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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:58 pm

    First topic message reminder :

    And, wait again, how does egolessnes differ from being born again.....?  

    It differs only superficially.  The form may appear very different, but not the underlying cause.

    Personal realization of truth.........?

    I’m arriving back in Baltimore.........
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    Post by dan Mon Jan 15, 2018 10:37 am

    99,

    Amongst just the four us, there was the feeling of the potentiality of the moment.  That’s all, but we all live for such moments.  But, a couple of hours later, we had a virtual ‘hostage’ situation.  When you seem to set time on it’s ear, time can often come rushing back with a vengeance.  It does that.  

    Could that same magic be extendable to the whole world.....?  That would be the idea...... to set about to banish time.  A portal is a wrinkle in time, when externalities are held at bay.  The Princess can play with such moments.  She can stick her neck out.  Hollywood certainly does.  They are what makes the world go around.  

    Can we make the world stand still, without our falling off?  That is a trick.  

    Global events would have to be synchronized.  We do that once or twice a year, but too often in a negative way.  

    Had you been sitting at the next table, you might barely have noticed.  It was a sort of seance, without the table tipping.  The server might have tipped a bit.  But that was just about the tip, I’m sure.   

    Is that what all the fuss is about....... the lights in the sky and the circles on the ground?  What a snooze fest.  Nothing to see here.  There is just the quality of a waking dream.  Fleeting at best.  The world moves on....... inexorably?   Maybe not.  

    We are surrounded with deep space and deep time, and science has stooped to conquer that abyss.  It does it’s atomic magic.  We suppose that there is none other.  But physicists know that, deep down, every atom is a portal in its own right.  

    This is what Eric was trying to tell us...... the Presence of the present..... eternity in a moment ...... a few seconds of missing time.  If the food was not in front of us..... if our bowls were empty...... sorry, no magic.  Quakers all..... we have our moments of silence.  

    We do synchronize our souls...... in a blue moon.

    We’re looking for love in all the wrong places. Love makes the world go around, but it can also make it stop. We’ll have to be holding hands if we don’t wish to be thrown off.


    With the theory of evolution, we are but a flash in the pan..... we live on borrowed time...... the economy lives precariously, on borrowed money. The banks are our centers of synchronization of our infinite debts.

    But consciousness brings with it.... time and timelessness..... in a constant dance. All the objectivity in the world cannot banish subjectivity. It would sure look funny without it.



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    Post by hobbit Mon Jan 15, 2018 11:28 am

    Tempus fugit.

    Time flees.

    Consciousness is what creates the switching rates called time.
    our megalithic ancestors knew how to interact with time at portal chambers.
    They knew how to locally suppress the implosion rate over the outrush rate.
    they knew how to return into their tribes new vehicles, so did the Egyptians.

    There is no such force as time, it is a switching rate, the time on the moon is different to Earths, that's the big secret, the time on other planets is different to here, and We are creations of here and switching at this planets switching rate.
    I have vied many different times, it's far easier looking back
    http://www.ancient-wisdom.com/russiadolmen.htm


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    Post by dan Mon Jan 15, 2018 12:05 pm

    Well, hobbit,

    The Sufis speak of occasionalism.  Time is nothing but a string of occasions.  We string them together in our minds...... until we lose our minds.  Is this Indra’s necklace?

    Mind the gap between the moments.  That is where the elves and the erics do play...... that is down the rabbit hole.

    Mind _is_ the gap between the moments.  Mind is the glue of the occasions.  And what are the occasions?  It’s more glue...... all the way down.  Physicists know that.  It freaks them out..... when they think about it.  

    This is process philosophy. We are the processors of the cosmic computer. Is there computation without persons? There is no string without persons. The Monad is the ball of string that we unravel, until Alexander shows up. Alexander is the mushroom trip that cuts through knot of time. Once you have seen through time, it’s hard to go back to Kansas again.



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    Post by Bubbles. Mon Jan 15, 2018 12:16 pm

    Dan! 

    I had a dream last night that I was being briefed by the Aviary...At first I was excited and thought it would be ok, but I ended up hearing things that made me fall down and start crying. Jim Semivan was briefed too and was crying as well. Then Kit Green came up to me and held me in his arms! He told me that everything will be ok and that’s when I woke up.

    Later on I had a second dream. In this one Ron was secretly Jesus, but he didn’t know it. When I told him about it he thought I was just joking, but I could tell it was true! After that I entered a golden portal and received a telepathic message that the world is going to end and that people are going back to the source!


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    Post by hobbit Mon Jan 15, 2018 12:30 pm

    The Sufi spin.
    https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=sufi+spin&view=detail&mid=BC0D71DB6B04A2BFC818BC0D71DB6B04A2BFC818&FORM=VIRE

    Time relative to every so called atom, and to every field of zillions of such ( Your field) is switching in tandem with this planets self similar field.
    Each field has polarity and equator regions which spin in opposite directions.

