Personalism 102

This is a topic reminder post……

Personalism 102 is just a continuation Personalism 101…….. as we approach the limit of 40 pages.  

The contention remains that the best possible world is necessarily based on the philosophy and ontology of Personalism.  

The ontology is immaterialism, taken at it’s most fundamental level.

Others are trying to transcend materialism, but the small world hypothesis is just a step too far.

1455zulu/gmt……..

Every aspect of the best possible world is premised upon the imminent occurrence of a paradigm shift from materialism to immaterialism.

No previous such ‘shift’ would be comparable.

The radical nature of the envisioned ‘shift’ might better be characterized as a gestalt switch…… wherein the whole world is turned inside out and upside down.  

We become the denizens of a cosmic dream world.  

Short of such a radical inversion, the BPW is a mere flight of fancy.  

Nonetheless, I’m convinced that an unbiased, fresh look at the world would place immaterialism as a lead contender among world views.  

Yes, scientific materialism has accumulated a daunting collection of factoids.  

Any other view would have to appeal to some cosmic conspiracy to obscure the Truth of our situation.  

This ‘grand deception’, and our resulting ‘great apostasy’ would have to have been programmed into the Creation, from its inception.

And why would any imagined Creator have deceived us so?

The contention of personalism is that Creation is by us, for us, and about us.  

Without this grand deception, the BPW would have been inconceivable.

A God of revelation would necessarily traffic in concealment.  

Why revelation?  

Why concealment?

What sort of game is this?  

It is simply hide and seek.  

This is the nature…… the crux…. of history…….

Now we see a reflection in a mirror; then we will see face-to-face. ... Now I know partly; then I will know fully…….

What else could the story have been?

We shall not cease from exploration
And the end of all our exploring
Will be to arrive where we started
And know the place for the first time.

Amen to that, brother.  

It’s just that simple.  

Knowing ourselves……. It would take all of the kings men and all of the king’s horses……. all of history.  

Will the journey have been worth it?  

It’s hard to suspect otherwise.  

Now, if only the chick could get out of the way of history!



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The science of mind is a spiritual science, inaccessible to the materialist living in their dream world.

“But, in fact, materialism is among the most problematic of philosophical standpoints, the most impoverished in its explanatory range, and among the most willful and (for want of a better word) magical in its logic, even if it has been in fashion for a couple of centuries or more.

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One of the deep prejudices that the age of mechanism instilled in our culture, and that infects our religious and materialist fundamentalisms alike, is a version of the so-called genetic fallacy: to wit, the mistake of thinking that to have described a thing’s material history or physical origins is to have explained that thing exhaustively. We tend to presume that if one can discover the temporally prior physical causes of some object—the world, an organism, a behavior, a religion, a mental event, an experience, or anything else—one has thereby eliminated all other possible causal explanations of that object. But this is a principle that is true only if materialism is true, and materialism is true only if this principle is true, and logical circles should not set the rules for our thinking.

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Those who have entirely lost the ability to see the transcendent reality that shows itself in all things, and who refuse to seek it out or even to believe the search a meaningful one, have confined themselves for now within an illusory world, and wander in a labyrinth of dreams. Those others, however, who are still able to see the truth that shines in and through and beyond the world of ordinary experience, and who know that nature is in its every aspect the gift of the supernatural, and who understand that God is that absolute reality in whom, in every moment, they live and move and have their being—they are awake.“

—David Bentley Hart, The Experience of God: Being, Consciousness, Bliss

The materialist has cut themselves off from such wonders of the transcendent evident in all things.

It is astounding to me that others so limit themselves.

They just don’t know what they are missing.

All of this is happening within it.

There is only the illusion of randomness.

How can they be so blind?

So relax Dan, it’s all just fine.

We will wake up.

May have a terrible hangover, but nothing is gonna stop this.

It will accelerate, you can see this due to the dividing under way.

The cells are dividing.

Best to get on board and go with the flow and enjoy the view.

The mystics are way ahead of the materialists and fundamentalists.

Yes, I need only be a witness, but being a witness to the Truth is to participate in the larger show.

We all participate in one fashion or another……. we cannot avoid it.

It does keep one occupied, and otherwise out of trouble.

You have to be careful, it can scramble your eggs and land you in the looney bin if you desync too much from the muppet narrative You don’t want to share too much of the burning bush.

