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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Wed Feb 14, 2018 7:51 am

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    99,

    I would give him a bit more credit than that.  

    In the Endtimes, the news will become the entertainment, and the entertainment will become the news.  

    God = +0.  We = God.  God = us....... in the End.

    And, please, 99, don’t tell me about the SoT.  [You are welcome to put your annotations in brackets.]




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    Post by Cheguevoblin Wed Feb 14, 2018 3:42 pm

    I have to give a sermon in Church on Sunday to a large congregation. Gonna have to figure out a good way to speak with the mouth of Osiris while at the same time forge a new path ahead with the eye of Horus. Line upon line, precept upon precept.

    By the way, this is a pretty interesting interpretation on the story of Osiris, Horus, Seth and Isis. Smelly shared it with me a few days ago.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7gCa5UYDA0&feature=youtu.be


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Feb 14, 2018 3:44 pm

    Just be natural and go with the flow.
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    Post by dan Wed Feb 14, 2018 3:48 pm

    Good luck, Ackbar, or Godspeed.  

    You guys have some advantages.  Enoch is certainly one of them.  Take care when you play the Enoch card.
    ...........


    Back to the SEP.......
    ......from the exaltation of the individualist ego, the step was never far to its extinction in a larger impersonal whole of any of the many available varieties. Modern individualism represented no real challenge to the intellectual environment in which man tended to be seen as a mere phenomenal being, easily assimilated into nature, the impersonal principle of idealism, the unconscious, the cosmic will, or the collectivities of the family, the state, the nation, the social class. Man was a product of external forces, an insignificant piece in a cosmic puzzle, without dignity, freedom, responsibility, or fundamental existential significance.


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Feb 14, 2018 3:54 pm

    The Minoans and Egyptians were ripped off.

    Go to the sources of your metaphors and myths and they lead back inside where Disclosure will lead.

    But there is no authority now, do what thou wilt, love under will in the Aeon of Horus.

    Time to grow up, no more messiahs.

    Christianity isn’t original, not one bit.

    But Jesus did pull the veil back as Kairos.

    That’s why Dan has yet to met his Messiah within.

    I’m out in the deep water waiting for Dan.

    He ain’t seen nothin yet.

    Heard a sweet melody from Sophia, bahahaha.

    Oh and I heard that Chris Bledsoe guy video, forgot to say.

    He obviously saw a passion play and the bull and bee are connected.
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    Post by Cheguevoblin Wed Feb 14, 2018 5:38 pm

    Not sure exactly what Dan was referring to when he mentioned playing the Enoch card. I reread some of the Book of Moses today though and noticed several interesting things.

    1. The city of Zion being taken into the bosom of the Lord for their righteousness.
    2. Enoch talks about a city that rose up out of the water that had Giants.
    3. Enoch refers to the Earth as an female Anima or Gaia

    Found this article that reminded me of the Princess and the Kashmir World Foundation.

    https://www.dialoguejournal.com/wp-content/uploads/sbi/articles/Dialogue_V44N02_346.pdf

    Here is a quote from that article:

    “Unless we see the Earth as a planet that behaves as if it were alive, at least to the extent of regulating its climate and chemistry, we will lack the will to change our way of life and to understand that we have made it our greatest enemy. As we commit environmental offenses that alter the delicate harmony and balance that sustain life, Gaia will look after herself. And the best way for her to do that might well be to get rid of us. The Earth has the ability to purge itself of disruptive elements just as a simpler organism remove[s] potentially poisonous liquid and solid wastes and trie[s] to destroy cancers and infections."

    Mom's gonna fix it all soon. Mom's coming 'round to put it back the way it ought to be. -Aenima

    I'm definitely rethinking my own environmental impact on mother earth after reading that article. I tried going vegetarian recently but it didn't last long. Need to commit better.
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    Post by Apophis Pletho Wed Feb 14, 2018 7:54 pm

    Dan, your messiah is the only one who reached the 50th gate. Moses only reached the 49th.

    You want me to prove the world was created by numbers and sounds? Easy, coherency is a function of time and what is more ordered than math at the begininning of time?

    Religion isn't the the answer. Your emotional control is the secret. Getting angry is like idol worship. Faith is about controlling your mind to unlock a great primordial mystery.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:21 pm

    Apophis, don’t waste your breath.

