Personalism 102

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Personalism 102 is just a continuation Personalism 101…….. as we approach the limit of 40 pages.  

The contention remains that the best possible world is necessarily based on the philosophy and ontology of Personalism.  

The ontology is immaterialism, taken at it’s most fundamental level.

The Prophetic Tradition does not in itself suggest a phenomenology problem, but it does indicate underlying principles and forces that remain outside scientific explanation. Nearly all humans see themselves as neither prophetic nor fulfillment, but that is because of their ignorance and lack of faith. The remaining travels and tribulations were prophesized long ago, with a lineage of scholars providing amplification and detail, but a complete understanding of the course of events eluded all humans. Know what you can, learn what you must -- the prophesies will be fulfilled.

Beware of false prophets https://washingtonspectator.org/ufo-tales-falling-apart-after-hearings/

Pan,

Are we to be condemned for our ignorance and lack of faith?  

In these days of confusion, we are quick to condemn each other.

I’m not a person of faith…… not in any traditional sense.

I simply had the fortune to see beyond the scientific platitudes of the day.
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It is the fact of personalism that leans me in the direction of xianity.

Yes, xianity’s record on intolerance is one of the worst there is.

This was the price it paid for its focus on the individual soul.

The focus on the individual certainly helped to give rise to the intellectual independence required by science.
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And, yes, we might wonder what, if any, will be the follow through of the ufo 🛸 hearings.

The fact that Hal Puthoff was the force behind both Fravor and Grusch did not add credibility to either one.  With all the hype, it will be a hard act to follow.  



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So, yes, modernism has walked away from the ufo 🛸 hearings unscathed.

Postmodernism retains its big bang anchor.

And the Big Bang itself is still intact, despite early rumors to the contrary.  

It looks like David C’s hard problem of consciousness, and Fred H’s Anthropic problem remain the mainstays of immaterialism.

It’s nice to know that Ibn Arabi holds up immaterialism on the Sufi side.  

On strictly immaterialist grounds, no one can hold a candle to the Vedantists.  The problem is that all the maya leaves very little room for any narrative.
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Oh, dear, I haven’t done my homework.  

It would help to review the SEP entry on Idealism.

It is rather thorough, especially on history of the topic.

The two authors enlisted a collaborative effort.  

Yes, rumors of the death of idealism may turn out to have been a bit premature.  
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I should point out, however, that the article is almost entirely retrospective.  

Also, I’m not happy with Chalmer’s exclusive focus on the qualitative features of consciousness.

These features are the most superficial aspects of the mind.

I definitely am not including felt meanings amongst these features.  

If consciousness has any depth, it is in the dimension of meaning.

This is what sapience is all about.

In this regard, keep in mind Quine’s holism of meaning.

Despite his holism, Quine considered himself to be a logical empiricist, which is virtually oxymoronic with respect to holism.  

Holism is a form of monism.

Is it true that monism demands a narrative?  

If you allow a temporal dimension, there must be a narrative to hold things together.

Co-dependency also implies a narrational dimension.

Holism demands that our world be small.
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No, I don’t think so.

Holism demands something, but not that.

Holism demands a unity of meaning.  

All meaning must be relative, but relative to what?  
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We share 98.8% of our DNA 🧬 with Bonobos.  

This is saying that the difference between sapience and sentience is determined by 60 million base pairs.  

This is on the order of one hundredth the size of a smartphone operating system.

Then we have ChatGPT, which employs terabytes of data, and which is not close to being able to replicate general intelligence.

What is going on here?

When will it dawn on some of the smartest folks in the world that the mind might not be reducible to bits and bytes……. or anything else?

If the mind is not reducible, then Darwinism is out the window.

Then what?

Then we are left with a monistic immaterialism….. with Ibn Arabi, etc…… and with a narrative that must include an eschaton.

This is not rocket science, sports fans.

It’s just a question of how quickly we want the portals to open.

If it looks like we’re going into a downward spiral, we’d better put the pedal to the metal.