They are liable to nail you to a cross.

Or lobotomize you.

The muppet narrative is not true history.



I think I hear Santa’s reindeer on the roof.

Happy Holidays to all personalists everywhere!

Merry Christmas Everyone!

dan wrote:1455zulu/gmt……..

Every aspect of the best possible world is premised upon the imminent occurrence of a paradigm shift from materialism to immaterialism.

No previous such ‘shift’ would be comparable.

The radical nature of the envisioned ‘shift’ might better be characterized as a gestalt switch…… wherein the whole world is turned inside out and upside down.  

We become the denizens of a cosmic dream world.  

Short of such a radical inversion, the BPW is a mere flight of fancy.  

Nonetheless, I’m convinced that an unbiased, fresh look at the world would place immaterialism as a lead contender among world views.  

Yes, scientific materialism has accumulated a daunting collection of factoids.  

Any other view would have to appeal to some cosmic conspiracy to obscure the Truth of our situation.  

This ‘grand deception’, and our resulting ‘great apostasy’ would have to have been programmed into the Creation, from its inception.

And why would any imagined Creator have deceived us so?

The contention of personalism is that Creation is by us, for us, and about us.  

Without this grand deception, the BPW would have been inconceivable.

A God of revelation would necessarily traffic in concealment.  

Why revelation?  

Why concealment?

What sort of game is this?  

It is simply hide and seek.  

This is the nature…… the crux…. of history…….

Now we see a reflection in a mirror; then we will see face-to-face. ... Now I know partly; then I will know fully…….

What else could the story have been?

We shall not cease from exploration
And the end of all our exploring
Will be to arrive where we started
And know the place for the first time.

Amen to that, brother.  

It’s just that simple.  

Knowing ourselves……. It would take all of the kings men and all of the king’s horses……. all of history.  

Will the journey have been worth it?  

It’s hard to suspect otherwise.  

Now, if only the chick could get out of the way of history!



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Now this is getting warmer, imo...mostly, except for:

Dan wrote:The contention of personalism is that Creation is by us, for us, and about us. 

I don't see Creation as being by us, for us, and about us.  We're just part of it.  There's a bigger story that we have yet to get our feet wet in.  My two cents.  Cy

Something I feel you have never understood about my work here on OMF Dan I wish to try to simply express once more.

In knowing myself and pointing others so focused outside themselves to the inner infinite landscape was a supreme act of love and respect for the other.

For if I am unconscious of myself, how could I know any other truly?

In knowing oneself, you are knowing all others.

ALL is consciousness, it is the creator and destroyer of all.

Everything in creation is remembering to be and all memories are just unique geometries of consciousness.

Nothing dies, it is simply a transmutation into larger memories, thus the memories repeat relative to the information held in the large memory it forms in.

hobbit

There is evil in the world.

There was introduced on earth the possibility of limitation.

Where there are beings that simply do what their impulse drives them to do, such as the Seraph, there are lower beings that must progress back to their source.

In so doing, something is gained that is needed.

This evil seeks to hinder.

It is in this hindering, that we have the possibility to progress.

There is a false light, which is needed.

The war is played out within us and the outer world reflects this inner war.

All things work toward the best possible outcome.

Christ punched a hole in the sky sort of speak and humans were given the possibility to directly perceive again what is all around us.

They can once again connect their inner spark to the source.

Like the green lantern powering his ring from the central core.

We can gain great strength this way.

The egg or shell was broken.

Even the forces of hindrance will ultimately shed their limitation.

What I have just described is a mixture of my own gnosis and the gnosis of others.

There are many who have broken away from hindrance and they surge ahead.

The tension, now released, fuels their forward surge.

This surge is a miracle.

It is an incredibly energetic period in our lives, where great energy is released and gained as we move faster and faster and resync to the source.

What to do is simple, let go of what hinders.

Take the hand of those who are moving forward until you can move on your own.

We are pushing each other forward.

This is what this time of year reminds me of now.

While I am not a Christian, I see the potential that birthed it.

I embraced Christ as myself and this has brought all needed to me very rapidly after a lifetime of tension.

I’ll tell you what the Nazarene led me to Christians have mostly forgotten and missed.

The false light imitates the real and is always trying to suck you back into its systems.

It corrupts everything.

