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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?
Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin
With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.
Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.
So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?
And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?
Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.
Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.
So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?
And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?
Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.
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It was in Attica where two crows sprang
Raised with copper wire.....
Per link:http://www.linsdomain.com/totems/pages/crow.htm
Keeper of the Sacred Law
Crows are the keepers of the Sacred Law
and to have a Crow totem is very powerful.
Personal Integrity are your watchwords and your guide in Life.
If you have a Crow totem, your prime path
is to be mindful of your opinions and actions.
You must be willing to walk your talk,
to speak your truth and to know your life's mission.
Crow is a omen of Change.
Crow lives in the void and has no sense of time,
therefore, it sees past, present and future simultaneously.
Crow merges both light and dark, both inner and outer.
It is the totem of the Great Spirit and must be respected as such.
They are symbols of creation and spiritual strength.
Look for opportunities to create and manifest the magic of life.
Crows are messengers calling to us
about the creation and magic that is alive in the world today
and available to us.
Raised with copper wire.....
Per link:http://www.linsdomain.com/totems/pages/crow.htm
Keeper of the Sacred Law
Crows are the keepers of the Sacred Law
and to have a Crow totem is very powerful.
Personal Integrity are your watchwords and your guide in Life.
If you have a Crow totem, your prime path
is to be mindful of your opinions and actions.
You must be willing to walk your talk,
to speak your truth and to know your life's mission.
Crow is a omen of Change.
Crow lives in the void and has no sense of time,
therefore, it sees past, present and future simultaneously.
Crow merges both light and dark, both inner and outer.
It is the totem of the Great Spirit and must be respected as such.
They are symbols of creation and spiritual strength.
Look for opportunities to create and manifest the magic of life.
Crows are messengers calling to us
about the creation and magic that is alive in the world today
and available to us.
_________________
"It is not in the stars to hold our destiny but in ourselves."
William Shakespeare
James Forrestal in the news.
Pushed from a ledge(?) and sold for a penny?
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/10/24/forrestal-navy-first-supercarrier-sold-for-1-penny/
Pushed from a ledge(?) and sold for a penny?
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/10/24/forrestal-navy-first-supercarrier-sold-for-1-penny/
Hey MD02,
Interesting considering you can make a pretty dollar from scrap metal...do you suppose this more favoritism as has been accused in the past what else has the recipient company been involved in or who is it associated with? DOJ is arguing right now that international treaty can trump the Constitution.
Interesting considering you can make a pretty dollar from scrap metal...do you suppose this more favoritism as has been accused in the past what else has the recipient company been involved in or who is it associated with? DOJ is arguing right now that international treaty can trump the Constitution.
No clue... We could just say: "trickle down economics."? The Navy is probably getting out of dealing with any potential hazmat issues. I believe I have read somewhere that even if they wanted to use the ship as an artificial reef they would have to gut the innards.Cyrellys wrote:Hey MD02,
Interesting considering you can make a pretty dollar from scrap metal...do you suppose this more favoritism as has been accused in the past what else has the recipient company been involved in or who is it associated with? DOJ is arguing right now that international treaty can trump the Constitution.
I Just felt it was noteworthy and illustrated that even Majestic things are returned to humility, eventually.
For some time I have been trying to rationalize a particular question regarding the enigma. That question, dipped in Majic oftentimes, cannot warrant a concise answer from those closest to the philosophers stone on most occasions. One can only logically assume that the intended answer needs more conceptualization beyond its initial premise. And so, I will think this out, in the public domain.
The question that I posed on this forum, embedded within two decades of Dan Smiths personal crusade for understanding, was simple. If the phenomenon be based in reality, especially regarding those which Majestic does clings to, “Who are 'They' to trust?” We have contingents of thought permeating discussions suggesting that droning them out of existence be a method of consideration. Nothing like a little 'man in the middle' attack? Can you imagine the disparity of options one of those individuals with the fingers of phenomenology is left with? Should they be an island unto the self or engage? Both sides are attributed with being takers without asking, and let us be honest, you can't study what you cannot observe. Right? Dr Jekyll(s) – or should I say, Howard, do try to go easy on those poor souls despite it being your bread an butter. I really don't believe drones will be dropping missiles decorated with poo-bears bearing teeth and claw anytime soon.
