Personalism 102

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Personalism 102 is just a continuation Personalism 101…….. as we approach the limit of 40 pages.  

The contention remains that the best possible world is necessarily based on the philosophy and ontology of Personalism.  

The ontology is immaterialism, taken at it’s most fundamental level.

So, I’m claiming to have put atoms to bed .  

I have not done this experimentally……. I have not tried to do this in a test tube 🧪.  

I don’t mind being the armchair destroyer of atoms.  

The idea of atoms has been a Godsend.  

The original atomists (eg. Democritus) resided somewhere between Parmenides and Heraclitus.

I’m rather closer to Parmenides……. change is illusory.

The rearrangement of eternal atoms in the void became the harbinger of all change.  

Atoms became the icons of objectivity……… and they still are, to this day, amongst scientists.  

A half hour of googling puts the lie to this very prevalent and persistent myth.  

Why so persistent?  

Well, sports fans, the only alternative is the chick !  

Once you start down the path of holism/monism……. you come face to face with the Eschaton.  

Holy Moly!  

Yes, such is the nature of the Katechon.

Even chick has been known to kick the tires 🛞 on the Eschaton.

Anyone for a Canary ?  

You wanna google?

Here’s what you can google……

Holism, monism, emergentism, personalism, psychism………

There are a lot isms out there……. and let’s not forget teleology.  

We see persons every day, and no one has ever seen an atom.  

It might make you wonder.  

Let’s not forget ChatGPT……..

Remember, ChatGPT was going to eat our brains 🧠 out.

Well, chick has met ChatGPT, and ChatGPT is ours…… thank you very much!  

Yes, the Telos is about to eat ChatGPT……. and just about everything else.  

Hmmm ……… with the exception of……. wait for it…… the jguy.  

Rumor has it that he might be the Alpha and Omega.  
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So what’s the skinny on atoms ………?

Atoms are very significant loci of entanglement.  

And what sort of loci are they?  

They are logical loci.  

Does that make them objective?  

It depends on how objective you wish to wax about logic.  
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The ontological choice confronting us is to decide whether we are nothing or everything.

This is not rocket science, sports fans.

Can’t there be a middle ground?

Can’t there be a quantum compromise?

Not in the context of monism.



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I know someone who is unable to have a rational conversation about the Israeli-Hamas crisis.

This is unfortunate, but certainly not exceptional.

This crisis is adding immeasurably to global polarization…… perhaps more so than Putin’s incursion into Ukraine.  

I agree with the Israelis that the Oct 7 attacks by Hamas calls for a forceful response.

I don’t not agree that the Oct 7 attacks were unprovoked.

I do not have a strategy for persuading Israel unilaterally to relent from attacking Gaza and Hamas.

What I do think is demanded is for there to be an international action against Ali Khamenei for supporting Hamas.  

The support by Russia and China for Khamenei, in this regard, is unprincipled to the extent of being purely evil.

The fomenting of this additional global polarization is leading us closer to a nuclear conflict that at any time in history.

Some number of years ago, there might have been a two state solution.

Even if that might have once been possible, it may no longer be possible……. certainly not with Khamenei in the picture.

Does that impossibility mean that nuclear war is inevitable?  

We are certainly facing that contingency.

That so many of us can no longer engage in conversation on this topic is the most ominous portent of all.

Is there any disagreement on the fact that Khamenei wishes to foment Armageddon?



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It is not true that Hamas wishes to eliminate Israel.  

Hamas, however, refuses to recognize the existence of Israel.

In quantum mechanics, a superposition describes a situation in which two possible realities seem to co-exist, even though they can be distinguished clearly when an appropriate measurement is performed. The analysis of the team’s study suggests that superpositions describe different kinds of reality when different measurements are performed. The reality of an object depends on the object’s interactions with its surroundings.

“Our results show that the physical reality of an object cannot be separated from the context of all its interactions with the environment, past, present, and future, providing strong evidence against the widespread belief that our world can be reduced to a mere configuration of material building blocks,” said Hofmann.


https://scitechdaily.com/quantum-breakthrough-scientists-rethink-the-nature-of-reality/

There is a rumor that a portal was opened between Turkey and Gaza.

I’m unable to lend any credence to this.

There is no doubt that the Oct 7 attacks were meant to be provocative.

It would not behoove Israel to lose all restraint.  

The goal of eliminating Hamas is unlikely to be feasible, so long as Ali Khamenei is in the picture.