Truth and the Real are that which is eternal and they are to be found in the “Kingdom of God” within us.

This is the alchemical philosopher’s stone.

You have to work to gain it.

This is the gold!

This world of illusions can offer you nothing real.

You can’t find the stone in a book, you have to experiment and act to find it.

I am thankful.

I am humbled.

There is a reason for the season.

But it is occulted from the masses.

The stories of each religion are guides to what lies within and beyond them.

I do not need to convince anyone of this.

It is revealed when it is the best time to do so in each of us.

I think the phenomena that confuses us now, partially seeks to hinder us, but ultimately help us.

Even the darkest evil helps us.

Even the serial killer you may meet or the thief who takes from you.

From the other side, when looking back, all is inverted.

Each will receive what they are able to.

The possibilities are vast and incredible.

This is the source of the greatest joy and peace.

Imagine being trapped in a dying universe as the materialist is.

Or trapped in a Heaven or Hell as the fundamentalist is.

Christ beckons us forward and each will meet this force in time.

The things of this life will pass away.

But we are forever.

Let that sink in a little bit when you are fretting about Putin or this or that.

Fear feeds the false light and hinders.

Spiritual sovereignty is our birthright.

There is no fear in wholeness.

When the godhead is restored within you, you are a representative of the source in this false light.

The false light can create a false image of anything real.

One needs divine discernment to see through these false images.

You gain the power to dispel the false light when you are naturalized.

You have power over all false gods and images.

We don’t live in a hell world.

We live in a world infested with parasites.

Everything is feeding on everything.

Our horror stories reflect this.

Our systems of authority all feed into this false light.

This is the ultimate conspiracy behind our world.

You live to feed the system, until you break out of the system.

I hacked my way out.

It took incredible Will and focus, supernatural help was given constantly.

You are not a lost spark in a meaningless absurd universe.

On the journey you will use nihilism and absurdity to regain your discernment though.

You will have to doubt everything.

You cross a great Abyss.

But when you reach terminal velocity, wow.

All the noise just ceases.

You can think clearly and relax.

Silence is golden.  

The path to real gnosis, knowing thyself, gives you control over yourself and these hindering forces.

Your discernment is restored.

Your natural power is restored.

You can regenerate the degenerate.

Information from the source floods in.

You influence the world around you in profound powerful ways.

You are a force on earth.

All that has happened that leads you to this was worth it.

This is the eye of the storm.

This is why you can love your enemies.

You don’t really have any.

You are forever.

Put some of that in your pipe and smoke it.

It’s the high that beats all highs.

Cyrellys,

I don't see Creation as being by us, for us, and about us.  We're just part of it.  There's a bigger story that we have yet to get our feet wet in.  My two cents.  

There is a miscommunication on the meaning of personhood.  

I take persons to be fundamentally transcendental beings.  

We are self-conscious…… our selves reflect the cosmic Self.

There is that of God within all of us.

You then turn around and agree that…… we ain’t seen nothing, yet…… clearly expressing our transcendental impulse.  

You suggest that personhood is a limitation…….. no, it is just an invitation to the great beyond.  

This is what makes all of us special.  

Yes, currently we are greatly entangled in physicality.  

This is not our destiny…….. it is merely our launch pad……. we had to start somewhere.  

But, no, we have vague memories…….. of having come from Heaven, trailing clouds of glory.  

We now prepare for the return journey.  

There will be our rendezvous with Eternity.  
……….


Am I forgetting about the rest of Creation?  

All of Creation is entangled……. every microcosmic atom reflects the cosmos.

Yet, there must be a coherence.  

There must be Truth……. a Logos Spermatikos……. a singularity…… an I Am.  

There must be a reason as to why there is something…… rather than nothing.  

Yes, every atom, every creature is a necessary part of this something.

The notion that we somehow can contain that reason is a rather modest thought.  

The fact we can articulate that thought is more than just a biological contingency……. in many an estimation.  

I see precious little reason for us to be in denial of this possibility…… and every reason for us to celebrate our transcendental personhood.

To not be able to do so borders on the criminally anti-social, or even suicidal.  

I am not taking away from the rest of Creation…… merely pointing out that without the Self, there is nothing.  



