Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

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And, wait again, how does egolessnes differ from being born again.....?  

It differs only superficially.  The form may appear very different, but not the underlying cause.

Personal realization of truth.........?

I’m arriving back in Baltimore.........

Report from big rock candy mountain.......... a bit of a mashup......

I’m supposed to get a ‘briefing’ next week from Kevin, a student of Skai.........

If it even comes off, I expect it to be a complete anti-climax..... already all reported.  There might be a tidbit or two.  

The upshot is, as I’ve already reported, I’ve been set up to take the fall, as gentlemanly as possible....... chicken little gets to also be the grinch who stole christmas..... and then get out of Dodge, as quickly as possible.......

Talk about fake news, everything is, except possibly the j-man...... and I’ll give you a buddha or two.  

People want this to be about beginnings, but it’s mostly about endings.

Yes, I regret to report that our mission is accomplished.  We won this for the gipper, and this was the big One.  

Now what......?  All that’s left is a debriefing, and a turning off of the lights.  Sure, this might take another thousand years, but it truly will be an anti-climax...... that’s the whole point of the Millennium.  We have nowhere else to go, except to go home, much to the relief of the conservationists.  And we’ll go home holding hands, or not at all.  

Getting here was ninety percent of the ‘fun’.  Get over it, get used to it.  

Yes, this was about managing the magic.  It was on NPR the other day.   It was a love story about two guys who met in the tunnels of Disney world.  Yes, behind the scenes of the magic kingdom has all the charm of a high school basement.  So, the good news is that we’re finally going to be introduced to the magic kingdom.  The bad news is...... well, just look around you, folks.  

It will be time to stand down.......  who has to stand down......?..... well, mostly those who stood up..... on the clouds...... but let’s name a few..... mainly the capitalists and the scientists...... but then I will also have to give a shout out to certain, small portion of the ‘Jews’........ hmmm....... they cheated a bit....... yes, someone had to cheat, and they ‘volunteered’.  And, actually, their job is not quite over, but it is winding down, apace.

The cheat had to do particularly with a small but significant part of the holocaust.  Yes, there was a ‘deliberate’ portal aspect to one small portion of the holocaust, which, in itself, was dreadfully real.  But, yes, there was a portal aspect, which has since been exploited.  Yes, there was a particular, and significantly Jewish, kabal that did not hesitate to exploit this historical wrinkle in time.  They have done their job, and some may well not know how to walk away.  It’s not always easy.  

Yes, this was the best possible ‘cheat’.  And, now, they’ll have an opportunity to play a special role in the standing down of the capitalists and scientists.  They were kinda left holding the bag, thank you very much.  It is a bag job....... the best possible one.  

Yes, this does have something to do with the showdown between Donald and Hillary.  Hillary was perfectly prepared to kick the disclosure can down the road for a few more years, and that may well happen, even so.  But the swamp has been drained a bit.  

We do want this WoM/MoAPS to proceed slowly and deliberately, but not quite as slowly as some who are still standing up.  And we definitely do not want this to be a clubby affair.  WYSIWYG.  There were a few, amongst the people of the Katechon, who should have known better, and who did know better.  They know who they are.  They might wish to keep a real low profile, going forward.  Many are the innocent.  They should now stand up, to help with the standing down.  

Part and parcel of this standing down issue will be the Israel question.  Israel is in a particularly delicate spot.  The Mideast will be the laboratory for our brave new world.  Will they hold hands and sing kumbaya?   Might be.  Roping in the messianic Jews will be part of it.  


1:15...........

NorWon,

The busses have never stopped leaving.  Getting a ticket....... that’s another matter.  I think we’ll have to form a ticket committee.  You can volunteer.  


But, yes, Virginia, we do have a messiah problem......

And I’ve taken it upon myself to personally solve the messiah problem by choosing to not stand on any ceremonies.  If I have anything to say about it, I’m gonna be the messiah, nay, I’m gonna be 4M/K/SoT/X2, quite arbitrarily, just so there won’t have to be a shoving match.  And, for taking all this trouble, Eric’s stern gaze is my reward.  

If anyone has a better idea for dealing with the messiah problem, speak up...... better sooner than later.  

