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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

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    Post by dan Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:58 pm

    First topic message reminder :

    And, wait again, how does egolessnes differ from being born again.....?  

    It differs only superficially.  The form may appear very different, but not the underlying cause.

    Personal realization of truth.........?

    I’m arriving back in Baltimore.........
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    Post by hobbit Tue Dec 19, 2017 9:41 am

    Dan,

    I didn't fall off any cart, I crawled out of a hole in the ground.
    That hole is in a living planet.
    The planet will and has become whatever it's inhabitants so desire.

    But the vast majority of humans are so asleep to this reality that they are been led by the pied piper, the muslims take a much closer to ground approach, for very good reason.
    They lower their heads close to the ground and all think the self same at exactly the same time( most have alarms to indicate that precise timing from satellites)
    This used to occur in churches when humans kneeled down to all say the same things.

    This planet is created upon a lattice matrix, My left hand and right hand are perfectly attuned to this.

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    Post by GSB/SSR Tue Dec 19, 2017 10:48 am

    ETH takes first place in mainstream media ...

    http://www.newsweek.com/we-may-not-be-alone-pentagon-ufo-intelligence-752314


    So now you have the problem of the ETH using UTH simulations (including powerful predictive AI that appears like a CTC) to fool silly humans by manipulating the biological mechanisms controlling belief systems.

    A working flying saucer might help settle that argument. Kit Green always claimed the CORE STORY he had heard involved biological intelligence.

    In the BPW the ETH and UTH might be indistinguishable at the level of conscious human experience, which can be shut down, frozen or manipulated, allegedly (see Eric Davis on the reported encounter at Skinwalker Ranch).

    In the end it's a matter of faith once you reach the point where you cannot trust the illusive simulation of self.



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    Post by Guest Tue Dec 19, 2017 11:26 am

    Hobbit, I’ll never lower my head again and neither should any of these appearances.

    But, hey man, that’s their problem Wink

    We don’t have any problems because none are possible.

    One great lesson I learned, let people be as they are, loving fools or monstrous assholes.

    Very soon, you and I and all of us here now will be dead and our conflicts and missions will not matter.

    Wink

    The great equalizer. Give the next generation a chance to find kindness, love and compassion for each other. Ironically love of our common fate and circumstance and compassion for all others is at the heart of the stoic. Each of us can take our measure against the stoic virtues, you can do no better as a Human Being.

    Realizing the folly and meaningless of conflict is how you suffer all types of people and situations.

    Most will be awful irrational humans, which is why we must demonstrate the fine qualities of Humanity and suffer their ignorance and confusion, for truly, they know not what they do or how to live here now, but we can demonstrate this to them.

    Patience and compassion.

    Bear with them. These words have often helped me suffer Dan and the delusions of humanity Wink Dan is much clearer than he used to be.

    “When any person harms you, or speaks badly of you, remember that he acts or speaks from a supposition of its being his duty. Now, it is not possible that he should follow what appears right to you, but what appears so to himself. Therefore, if he judges from a wrong appearance, he is the person hurt, since he too is the person deceived. For if anyone should suppose a true proposition to be false, the proposition is not hurt, but he who is deceived about it. Setting out, then, from these principles, you will meekly bear a person who reviles you, for you will say upon every occasion, 'It seemed so to him.'"

    — Epictetus

    "It seemed so to him."
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    Post by dan Tue Dec 19, 2017 11:31 am

    Poor hobbit,

    You never got the Tinkerbell briefing. Think of all the things you still have to learn.


    Gary,

    There will be two paths to Disclosure.........

    1.) Baby steps method (BSM).

    2.) chicken little method (CLM).

    With the BSM, you follow the bouncing ball on the mass media. You will be preparing for the final exam, which be in a thousand years.

    With the CLM, you hit yourself over the head with a two by four. You will see stars. You will call it the vault of the sky, and declare it to be good. The Earth will be little bit harder. Then you will invent extraterrestrials, and sell the idea to Hollywood, and make a lot of money.



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    Post by Guest Tue Dec 19, 2017 11:37 am

    Bahahaha. I vote for hitting yourself in the head until you see it, best advice Dan ever had.

    I’m also for making a lot of money and living out the duration on some island far away from you fools, the Internet, Simulated reality and Gray assholes Wink
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    Post by painterdoug Tue Dec 19, 2017 1:42 pm

    speculating /

    Could Pres Trump be the disclosure President after all?   Could he have provided such a condition  around the world of disorientation, in language ,facts , actions and retractions ,that he has inoculated the world into a blasé non invested state?

    My friends outside our shared topic are reacting as bees smoked in a hive. A sort of; well so what and maybe its fake news anyhow, and I still have to get up and go to work.  

    Where is the WONDER ???  

    Remember how any inkling of a reality to this topic would risk toppling religions, peoples beliefs and engender fear?  
    Well perhaps that was true when people actually had beliefs.  

    But in Pres Trump world, even as early as a year in, people are unsure of anything and everything . They doubt everything they hear and read all on a bed of being dismayed with church,( pedo stuff), government (9/11 ),   the fake press, fake news, their celebrities and TV anchors falling in disgrace as the curtain is pulled back .

    So is President Trump crazy like a fox? Is he following a directive from the start with this topic in mind? Or am I calling the game from the armchair post play ?  