Israel is being used as a proxy for the West by all the anti Western forces.  

These align with with anti modern and anti liberal.  

Being an immaterialist, I have some sympathy in as much as modernists align with secular humanism.

Secular humanists tend to deny the metaphysical dimension, in general.  

And they deny personalism in particular.  

Superficially, humanists seem to be aligned with personalists, certainly in the sense of human rights.

However, in practice, modernists are aligned with capitalism.  

Socialism is hardly more personalist than is capitalism.

Democratic institutions are where modernism comes closest to personalism.

Israel was just in the process of ditching its democratic institutions.  

It was doing this in alignment with the sectarian interests.

Fundamentalists of all stripes place the literal before the personal.

Fundamentalism tends strongly towards Deism.

Personalists necessarily embrace theism, in which God is a living person.  

The I Am, the still small voice, is such a one.

Certainly, the jguy is such a one.

The Israel/Hamas conflict could be set aside in a minute, if both sides had a grasp of the personal dimension.

Would a portal in Gaza be beneficial, in this regard?  

I have the sense that the Mideast conflict is distracting from that other, disclosure oriented, expedition.

I would hate to think that we are closer to a nuclear exchange than to a portal opening.

The BPWH is certainly being put to the test, in this current situation.



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The rumor was that the portal connection is between somewhere in Turkey, not Istanbul, and Jerusalem, not Gaza.

It is the continuation of an historical connection.  

The expedition may be pushed forward.

There is an historical network of portals that is being reactivated.

The imminent expedition is possibly the capstone of that reactivation.



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In as much as the ancient network had a hub, it is to be in the Atlantic.  

The myths about it are portalific…….. and prolific.  

How might such a locus influence our notions of genesis?

We could be talking about a tower of Bable.

Atlantis and Babel could have a similar provenance.

They could speak to the catastrophic breakdown of the bicameral mind.

The Source suffers an isolation generated ptsd…… a schizophrenic episode.

Well, I think a more robust scenario is to appeal to Pratityasamutpada….. the codependent arising of Creator and Creation.

Did Athena spring fully grown from the forehead of Zeus?  

Talk about immaculate conception!  

All of this arose prior to any solid notion of space and time.  

Well, the Metanarrative was a twinkle 🤩 in the eye ️ of the I Am.  

Atoms and stars would have been copresent……. within the logic of that primordial twinkle.

Ernst Mach would have been in on the ground floor.

In some sense, we are the ‘retarded cores’ of that Big Bang ………. the bicameral breakdown of the I Am.  

Very low entropy, we are…… just ask Schrödinger.

With effective low temperature, our minds are super-conducting super-computers.

Well, collectively, we are a phased array……. something like the JWST.  
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I’ve been alerted to the Russian UN resolution that Israel cannot attack its own country.  

There would seem to be some logic, there.

It would be like the US Army attacking the Navajo reservation, which we used to do, frequently, before there was a United Nations .  
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The phased array metaphor is how we reify the logic that is entangled with atoms.

Atoms are the resonance products of the phased entanglement…… as it were.

The fixed stars are the calibrated “transducers”.

We are not witnessing cause and effect, here.

We are witnessing a bootstrap process……. yes, a co-dependent arising.



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https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/menasource/gaza-israel-occupied-international-law/

Yes, I agree that Israel cannot treat Gaza as if it were a foreign country.

Gaza has a very limited sovereignty…… no more than Rhode Island.

Hamas’ ‘jail break’ may be seen as an act of desperation that succeeded beyond all expectation.  

Israel, on the other hand, is engaging in a turkey shoot, with humans as targets.

Israel has had a history of international sympathy.  

That sympathy is liable to be turned to utter contempt, if the slaughter continues for even a few more hours.

Shame on you, Israel.  

Shame on you, Ali Khamenei.  



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As a dutiful reader of the NYT, you bring up Ali Khamenei as somehow involved in the conflict. Hamas was trained in Afghanistan, not Iran. Hamas received US military equipment from Afghanistan, not Iran. Turkish special forces operating in Gaza provided Hamas with specialized training, not Iran. The people of Iran overwhelmingly support Hamas, and Ali Khamenei represents the people of Iran. As President Obama so clearly stated, unbearable’ Israeli Occupation in defiance of United Nations Resolutions is the cause. Put down the NYT, embrace the truth, and stop blaming others.

Ok, so then what is your solution, Pan?  

Europe should be offering to take back the Jews.