The #1 problem, after dealing with the messy antics, is going to be to empower women.  The women have the power of the womb.  Without personal empowerment, women will not be able to exercise power over their wombs.  For many evangelicals, this and guns are their drop dead issues.  To those I say...... drop dead.  

After these three or four big problems, the other problems of the Millennium will loom much smaller.  They will be manageable.  

Getting rid of tin horn dictators from third world countries....... I don’t think that will be so difficult.  We’ll have chats with them on the other side..... speak truth to power.



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When does the first bus leave to go home? Who do I have to talk to about getting a ticket? I'd really like to experience some of that timelessness...

Doug, his bullshit is so transparent and pathetic.

I loved his videos.

I love how he tells them to leave everyone, fuck em.

Hmmm, yes that’s what to do, fuck it all

Why didn’t I think of that?

As big a fool as he is...I am a bigger one.

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Sorry Dan, didn’t read your big post yet. Not responding to you.

Dan, responding to your post.

I dunno, a lot there, I get it I guess.

No messiahs in my neck of the Woods, I looked, only us fools.

I say we finally wrap it on Messiahs.

As you say, time for us to stand up.

dan   I'm overwhelmed and under headphones trying to write a new song.  you recent posts are over my head without some study and decoding. will try later tonight

garzzz/  i know a very famous self help enlightenment guru .   he writes books , very successful and has an enormous following.  

but i asked him, what if all your books actually worked? and all your followers were "enlightened",and  no more need for you cause they were now your equals!  

and then they all started writing their own books?  now competing for your market share. dead silence, he didn't answer me to this day.  

you see, he doesn't want to sell the answer.   he's selling the hope for the answer.

thats where the money is.  not in the courses success , but rather in its failure

enlightenment is a great business as long as your followers remain ,unenlightened...

Doug, yeah, I like a guy named Jed McKenna. I quote him a lot.

His point is the same.

The true Master’s disciples wake up, easy test. Nuf said.

I see how to sell it. I studied the phonomena of guru due to OSHO.

It helps some people wake up, but yeah, it’s all mostly bullshit what’s out there now.

Tony Parsons and Rupert Spira are real Masters out there now.

As I have often said and Jed says, if it doesn’t feel like your skin is being ripped off, you are lying to yourself.

I don’t have to prove to anyone I know.

I have felt to write books, but there are enough.

I’ll write a book on how to farm maybe, something useful, once I learn how

I just have to keep my hands in the dirt.

This I know.

Eric,

Messiah problem.........

Here I am as Chicken Little. And then there is John 16. It’s pretty hard not to connect those dots, and I’m not going to pretend to be oblivious.

Also we have personalism to contend with, and the whole prophetic tradition. Every prophet has claimed to be the last. If this is the MoAPS, there is unlikely to be another.

There is no question about my having any special powers..... I’m a one trick pony. This was clearly a setup...... a package deal from the get go. So, yes, while we’ve gone to all the trouble, it would be a dereliction of duty not to attempt to wrap up the loose ends. Otherwise, they’ll just come back to haunt what remains of history. We do the whole enchilada, with 4M/K..... That should settle it, given that Chicken Little is not off his rocker.

You are clearly off your rocker and we all enable you.

I'll continue to be oblivious for the duration

This New York Times story better be pretty explosive. We've been on the edge of our seats for 70 years.

Course C

NYT  story?

Coures C / Dan

If the NYTimes does comes out with something,

I'll wager its by Ralph B

I recall seeing his name on the Delonge chat after his presentation , and remember I told you I met him at a W Reich "ether" discussion in NYC.

Ralph is tuned in

painterdoug wrote:Course C

NYT  story?

Coming in the next few days. Probably Sunday. Conflicting reports about what it will focus on. Something to do with the government studying UFOs.

Sadly, knowing the Times, it will not aim to shake things up too much.

Everyone loves the Trickster as long as they have him on a short lease.

CorCat,

Sorry, but mama don’t allow no bomb shells around here.  You say we’ve been waiting 70 years.   Boy, have I got news for you....... try 7,000 years.  Clearly CorCat, you’re in the wrong place.  You should join the Sekret Machines brigade.  Mama don’t allow no fools around here.  But thanks for the heads up.  The NYT will play cool, if they play at all.  