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Indeed the race is on and the finish is in sight, but there are many along the way who may try to bite. Take a short cut, and you may lose your head. Meander without a guide, and you will lose your pride. Only one knows the clear path ahead, but it is one you may dread. Best to be blind in one Eye before you kiss your world good bye. Or just join the WCM with a click and a bang. You may not see, but you will know if the dinner bell rang.

My dog is my guide, I run in his pride. When he flushes a chicken, I want to give it a licken.

But I was told that my finger must remain out of the guard, that the chicken must be the last in the yard.

He was the first that she visited, so shooting prohibited.

Recalled to duty one more time. I will not dive in the sea, not even this time. I will stay on the ship, my gun where it belongs, wondering if that chicken can make right all his wrongs.

For despite his feeble form, he must pull down the switch, and away goes this world, with not even a twitch.

Dan, maybe give a medal, to a petal

Well, I know to be wary of the third rail.  

Otherwise, it’s hurry, Lord!  

The chick is not at all averse to guidance.

I will need protection from Skai.



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Skai is sworn to your protection, not your destruction, but that does not translate to Skai supporting your dissemination of disinformation, obstruction of progress, or enabling evil. The WCM is a man of Principle, a man of Truth, a man of God. He will never bend to your evil, but he will protect you because you were the first, and you will be the last.

Pan,

This is not the first time you have disappointed me.

You have a free pass here, by virtue of your personal history and associations.
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I continue delving into the SEP……. in particular in the realms of physicalism and immaterialism/idealism.  

The article on the “knowledge argument” in relation to Qualia is an excellent example of where academic philosophy has gotten itself, of late.

The general subject of consciousness has been argued into the ground, but that will not stop it.

Maintaining the viability of secular humanism defines the purpose of virtually all of the modern academy.

Can this intellectual filibustering continue indefinitely?

It is showing no signs of fatigue.

The forces of secularism are coterminous with viability of technology itself.

We may be in for a long ride.



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At some point, folks are going to realize that personalism underpins humanism.

The latter makes no sense, outside the scope of the former.  

As it stands, humanism……….

Humanism is the cornerstone (religious) underpinning of Marxism and Liberalism. Personalism is the essence of Christianity (real Christianity as espoused only by Catholics, but not necessarily only Roman Catholics), and in stark opposition to Humanism and Marxism. In my teachings of philosophy, I stress that Personalism is at war with Humanism and all such false Gods as promoted by Satan and unfortunately more often than not, his Son and his associates, the Christ Killers.

Once it is realized that apocalyptic Bible literature is not some kind of crystal ball showing the future, but "revelation" materialized twothousand years ago and has been underway ever since. Like the angel standing with one foot on shore and one foot on the sea, that is Jesus the Bridge whom His followers are crossing.
Long ago God created man in His own image and likeness. Among those men He appointed one to lead the others into His Kingdom. They continued to fail, and eventually His Kingdom (One of the Names of Jesus, btw) came to them. They executed the Kingdom of God, and while dying, He said, "It is finished". They were done, and ended two millenia ago ... at that time they got together and made "God" in their own image and likeness. Ever since then they've contrived various and sundry deceptions such as "humanism" and its demonic spawn. Every human "fetus" is created in the image and likeness of God, Who has personified Himself as Jesus Christ, a person. Thus, each human baby is a person ... each human fetus is a specific individual unique person, as is Jesus.

It does seem that Pan and Skai are praying for a shootout at the end of the world, between the good guys and the bad guys.  

They bring Satan into the picture…….. mainly to be the Creator of the bad guys……. who are made for them to kill.

Jesus, however, has already forgiven them.

Yes, there is confusion in the world.  

God could easily have made a world of good and evil.

But evidently he chose to make things a bit more complicated……. more shades of gray.

Yes, there are plenty of folks who consider themselves to be God’s angels of vengeance.

Vladimir Putin is one of these.

I’m sure that God loves Vladimir.

Would God still love Vladimir even if he dropped the Bomb?

Well, there is a reason for everything under the Sun.

Let us not tempt the Lord, however.