So here I sit, pondering about a great many things. The enigma has given them many names: Abductees, Contactees, Experiencers, Nephilim, by-products of mind control, and even possibly sanctioned foreign exchange students of the Cosmic-kind. For every one that speaks out about their experiences, how many more have chosen to remain silent in a state of awareness not only spread about the land of questionable Liberty, but elsewhere. I suspect all those above definitions do have some basis of truth attached to it depending on the perspective one might view it from. Is it odd that those individuals seem to be working to fix what is/was broken in Eden and are for the most part peacefully inclined? Most of the world knows that we must change as a society in so many ways. The trick is finding the change needed we can 'mostly' agree on before its too late without the smoking muskets so historically commonplace within our histories.
Some might think I am directly speaking out to certain groups of people here, I am not, but that may be the point. I do not feel my opinions hold any great weight in the overall scheme of thought surrounding this frustratingly odd wunderland. Perspective really is everything after all, isn’t it? I want to ask Majic to do me a favor if at all possible. Please double check the Desert Storm Syndrome DNA database, if it still exists, I have some cells there you can peek at or stop by for a 'little' punch-needle biopsy action. Of course, I am only suggesting this is dry humor, but you likely get the inference.
So, who do they trust? The more advanced or the more alike? How favorable would the light be cast on an individual if one alienates their own for something alien when the alike are just as alien!? What a quandary 'eh good readers?!
The question that I posed on this forum, embedded within two decades of Dan Smiths personal crusade for understanding, was simple. If the phenomenon be based in reality, especially regarding those which Majestic does clings to, “Who are 'They' to trust?” We have contingents of thought permeating discussions suggesting that droning them out of existence be a method of consideration. Nothing like a little 'man in the middle' attack? Can you imagine the disparity of options one of those individuals with the fingers of phenomenology is left with? Should they be an island unto the self or engage? Both sides are attributed with being takers without asking, and let us be honest, you can't study what you cannot observe. Right? Dr Jekyll(s) – or should I say, Howard, do try to go easy on those poor souls despite it being your bread an butter. I really don't believe drones will be dropping missiles decorated with poo-bears bearing teeth and claw anytime soon.
So here I sit, pondering about a great many things. The enigma has given them many names: Abductees, Contactees, Experiencers, Nephilim, by-products of mind control, and even possibly sanctioned foreign exchange students of the Cosmic-kind. For every one that speaks out about their experiences, how many more have chosen to remain silent in a state of awareness not only spread about the land of questionable Liberty, but elsewhere. I suspect all those above definitions do have some basis of truth attached to it depending on the perspective one might view it from. Is it odd that those individuals seem to be working to fix what is/was broken in Eden and are for the most part peacefully inclined? Most of the world knows that we must change as a society in so many ways. The trick is finding the change needed we can 'mostly' agree on before its too late without the smoking muskets so historically commonplace within our histories.
Some might think I am directly speaking out to certain groups of people here, I am not, but that may be the point. I do not feel my opinions hold any great weight in the overall scheme of thought surrounding this frustratingly odd wunderland. Perspective really is everything after all, isn’t it? I want to ask Majic to do me a favor if at all possible. Please double check the Desert Storm Syndrome DNA database, if it still exists, I have some cells there you can peek at or stop by for a 'little' punch-needle biopsy action. Of course, I am only suggesting this is dry humor, but you likely get the inference.
So, who do they trust? The more advanced or the more alike? How favorable would the light be cast on an individual if one alienates their own for something alien when the alike are just as alien!? What a quandary 'eh good readers?!
Darn good question MD.
Each party should be sending a speaker to post and answer.
I'll do my part for my group - The proverbial third option....
The Founders were well aware this is NOT A CLOSED SYSTEM! The term "man" is very encompassing. We can easily substitute "Being". Each endowed with NATURAL RIGHTS. These supercede all religion but not the Creative Source/God for they are the gifts of the Creative Source/God. Those who stand to support what the Founders built are supporting the Third Option. It is an option that seeks universal balance and a natural harmony. Each Being with in are equals to their peers. The shell is inconsequential.
