Personalism 102

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Personalism 102 is just a continuation Personalism 101…….. as we approach the limit of 40 pages.  

The contention remains that the best possible world is necessarily based on the philosophy and ontology of Personalism.  

The ontology is immaterialism, taken at it’s most fundamental level.

I claim nothing.

I simply opened in time and shared the view from here.

I’m honest.

I found it hilarious how sure anyone was of anything.

But I stopped knocking the ball out of people’s hands.

Being here is odd.

It feels strange.

There is no mind body problem.

Love is the pre-condition for being.

chivo,

Well, you managed to divert most of the ufo 🛸 weenies.

Soren was not a ufo weenie.  

Maybe he had mommy issues.

Karl, at least, did not have mommy issues.  

And about hindsight………

Maybe this is my whole point…… you can’t have hindsight without an Eschaton.  

You can’t have Being without an Eschaton.  

Who needs Being?

Does Chivo need Being.  

He acts like he already has it.  

Well, maybe he just doesn’t want the plot spoiler.  

Then I guess you came to the wrong place.  

Poor chivo.  

Atheistic existentialists are sitting on a goldmine…… personalism.  

As such, they play a crucial role in the Katechon.  

How are they allowed to get away with it?  

Such is the labyrinth of Academic politics……. much of which is played out under the guise of Academic freedom.  

Yes, they have nothing left to lose…….. nothing left to deconstruct.  

History is about to catch up with them.  

Fools rush in……..

Aprés chick , la Deluge.  Is there any one of us who won’t get buried in the avalanche?
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It’s almost certain that the academic community, consciously and unconsciously, conspires to maintain the Katechon.  

One wonders, however, if they will not select one of their own to be the icebreaker……… at the last moment.  

The intelligence community may have already decided on a preferred scenario.  

Where does the recent disowning of the chick fit into this picture?  

Wouldn’t we like to know?  

The academics and or the spooks may have already latched onto a specific phenomenon to trot out in public, to be the ostensible trigger for the MoAPS.  

This would be presented like the tic-tak story.  

Perhaps there will be a team of researchers……. again similar to the TTSA, but, at this point, there is likely to be more staying power…. more star power.  

Then it will devolve into…… who knew what, and when did they know it?  

It may get messy.  

For how long can the metaphysical angle of the phenomenon by delayed?  

For how long can the eschatological angle be delayed.  

As I used to say…….. things will move very slowly…… until the day when we all wish they would slow down!  

The best laid plans will very quickly get caught up in cosmic drama .

It is entirely possible that some MJ12 type group has already established contact with their cosmic counterparts.  

If such machinations may have involved the alleged ‘three visitors’, I was never given a heads up, before or after being abruptly shown the door.  

I believe my exit was staged, but not by any of my former colleagues.  

There was no sense of any anticipation……. certainly not that I could discern. It was all very spontaneous……. overnight….. in Lima.



(cont…….)

Chill goat boy

It was just a joke

It wasn’t that deep

A joke claim ok

Anyway

I have no clue what dan is rambling in about Lima, TTSA, MJ12, and three visitors.

Clearly the old man is wrapped up in some quaint meta narrative

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My 6 ye old girl found a copy of the Tao Te Ching in our closet bookshelf and randomly started copying verses.

She said she liked it because the words sound wise

I have no clue where she learns such things

I don’t really instruct my kids

The Tao Te Ching is my parenting manual

There are thousands of parenting books but the TTC says it all much simpler

Best to let kids be kids while they still are

6 yrs of age is a peak experience IMO, no need to taint it prematurely

if she finds an interest in her own ain’t nothing wrong with that






Cute

May she forever stay young in heart and spirit

Aaron,

Thanks…… remarkable!

Intelligence skips generations.

Glad your kid got their share

Hehehe

Eschaton smeskaton.

The word "eschaton" originates from the ancient Greek word "ἔσχατον" (eschaton), which is the neuter singular form of the adjective "ἔσχατος" (eschatos), meaning "last" or "farthest". It was used in Greek to refer to the furthest extent of something, either in physical space or in time.

Let’s stay close to the original meaning.

Christianity distorted and joined with all that came before.

The religion is a fabricated golem.

As far as their stories about the end of time, sorry, no thanks.

No disrespect.

All are welcome to believe what they like.