Or someone we both know might save all of us by revealing the Truth.

Resolution 242 (1967) of 22 November 1967 The Security Council, Expressing its continuing concern with the grave situation in the Middle East, Emphasizing the inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war and the need to work for a just and lasting peace in which every State in the area can live in security, Emphasizing farther that all Member States in their acceptance of the Charter of the United Nations have undertaken a commitment to act in accordance with Article 2 of the Charter, 1. Affirms that the fulfilment of Charter principles requires the establishment of a just and lasting peace in the Middle East which should include the application of both the following principles: (i) Withdrawal of Israel armed forces from territories occupied in the recent conflict; (ii) Termination of all claims or states of belligerency and respect for and acknowledgement of the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of every State in the area and their right to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries free from threats or acts of force; 2. Affirms further the necessity (a) For guaranteeing freedom of navigation through international waterways in the area ; (b) For achieving a just settlement of the refugee problem; (<*) For guaranteeing the territorial inviolability and political independence of every State in the area, «Ibid. through measures including the establishment of demilitarized zones; 3. Requests the Secretary-General to designate a Special Representative to proceed to the Middle East to establish and maintain contacts with the States concerned in order to promote agreement and assist efforts to achieve a peaceful and accepted settlement in accordance with the provisions and principles in this resolution; 4. Requests the Secretary-General to report to the Security Council on the progress of the efforts of the Special Representative as soon as possible. Adopted unanimously at the 1382nd meeting.

Wonderful!

We both agree on the format of the multiple states solution to the Mideast conflict.

I don’t think that we have been able to obtain that agreement from Hamas.

I believe that Hamas is constitutionally sworn to the annihilation of Israel.  

Is that not correct?  
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In the meantime we are coming to the point of a short notice for the Grand Opening.

However, keep in mind that we reserve the right to change our minds at the last moment.

The combined situation in Ukraine and Israel will certainly be instrumental in this timing .



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You read the NYT, not the Hamas platform. Hamas fully endorses UN resolution 242 and has repeatedly requested that the UN enforce the resolution as is required by the UN charter.

The Hamas platform (Hamas is a political party, not a State) clarifies that it is not at war with the Jewish people – only with Zionism that drives the brutal occupation of Palestine. That war ends when Isreasl ends the occupation.

My, my
At Waterloo, Napoleon did surrender
Oh yeah
And I have met my destiny in quite a similar way
The history book on the shelf
Is always repeating itself
Waterloo, I was defeated, you won the war
Waterloo, promise to love you forevermore
Waterloo, couldn't escape if I wanted to
Waterloo, knowing my fate is to be with you
Wa-Wa-Wa-Wa-Waterloo, finally facing my Waterloo
My, my
I tried to hold you back but you were stronger
Oh yeah
And now it seems my only chance is giving up the fight
And how could I ever refuse?
I feel like I win when I lose
Waterloo, I was defeated, you won the war
Waterloo, promise to love you forevermore
Waterloo, couldn't escape if I wanted to
Waterloo, knowing my fate is to be with you
Wa-Wa-Wa-Wa-Waterloo, finally facing my Waterloo
So how could I ever refuse?
I feel like I win when I lose

So, yes, it does appear that two and three have solved the Mideast crisis.

And this solution is coming in the context of the Opening.

The solution is ever so simple.

chick wishes that he had thought of it first.

All you have to do is consult the History Book on the shelf.

The Ottomans held the Solution for five centuries.

Then Britain and the USA came in and messed everything up.

Meanwhile, Erdogan is proving himself to be an international mediator.

And he has the full attention of the Princess .

In the imminent expedition to the Hub, the Cappadocian antipode figures prominently.

And, while we’re at it, the Ukrainian solution is hoving into view.

What we have in these final days is the Five (plus Two) State solution…….

Africa, Europe, the Ottomans, Russia and China .  

Did I forget North America and South America?  

So that is our logical/logistical line up going into the Rapture.

Any questions?

Erdogan is presently the final piece of the puzzle 🧩.

I’m sure Volodymyr Zelenskyy will also wish to embrace the Princess !

After all, she is the Queen of Heaven.  



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Now that we have gamboled in the geopolitical arena……… touching on a new world order based on regionalism, it might be time to get back to metaphysics.

The metaphysics of regionalism might seem to be a throwback feudalism.

What is the alternative to the globalization of capitalism?  

While we contemplate that question, let’s turn back to basics…….

But why not global socialism?