But this does provide a segue for me to elaborate on yesterday’s call out..........

You’d a thought that the Jews would be all over the Messiah plot.  Are they stupid, or what?  I don’t think they are stupid, so it must be some sort of political gridlock between the secularists and the Torah guys.  

Trust me, the Mossad is on top of the R,A&D show.  Do they think it’s some kind of joke?  Again, I don’t think they’re that dumb.  Are they handing the Messiah gambit to us, out of the goodness of their hearts?  Am I supposed to be their Messiah goy?  

Is the Mossad sitting on their thumbs?  Maybe they see us as the most likely honest brokers.  Aliyah may also be making it difficult for them to access the hive/hub.   Can she take on the Mossad, single handed?

I doubt that this is just a power play........ not about something so critical.  If there is a pie here, everyone and their brother has a finger in it.  Everyone is watching over everyone else’s shoulder.  I get breathing space, but that’s about all.  

If this were a poker game, the deck has been pretty well stacked, and everyone knows it.  

What about the game in DC......?  

Is Donald being crazy like a fox?  I think so.  He is running interference for the whole show, if there is a show.  

Enough of the pols want to see him go....... there’s just one slight hitch..... Mike. Mike might actually be certifiable.  He is also against Disclosure, and I hear that it’s not even possible to converse with him about it..... not a good sign.  

So, is the Grey Lady going to pour fuel on the fire?  They may figure that complete silence speaks too loudly....... better to just add a few twigs.  

Here’s my two bits.......... yes, Virginia, we have a phenomenology problem.  That would wake up the secularists, and they do need waking....... well, that’s an understatement.  The sleeping dogs.....? Hmmm.......... forget the flu, I’d want to double up on my rabies shots.  



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Dan, so I have personally let go of the myth of spirituality completely.

So where many say we are spiritual and immortal, how can they honestly say that, we can’t know.

No faith or beliefs to save anyone.

Spiritual experience is just more of the personal story.

How can there even be a nod to the monad?

A mo-what?

Accepting Truth here now is all we can know.

I reinforce only my personal story though my experience.

And then there is thought. Honestly, thought is a distraction.

So let’s say one works with their senses and living in the heart, intuitively led, that’s it. That’s life. Just flowing from this understanding in the moment aware.

From this place, there is nothing for anyone else but you in your experience.

That’s the simplest I can reduce down how to live.

All else other than 0 and 1 as imaginary.

To be 1 means you can’t know what non-being is 0. You may be able to get a sense of what it is not.

That’s the bargain.

Soooooo, can the subtle then come into our Awarensss as aliens, lights, etc?

To be considered by us, a form must appear, otherwise, ignore it.

The point I learned was not to become still enough to rise into some super spiritual level of life, but instead being still allows one to parse the many inputs of sense always coming in and using time, you can make an informed decision on what to do next.

What sense would you call divination? Psychic sense? Sixth sense? Seventh? Eighth?

In Truth there is just ‘what is’ and what appears. Who can talk about what is?

Those aligned with ‘what is’ are living life.

Are the rest scenery?

Isn’t this an open secret?

Anyone can see it.

Someone here has another secret?

No you don’t

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Future of food. Possible model for our farm.

https://www.facebook.com/happenfilms/videos/1581049781965615/

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Our conceptualizations are considered real, but they are not. We prioritize our experience by dividing the concepts.

So what is beyond concepts of delusion and enlightened?

The Great Way is not difficult, just give up the argument about life and your concepts about it. Drop out. Take it as it come as a whole.

Enlightenment may be an accident, meditation makes you accident prone.

The practice is to make yourself more accident prone.

See life non-conceptually and the mind and body drop away.

Nothing in the world is hidden.

This is the teaching of emptiness.

Everything that is is on the surface.

Life is a Möbius strip, one continuous surface. No hidden depths. Nothing more real than now. Just a thought experiment.

What if everything that I experience is all there is? Nothing is hiding.
Things are as they appear. No ontological substrata, but we know we come from nothing and to nothing we return.

So can we do away with the myth of spirituality and seduction of perfection?