As far as chasing off the inauthentic 🛸 weenies?

Can’t take the heat or smelly goat smell, oh well

Things happen for the best, right

The best are here.

They weenies were far from reality.

They were weak.

No courage.

Deranged probably.

Light dispels shadows.

Judging clouds the mind with them.

If they had anything golden, they would have shared it.

They are full of gold, they just hadn’t dug it up.

Real Alchemy is tricky business.

This being human is a guest house.

Greet all you meet as friends.

Chivo,

I made an important ontological observation, I which you are missing or ignoring…….

There is no Being without time……. this is the point that Heidegger made, I believe, but I haven’t seen it in so many words.  

This is the point of cyclical time.

If you want linear or historical time, it is something else.  

Time cannot be open ended.

If you want Being, there has to be closure.

Yes, a rock 🪨 is a rock, with or without closure.  

But a rock is not a Being.  

What is a Being?

Being there…… that’s being.  

Wikipedia……..

The word being means a living person or animal. 'Human being' means the same as 'person'. Men, women, and children are human beings. Some people write stories or make movies about beings from other planets.

Do animals have Being?

To be may imply the faculty of self-awareness.  

By some definitions, Being merely implies consciousness.  

In some instances, Beings are synonymous with Creatures……. Beings from outer space.  

Does aversive behavior imply sentience?  

Does sentience imply consciousness?  

Are amoebas then conscious?  

If you are a panpsychist, then rocks are conscious.

Very few of us are panpsychists.  

Another consideration comes to the fore…….

What about the microcosm?  

The epitome of the microcosm is taken to be the person.  

There is some sense, however, in which atoms are microcosmic….. certainly from a mathematical or Pythagorean point of view.  

There may be a stronger sense in which the Quantum is microcosmic.

This raises some serious philosophical issues.  

This is where Heidegger may have missed the boat .  

Wheeler did not miss it……. the only real phenomenon is the observed phenomenon.  

Let’s take it that this is not an endorsement of behaviorism.  

Long live subjectivism!  

An observation is no simple thing.  

Observation requires context…… where, when, what?  

My question is whether a finite context will suffice.  

And what do I mean by this?  

Well, for instance, in the case of the Multiverse, you would have to be able to specify a particular universe.  

Why so much context?  

If an apple hits Newton on the head…… it hits him on the head.  

Well, then you have to be able to specify who Newton is.

Why……. who cares?

Certainly chivo doesn’t care.  

chivo is not a physicist.  

Well, why can’t the rest of us just shut up and calculate?  

This is what we did when making the bomb.  

Some of us have had second thoughts.  

My second thought was the Anthropic Principle.  

My complaint is that we have not made a federal case of it.

We go on from the Bomb and the AP as if it were business as usual.  

Certainly, this is chivo’s attitude.

Heidegger tried to make a federal case for Being.  He didn’t succeed.  

My claim is that he didn’t try hard enough…… and/or his fellow philosophers didn’t provide sufficient assistance, or pick up the baton.  

But, hey, if this is anything, this is the best possible world.  

So, the philosophers and physicists are doing the best possible thing.  

Yes…….. they are all waiting for Godot…… and, if not , then who?  

Ok, but aren’t we all just waiting for the sky to fall?  

Hey, if somebody wants to get our attention, isn’t there a better possibility than Smitty on OM?  

Well, that’s why I was hanging thick with the Princess.

And that was going fine until someone started making threats.  

Someone will have to open a portal.  

chivo, when he’s in the mood, claims to have done this, if I’m not mistaken.  

Lacking anyone else, Chivo may have to step up…… if he doesn’t mind.  

His not caring, though, may be his best possible attitude….. until the cows come home.  

I might make fun of the ufo 🛸 weenies, but I’m not making fun of the portal people.  

Somebody within the sound of my voice probably knows such a one.  

Why are they not stepping up?  

Ok, but on whose command will the sky fall?  

Who thinks we’d better get serious about Being?  

To be or not to be…….. isn’t that our only question.  

Doesn’t Smitty have faith in the best possible world?  
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I think there’s no question about the fact that belief in evolution is the biggest hurdle for the BPWH to overcome.  

Second on the list of hurdles would be astrophysics.  

Let’s look at Darwinism…….

The hurdle here has mainly been political…….. it’s secular humanism v religious fundamentalism.  