This is what the Sword of the Soul stands guard over. This is what the West will rise to protect if tyranny falls upon us. Embrace of this option by the SYSTEM & the SYSTEM LORDS is being argued over as we ponder MD's question. What they choose will become their stamp of nature. And if they choose the Third Option, there will be a great deal of structure dismantling to be done to ensure the return of respect to ALL Being's natural rights.
Fear drives them. To choose the Third Option, they must step forward and leave their fear behind. Will they do so? An ancient bard waits for them in the Event Horizon - if they choose the Third, they won't walk alone.
Cyrellys
Each party should be sending a speaker to post and answer.
I'll do my part for my group - The proverbial third option....
The Founders were well aware this is NOT A CLOSED SYSTEM! The term "man" is very encompassing. We can easily substitute "Being". Each endowed with NATURAL RIGHTS. These supercede all religion but not the Creative Source/God for they are the gifts of the Creative Source/God. Those who stand to support what the Founders built are supporting the Third Option. It is an option that seeks universal balance and a natural harmony. Each Being with in are equals to their peers. The shell is inconsequential.
This is what the Sword of the Soul stands guard over. This is what the West will rise to protect if tyranny falls upon us. Embrace of this option by the SYSTEM & the SYSTEM LORDS is being argued over as we ponder MD's question. What they choose will become their stamp of nature. And if they choose the Third Option, there will be a great deal of structure dismantling to be done to ensure the return of respect to ALL Being's natural rights.
Fear drives them. To choose the Third Option, they must step forward and leave their fear behind. Will they do so? An ancient bard waits for them in the Event Horizon - if they choose the Third, they won't walk alone.
Cyrellys
"Vicious Dove"
If wood were able to weave through space
Would it twist with worm
Seeking only to slow way down
To find a bed beneath the ground
Along with those who burrowed frowns
Its roots within the holes it found.
Be certain then what's kept within
The holes with candle-sticks
Lights not the path that brings this pain
Against a sky in soulless shift.
Pride is such a painful thing
Until it comes to trumpet-time
When anchored down by silver twine
And watch you must the remnant-rise
From lowest lows in smile sublime.
If wood were able to weave through space
Would it twist with worm
Seeking only to slow way down
To find a bed beneath the ground
Along with those who burrowed frowns
Its roots within the holes it found.
Be certain then what's kept within
The holes with candle-sticks
Lights not the path that brings this pain
Against a sky in soulless shift.
Pride is such a painful thing
Until it comes to trumpet-time
When anchored down by silver twine
And watch you must the remnant-rise
From lowest lows in smile sublime.
Life truly is a curious thing sometimes....
This morning I entered the gas station to top off the tank. Upon reaching the counter I notice that the young lady working the counter had a 'manager' badge pinned to her issued sweatshirt. Before I began the transaction I had to ask her a question:
ME: " Please forgive me ahead of time, but I have to ask. Do you feel a bit upside down today?"
I was grinning as I noticed her managers badge was flipped upside down. This apparently was already a joke betwen her and the coworker stocking shelves as they both grinned.
She replies: "You know, since you are being rather whimsical, I am sure there is some quote from Alice in Wonderland that would be appropriate right now, but I can't think of one fast enough."
Me - laughing: "No need! I already have a few in mind, but your reply was even more appropriate!"
I was dwelling on many 111's today and curiously enough, a truck passes me near dinnertime. The plates read, "1Jason"? Had to chuckle a bit. Life can be so curious!
Update: 11/14/13
Youtube account was deleted.
View Scene: Start - 27 min Ends - 28min 30sec.
I have also secured a copy of the film for future uploads if consistency is broken.
This morning I entered the gas station to top off the tank. Upon reaching the counter I notice that the young lady working the counter had a 'manager' badge pinned to her issued sweatshirt. Before I began the transaction I had to ask her a question:
ME: " Please forgive me ahead of time, but I have to ask. Do you feel a bit upside down today?"
I was grinning as I noticed her managers badge was flipped upside down. This apparently was already a joke betwen her and the coworker stocking shelves as they both grinned.
She replies: "You know, since you are being rather whimsical, I am sure there is some quote from Alice in Wonderland that would be appropriate right now, but I can't think of one fast enough."
Me - laughing: "No need! I already have a few in mind, but your reply was even more appropriate!"