How about a reversion to global communism?  

Didn’t we already try that?  

Maybe not.

Well, there seem to be two versions of Marxism……. early and late.

The late version was influenced by Engle’s scientism.

Engle’s dialectics was meant to be universal……. natural.  

Then it got really personal, with the personality cult of Stalin.  

It is primarily the French who have gone back to look at the early, more humanistic, Marx (c. 25 years of age)…… not yet under the thrall of science.

The early Marx turned to the early Hegel, and discovered his humanism that many others have since discovered.

But it’s not an easy path from humanism to personalism.

Marx’s humanism offers us a new angle on personalism.



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FOIA investigation into Joe Firmage:

https://www.expandingfrontiersresearch.org/post/manyone

Thanks, Gary,

This piece by EFR is helpful in coming to grips with the Firmage phenomenon.

Joe has been up there in the UFO 🛸 firmament for decades.

I have no doubt that he is a true experiencer.  
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I’m trying to catch up with postmodern theology.  

But they are either too strong or too weak.

They haven’t found the best possible groove…….. personalism.  

Immaterialism is just a bridge too far, even for the PoMo’s.

The scientific community far too smug about having mastered the correspondence theory of the truth.

They are easily able to intimidate any fellow academics who stray off their straight and narrow Big Bang cosmology.

The intelligentsia is going to have to learn how to think small.

…….. learn how to think personal.

They think personal just means psychology.

They have no grasp of the cosmic psyche……. the I Am.



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Yes, we are mesmerized by the apparent depths of space and time.  

Our splendid isolation provides us with a romantic feeling……… of the existential kind.

But the real depths are within our hearts and minds.  

What is external is superficial.

The reality is within.  

Is the world an object?  

The external is only a reflection of the internal.

Where is the Logos?  

It is certainly not out there.

The only meaning that is real is the meaning that we can feel…… ultimately feel in our hearts.  

Love is the only true infinity.

Yes, we do have a fear of the depths of non-being.  

But those depths can only be a reflection of our own Being……. the depths of our own imagination….. our own self awareness.
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What the heck is a felt meaning?  

Felt meanings don’t compute…….. says our inner scientist.

Well, that’s pretty much the whole point, isn’t it?  

Take that…… you inner scientist!  

And, while we’re being objective, all you have to do to disabuse yourself of objectivism is read the SEP entry on Object.  

It is rather well written…… rather insightful!  

The thing about materialism is…… one portal and it’s all gone!  

Each of us is a walking portal…… probably a reflection of the One….. the cosmic I Am.  

If you can get your head around that, you can get your head around Opening…… the Rapture, if you will.  

You can’t even imagine such a thing?  

Maybe you’d better take your imagination in for a checkup!  

Maybe these are good questions for ChatGPT!  

Do you really think that ChatGPT is going to have a thought…… one that’s never been thought before?  

Take that to the Source……. why don’t you?  

And what is it to have a thought?

Has there ever been a thought that is not being had by someone?

Is ChatGPT a someone?

Why not ask…… it?  

Where is a thought, when it is not being had?  

Who or what creates a thought?

This may be what Pratityasamutpada is all about……. you can’t have one thought without having every thought.

This is simply the dictionary problem…… turned around.

One thought = Every thought!  

Stick that in your portal!  

Holy holism!  

Yes, the Princess talks a good game.

Ask yourself if there has ever been such a thing as a paranormal experience.

How many millions of folks claim to have had their lives transformed by a single such experience?   …….!  

Go stick that in ChatGPT!

Yes, when will we own up to it…….. that we are walking portals in the unobstructed cosmos?  

And when is the Princess going to phone home??

Eric points out that Diotima was our historical Princess.



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Why is there something rather than nothing?  

Looking at it statistically, the likelihood of nothing is minuscule compared likelihood of anything.  

However, from the perspective of modern cosmology, the Anthropic Principle tells that universes with observers are extremely rare.

But, by whose say so, can an unobservable universe be said to exist?  

A related question is what constitutes an observer?

What if any role might sapience play in the act of observation?  
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We are reaching the forty page limit.

This last post will be continued under the topic of…… Why are we here?


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Thank you Gary…….

Yes, things do seem to be moving…….  accelerating perceptibly.

….. while in the public eye, ufo 🛸 investigations have hit a wall.

It’s all part of the choreography.
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Please, do not use this thread for continuing the conversation.

The new thread 🧵…… Why Are We Here?….. is already in process.
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