If the intelligentsia were to display any weakness vis a vis Darwin, the rabid right would be all over it.  

Historically, the intelligentsia has been willing to display weakness on the question of consciousness.  

The fundamentalists are not all over the mind/body problem.  

Why not?  

There is the realization, at some level, that the mind/body problem does not lend itself to the fundamentalist cause……. in fact it might go the other way…… toward immaterialism, which would be a very hot potato for religionists.  

If I we arguing the case……. well, I guess I am, here….

Once you realize that there is, already, a major breach in the scientific paradigm, only then might some folks be willing to look closer at the entire scientific edifice.  

But, yes, there would have to be, at the beginning, a massive amount of self-re-education…… for some select group.  

A major source of funding would be required.  

Another approach would be to direct an effort towards an already existing group……. the phenomenologists, for instance.  

One might wonder if there weren’t already some phenomenologists who were having second thoughts about the materialist paradigm.  

I see some interesting sections for this on the SEP phenomenology article…… https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/phenomenology/ ….

Where do we find consciousness and intentionality in the quantum-electromagnetic-gravitational field that, by hypothesis, orders everything in the natural world in which we humans and our minds exist? That is the mind-body problem today. In short, phenomenology by any other name lies at the heart of the contemporary mind-body problem.

Well, that’s a start…….

For Searle explicitly assumes the basic worldview of natural science, holding that consciousness is part of nature. But Husserl explicitly brackets that assumption, and later phenomenologists—including Heidegger, Sartre, Merleau-Ponty—seem to seek a certain sanctuary for phenomenology beyond the natural sciences. And yet phenomenology itself should be largely neutral about further theories of how experience arises, notably from brain activity.

But now a problem remains. Intentionality essentially involves meaning, so the question arises how meaning appears in phenomenal character. Importantly, the content of a conscious experience typically carries a horizon of background meaning, meaning that is largely implicit rather than explicit in experience. But then a wide range of content carried by an experience would not have a consciously felt phenomenal character. So it may well be argued. Here is a line of phenomenological theory for another day.

A basic fact of academic life is that the sciences are funding the humanities……. The humanities are ill-advised if they bite the hand that feeds them.  

So, they don’t.  

A similar fact of life dominates all of social discourse.  

The religious sector has its own well-defined playpen.  
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The thought comes to mind that, if there is going to be any concerted effort, it would likely have to come from a special purpose group like the Jasons.  We already know someone who has a foot in that door.  That fact, however, could work in either direction.  

After any and all machinations, virtually nothing will be left to chance.

These are only things to be looking out for.



(cont……..)

Funny how we can be perceived.

That’s a lot of words about something beyond words.

You just have to experience it.

Then you won’t argue

I guess no one really can know another unless they know themselves.

That’s right, work with what shows up.

Turn into the wind.

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And a mighty wind it is.

I just got back from a trip to Antarctica

A little astral projection trip down south

There was a big lake with nearly black water

A guard station near a cave

Some tall blond dude inside was eating a small perfect round watermelon

He handed one to me

I cracked it open with a rock

There was nothing inside, just the rind with no meat

Then a flying bell came out of the water and zapped me with something

A kind of electric vibrating shock

It shot me back to my body and I came to and posted this right away

I’m sure it was nothing

We are everywhere

We are everything

I’m going back there again tonight

I recon that lake is like the earth’s asshole

Gonna dive in and see what I can see

Astral bodies can breath underwater

I may end up with an astral body covered in shit

I call it the 6th reek…I mean Reich

If one thinks they understand God, they haven’t.

If one thinks they understand quantum physics, they haven’t.

Questions bubble up from our consciousness for all of us.

Pay attention to the questions that arise.

All that is is sacred.

If you treat everything sacredly, being will sing to you.

You don’t need to go anywhere

It’s all right here.

It’s in your child’s eye or the brush of a hand.

When we stop looking to go somewhere else, being sings to us.

What was Ein Sof’s first act?

It retracted.

It broke the 12 vases.

It’s for us to repair these.

If you pray, ask nothing.

Listen.

Chivo,

Yes, there is that of God in all of us and in every situation.  
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I have been spending time reviewing a dissertation by James Cartlidge…… Interpreting and Developing Heidegger’s Analysis of Dasein as Philosophical Anthropology……. (2021) https://philarchive.org/archive/CARIAD-4  

I was investigating the differences between Being and Person.