I was dwelling on many 111's today and curiously enough, a truck passes me near dinnertime. The plates read, "1Jason"? Had to chuckle a bit. Life can be so curious!
Update: 11/14/13
Youtube account was deleted.
View Scene: Start - 27 min Ends - 28min 30sec.
I have also secured a copy of the film for future uploads if consistency is broken.
You have to admire the power of innocence.
It's complicated....?
In my dream I dreamt anothers dream - struggling to understand the Aether and how it related to creation and 'trust'?
Trust - Or Dos Equis.
A Journey
How long does it generally take? Years? Lifetimes? I suppose it all depends on what exactly it is that you are looking for. Each one of us, intrinsically differentiated, peering out into the world trying to wrestle our dreams of prosperity away from the world. Take, take, take. Even minds, or rather consciousness, are a commodity these days, coveted by unscrupulous individuals, who remain insulated from Earthly reproach. It is a fair argument to claim that hyper intelligence quotients does not make one wise by default? Look around the world – is this IQ's revelation?
What about the revelation of, The Others?
So many decades have passed. Good soldiers have taken to grave their gifts of knowledge, that of Truth, of this worlds awakening and left us with the same graven images we have always known. Images, stamped on paper or coin with the faces of men, who claimed to lead by principle and feared not death. I wonder who is appointed our current ambassador, regarding the Others?
Was it a military appointment? Civilian? Have all communications been severed? Which leads me to also question the common practice of presidents having the privilege to appoint ambassadors to others nations - even those that may have aided him by generous donation, or rather a purchase of potential power and influence? Seems on the up and up, at least with lawyers? Impartiality should naturally be a primary trait of ambassadorships, idealistically.
Don't misconstrue my mental jousting here as judgments placed. I am only trying to rationalize, in mundane form why must these counter-intuitive behaviors persist, if we be such an Honorable and God fearing nation in regards to the Visitors. “In the know” apparently makes mice out of men – these days. How about, 'Knowing more In” as in knowing yourself and what should be right. People CAN handle the truth that the 1940-50's where incapable of.
The POTUS won't tell the public.
The Military won't tell the public.
The politicians won't tell the public.
And Maji – apparently are quite comfortable with disrepair their decisions are still causing, despite being 'well funded'. Why does each group persist in this manner?
Fear of world upheavals? Poor us, on the Bottom of the evolutionary scale?
Technology of the God-like to tinker with and I'm not FN sharing?
Fear in dissolving systems of governance, which they are a part of – self preservation?
Did the Visitors share a date of our own destruction and left the PTB holding a bag of stink in both hands? Why does Presidential Pardons/Executive Orders clearing all those associated with the programs sound so simple, after, the two houses a briefed as to how it will be a nation standing together approach.
Starry eyes? Guilty. I dream of a tomorrow unlike today. Heck, even if they end up being the boogy-man, which I can't know for sure, but doubt, even goodness can be found in the darkest of place.
How long does it generally take? Years? Lifetimes? I suppose it all depends on what exactly it is that you are looking for. Each one of us, intrinsically differentiated, peering out into the world trying to wrestle our dreams of prosperity away from the world. Take, take, take. Even minds, or rather consciousness, are a commodity these days, coveted by unscrupulous individuals, who remain insulated from Earthly reproach. It is a fair argument to claim that hyper intelligence quotients does not make one wise by default? Look around the world – is this IQ's revelation?
What about the revelation of, The Others?
So many decades have passed. Good soldiers have taken to grave their gifts of knowledge, that of Truth, of this worlds awakening and left us with the same graven images we have always known. Images, stamped on paper or coin with the faces of men, who claimed to lead by principle and feared not death. I wonder who is appointed our current ambassador, regarding the Others?
Was it a military appointment? Civilian? Have all communications been severed? Which leads me to also question the common practice of presidents having the privilege to appoint ambassadors to others nations - even those that may have aided him by generous donation, or rather a purchase of potential power and influence? Seems on the up and up, at least with lawyers? Impartiality should naturally be a primary trait of ambassadorships, idealistically.