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As I prepare for an upcoming deployment down South, I wanted to provide a bit of clarification regarding my long term friend, the Footman. He was named the Footman while serving as doorman and bouncer at a College Fraternity. Even at that time there was some debate regarding the source and meaning of that moniker. The larger men who frequented the Fraternity enjoyed the sport of watching his encounters with local men who tried to crash the parties. They sometimes saw him as a minor disturbance of their passage, whereas he saw them as an opportunity to train on live targets. For the attractive ladies who arrived,he provided a much different enticement to their passage, waving them past the entry like an elephant might invite passage to a water hole with his long trunk. What neither the men nor the ladies understood was that he had just become Footman to the as yet unborn Princess. It was about the same time that I became one of the Left Feet. Years later we met just as the Princess was born, and we began preparations for her long journey. That is when I first heard of the Chicken, and although at that time I enjoyed eating chicken, my immediate response was a sense of very bad taste -- a sense that recurs and persists every time I hear his name. Indeed that Blasphemous Blogger continues to irritate my senses, but I have come to accept that all Left Feet have a role to play during these times, so I stick to my role and avoid the stench of rotting chicken unless ordered otherwise. Speaking of strange and misleading monikers, the Princess has repeatedly declared her love for Chickens -- her feathered friends who flock to her each day -- so it seems Satan was playing a nasty joke on the Left and Right feet by granting his Son the moniker, Chicken Little. As I prepare for what I anticipate will be a final gathering, I smell that foul air preparing to blow South, and I wonder why I was rebuilt once again with such a fine sense of smell.

I thank you, Skai, for whatever forbearance you can muster, in my regard.

I wonder what Dan thinks of Sean's theoretical physics and philosophy in the context of persons.

When did Avi drink Tim Leary's SMI^2LE kool aid? ;-)

SEEKING IMMORTALITY IN SPACE: ENCOUNTERS WITH ‘INTERSTELLAR MEMORABILIA’ -- AVI LOEB

https://thedebrief.org/seeking-immortality-in-space-encounters-with-interstellar-memorabilia/

Gary,

Sean is now at Hopkins……. protecting their medical reputation makes them lean heavily towards scientific materialism, of which Sean is a staunch supporter.

Left 🦶 and his people and I can only surmise Dan, are followers and prophets of the false light.

That’s cool.

Most muppets serve this system of control and push the narratives of slavery and division.

Dan has spoken about the one, but he certainly does not represent unity.

What can you expect from scrambled eggs.

Shrug.

I wanted to address a very serious issue, the dishonesty of Dan Smith. Not only is he dishonest, his lies are intended to cause serious harm. In that sense, his lies reflect a very deep evil, and unfortunately that evil sometimes causes others to act out with criminal intent. In this post, I am going to address a very sinister lie posted by Dan Smith to this blog and then bolstered with further lies -- all with evil intent -- in emails and phone calls with those individuals Dan Smith motivated to act out with criminal intent.

Back in late 2017, Dan Smith stopped by our home to visit and enjoy lunch with my family. My wife was planning on stopping by a local range to practice shooting firearms later that afternoon. She invited Dan Smith to join us at the range, and she asked me to load several of her magazines.

I placed a gun mat on a table, then placed a stack of magazines and several boxes of ammunition. As I began loading the magazines, Dan Smith proceeded with an irritating discourse on some perverse philosophy about the end of the world. To quiet him down, I asked him to help load.

When all were loaded, I proceeded to pack up my wife's car with firearms, magazines, targets, shooting glasses, and other equipment she needed for the range. When time came to leave for the range, Dan Smith stated that he wanted to return home, so we went to the range without him.

Several weeks later after the Las Vegas shooting, Dan Smith posted that my wife and I had aided the shooter by shipping him loaded magazines and boxes of ammunition. I immediately contacted Dan Smith, complained about his evil lie, and demanded he post a correction. Rather than post a correction, Dan Smith has continued to spread this evil lie through emails and phone calls, in particular with those who believed the lie to be true and were inclined to act with criminal intent.

As a result of Dan Smith's evil lies, threats to kill my wife and rape our daughter were posted to my wife's foundation, Kashmir World Foundation, which were read by young female student interns, and over 100 death threats were sent to email addresses associated Kashmir World Foundation and to my wife's and my personal and work accounts.