The notion of philosophical anthropology pretty much splits that difference.  

Politically, this difference is pointed up in the distinction between theistic and atheistic existentialism.  

Personhood points to the essence of Being.  

But existentialism, according to Sartre, places existence as ontologically prior to essence.

This is definitely looking at Being from a phenomenological point of view.  

So I guess I’m looking at Being from a theoretical/ontological point of view.  

One might also consider the Aristotelian distinction of substance and accidental.  

One popular account of existentialism is that life is an absurdity in a meaningless universe.  

To suppose that that there is anything substantial/fundamental about existence is to presuppose that personhood is somehow ontological.  

Think of the distinction between atma and anatta……. depending on your stance between Hinduism and Buddhism.  

Hindus go further by supposing that Atman = Brahman…… sort of like saying that there is that of God in all of us.  

The supposition that there are no essences is the presupposition of Darwinism, and of natural science in general.  
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But don’t let the Buddhists try to fool you……. instead of Brahman, they have Buddha Nature…….

Buddha-nature refers to this pure, natural, and luminous state of our consciousness which is free from any duality or defilement. All beings are said to possess buddha-nature, which is what makes enlightenment possible.

yes, we all possess the logos spermatikos…… the cosmic seed….. the cosmic womb….. Hiraṇyagarbha…… etc.  

In my estimation, this is what personhood is all about.

Once you have established personhood, arguments about God are quite superfluous……. a major waste of time.

We came from the One….. we return to the One.

I don’t doubt that chivo can realize his oneness with the One whenever he is so disposed.

When our time comes, each and every one of us will be able to sit down and have a cold one with……. whomever…… .

That’s not saying that the jguy is going to get soused, but the further you go, the more personal it gets.

In the meantime, should we have our go bag sitting by the door?

If that makes you happy, why not…… getting overly anxious, however, is not going realign the stars.



(cont……..)

That's going to be a lot of beer Dan!

Pray it's not Pabst Blue Ribbon



Cheers!

Dan,

Time.
Is relative to the memory field You are within.

This planet has a speed of light ( which is the net difference between implosion over outrush of consciousness relative to that memory field)

299,792,458.

Which is why the great pyramid is exactly where it is.

There is no such thing as time.

That is why the solstice and equinox reveal this as the field flows reverse then.

Tempus fugit.

As You age Your personal field shrinks.

Boost Your field, know thyself, heal thyself ( your a time field being)

Boost that field enormously and become the christ field.

hobbit

Hobbit,

Who or what gave rise to persons?  

I have a partial answer to that question.  

I would be glad to share it with you, as I already have with everyone else.  

I believe that properly entangled persons provide an adequate explanation for all other phenomena.

Occam’s razor suggests that personalism, therefore, should be our explanation of choice.  

I understand that you would rather put your faith in your own, proprietary, version of field theory.

I have the impression that you carry a longstanding aversion to persons, as do many ecologists.

My understanding is that persons are very confused about the nature of reality and themselves.  

We are being set up for a cosmic denouement, under the rubric of Revelation, which is at the heart of the prophetic tradition.

In the meantime, you are welcome to keep us advised on your findings.  

Thanks, .  
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There are many more phenomenalists in academia than there are personalists.  

This has mainly to do with the political divisions between science and religion.  

The major fraction of personalists harbor some version of soul theory, as do most metaphysicians.  


But back to Hobbit for a minute………

As I recall, Hobbit’s field of choice is cosmic consciousness.

It is vortices in this field that give rise to the sentience/consciousness of us, creatures…….. we are a perfectly natural phenomenon.  

Hobbit’s field theory fails address the problem of teleology and ontology.  

I’m not sure how the field of cosmic consciousness relates to the other fields such as electric and gravitational, etc.
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I following JA Wheeler in that the only real phenomenon is the observed phenomenon…….. and so I posit a primordial observer…… the I Am.

The I Am, emerging as in a cosmic isolation tank, proceeds to hallucinate……. we are the imaginary playmates, the co-Hallucinators/Creators.

The physics and biology emerges along with our level playing field, that is now the Earth…….. all part of our collective consciousness.

Yes, this is a geocentric, anthropocentric cosmology.