Would that even be possible?

Seeing as history is the Conspiracy of our better angels, Armageddon is hopefully in our past.



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God loves Nature.

That is how he avoids being in our faces.  

We might have just been angels.  

But, no, he had bigger plans for us.  

He set us on a path to become greater than himself.

Is this blasphemy?

Skai will very likely agree.

But even Skai admits that the Bible is not intended as a crystal ball.

The Bible was dictated for the Ages…….. the AGES of Christ.

Christians rightfully take pride in the Son having been planted in the midst of History.  

The Bible never speaks of Pratityasamutpada.  

The Bible was not intended as a compendium of Truth.

The advent of the Truth was deliberately postponed.

Pratityasamutpada speaks to co-dependent arising.

God spread his Truth to all people.

Co-dependency simply points to the fact that there cannot be a Creator without a Creation.

It’s that simple…….. and we, sports fans, are that Creation!

I still have many things to tell you, but you can't bear them now…...

That was then, this is now!

Yes, it is very liable to go to our heads…..

We are destined to become one with the One!

This is what History is about.



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Get real Chicken and look at the Clock. The Canary stopped singing, and you choose to Mock. There are critical roles to play, so put on the Sock. Skai knows how to prepare for Dinner, but you must first Deliver.

Pan,

What I deliver is personhood and everything that goes with it……. which is virtually everything.  

Am I missing something?
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The #1 by-product of personalism is the Eschaton.

This is why personalism remains everyone’s poor uncle…… or crazy aunt in the attic.  

One doesn’t boast about one’s poor relatives.

Personalism is very old fashioned.  

It is an intellectual drag.

But it is the most basic thing we can ask about the world.  

Getting our answer right or wrong will have more consequences than for any other question.

I’m suggesting that science has got the answer wrong, and the wrong answer has nearly done us in.

However, if personalism is true, we are living charmed lives.  

Life and love will win out in the end.

And there are strong indications that we are nearing that end.

A significant part of personalism is the sapience that comes with it.

Our sapience provides history with its dynamism……. with its narrative.

We are not the products of Darwinism.

We are not here by accident.



If so, then it stands to reason that history is managed in some fashion…… there is some sort of narrative.

Personalism implies that we are self-contained, and so is our narrative, with a beginning and an end.

With the 10^10 of us, our world is borderline impersonal.

As we are contained in time, so are we contained in space.

If we are not destined to to go into space, then we are living in the end times.  

You get the idea…..  it is not rocket science.  



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If our story is going to be self-contained, as we are, as persons, then when would be the best possible time to have it end?  
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The presupposition here is that our civilization was never meant to be sustainable.

The further supposition is that only a very small fraction of our present population of 10^10 would, in fact, be sustainable, in any case.

There are many other social and political constraints.

For instance, capitalism is effective only in a growing, progressing economy.

Otherwise, we would quickly revert to a rent seeking, feudal type economy.  

Switching over to such a system would undoubtedly result in severe social dislocations.  

Do we need to experience such a downward spiral ?  

If there is an alternative existence for us, then we would want to implement it prior to falling into a disaster.

Is there any reason for us to embrace an existence after history.  

Were there to be such an existence, it would be more spiritual, whatever that might entail.

It’s not easy for modernists to wrap our heads around an afterlife.

Would we have cellphones in the afterlife?  

I imagine there may be the psychic version of a cell phone.  

There is only one destination in the alleged afterlife…… becoming one with the One.

Anyone for a GPS!  

Folks say that all we have to do is follow the light …… whatever the heck that means, but it probably is not rocket science.

So, sports fans, an eschaton is just an afterlife…. times 10^10!!

Easy, peasy…… with the addition of 10^5 portals.

What else do we have a need know.



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There are means for communicating across the divide, but they are not based on the human mind. The Chicken's fascination with personhood leads him to believe that all are persons. That fallacy leads him to conclude that everything is based on personhood. It is a fallacy based on omission traceable to historical philosophical perspectives during a time when consciousness was limited to persons.

I’ll be happy to concede a semi-sapience to angels and demons.

