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:53 am

    DAN EXCELLENT you rang the bell !

    99/ Yes true / the sponge can be squeezed out and start a new .

    smelly/ blessings for your dad
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:57 am

    The old man is fine.

    Save your prayers.

    Just know there is no Death for us.

    You are free from that lie of separation now.

    If the old man chooses not to walk on Earth as a Sun, he will when he’s gone.

    As all of us here.

    Live Heaven here or not, shrug.

    But know Life loves us here shining rainbows.

    I feel it’s heart shining here.

    You don’t need Jesus or the Devil to save you.

    What could need saving Wink

    There is no separation here.

    I seem to remember a few sermons about such.

    When you speak with the voice of the Prophet, there are no fears or doubts, there is what IS. You expect rejection and misunderstanding.

    But something in you says, push, persist.

    I don’t claim such, I claim Everything as my inheritance.

    We have suffered here truly Sons and Daughters of the Earth and Sun and Moon.

    I think prophets are just Suns with no mud on them shining the Light of Truth.

    You can’t accept it in your mind. The conflict is tremendous to the point of combustion.

    And then in your ashes, your soul shines for you to see first and it is blinding.

    So I only have my lamp here and a few dim footprints in the sand to follow, but I will follow them.

    Somehow it’s All real and All True and All a Lie at the same time.

    In Earth time, serpents don’t walk and talk, but once we had a very important conversation outside of time I begin to remember.
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    Post by 99 Sat Feb 17, 2018 12:26 pm


    [Who TOLD You that We are created in the image of God?
    Who TOLD You there is a God?]

    Who TOLD you that we all have an inherent divine nature? Your answer to that answers your questions too.
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    Post by hobbit Sat Feb 17, 2018 12:29 pm

    99 wrote:
    [Who TOLD You that We are created in the image of God?
    Who TOLD You there is a God?]

    Who TOLD you that we all have an inherent divine nature? Your answer to that answers your questions too.


    Nobody has told Me any such thing.
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    Post by 99 Sat Feb 17, 2018 12:35 pm

    Nobody told me that God exists. I found out through my own personal revelations when I was a very young child that God exists.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Feb 17, 2018 12:38 pm

    hobbit

    I went to look for God.

    I AM all that was left in the ashes....
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    Post by hobbit Sat Feb 17, 2018 12:41 pm

    smelly wrote:hobbit

    I went to look for God.

    I AM all that was left in the ashes....
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZ5PQppudHc
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Feb 17, 2018 12:43 pm

    All just silly words in the rain of pain.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:45 pm

    Let me tell you about the Goddess...She’s crazy...more than I can handle. She fills your head with pretty impossible things.



    Take nothing literally, especially me.

    Stay skeptical.

    One man’s visions are another’s nightmares.

    It’s all meta-4 I speak.

    My toolbox uses these images and words to express the now, 3 Langs in 1 slang.

    These are myths and models, approximations of the now, until you see that flash and it burns a hole.
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    Post by 99 Sat Feb 17, 2018 4:37 pm

    I'm looking at the Thelemapedia page on curses.

    http://www.thelemapedia.org/index.php/Curses

    It completely escapes me why someone would want to curse someone because not only is it EVIL but it can boomerang back to you. Invocating demons is playing with fire. One may think they can control them but anyone who believes that is wrong, wrong, wrong.

    [Crowley & curses
    Aleister Crowley used the term in regards to constraining or coercing demons, as in the practice of Goetia. In Magick, Book 4 (Ch.16) he writes:

    "some demons are of a nature such that they only understand curses, are not amenable to courteous command."
    From "Liber B vel Magi", Crowley speaks of the "Curse of the Grade" of Magus in the A.'.A.'.:

    14. "For the curse of His grade is that he must speak Truth, that the Falsehood thereof may enslave the souls of men"
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    20. "And woe also be unto Him that refuseth the curse of the grade of a Magus, and the burden of the Attainment thereof."]
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Feb 17, 2018 4:54 pm

    No one can truly be cursed. They are taking on thought forms of others and they curse themselves.

    You must look beyond the prophets and powers.

    When you accept the words of prophets they have you.

    You accept their morals as the new norm.

    This can never stand, this is not for the Human Race.

    We must deny all prophets is my view.

    Anyone who would claim the mantle to speak for God is a fool and lost in the biggest Ego game of all, being God of the Cosmos.

    So many pretenders to the throne.

    IT is before all of these words in my experience.

    But I’m just a false goat prophet.

    But I dare to challenge you to rise to your own occasion and life.

    Your are worthy to live life forever.

    Buy no one else’s stories and claims on anything my heart roars.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Feb 17, 2018 5:01 pm

    I believe in you 99 Wink
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Feb 17, 2018 5:15 pm

    Well, such things happen. FeAr is the mind killer. Many people play with their own fire and get scared. Dangerous truth to the ego.

    If I were to use the old stories, the serpent protects the egg. It won’t let the vulgar bear it. Our egoic structure fears the Truth, but illuminated in its own inner light, it changes.

    If we keep all things local, water cools fire. There is some stuff about Solomon’s key, but that’s ego stuff.

    Nothing stands between me and life.

    But it seems everything wants us to think there is an insurmountable Wall.

    There is a Way around the wall.

    Love
    Peace
    Humility
    Simplicity
    Compassion
    And Fire

    Actually that was Crowley’s message.

    Most simply get lost in their own reflections.

    Pick your meta-4.

    He taught how to master the 10 positive and 10 negative forces of the tree of life. And he did some stupid stuff.

    Also he was a self confessed liar, lout, cheat, pervert, con man, artist and false prophet.

    Also a prince of the eternal flame.

    What do you expect of the Beast?

    He was also a radiant person by all accountz and possibly a master spy.


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    Post by 99 Sat Feb 17, 2018 5:25 pm

    Ignite my fire Smelly. It's your show now. Please proceed.

    But no way am I willing to engage the Beast. That's completely out of the question.

    The Christ Consciousness is infinitely more powerful.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Feb 17, 2018 5:51 pm

    Haha.

    Never say never.

    Don’t tell the Devil your coming.

    Just make the move.

    Only you can light it.

    Listen to what IT said in one myth.

    You decide if it’s true.

    The day you eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, surely you will die.

    IT couldn’t make us die.

    We didn’t have to be here in time. Perhaps we chose to fall so we could choose our Death. How can you save a mortal world?

    You can’t, not our problem really, but there is value in fire.

    We have to choose how and when we meet Death, egoic.

    That’s respect and a little free will maybe.

    I can’t say a soul is real and Nous is real.

    But I experience an inner light that I did not always possess.

    It is not for you or anyone else.

    It only gives enough light for me.

    Such is the way these things work I gather.
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    Post by 99 Sat Feb 17, 2018 6:13 pm

    Huh?
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    Ok, so your incorporation of the Beast into your rituals has only brought light to you.

    Hmmmm...

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