Space and time are epiphenomena.

So we posit the best possible Alpha&Omega, with a Feynman-type of best possible history connecting them.

This is our collective Creation.

There was very little room for maneuver.



(cont……….)

“…arguments about God are quite superfluous……. a major waste of time.”

Yep.

Life is a happening.

Chivo,

Well, I say just enough about God to effectively bracket/internalize her.  

We are all her playmates.

I trust that she does not imbibe Blue Ribbon.  

I imagine that she prefers hop water.  

The main issue is to agree upon the optimal size and time span for Creation.

What you see is what we came up with.

If you’ve got complaints, you need to come up with a better package.

Creation is a package deal.

By the way, in the beginning and the end, there is only one person.

We all become one with the One, whether we like it or not.

There were plenty of chances to opt out.

If you’re here, there’s a pretty good chance that you chose to take the whole package, and, in fact, took some significant role in its conception and reification.

Hey, it’s good enuf for gummint work!



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Dan,
You assume too much about moi.

All is one in a giant mixing bowl, the outcomes are countless, humans are nothing special, just manipulated slaves.

Consciousness is all there is, the arrogance of humans been special is astounding.

hobbit

hobbit,  

I’m having trouble understanding why, in your mind, humans are here.

Are we a cosmic mistake, a cosmic accident, or what?  

If consciousness is everything, then why aren’t you an immaterialist?  

Is there any cosmic coordination occurring on any level, or is everything an accident?  

You keep your cards close to your vest.

You are quick to cast aspersions, but very slow to offer any explanations or alternatives.  

I, at least, offer excuses……. there is a reason for everything, on some level.  

What I see is a great deal of human confusion……. confusion that will be relatively easy to sort out, once the time is right.

There is a time for everything.



(cont……..)

Confusion abounds.

The muppets are so confused they don’t know what sex they are anymore.

So confused that neighbor hates neighbor.

So confused they can’t see past the color of their skin.

So confused we still bomb, starve, and drown children.

Moloch must be fed.

What if we stopped feeding Moloch?

Did they fear the hippies that much?

An open heart is immortal.

This version of humanity is full of themselves and greedy.

They are collapsing in.

They would drown you if you tried to save them.

What if we did wake up and stopped insisting our identities are real?

Yes, there is only a Oneness.

I wouldn’t anthropomorphize Oneness like Dan seems to need to, but only just enough.

Apocalypse is a revelation, a revealing.

Once this occurs, everything gets worked out right quick.

As it goes in one person’s life who awakens, so it goes for all else.

When the show is over, we can all take a bow.

We don’t awake from this dream.

We awaken into it.

You can feel yourself in the world, not as a stranger, not as an accident, but fundamental.

I can’t speak about anything beyond right now.

The Oneness can be as it is.

I’m not judging this world, I’m moving with it, and loving it.

This is a strange funny show.

All my words were just a precursor to my silence, an emptying.

Silence is integral to this experience.

I have found a great secret.

Solitude.

Only in solitude may we truly commune with what is and is not.

It is such a healing balm for the chaos of our culture today.

Oh for it all to be turned OFF!

Paradise.

Bruce Lipton, He gets it.

Hobbit

……. George's University School of Medicine as a professor of anatomy for three years. Lipton has said that sometime in the 1980s, he rejected atheism and came to believe that the way cells function demonstrates the existence of God.

Ok, we’ll buy that.  

We could have saved a lot of misunderstandings, if you had cut to the chase……. five years ago.

But we may be one or two steps ahead of Bruce…… and virtually everyone else, for that matter.  

Yes, I’m one step ahead of Bruce, and virtually everyone else, because I know that Bruce is God, pretending to be a mortal…… just like all the rest of us.  

But that information is above top secret…….. it’s even classified above the foot 🦶 level.

What I’m not sure about is whether it is classified above the Princess level.  

I suspect not, but I’ll tell you that she knows how to play her cards.  

Now we’ll get to see if I know how to play mine……. .

The first, and maybe the last, is Being……. you know….. to be or not to be!  

All you need to know is that Being is necessarily relational.  

Relational to what?  

……. to the best possible world…… dummies!  

I’m not sure if the Princess understands this.

If she did, she wouldn’t have had to tell me about the Sun going out.

The portals opening and the Sun going out would be strictly epiphenomenal to the cosmic entanglement of Being.