Don't misconstrue my mental jousting here as judgments placed. I am only trying to rationalize, in mundane form why must these counter-intuitive behaviors persist, if we be such an Honorable and God fearing nation in regards to the Visitors. “In the know” apparently makes mice out of men – these days. How about, 'Knowing more In” as in knowing yourself and what should be right. People CAN handle the truth that the 1940-50's where incapable of.
The POTUS won't tell the public.
The Military won't tell the public.
The politicians won't tell the public.
And Maji – apparently are quite comfortable with disrepair their decisions are still causing, despite being 'well funded'. Why does each group persist in this manner?
Fear of world upheavals? Poor us, on the Bottom of the evolutionary scale?
Technology of the God-like to tinker with and I'm not FN sharing?
Fear in dissolving systems of governance, which they are a part of – self preservation?
Did the Visitors share a date of our own destruction and left the PTB holding a bag of stink in both hands? Why does Presidential Pardons/Executive Orders clearing all those associated with the programs sound so simple, after, the two houses a briefed as to how it will be a nation standing together approach.
Starry eyes? Guilty. I dream of a tomorrow unlike today. Heck, even if they end up being the boogy-man, which I can't know for sure, but doubt, even goodness can be found in the darkest of place.
Temple Spies Vs
The Parable of the Pharisee and the Tax Collector
Luke 18:9-17
9 To some who were confident of their own righteousness and looked down on everyone else, Jesus told this parable: 10 “Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. 11 The Pharisee stood by himself and prayed: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other people—robbers, evildoers, adulterers—or even like this tax collector. 12 I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.’
13 “But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, ‘God, have mercy on me, a sinner.’
14 “I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For all those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted.”
The Little Children and Jesus
15 People were also bringing babies to Jesus for him to place his hands on them. When the disciples saw this, they rebuked them. 16 But Jesus called the children to him and said, “Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of God belongs to such as these. 17 Truly I tell you, anyone who will not receive the kingdom of God like a little child will never enter it.”
I thank them all - for leading me to the Mustard Seeds. If only you could see them too.
The Parable of the Pharisee and the Tax Collector
Luke 18:9-17
9 To some who were confident of their own righteousness and looked down on everyone else, Jesus told this parable: 10 “Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. 11 The Pharisee stood by himself and prayed: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other people—robbers, evildoers, adulterers—or even like this tax collector. 12 I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.’
13 “But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, ‘God, have mercy on me, a sinner.’
14 “I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For all those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted.”
The Little Children and Jesus
15 People were also bringing babies to Jesus for him to place his hands on them. When the disciples saw this, they rebuked them. 16 But Jesus called the children to him and said, “Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of God belongs to such as these. 17 Truly I tell you, anyone who will not receive the kingdom of God like a little child will never enter it.”
I thank them all - for leading me to the Mustard Seeds. If only you could see them too.
The stars are blind my love
You will learn to crawl under oceans above
That force will fuel its hate
When it drains your soul it will flood the gate
Fear is a device
So quiet and precise
It’s not what i allow
Not in my world now
Deep beneath the light
A spark will now ignite
And you will see me now
This is my world now
They come to your dreams with allusion
They come to bring shape to your mind
You know how to stop the intrusion
We all have to fight for the line
This force is in love with you
It wants you safe
It wants you well
This force knows what you can do
And what you can make
With your tattered shell
Faith in your device
So quiet and precise
Just when, not how
You can feel it now
Deep beneath the light
A spark will now ignite
And you will see me now
This is our world now
They come to your dreams with allusion
They come to bring shape to your mind
You know how to stop the intrusion
We all have to fight for the line
[2x]
Everyone, hear the call to the firewall, to the firewall
Everyone has to fall at the firewall, at the firewall
[2x]
A mother. A father. A sister. A brother.
Firewall
By standing. Together. We'll make it. Forever.
Firewall
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logic_Gate_Matrices - Now blank.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communication_with_extraterrestrial_intelligence
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communication_with_extraterrestrial_intelligence
“SOCRATES: Perhaps we may be wrong; if so, you in your wisdom should convince us that we are mistaken in preferring justice to injustice.
THRASYMACHUS: And how am I to convince you, he said, if you are not already convinced by what I have just said; what more can I do for you? Would you have me put the proof bodily into your souls?”
― Plato, The Republic
From the heyday of the reason of Socrates, the focus became conscription of intellectualism. If they cannot be turned from their love of Justice and Natural Rights then their thinking shall be wholly different from the start...