    Dan is of course having us on.

    Dan, a message just now for you from the Master Therion.

    You’re popular, as the most ignorant muppet on Earth, bahahaha.

    Bird chatter....

    They attempt to abort the birth of the Child.

    Don’t forget, Evolution is in the hands of the freaks. Free radicals baby. Prophets by blood.

    The “abnormal” man who forsees the trend of the times and adapts circumstance intelligently, is laughed at, persecuted, often destroyed by the herd: but he and his heirs, when the crisis comes, are the survivors.  

    You see Green friends, we have exposed the man’s heart, he hates us.

    Sad

    Now you can begin to heal Dan.

    I wish you rapid recovery.

    Everyone makes mistakes. Life is mistakes. What do we learn without humility and lots of failures? I fail perfectly everyday and laugh now, there is no guilt. I just get back up and keep failing. But I see incremental progress, so I persist at it. I am obsessed with the Eye now. If any have freed your hearts of guilt, I don’t care your creed, breed or philosophy, we be family.

    Freedom from guilt is my mantra. Because no one is right and nothing is wrong.
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    Post by dan Thu Feb 15, 2018 6:57 am

    Apophis,

    You claim to be able to derive persons from numbers.  I challenge that assertion.  I claim that mathematics is an integral part of the mental constitution of persons, along with aesthetics and morality.  

    You have to posit multiple sources to produce numbers, nature and humans.  Your cosmology....... your cosmogenesis is thereby incoherent.  I subscribe to the coherence theory of truth (CohTT).  Incoherence simply has no traction in our minds.  It is self-defeating.  I rest my case.  
    ...........

    As for the politics of Disclosure, I have been informed that a friend of Ron’s, Bill Happer, has been appointed as the Science Advisor to the President.  Bill is in favor of Disclosure.

    I asked Ron if there was anything still standing in the way of Disclosure.  No, not according to his understanding.  

    I’m in favor of Disclosure, and so is the Princess.  The arm wrestling contest scheduled for this afternoon then should seal the deal.  Then all we have to do is get the word out.  

    If Happer has been selected, it has not yet been published.  

    I’ve not heard from the Princess, since last night about the schedule for the contest.  I hope that it is still on.  The prize would be the hearts and minds of humankind.  No?
    ..........

    Back to Apophis.......

    You are making an assertion.  An assertion, and the truth thereof, can only be made or claimed by a person.  There are no facts or truths independent of persons.  Numbers are purely mental.  Numbers do not have minds of their own.  Only persons entertain the logic of numbers.  

    How can we speak of logic, without invoking an entire Logos?  Logic and numbers do not exist in isolation from some larger reality.  How can there be sounds without hearing?  
    .........


    The last word is that the gotomeeting is on.......


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    Post by @awestruckt Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:11 am

    Where can we find gotomeeting login info?
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:20 am

    It’s a very simple formula, Dan is making it too complicated.

    Sat Chit Ananda, Sat is that never changes, Truth, Absolute Being. Chit is consciousness. Ananda is bliss. Absolute Bliss Consciousness.

    Perception, Perceived, Perceiver

    Personal Body-Mind is the illusion. Perception is a mind event. Thus to say: ‘I am my perception’ is not an accurate expression. Perception is not separate and external. Namely, that the perceived is not separate from the perceiver. It would be more accurate to say that the substance of perception is the reality of consciousness. After all, everything we know, we know via consciousness and not via perception. Perception is constantly changing, consciousness is not. Consciousness (what I truly am) is undefinable and it would be inaccurate to refer to it as perception.

    Use belief of separation until you are done with it. As of the distance between the observed and the observer, indeed, is zero distance. We do not perceive an external world. We perceive our perception of it, which is at zero distance.

    But this is simply a pointer. It serves to clarify that the feeling of separation lacks evidence. Zero distance is not the ultimate truth since it still refers to an observed and to an observer. It is important to use the pointer and disregard it once it has served its purpose. The purpose being to clarify the lack of evidence that supports the belief in separation and to set enough doubt about the belief in a external world.

    Distance is a mind event. It is not reality. It is based on the belief in the separate reality of form.
    Reality belongs to consciousness and not to forms. Any belief based on separation is a lie.