If chick plays his cards right, we’ll barely even notice when the Sun goes out.  

Yes, technically, we’re talking about relationalism, which is the principle manifestation of personalism.  

The other, closely _related_ manifestation is the microcosmic aspect of personhood.

As microcosms, we are necessarily demigods.  

But I don’t believe in demigods.  

With personhood, it’s necessarily all or nothing…… there’s no demis about it.  

But what if two Demi’s can’t agree…… do they fight to the death?  

Well, they can if they like, but that’s considered a bit gauche….. deplorable, is another word.  

I suspect that you’ve heard about the Trinity……… wonderful!

So, you may think of us as being 10^10 persons in one substance….. that substance being cosmic consciousness, if you like…… or the collective unconscious, if you prefer.  

You get the idea .  

Ok, so what else is new?  

Can’t we demonstrate this without making the go out?

Personally, I think that would be a bit gauche.  

10^10 =>> 1 ……. this is what personhood is all about.  

You can think of it as cosmic entanglement……. the Restaurant at the End of the universe……… the wedding feast in the sky ….. Atman = Brahman = Buddha Nature.  

You get the idea ………

I can see how 10^10 souls =>> One Soul/Source/Telos might be confused with Anatta/Sunyata.

The Bguy just didn’t want to give away the Store.  

Yes, this was a setup, sports fans!



(cont……..)

Quantum Theory’s ‘Measurement Problem’ May Be a Poison Pill for Objective Reality
Solving a notorious quantum quandary could require abandoning some of science’s most cherished assumptions about the physical world

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/quantum-theorys-measurement-problem-may-be-a-poison-pill-for-objective-reality/

Gary,

I understand the simple measurement problem, with the collapse of the wave function.  

It’s not clear what is being added with these additional complications.  

I don’t think the author understands either.  

Anyway, I don’t take atomic physics too seriously, because I’m not a reductionist to begin with.  

Let’s say that I’m not expecting consciousness to jump out of a quantum computer.  

There is a unity to consciousness to which the quantum is only epiphenomenal.  

Portals work under entanglement, but I wouldn’t say that they are quantum devices.  

Portals are much more about altered states of consciousness than about quantum physics.  

We are not going to mass produce portals on an assembly line…… nor ufos 🛸 for that matter.  

In other words, I don’t believe in the Big Bang .  

Being a geocentrist, the sky is epiphenomenal to the Earth…… all appearances to the contrary notwithstanding.  

Yes, physics is necessarily anthropocentric.  

The editors of Scientific American are virtually mum on this score…..

Yes, the Katechon is implicitly a criminal conspiracy….. if not explicitly so……. forgive them Lord, they know not what they are doing…….

Felix culpa!……. “For God judged it better to bring good out of evil than not to permit any evil to exist.”

Hey, it’s not rocket science.  

I think we could have figured this out on our own, with a little help from our better angels ……. and this is basically what happened, sub specie aeternitatis.  

We are all time travelers in the end.

Folks understand implicitly that we are being set up for the MoAPS….. mother of all paradigm shifts.  

It’s a question of a little cosmic choreography…… don’t we love it!  

We’re familiar with the phrase…… if only I’d known then what I know now.  

That pretty much explains history, if you add a little time travel, like with Utsuro Bune and number three.  

There could be no Eschaton without the Katechon.  

And who needs the Eschaton?  

You and me, sister.  

Why the cosmic drama ?  

Why the Big Bang ?

It was conceptually necessary to give nature coherence…… as an essential piece of the Metanarrative metaphor…… how we save the appearances……. prior to the MoAPS……. see Barfield.  

Scientific materialism is not an accident.  

If we had not arranged to wrap our anthropocentrism in a very convincing piece of Naturalism, there would have been no history to speak of……. yes, Felix culpa.  

We would have never left the Garden or the Homestead……. just ask chivo.  

Hey, by every design, we have spent the last 2,000 years looking for love in all the wrong places.  

Will it have been worth our historic diversion?

Hmmm……. let me think about that…….

Let me offer an educated guess……

Yes!  You can bet your bippy on that!  

If you don’t believe me, you’ll just have to be patient for a little while longer.  

I have a physical model for our best possible history.  

The zeroth approximation is an Ouroboros.  