"They seek the laws at Bologna, medicine at Salerno, philosophy at Paris, the black art at Toledo." [Medieval saying concerning leading centers of advanced learning]
Law = both civil and canon law.
C.H. Haskins says: Universities, like cathedrals and parliaments, are a product of the Middle Ages.
The term universitas (university) originally meaning a "totality" or "universitality", came, by the High Middle Ages, to denote a complete union or guild and was eventually reserved for an academic coporation or guild devoted to higher education. For some time the name for such an institution was studium generale (a general place of study) since it accepted students from all areas and gave degrees everywhere recognized.
A factor in the rise of universities was the current trend to corporate organization for the effective achievement of desired ends. Another was the existence of a respected universal Church, which could grant a "license to teach anywhere."
Consider this in the context of control and recognition of "sanctioned" thinking and authority today as transparency is non-existence and alternative information is shunned. Truth is a conspiracy or a figment of imagination:
"The continuing interest of the Church in education is exemplified by a decree of the III Lateran Council (1179): Lest the opportunity for learning and education be denied to any poor children due to the inadequate resources of their parents, let some sufficient benefice be set aside in each cathedral church to provide for a teacher who will instruct the clergy of that church and poor scholars gratis..." ~ High Tide of Medieval Culture, Medieval History and Civilization by Daniel D McGarry 1976, p 494-495.
The Founders so maligned by the globalist thinking today re-established open education/self-education and facilitated the creation of a third option based on the concepts of universal human exceptional-ism and natural rights.
In their world of thinking, the use national security state apparatus has been put to in order to separate truth from the people, to separate self-governance from the people, to enforce sanction and certification processes at the controlled/conscripted university level so that what is fed into governance is what is intended did not exist for them.
Three consequences for the People from this aspect of the corruption: homeschooling is a threat, the veneration of the Founders and Constitution is a threat, and those who venerate Justice and Truth is a threat.
The depth of the alteration is barely recognized.
Cyrellys
I am not a wild eye'd crazy person, but necessity dictates the system sees me as such.
"They seek the laws at Bologna, medicine at Salerno, philosophy at Paris, the black art at Toledo." [Medieval saying concerning leading centers of advanced learning]
Law = both civil and canon law.
C.H. Haskins says: Universities, like cathedrals and parliaments, are a product of the Middle Ages.
The term universitas (university) originally meaning a "totality" or "universitality", came, by the High Middle Ages, to denote a complete union or guild and was eventually reserved for an academic coporation or guild devoted to higher education. For some time the name for such an institution was studium generale (a general place of study) since it accepted students from all areas and gave degrees everywhere recognized.
A factor in the rise of universities was the current trend to corporate organization for the effective achievement of desired ends. Another was the existence of a respected universal Church, which could grant a "license to teach anywhere."
Consider this in the context of control and recognition of "sanctioned" thinking and authority today as transparency is non-existence and alternative information is shunned. Truth is a conspiracy or a figment of imagination:
"The continuing interest of the Church in education is exemplified by a decree of the III Lateran Council (1179): Lest the opportunity for learning and education be denied to any poor children due to the inadequate resources of their parents, let some sufficient benefice be set aside in each cathedral church to provide for a teacher who will instruct the clergy of that church and poor scholars gratis..." ~ High Tide of Medieval Culture, Medieval History and Civilization by Daniel D McGarry 1976, p 494-495.
The Founders so maligned by the globalist thinking today re-established open education/self-education and facilitated the creation of a third option based on the concepts of universal human exceptional-ism and natural rights.
In their world of thinking, the use national security state apparatus has been put to in order to separate truth from the people, to separate self-governance from the people, to enforce sanction and certification processes at the controlled/conscripted university level so that what is fed into governance is what is intended did not exist for them.
Three consequences for the People from this aspect of the corruption: homeschooling is a threat, the veneration of the Founders and Constitution is a threat, and those who venerate Justice and Truth is a threat.
The depth of the alteration is barely recognized.
Cyrellys
I am not a wild eye'd crazy person, but necessity dictates the system sees me as such.
On to trust.