    My kind don't seek to hoard our knowledge a secret, nor do we desire to build a place of pilgrimage on it.

    We are the TRANSMITTERS and it only works with the above formula.

    Remember Dan is Half-Wise and One-Eyed, he won’t meet this in his heart yet.

    That’s his journey and a very beautiful One to Awareness of himself as IT.

    Names are derivative, remove the names and be your own guru, your own priest.

    You have it All within yourself.

    You need no distant idea of God to lead you.

    You are appearing in consciousness.

    This was always the freedom of Jesus’ Awareness.

    The blind hermit with his lamp follows Sophia on the path.

    The Veil of ISIS

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    Post by painterdoug Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:23 am

    On the request of Princess Aliyah

    I am a bird of the heavenly garden
    I belong not to the earthly sphere.
    They have made for two or three days
    A cage of my body. - Rumi
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:38 am

    Beautiful thoughts...and calming.

    Received.

    The Princess’ thought reminds of an eighth-century female Sufi saint, known as Rabia al-Adawiyya, is said to have walked through her hometown of Basra, in modern-day Iraq, with a lit torch in one hand and a bucket of water in another. When asked why, she replied that she hoped to burn down heaven and douse hell’s fire so people would – without concern for reward or punishment – love God.

    I echo that, I seek to burn down Heaven and douse the fires of Hell so we can freely Love.

    Perhaps the Princess echoes Rabia or Rabia echoes Her. I have not studied female mystics much, though the Goddess fueled my personal combustion, but I shall dive in to their waters at once.

    https://oneworld-publications.com/muslim-women-mystics-pb.html

    This moment here on OMF for me, was worth it all...I see HER, where before I only saw her footprints in my heart.

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    This post today by me and connection to the sufis is the smelliest thing I ever wrote.

    Because I expose Nature as a Mythopoetic matrix, which is why I write about it surreally using the eyes of different myths.

    I don’t care what ever comes out of Dan, or if he sees through the Matrix reality, this foundational understanding of Nature and our relation to it is part of your Key.

    I hope the bees enjoy the honey.

    0 = 1 - 1

    Say to yourself as a mantra until you are free...

    I am the Way, the Truth and the Life!

    You, whole, with nature make a bridge to Reality.

    The Rainbow Bridge


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    Post by painterdoug Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:36 am

    there is no link available yet we will get the link up soon
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Feb 15, 2018 12:07 pm

    I tell you what, this place is Magick....



    Please just let me be Green Dan.

    No more arguments.

    The Veil of ISIS is...Green

    My fiancé had a dream she wore a green wedding veil.

    I know what that means in the Sky.

    So beautiful to see the Goddess speak through her dreams and in Nature.

    This is bliss.

    Nirvana, must be.
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    Post by painterdoug Thu Feb 15, 2018 12:26 pm

    Q and A with Dan Smith Hosted by Painter Doug and Princess 3 pm e s t

    Please join my meeting from your computer, tablet or smartphone.
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    You can also dial in using your phone.
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    Post by dan Thu Feb 15, 2018 12:31 pm

    The gotomeeting is still set for today, 3 to 4 EST........

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Feb 15, 2018 4:05 pm

    I know who the Princess is and exactly what she is doing.



    I am as gentle as a cooing dove
    Or fire incarnate
    The Water of Life cools
    The Flames of Chaos
    The black serpent wings
    Uncoil into the winds
    Of Amber time
    The black hole gave
    Me life from a Star
    I remember the moment
    Of my implosion
    I AM Ascending
    On wings of blue and red flame
    Royal Purple

    The black serpent stirs...

    Let’s get Enochian up in herez...



    Let’s get one thing clear, the Void will be your God until you acknowledge it is there, and once you do, you will make the rainbow connection.

    (I just wrote that last line and my Dad called)

    Surreal

    3:33 my dad just called me, I think he had a stroke. No worries. It’s all gonna be sunshine. Weird day.
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    Post by Cheguevoblin Thu Feb 15, 2018 4:58 pm

    Hope your Dad is okay Smelly.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:43 pm

    He ain’t dead yet, but we all could be any moment Wink

    I had just heard black hole Sun song before his call.

    Omg, too funny.

    He’s a tough old goat, runs in the family.
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    Post by dan Fri Feb 16, 2018 2:52 am

    Best wishes for you and your dad, smelly.
    ..........