The first approximation is an ellipse with two foci.  

The two foci are the Alpha and the Omega…… which might be thought of as the first and second coming, Creation and the Eschaton…… or whatever might be your predilection.

There are myriad opportunities for mid course corrections, sub specie aeternitatis.  

In particular, there is some very fine tuning with respect to how close we wish to approach the Eschaton.

We want to come close enough to pump a little adrenaline, but not so close that we get our hair singed.  

Yes, the Omega = Tribulation & Revelation/MoAPS.  

My presumption is that all systems are go……. they have been double checked…….. double checked……..!  

I trust that I’m not merely being presumptuous!  

If you want to think of our ellipse quantum mechanically, our singular, best possible ellipse is the optimal sum over all possible histories.  

Much of this optimization process occurs in our collective unconscious.  

That’s what we, persons, are all about.  

A big question that we might have is what happens after our close encounter with the Eschaton.  

Do we just glide back downhill to the Alpha/Source/I Am?  

That would be the zeroth approximation, but I’m thinking we’re not gonna be bored.  

There will be more than just filling our tummies at the wedding feast.

My advice, however, is to be careful what we wish for!  

I think we’ll be keeping a lookout for the stray sheep, for instance.  

We might think of Ulysses Odyssey on the way home from Troy.  

Yes, and don’t forget Joyce’s rendition.  

The whole donny/vladdie saga might be seen as a bit of a preview.

It will take a while for the lessons of the Eschaton to sink in.

Our patience will continue to be sorely tested……. but mostly it will just be a cleanup action……. we will have seen the light at the end of the tunnel.  

We won’t be forgetting.

You can ask chivo about that……..



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An oddity in the religion/science discourse is that both sides shy away from the Anthropic Principle.

Neither side knows quite what to do with it.  

The AP does not fit into the Cartesian dualistic paradigm that is familiar to both sides.  

The AP hints at a non-material…… an immaterial creation process.

The prophetic tradition is not comfortable in that domain.

The Eastern/mystical tradition is not comfortable with any inquiry into Brahman type cosmology……. Brahman cosmology is purely historical, and untouchable beyond the recognition that Atman = Brahman.  

The two traditions are not about to hop into bed with each other.

Poor chick , he can find no competition.  

Everyone else is quite content to not have to go to church on Sunday, thank you very much!  

The only academics who might be left holding the bag are the philosophers.  

They are perfectly used to keeping their heads down……. dealing with controversial issues from a purely historical perspective.  

Typically, history does not come and bite you on the rear end.  

One area where philosophers don’t seem to mind mixing it up is with the mind-body problem.  

But, again, both the secularists and sectarians shy away.  

The mind-body problem and the Anthropic Principle are both hinting at some deeper (non-dual) aspect of reality.  

So too does the phenomenology problem.  

At some point, thoughtful folks are going to have to bite the non-dual bullet.  

Is there any way to do that without getting sucked into the bogs of mysticism……. along with chivo.  

The only way is to latch onto the Eschaton…… and not many folks are prepared to do that.  

Ironically, I think it was chivo who first pointed us to DBH…… Tradition and Apocalypse.  

Eastern Orthodoxy did not suffer the twin assaults of the Reformation and the Enlightenment.  

The Patristic elements are still largely intact.  
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The underlying situation is that being makes no sense….. has no traction….. in an impersonal world.  

Existentialism has pretty much proven this.  

Folks never opted to be thrown into the absurdity of a meaningless world.  They were simply trying to make the best of a bad situation.  

The patristics and the phenomenologists both understand that you need an Eschaton to provide an anchor for history.

Does history need an anchor?  

It does if you don’t wish it to dissolve into an infinite background of space and time.  

Can’t you still maintain your own existential community?  

A community needs a point of communion.  

It needs a point of reference.  

One doesn’t just manufacture an arbitrary center.  

It needs to be understood as having been cosmically endowed.

We’ve lost all sense of endowment.  
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And what happened with pluralistic democracy?  

That was based on E Pluribus Unum….. and the basic idea that in God we can trust.  

There was also the prospect of an unlimited growth for the economy.  

With the dimming of those prospects, there is no longer a shared dream.  

Our manifest destiny was almost palpable.

Our Telos was there in the heavens beckoning us.

Now it is Elon Musk who keeps the faith.



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