Trust you say? Yes, that was the question I raised also. Trust within this enigma does walk on rather short legs, does it not? You do not find trust – the bridge building type – within actions unbecoming directed at it. Don't take this the wrong way, but even those trying to find the trustworthy via digital voyeurism bears its stains, unresolvable? Those impressions are hard to erase - just as anyone witnessing a Jersey Devil peering through their window late at night where there once stood a man. It's not easy to forget, especially if you once said a prayer for it, a windy night long ago for its safety.
Yet, this all leads right back to a group, Majical Stones if you will, that play with the idea of trust and how it relates to time or the perfect moment to speak out as if they would know when that time actually arrived. Surely it can be said, they are not all inherently Evil men, but it is quite easy to say they are fearful of a great many things. How many of them have a yay/nay in the matter related to Disclosure? How many can be moved?
Endowments of large intellects associated with the enigma have lead certain individuals to great places and for noble causes no doubt, only to realize that intellect no longer intersects with what many would call a soul. They have allowed themselves to become hard and unkind while participating the revolution of a world awakening from a perpetual slumber. The Stones give us gadgets to numb our minds from underground lairs while above, the Earth rots beneath our feet without the spiritual maturity to find the balance required because it is hidden from those that need it most; those doing the damage. Revelation Matters! Spiritual Crossroads Are Significant! Education is Essential!
Plato opines: “"We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light."
Truth, knowledge, wisdom, and experience are all forms of illumination that Plato was probably hinting towards. It is such 'processes' by which must occur to 'become' something entirely different than what we are today in our mindsets. It is impossible for anyone to just 'arrive' at that spot of realization. Generally we all must 'evolve' towards, into, and through that process. It has been suggested that our thoughts create our reality. This is likely true. What information is put in will likely manifest outwardly into the world around us. Look around – then, Look within.
Dan, no offense, but you/some of your friends look for connection to the Logos while being the most disconnected from it. They hide, feigning truth with untruths while seeking connections to its greater meanings. Is there disconnect with this methodology of hiding truth, while seeking it? You will never find that connection until the world knows 'the reality'. Is that the curse of intellectualism, to know through dissertation and memorization, yet so unable to know without knowing?
Peering back in time to the point of the coverup, gripped by fear and uncertainty leads me to this point:
Where would we be today – now fifty years removed from the initial revelation of the visitors – if society had an opportunity to muddle through the initial shock? Could we have altered who we are, how we think, and behave? Are destiny's set are can they be altered if 'given enough information' to alter course?! Surely if the Visitors saw our fate wrapped in planetary overpopulation they also believe 'education does matter' because they felt it pertinent to implore us in that direction by educating the powers. Even 'they' believe education matters, apparently. Is this wisdom so hard to hear? Instead of educating 'the' world as to this deficient nature of behavior - they chose the technology route instead and a wall of silence. Counter intuitive!? Did we just waste fifty years to fear? Is it a fear, warranted?
The dream
Everyone will eventually know the minds of others like their own and 'trust' will become a word long forgotten because deception will be impossible to create.
Imagine for a moment – this reality, or pretend its true momentarily.
Two young individuals in red jumpsuits a bit different from us on a ship (of your choice) being taught a child’s game from Terra-firma. After you explain the rules to 'rock, paper, scissors' you watch in dismay as those two continually lay the same hand down repeatedly. So, just to be sure they understood the instructions, you explain again the goal is to lay an opposite hand to win, only to watch as they lay the same hand out repeatedly. Apparently they don't get it, or do they?
Initially, one would have to assume they do not understand unless one came to the conclusion quite later that they know each others minds. They cannot beat each other because they cannot cheat each other. Separated by distance and with their backs turned, they still lay the same hand out. One has to laugh at this being played out considering they are to be the more enlightened ones, technologically speaking, of course. Why would it be so hard from them to win at a child’s game? Perhaps, because they were never taught deception or that it is impossible not to know the connections intent?
Trust you say? Yes, that was the question I raised also. Trust within this enigma does walk on rather short legs, does it not? You do not find trust – the bridge building type – within actions unbecoming directed at it. Don't take this the wrong way, but even those trying to find the trustworthy via digital voyeurism bears its stains, unresolvable? Those impressions are hard to erase - just as anyone witnessing a Jersey Devil peering through their window late at night where there once stood a man. It's not easy to forget, especially if you once said a prayer for it, a windy night long ago for its safety.