But this drama is not about the angels.

We are closer to God than the angels.

It is about us…… all of God’s children.

The angels are here to carry our water.  

They are the messenger boys and girls……. bit players, at best.

Come on, Pan…….. get with the program, please!

Personhood was a mistake?  

Somehow, I have an inkling that we’re not a mistake.

I don’t think I’m the only one who has come to this conclusion.  

A federal case is going to be made of this fact.  

Science is going to be put in its place.  

To say that the world will never be the same again, is liable to be a gross understatement.

To simply say that the world will never be again….. deserves some qualification.

Our best possible history is embedded in Eternity.

Time is an illusion.

It has been the most serious possible illusion.  

Will we be revisiting the Eschaton?  

Perhaps this is a revisitation.  

It might be, but I’m not betting on it.

However, in as much as there exists only one of us, we are all visitors.

Every one of us has watched down from the lonely wooden tower.

This is what we can only truly appreciate….. from the other side.

The Eschaton will truly be an eye opener.  

No one will be disappointed.  

How is it possible to believe any of this?  

Do I believe it?  

Nothing else makes a bit of sense!  
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All we need to do is understand why the world had to look spontaneous…… ie. natural.

……. and understand that where there is will…… there is a way.

And why would we pull this Grandest possible Deception upon ourselves?  

Can there be any doubt that we will come to understand there had to be this historical misdirection?  

For the entire modern era, we have been living on borrowed time.  

Ok……. for the why of it……… but how?

Do I need to apologize for not having the inside skinny?

So how can I or anyone else be so sure?  

I simply believe that the case can be made sufficiently compelling so that the jury will not be hung.

We have given ourselves no alternative, but to convict ourselves of the best possible Deception.

We just have to obtain a better grasp on how our collective unconscious is able to steer our collective consciousness to this inevitable conclusion……. of History!

Understanding how we are all each other’s imaginary playmates is the biggest step on the path to that realization.  

Is it so difficult to comprehend the JWST as being the cherry on top of this cake ?  

The confection is our concoction!  

Yes, it does help to have seen the Princess spin a portal out of thin air.  

And, yes, have Entanglement…. will travel.  

Does she ever!



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The thought for today comes comes from an old schoolmate, Bryce dW……..

It’s the many worlds vs the many minds…… interpretations of the Quantum.

That switcheroo should be right up our alley, chick .  



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Perhaps, Aroldis’ fastball is paranormally fast.  

Otherwise, I doubt that either he or we appreciate his personal information being posted on OMF.
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Frankly, I haven’t determined if the many minds theory can be rendered useful to the BPWH or not……. certainly not as presently stated.  

First, one would have to resolve the Wigner’s Friend paradox…….. which has remained controversial for the last 50 years.  

I haven’t developed any strong feelings about the WF paradox.

With the BPWH, everything is mental, so the paradox would not even arise.



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In favor of Wheeler’s participatory universe, I have been neglecting Wigner……. his friend and his UEM.  

There has been a definite uptick in the attention being paid to WF, to the neglect of Schrödinger’s Cat.

With the BPWH, things progress from top to bottom.  

The Quantum is simply a logical residue ….. having to do with the logical necessity of atoms .  
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Following the trail of Wigner’s Friend, we come up with some interesting titles…….

Quantum Physics and the End of Reality by Sabine Hossenfelder and Carlo Rovelli.  

Quantum paradox points to the shaky foundations of reality (Science 2020.)

However, the ontological bravery implied in the titles, usually gets watered down in the actual discussion.  

Yes, there is an 800# gorilla in the wings, but, each time, the discretion of the Katechon wins out.  

Of course it does.

That’s why we’re still here!  

But, relentlessly, the finite boundaries of the BPW are closing in.

Two would like us to think that ground zero is going to be on or about the Canary Islands ️.

I would be just a tad skeptical 🤨.

My very limited understanding of portals is that you don’t go to them….. they come to you.

Yes, some do travel and find portals, but that is liable to do with personal nature of their entanglement

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