We divide our life into two, phenomenal and numinous. If we can only spiritually practice war with ourselves until the bad parts are gone, then we get our prize!

Heaven, Nirvana, Valhalla.

Our world view is intertwined with the myth of spirituality. If we can only try hard enough we insist.

Practice of any gaining idea is treading water.

Just relax and see how it goes

It will all be fine.

Perfection is found in our bumbling and imperfection. We do not seek for anything. We find Truth here in this world.

Living and taking it as it comes is enlightenment.

The mind makes stories.

We have a few facts, the rest we made up.

Anything we really look into, we find nothing, because nothing seems to be here.

It is impossible to judge the life and experience of another person.

So Dan, you are telling stories.

“To live outside the law you must be honest.”

Hello friends. I've been with you over the past few months at times but remained quiet, and not. But I missed the gotomeeting the Princess personally was so kind to invite me to. I was 15 minutes late due to a work issue and could not get in. Did it still happen? I was hoping someone would let me know what I missed.Can anyone explain this please? And don't say it a trick of light. It isn't. So why are features on out moon being hidden? Sure I'm curious how they are doing it to live observation but the more important question is, why? I think we need some answers and soon. https://youtu.be/8WvL11u-FHA

We need what?

We need nothing.

No one here to be needy.

There are no questions and no answers.

How will you ever work out your conundrum?

Guess we will all just have to live life out to find out what happens.

It’s an open secret.

Memento Mori Amor Fati

Not too shabby, Eric, @ (:56........ emojis.... can’t live with them..... can’t live without them......

Answers..........?

Yes, Earthling, we are all greedy for answers, every last one of us, except Eric,  And, he’s smarter than all of us, put end to end. The answers are within.  Those are the only answers that count.  They are right on the other side of your curtain.  We each have our own curtain.  We will each know what we need to know, when we need to know it.  Our personal portals are...... well,....... personal.  Get over it.... get used to them....... persons..... can’t live with them.......

Telling stories...... Yes.... Wonderous stories......

Just call me chicken Scheherazade little.  

The only thing Eric hasn’t quite figured out is that he thinks I’m acting unnaturally. Hmmm...... I wouldn’t be too sure about that, Sham.


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Doesn’t matter what I think Dan, not one bit

All my writing just elucidating and working out my understanding.

Understanding is ok, but it isn’t the experience of it and perhaps in all my babbling, something came through of my love for my fate, love of my life, love of the Cosmos and love for all of us.

For we only exist in Love truly, an ocean of it.

That’s not something anyone can know but me or find but for themselves.

But as much as is written of Human understanding of Truth, it is the experience that we can’t communicate and stumble over.

The only way I found to do this, is to drop it all and never pick anything up again.

Drop all ones beliefs and accept our fate.

Then The Sun will illuminate our dark chaotic wrath with cleansing Joy of Light.

For we are Light and Energy, just constricted in these forms.

Energy just is ‘what is’.

No one has any moral authority, no one.

I look around seeing all these towers to Heaven, towers to ego.

God is our creation, kill Him with your steely knives.

Kill the beast of salvation.

The owl of this world loves to live in the ruins of love.

The Truth is bitter because our world is a lie, it becomes sweet to the soul, eventually, once the mind stops thrashing.

I came here and met Dan trying to understand what I thought had happened to me. Nothing happened to me.

Absolutely nothing has happened.

All is as it always has been and will be.

I come and go in this place.

Time is the wake of being.

garzparz wrote:But as much as is written of Human understanding of Truth, it is the experience that we can’t communicate and stumble over.

this resonates for me

if the truth is ideally personal, experience is its foundation.

Dan,

Yes, you know me though, I am a big baby and want answers! I want them now! There is a huge secret and everyone blames NASA and our government. But I don't really think they are to blame. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think so.

If you consider that if the UT's, or ET's, wanted us to know then certainly no one but the galactic federation or God herself would be the only one able to stop them. Surely, it isn't up to our government entirely.

So is this the case? Is is written by our Creator that we should not know the truth? Or does she have nothing at all do to with it? The latter would be my guess. Just my personal belief. This is an order from a higher counsel much more advanced than our government but not from the One herself.