Yet, this all leads right back to a group, Majical Stones if you will, that play with the idea of trust and how it relates to time or the perfect moment to speak out as if they would know when that time actually arrived. Surely it can be said, they are not all inherently Evil men, but it is quite easy to say they are fearful of a great many things. How many of them have a yay/nay in the matter related to Disclosure? How many can be moved?
Endowments of large intellects associated with the enigma have lead certain individuals to great places and for noble causes no doubt, only to realize that intellect no longer intersects with what many would call a soul. They have allowed themselves to become hard and unkind while participating the revolution of a world awakening from a perpetual slumber. The Stones give us gadgets to numb our minds from underground lairs while above, the Earth rots beneath our feet without the spiritual maturity to find the balance required because it is hidden from those that need it most; those doing the damage. Revelation Matters! Spiritual Crossroads Are Significant! Education is Essential!
Plato opines: “"We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light."
Truth, knowledge, wisdom, and experience are all forms of illumination that Plato was probably hinting towards. It is such 'processes' by which must occur to 'become' something entirely different than what we are today in our mindsets. It is impossible for anyone to just 'arrive' at that spot of realization. Generally we all must 'evolve' towards, into, and through that process. It has been suggested that our thoughts create our reality. This is likely true. What information is put in will likely manifest outwardly into the world around us. Look around – then, Look within.
Dan, no offense, but you/some of your friends look for connection to the Logos while being the most disconnected from it. They hide, feigning truth with untruths while seeking connections to its greater meanings. Is there disconnect with this methodology of hiding truth, while seeking it? You will never find that connection until the world knows 'the reality'. Is that the curse of intellectualism, to know through dissertation and memorization, yet so unable to know without knowing?
Peering back in time to the point of the coverup, gripped by fear and uncertainty leads me to this point:
Where would we be today – now fifty years removed from the initial revelation of the visitors – if society had an opportunity to muddle through the initial shock? Could we have altered who we are, how we think, and behave? Are destiny's set are can they be altered if 'given enough information' to alter course?! Surely if the Visitors saw our fate wrapped in planetary overpopulation they also believe 'education does matter' because they felt it pertinent to implore us in that direction by educating the powers. Even 'they' believe education matters, apparently. Is this wisdom so hard to hear? Instead of educating 'the' world as to this deficient nature of behavior - they chose the technology route instead and a wall of silence. Counter intuitive!? Did we just waste fifty years to fear? Is it a fear, warranted?
The dream
Everyone will eventually know the minds of others like their own and 'trust' will become a word long forgotten because deception will be impossible to create.
Imagine for a moment – this reality, or pretend its true momentarily.
Two young individuals in red jumpsuits a bit different from us on a ship (of your choice) being taught a child’s game from Terra-firma. After you explain the rules to 'rock, paper, scissors' you watch in dismay as those two continually lay the same hand down repeatedly. So, just to be sure they understood the instructions, you explain again the goal is to lay an opposite hand to win, only to watch as they lay the same hand out repeatedly. Apparently they don't get it, or do they?
Initially, one would have to assume they do not understand unless one came to the conclusion quite later that they know each others minds. They cannot beat each other because they cannot cheat each other. Separated by distance and with their backs turned, they still lay the same hand out. One has to laugh at this being played out considering they are to be the more enlightened ones, technologically speaking, of course. Why would it be so hard from them to win at a child’s game? Perhaps, because they were never taught deception or that it is impossible not to know the connections intent?
Cease and Desist.
Simple Request.
Ackowledgement APPRECIATED.
So, Continuing along the lines of trust...... I will ponder some more....
Simple Request.
Ackowledgement APPRECIATED.
So, Continuing along the lines of trust...... I will ponder some more....
December 7th is slowly approaching, that some remember as the day of infamy.
Bond with those mystical Gifts of Light and pay homage at your local veterans memorial.
http://sacredscribesangelnumbers.blogspot.ro/2011/06/angel-number-7.html
Bond with those mystical Gifts of Light and pay homage at your local veterans memorial.
http://sacredscribesangelnumbers.blogspot.ro/2011/06/angel-number-7.html
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