    Locally alter this rate ( as the sufi do) then vary Your rate of switching.

    If then You focus ( attune ) to whatever time, there Your field will be.

    I have a unique talent, I can attune to this matrix, to the geometry of such, and thus can locate the implosion and outrush vortices.

    Location, location, location.

    But it takes two to tango, and the trees taught Me how to reverse My Northern hemisphere and Southern hemisphere field spin zones, trees are millions of years in advance of us.


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    Post by dan Mon Jan 15, 2018 12:52 pm

    Bubbles,

    Well, that was a dream and a half...... Ron as Jesus..... that would be something to behold...... aw, shucks.  

    Back to Source...... as soon as we’re ready, and we don’t have to all pile on at once.  We just go with the flow.  And that will be Eric, way out in front.  Me?  I’m just a conductor...... tickets, please.  


    Hobbit,

    Yes, the sufi spin..... each of us is a vortex.  

    And the trees are millions of years ahead of us........ trees knows all about patience. They have it for breakfast.

    Now, that’s my kind of evolution.  I’d never thought about it that way, but it sounds just about right.  

    Then there’s the no-spin zone......that’s when we’ve arrived.

    Those ubiquitous switchings........ it sounds a bit like like the firings of our neurons, even while asleep.



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    Post by hobbit Mon Jan 15, 2018 1:59 pm

    I should have explained about the Sufi spinning.
    they spin counter clockwise.

    This planets northern hemisphere spins counter clockwise, so does ours.
    By spinning that direction the Sufi are enabling the Southern Hemisphere spin from the planet to rise up through them, You can see it occur when their hands rise upwards.

    The trees do this at the equinox, they reverse their spin fields and the water FALLS to the top of every branch.

    I have levitated off the ground at high concentration points of outrush spin zones, and experienced pure love flowing out of this planet.

    It is all about spin, and portals are high concentration zones of one spin, so are volcanoes.

    We have been veiled from comprehending this knowledge by very advanced beings, they have an agenda , their agenda, so I have no problem with that.
    It is our responsibility to break free from such, not for any other beings to give it to us on a plate.

    They have almost total control, they are brilliant, but the kiddies are growing up and remembering, they cannot stop the information once enough humans remember from been then common knowledge to all.

    And spin is the method, as a Russian hero of mine knew full well.
    Kosyrev.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2xODjbfYw8
    And the king of spin Viktor schauberger

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    Post by dan Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:35 am

    Ok, we’re dowsing for truth...... love....... and God.  If there is any difference, this would not be the best possible world, would it?

    Right now, Kevin is our dowsing rod....... casting his fate upon the wind, with 42 cents in his pocket, and some leftover pizza.  

    We’ve fallen into a deep and crowded rabbit hole.  We’re trying to find the exits.  And we don’t want folks to be trampled in a stampede for the exits.  

    This will remain a delicate situation, until we can explain the good news to everyone.  This should not take more than a very few years..... proceeding mainly by word of mouth.

    I’m debating with the Princess about whether the world is worth saving.  She is doubtful.  So would be anyone who who does not believe that this is the best possible Creation.  

    I’m pretty sure that it is....... maybe more so than anyone else in the world.  Gee, I guess that makes me special.  

    If you know that this is the best possible world....... then we’re happy and we know it....... so we should be clapping our hands.  I’m clapping, and all I can hear are the angels clapping.  The demons look pretty sad.  

    I remain hopeful that we can work out the best possible PR deal with RH.  First item would be to work out the best possible arrangement to help Cyrellys manage OMF.  Yes?  

    All of this managing should be pay-as-we-go....... profits go to the best possible projects.  Yes?  

    And all of us involved are duty bound to maximize our fun..... for one day at a time, as long as we have the Omega in sight.  

    Ok, right now, the first priority is to get kevin and the east coast maureen on the same page.  That would make things a lot simpler.  


    2:10.........

    Ok, sports fans, in case you haven’t figured it out yet, we going through the portal of trust.......

    That is how disclosure must be done...... on trust.   No contracts.  It’s a look in the eye and a hand shake........ period..... end of story.  

    I’m a jesus freak.  I won’t trust anyone who is not open to becoming a jesus freak.  

    Why do we have to be jesus freaks.....?

    Because, this is all about persons and personalism.  And jesus is the first person, according to my history books.  

    To get to heaven, we all have to be on the same glory train. The only question is who is the driver of our train.


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    Post by hobbit Tue Jan 16, 2018 10:58 am

    IMHO,
    The story of Jesus is that of a shaman.