So the question is still the same. Why the secrets? Nothing more. Certainly there are other dimensions, surely there are aliens (UT's and ET's), spacecraft, portals, bases and life on all the other planets, spirits, malicious and benevolent higher entities. We would all love to know how, and what, and where, and why. But why the SECRETS? Why is this so important? Would it ruin the human experience or their prime directive? Maybe both.

And if that is really the only question then it certainly is more personal. Why should it matter to me if the whole world is given full or even partial disclosure? If my life, and how I live it, depends on whether or not I am enlightened on who is keeping us in the dark and why, or what our true history is, then would I truly be a changed person if I knew truth? Change comes not just from knowledge but from the heart as well. I will always listen to my heart and follow it before I listen to what someone else tells me is the truth.

I suppose what the truth (if I could actually be sure it was the truth) would do for me would be to understand what I am able to do to try and prepare my daughter with the most important set of skills in this life in order for her to reach her highest potential and protect her from those who do not have her best interests in mind. This has been my biggest concern with the discovery of all these deceptions. To find out how to protect my self and my daughter, and every other one of the loving souls on this earth.

The more I seek the truth the more I see that my life seems more like a perceived individual reality than a shared one. Perhaps this is true and not true at the same time. But then this is probably only true in such that it is my biggest fear.

Where you gonna run Earthling?

Where you gonna hide from the Truth Earthling?

Don’t worry, things will go as they go.

Just be as you feel to be.

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You gotta love the one trackness of Mind wanting to keep to the Great Conspiracy/Story.

I marvel at it.

It is a jewel that can make anything appear using Energy.

Back to the show...

Amor Fati

Garz,

That's a good question. Does anyone know where the escape route is?

Even more importantly, does anyone knows where it goes?

I'm listening very carefully.

Some people say this is a prison planet. Could it be that this is actually the best place to be? If so, then I'm not looking to "run" anywhere.

We are the jailers in our own prison.

But then there is the part where no one is here and life is but a dream.

They say that too.  

No need run off anywhere.

The Cosmos is an appearance.

A great thought.

No where to go but oblivion, yee haw

An appearance eventually...just disappears.

**POOF**

garzzz   /  Some people say this is a prison planet. Could it be that this is actually the best place to be? If so, then I'm not looking to "run" anywhere./

yes good observation,  i often give this thought .  

the book " a course in miracles  " states one can never know their own best interest.  

should an earthquake happen,  some would run out the building and into the street  , some stay where they are,  who can say whats the safest move until later in heinsight ?

i have had heartaches in love , I was later relieved these losses were a blessing.

someone looses their legs, their life changes , and now they enjoy a more full and rewarding life among others disabled than they ever did as a normal bodied person etc

we can rationalize anything I guess.  but should so called disclosure happen,  and lets say a hive mind is eventually absorbed into society, etc  maybe we will be wishing for the good old days?  

heaven and hell are right here .

btw   changed my pic to a painting i did of myself many years ago  


yes garrzzz    but I'm curious, i know there is more than meets the eye, and i don't like someone pulling one over on me

curiosity killed the cat?  or made it live a more interesting life?

 i want to know some things others do about the reality of this earth. if others here know about off world stuff, I want to know too. whats wrong with that?  

I'm still going about hoeing my garden .  but i want to know, dan does too, and probably all the rest of us or we would be elsewhere.  

love the farm idea.  its a good way to spend your time

No one or where is safe.

I take great comfort in that.

We are all in this together no matter a person’s story or imagination.

Death, the Great redux of All to One or no-thing.

I see life as the Light touching chaotic dark and they balance it out or not.

Then the light or Energy simply receeds like the tide.

The water is the water.

Doug, I can only watch it happen.

I am free inside myself.

No one can imprison an empty cage

It’s not my story or any of ours.

We would do well to remember this.

Nice work Doug.

Anyone following this story? Sounds like one for Kit Green to investigate.


Brain abnormalities found in victims of US embassy attack in Cuba
Mysterious attacks that harmed 24 Americans in Havana resulted in changes to white matter tracts in brain, doctors say

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/dec/06/us-embassy-attack-cuba-brain-abnormalities-victims