    The times, they are a bit out of joint.  

    Can chicken little believe his ears?

    Is the Grey Lady a liar, an obstructor of justice?

    Is chicken little about to get hangry?  

    I don’t think we’d want to see that.  

    Is the Grey Lady just doing her job?  Do I need to make excuses for her?

    When we all become Monday morning quarterbacks, what will we think then about her behavior?  Did She contribute to the best possible world?  I sure hope so.  (How much room for hope, in the best possible world?)

    Has she not been playing right into the hands of chicken little?  

    One might still argue that.  If so, she’s being very sneaky about it.  She even managed to fool the Footmann.  That might even be funny.... as in..... ha, ha.  

    Is it possible that she might even be trying to protect us from the Footmann?  Stranger things are possible..... not that they ever happened before.  Has there ever been a higher stakes game of poker?  

    I’ll see you..... no I’ll call you.  Don’t call us.... we’ll call you.  

    And what do you mean..... us..... Kimosabe?

    Ok, sports fans, I’m still in this game.  Surprise me, Lord.  

    I won’t get hangry, yet.  But you’d better believe that this chicken is all ears.  

    If Foot doesn’t understand Debbie, how can he understand the Grey Lady.  I ask you.  And, trust me, he has no clue about Debbie.  



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    Post by 99 Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:02 am

    Those video's are not fake nor are the testimonies of those who are now part of Tom Delonge's org. That's my view. The notion that the grey lady reported that information because it's losing subscribers and blah, blah, blah, is, in my view, totally absurd. It's the top news publication in the country and it's not going to be publishing a story like it did on Dec.16th just for the sheer hell of it.

    And sure, there are crazy people everywhere, including the govt. I used to be a gov't employee myself and that's absolutely true. But to imply that those gov't people who contributed to the publication are crazy because there are crazy people in the gov't too. To say something like that is to imply that anyone who see's a UFO is crazy, well.... I'm very disappointed in Princess's view on that.

    Does she think your'e crazy too Dan wrt your Sophia experience? I bet she does.
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    Post by dan Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:16 am

    99,

    The game will only get more complicated.  

    We are dealing with many layers of truth.  

    Anger and finger pointing are not what the Doctor is asking for.  

    Let’s sit tight..... keep our ears open, and also to the ground.  

    Let’s let this Gordian knot unravel.  Just so long as the Center holds.  

    Let’s have a mustard seed of faith in the blind man’s bluff.

    I sincerely doubt that we can imagine how high the stakes are, in this final game of poker.

    We’re playing Texas Holdem. Don’t foldem, not yet, 99.



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    Post by 99 Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:19 am

    Who's doing the finger pointing Dan? She started it by calling us all crazy! She's playing 'the good wife', IMHO.
    At any rate, I'm not rooting for the side that's keeping secrets about UFOs. I'm for disclosure. I know what I saw and I'm just like everybody else who has seen them too, I want answers.
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    Post by dan Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:32 am

    If you can’t trust me, 99, who are you gonna trust?

    We’re playing Texas Holdem.  Don’t foldem..... not yet, 99.  

    And do hang on to your hat....... and your thinking cap.  

    We are playing many layers of blind man’s bluff.

    You are only on the second layer.  

    What layer do you think I’m on?  

    Were you to ask, you’d not be the only one.  Believe me.

    Crazy.......?  Amongst insiders, there is no greater term of endearment.  Consider yourself blessed, 99.

    Think of this as being the cone of silence, inside the echo chamber.  

    This would be a high rent district, don’t ya think?

    You see, 99, it’s quite possible that Foot understands Debbie, but he doesn’t want to reveal, yet, that he does.  You only get so many cards of presumed ignorance/innocence.  

    I may be the only one allowed to play all their cards.  

    If we do so much as blink, 99, the Grey Lady will have to drop the block buster.  We wouldn’t want that, would we, 99.  

    What she did drop..... she was just anteing up. I’m not as dumb as I look, 99.

    The Game would have been all over, had she done anything more. Hey, I’m just beginning to have some fun.  Let’s not be party poopers.  

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    Post by 99 Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:16 am

    Just got back from my morning jog. Yes I trust you Dan and we'll leave it at that.

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