Evil people are going to do evil things, so there is no excuse when someone uses evil lies to focus the evil of others to act with criminal intent. Open minds forum gives people a chance to speak their minds on a variety of issues, but it should not be a conduit for evil doers to channel others with criminal intent. Worse of all, Dan Smith is a long term family friend who brushes off his evil actions, stating merely that he enjoys the attention when he "shakes things up."

"Well, my finger prints are all over those bullet casings. What do you think about that?"

"If I really believed that you killed a bunch of people, Dan, I would call the FBI immediately."

"I didn't kill anybody, the princess asked me to load a bunch of ammunition..."

Now I have to say airborne and left 🦶 it’s not very sporting to kick a chicken when he is down.

Scrambled eggs or not, we should wish the best for each other.

He was recently held for a long period of time by his family at a hospital to observe him for his unstable behavior.

I do not know if he was released or not.

He was a babbling fool for a bit of time.

It seems to me he is not well.

What is evil but a hindrance for us to overcome?

I can’t see the Dan I knew sending rape and death threats.

Yes, I’ve seen his anger flash.

And I personally don’t agree with end of the world prophecies.

But those are some accusations.

Us innocent loons are not privy to the internal politics of your private interactions.

Maybe he did, maybe he didn’t.

Given the anonymity of most folks posting on the forum, we can’t take their word for anything really without corroborating evidence.

And if he has done such things, he should face what he has done.

We all do evil things and are capable of such.

One would wonder what your motivation for attacking Dan in his incapacitated state would be.  

Us public loons do wonder what Dan is doing with Ron Pandolfi and his wife and why they would post details here on OMF?

My continuing theory is Dan has been off his rocker for a long time and perhaps was once your friend.

Why this trip to Turkey

Why this talk or portals?

What should we make of Dan’s contention the princess and Ron are on some kind of mission and are aliens?

And let’s not forget Dan claiming to be the Spirit of Truth!

We have quite a long list of claims.

In spite of his eschatological rantings, he does know “a little” philosophy.

More than the average muppet.

How many of you have read Heraclitus or Parmenides?

Not many would be my guess.

My continued feeling is anyone who is not willing to be naked in public is a liar and a fraud lacking courage and authenticity.

I’ll leave it there.

I wish Dan well, of course.

He sure does like to shake things up.

Anyone who takes his vivd imagination seriously probably deserves to be taken for a ride.

He also can hold his own with philosophy—despite being wrong.

The question is, does his eschatology have anything to do with why he likes to "shake things up."

No one is really wrong who lives their philosophy.

There is no ultimate answer or tradition that is right or wrong.

This just is what it is.

You can have whatever experience here you like and have any opinion you like.

This is my opinion, it is a waste of time to try to shake things up or manipulate others.

Real philosophy is about knowing thyself.

And the result of such an endeavor is to realize nothing is certain but change.

One can become unshakeable going with the flow.

If one has decided they know how things are, well, that’s pure delusion.

Socrates was right on when he said I know that I don’t know.

Philosophy is not written down or taught, it’s a way of life.

I personally feel we should encourage each other to be our best, by ourselves being our best.

Anyway, Dan and everyone else can do as they are capable and believe what they like.

Why should one care what another believes

People who are tying to shake things up, are themselves shaken up.

They are terrified and seeking to control others to deal with that fear.

It has come to come to my attention that a few of our dear muppets are beginning to wake up and smell the eschatological coffee.  

They have not been paying attention to the Bible, and are not aware that the Antichrist is part of the eschatological mix.

As they awake from their slumber of materialism…… they tend to see things in black and white……. they take it upon themselves to assassinate the assassins.  

How many times will I have to remind us……

Turning and turning in the widening gyre  
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere  
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst  
Are full of passionate intensity.

Anyone who wishes to be the Christ had best be prepared to be taken as the Antichrist.

Why would anyone wish to be either one?  

No one in their right mind would so wish.  

Speaking for myself, I don’t believe I was ever given a choice.  

It was just like……. ok, dummy, time to wake up.  

I had nary a clue as to what I was being woken to….. but I knew something was up……. there was just the encounter with Sophia, and then with John 16.  It was years before I was able to connect the dots…… two of which were the R&D show.  

Only much later was the possibility of an incarnation brought to my attention.  

And so the story goes…….

Story, story……. who’s got the Story?  

Step right up…….. one and all.

But has there ever been any competition?

Upon what ceremony would we be standing?



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