    Forty days and nights in the dessert with only water, results in been filled with the holy spirit ( consciousness)



    12+1=13.
    13 phases of the moon yearly.
    13 menstrual cycles a year.
    13 tribes of Israel.

    0,1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,55,89,144 (thousands per chance?)

    The sun reaches it's lowest point on the 21st of Dec.
    It remains there ( dies) for three days, then arises again.


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    Post by @awestruckt Tue Jan 16, 2018 11:19 am

    "Ok, we’re dowsing for truth...... love....... and God. If there is any difference, this would not be the best possible world, would it? "

    Interesting synchronicity (that's the buzzword these days) in reading this this morning, Dan. Just last night I was wrestling with the idea of whether love or truth was the greater virtue, to be more highly prized, and whether one can exist without the other. I was asking my wife that very question at dinner.

    Several months ago I had a thought that seemingly was not my own. It asked the question: Do you desire truth or comfort. I wrestled for a while, not because I didn't know my answer, but because I didn't want to have to make the choice. But it kept coming back to my mind over several weeks. I answered truth of course. I was annoyed by the question because I felt that whoever was aware enough to pose the question would know that it really isn't a choice for me.

    That was just before I fell down the "rabbit hole" seemingly out of the blue after seeing first Greer's Undisclosed, then the TTS/Tom Delonge video, and finally stumbling across this forum.

    No real point to my post except to point out the interesting coherence between your post this morning and my own recent journey, and just to say that I hope that someday my (our?) quest for truth will be met with answers that satisfy at a visceral level that unquenchable longing to know...

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    Post by hobbit Tue Jan 16, 2018 11:24 am

    http://blog.hasslberger.com/2007/05/kozyrev_aether_time_and_torsio.html

    Nikolai Kosyrev.

    Everything in creation is created and sustained within it's torsion field of consciousness.
    Everything in creation can become whatever it's consciousness field declares.
    You reap as You sew.

    This torsion field exists upon a geometric lattice, and has vortices points.
    A unique field can be accessed with sufficient high voltages and frequencies ( TT Brown, Nikola Tesla)

    This world can be whatever We so desire, if enough input is achieved into the overall field.

    You have to know a system to interact with said system.
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    Post by Bubbles. Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:06 pm

    This man died in a crash and entered a timeless existence where he saw both Jesus and God!

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    Post by dan Tue Jan 16, 2018 2:00 pm

    Hey, sports fans, are getting on the same page with this, or what......?

    It looks like it’s a go, but that’s just my opinion.

    Actually, it sounds to me like I’m trying to reinvent the TTSAAS public benefits corporation.  Maybe Tom will let us sneak on board.  

    And, btw, it’s very important for all of us to be on the same page with Jeffrey Kripal and his AoA book. That might even be half of our new bible.




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    Post by hobbit Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:57 am

    Dan,

    Had never heard of Mr Kripal, but He looks like a breath of fresh air into the sails.

    Just remember that the wind is not blowing though.
    The atmosphere is displacing relative to the spin field of consciousness it encounters.
    So any new bible needs to have the truth written in it this time, not fictions built around the truth.
    A bible where no fear exists, that is the only thing to fear is fear.

    fear induces Your own personal consciousness field to contract to protect Your heart, that is where Your eternal self resides in 5D.
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    Post by dan Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:18 am

    hobbit,

    Yes, Kripal is an important name.  His book is AoI, not what I had previously stated.  The four authors that he brings together are M, F, V & M.  The two M’s I had not heard of.  Jeffrey is a friend of Diana P, it is important to note.  She knows the significant players.  

    Foot suggests that Kevin is the point of a spear.  I suggest a platen.  There is a minimal maintenance cost.  No cash allowed.  I suggested coins for the laundromat, but that was vetoed.  

    Right now, fence repair is a serious issue for us and others.  The nyt story is still reverberating.  Not sure what the next shoe will be.  

    It’s about managing the magic.......yes.  But, more, it’s about mustering the magic.  It’s about the conversion from managing by directive to managing by objective, now that we have the Omega in sight.  We’re going to win this one for the gipper.  

    Along with the K4, we have the Cambridge Inklings.  They could be the C3.  Jeffrey never mentions them, I don’t believe.  Let me check.  

    And, yes, I am attempting to steal some lightning from Aliyah.  It would be no mean feat.  She is a tough customer.  

    This is all about the routinization of charisma and/or the reemergence thereof.  Ray B tells me that there is a movement to resurrect the Yoshua/Yahushua saga.  That would perhaps reduce some confusion.

    All this is a large order of business, and we have to walk very softly, but, with Omega, there is a big stick..... to be used very sparingly. That’s the only magic we have going..... in the end. But that Telos is, likely to be the mother of all magic.



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