    Regardless, people are getting news about UFO programs and activity from top sources and somehow just going about their day, ho hum as I see it.

    Orson Welles War of the Worlds could only happen in a time of relative innocence and strong belief ,now past

    But in a post Trump, photoshop, plastic surgery, blue screen, self driving car , Sex robot, A. I. , drone, bot, blockchain, bit coin world etc ,  It seems overwhelming .

    Fake news or not, public perception is what matters .  Perhaps this is the best time ever to start to roll this and other held back truths out.  

    My dear father now passed always told me ," Doug , when I read it in the NYTimes, then Ill know its real."
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    Post by dan Tue Dec 19, 2017 1:47 pm

    It looks like we’ll be having parallel disclosure tracks.  The internet track will, of course, be fragmented into thousands of parallel tracks.  Everybody and their cousin will be in on the act.  There will be a simple taste test........  

    Is it the best possible world or not?  If not, why not?  

    If yes, who is it best for........ for you, me, the dolphins or for God?  Be prepared to defend your choice.
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    Post by Guest Tue Dec 19, 2017 1:52 pm

    The sheep will do what sheep do.
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    Post by painterdoug Tue Dec 19, 2017 2:01 pm

    garrrzzz

    "and the peeps, who aren't sheep, shall continue to reap" ...
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    no, just kidding
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    Post by Guest Tue Dec 19, 2017 2:09 pm

    Some dream they are sheep, but no...we are lions.

    We eat sheep.

    Not kidding.

    I love the taste of blood and death.

    Why fight it Wink
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    Post by presidentialufo Tue Dec 19, 2017 2:18 pm

    Please put on your seat belts. It appears we are about to go really really fast.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/does-trump-believe-in-ufos-sarah-huckabee-sanders-2017-12
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    Post by Guest Tue Dec 19, 2017 2:54 pm

    Marcus is speaking in my ear...

    “Think of yourself as dead. You have lived your life. Now, take what’s left and live it properly. What doesn’t transmit light creates its own darkness.”

    No time like now to choose virtue, you can turn from the dark side whenever you like.

    Give yourself absolution, now go forth in love.

    Love is much more than a feeling.

    Love is the only reason we exist.

    The BPW reduces down to nothing but Love.

    That’s not too shabby.
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    Post by Dodo bird Tue Dec 19, 2017 3:16 pm

    ETvsAI
    Have to disclosure before the machine learning does. The veil isn't large enough to conceal the planetary sized elephants anymore.
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    Post by 99 Tue Dec 19, 2017 3:35 pm

    It's going to take time for the general public to process the reality that we are being visited by unknown intelligences from other worlds and realms. For those who really haven't thought about  it too much but then start to dwell on it, they may experience so much fear and uncertainty about it, the fear factor alone may at times seem insurmountable. And like any other situation like that, they may end up going through the process of rebuilding the very core of their being so as to integrate the new information into whatever paradigm they are operating in. In other words, there will be many out there who will be going through the 'dark night of the soul'. For those who survive it, they will have won back a piece of their sovereignty and their fear  will have been replaced with a crystal clear self-awareness of who and what they are in a universe that, all of the sudden, got a whole lot bigger than it was before…
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    Post by Guest Tue Dec 19, 2017 3:37 pm

    That’s good stuff 99.
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    Post by 99 Tue Dec 19, 2017 3:45 pm

    Thanks garz.... Smile We already know this but just thought I'd say it as now's the time to say it. lol
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    Post by dan Tue Dec 19, 2017 3:58 pm

    And guess who wrote the tweet that Julian sent out this morning......

    It may just be weeks before Kevin’s Post friend in LA will be given information Tinkerbell.

    And who’d a guessed that a key player is in the Southern Hemisphere?

    The idea is to get the 32 global portals into alignment for the grand opening.



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    Post by Dodo bird Tue Dec 19, 2017 4:04 pm

    Where he called Puthoff a fraud?
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    Post by Guest Tue Dec 19, 2017 4:06 pm

    We are all frauds.
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    Post by Dodo bird Tue Dec 19, 2017 4:07 pm

    Hahahaha that was too easy
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    Post by dan Tue Dec 19, 2017 4:08 pm

    You got it....... but Hal is our favorite fraud........

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    Post by Guest Tue Dec 19, 2017 4:08 pm

    Wink
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    Post by Guest Tue Dec 19, 2017 4:09 pm

    Dan, you will always be my favorite fraud.

    One can’t pick their children or parents, or Eschatologists apparently.
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    Post by Dodo bird Tue Dec 19, 2017 4:14 pm

    The only question that has raced through my mind since the weekend is
    why now?
    Grant outlines otulines over 60 reasons why they wouldn't disclose in his last book. Some of these might be related to only a very specific circumstance related to the manner in which disclosure happens. But still, what is the reason for all of these efforts now. Is it just that it's been long enough or are there other reasons for all these efforts in different disclo camps at this particular time. Are we reaching a certain point in the mainstream technological process that requires disclosure?
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    Post by Guest Tue Dec 19, 2017 4:17 pm

    Sorry, why now?

    Now is always here, it is us who walks away from the ever flowing stream and gets lost in the woods.

    Life is meant for you to lose yourself in.

    The stream is always there.

    Why now?

    Something is always happening here.

    Why now?

    Because we are already home.

    Why now?

    Who cares and if you saw the map to all of time, could you understand it Wink

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