Family in a Fishbowl / Princess + 0 / reality show......

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Here goes Nothing........

The Princess is barely talking to me, and I seem to be holding her kid hostage.......

I guess they’d better send in the SWAT team.  

Just another typical day in the life of the family..... of any microcosmic family........
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Links to the BPWH Glossary's 

The first is to a partial glossary......... https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t251p700-hello-cy-omf-ii-part-2  

And at the top of the glossary is the link to one of the several original mnemonic pages, grouped around April of 2016........ https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t236p425-hello-cy-omf-ii-part-2 . 

dan wrote:Sorry, hobbit,

Geometry doesn’t create persons...... persons create geometry.  

I guess your mom forgot to explain about the birds and bees.  


hobbit,

Keep in mind that your Uncle Fibonacci invented the numbers.....

The numbers didn’t invent your Uncle.  


(cont.......)

Dan,

Up to now and from the little I know I would have been on 'Team Hobbit' as regards geometry, etc in respect of the phenomenal world.

However, your point just struck me on my little noggin - ouch!

Is it we who create the patterns?

Just another 'model' perhaps?

hobbit,

If a tree falls in the forest, it might make a noise, but does it make any sound?  

Do you understand that there might be a difference?

And tell me, hobbit, who claim to know so much about numbers, how many numbers are there?  

And which came first...... numbers or nature?



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So Dan, I’ve been spending time with the ancestors.

Some notes below from Reality by Peter Kingsley.

Interesting, Parmenides was far if not farthest ahead in his time and he considered his knowledge an illusion!

Wise man, a strange freak of history, no?

We were given a warning in the West when we began using technology.

Use this, but don’t be tricked by it.

The children we are, we ripped off the warning and forgot it.

We don’t realize our knowledge is a deception.

We are coming to it fast.

In our quiet moments we know what we know is an illusion.

Our science is a fragile mythology of this moment.

The Goddess who taught Parmenides started with how things were before illustrating the illusion.

She taught him until you have touched ultimate reality, you are helpless.

Until one knows all is motionless one, we have no orientation.

Simply, there are no ladders or stages to reality.

We have reversed the order of the teaching and I assume on purpose.

We were to be taught oneness first, then the many illusions.

So we go straight to reality first.

“Unless the end was present at the beginning we couldn’t get there.”

Hmmm.

Starting in the illusion though, we can never get to reality.

We can’t make it there.

We have to be taken there.

We can only wait until then.

Only then can we see the delusion.

The deception is what is real.

So this is the ultimate upsurdity.

If we totally embrace the deception, we experience reality. If we run, we must be deceived.

Dismissing an illusion is also an illusion.

So we make our best way we can in this illusion of reality.

We do do the best we possibly can with the illusions of reality.

When we live the illusion to the fullest, we are reality fulfilling its own longing.

So in spite of appearances, regardless of all our seeming limitations, we are simply reality completing itself.

Thelema and my friend Berdyaev seem close to this.

So many illusions painting over the real.

The ancestors have reminded me of an important warning.

I’ll take it to he/art.

Here we do not split reality into infinities, that way is chaos and insanity.

Here we are transported to reality and awakened.

Then...live it up and smile like you mean it.

I like this Parmenides, I like his appearance very much.

Hobbit must get mesmerized by the lines.

Geometry relates to remembering all is an illusion of reality.

The story behind the story of our lives gets stranger and stranger.

Smelly one,

I was mesmerized by the lines, but then I found the serpents travelling upon them, they certainly can mesmerize You, but not a hobbit.

The lines create pathways, that create local polygons ( parrot flew out the window), the polygons are nested and the serpents spiral into the central zone and spiral back out again in reverse (that's what a so called black hole is at the centre of galaxy)

The serpents are consciousness ( aether) that take the route of least resistance, Your heart is Your major such area, and that's what makes it go tick tock tick tock.

Without Your local circulating serpents Your heart will stop and they will say You are dead, then You will so called set solid until the Earths serpents take over to convert Your vehicle to be more Earth.

The rigor is a clue to the solid universe of infinite perfectly packed stuff that is not visible ( gods house is as glass) .

Our vehicles are memory on the 3D face of the geometry of that packing, but We are eternal on the 5D face of the packing.

Hobbit

I am a necessary lie and a liar.

That doesn't leave much room to say anything that would help anyone in the end....

That's okay....words and thoughts happen.

Just saying.....

The center is complete emptiness.

Stick to the center and drop all delusions instantly.

The unknowable is the unknowable....plain and simple.

KISS.

All of you are sticking to the center very well, good job!

Please continue for eternity repeating empty words, a.k.a. lies, over and over and over and over.....

At least I'm not expecting any different results ..... and at least this is the BPW .... or so they say.

Really it's the only possible world, but nothing wrong with putting a positive spin on things.

Nothing wrong with anything really.

Nothing wrong with lies even.

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Note to self: learn to love the lies...

Ok ok....maybe just a tiny bit of sour grapes one last time....

I promise I'll be a good boy now.

My singing engagement went fine Dan... just letting you know. Invited for next Saturday night's show to sing Patsy Cline's "Crazy" and L. Ronstadt's "Blue Bayou" (but that's a hard one. Ha! But what the hell, it's only karaoke. lol). The venue for these shows is country western and blue grass. Need to buy a new pair of jeans and boots to fit the genre.

The nature of reality is deception Ack.

Welcome to the party.

Illusions propagate illusions infinitely.

Parmenides’ descriptions were chronological first, he never the less was trying to describe what is, not what might be.

99, very good singing blue bird.

Thanks smelly.... it brought me luck!

Made that post about being a liar last night after sitting next to my wife while she listened to a podcast from some Mormon mom about how to raise children to be good little Mormons.

This lady went on and on about all the things that the children must be taught and all the rules and commandments they must be taught to follow. (Mormons have a million rules)

After some time listening to all these lies I turned to my wife and said “I think the best way to raise our kids is to not think to much about it and go with the flow in the moment. Animals don’t need any instruction books and they get along just fine raising their young.”

Wife was pretty upset for me making that suggestion....she slept in the guest bed...

After a night of sleep I’m back in good graces with her again.

I just suggested we go on a picnic today and get out in nature instead of going to church and dressing up in uncomfortable clothes and sitting in a stuffy crowded building on such a beautiful day.

I don’t think she is going to go for it, she just got in the shower.....we shall see.

Whatever she chooses I’ll have to roll with.

Church is so yawn, thank God they changed it from three hours to two.

Learning to love the lies and abide the delusions takes some serious relax and chill out vibes...

Anyway, my little rant....

The thing I wish more than anything for my children is that they have peace and tranquillity in their life.

I think the best way to teach them peace is to be the peace.

If you are listening to podcasts about parenting and always worried and stressed about how you are doing as a parent then you are not at peace and you will raise kids that will stress and worry about their own kids when they grow up.

It’s a vicious endless cycle of fear and worry.

Shrug.

We are all just doing our best to survive I guess.

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My picnic idea was rejected.  

I’m staying home with our baby while my wife takes our older two girls to church.


All religions are evil.

It’s nice to know none of them will survive during the millennium.

Or will they?

Don’t know.

During the millennium maybe all religions become one.

Have you thought about marriage counseling Ack? It sounds like it would be very beneficial in the situation you and your spouse are in now. The bottom line is, no matter what, your kids come first.

99,

I get all my marriage advice from my Princess. (Serod my wife)

Actually we are doing better than ever, honestly.

Thanks though.

And yes I agree, the children must come first.

Good to hear that. The Princess is a very wise person. I'm sure she's been giving you excellent feedback on these issues.

Oh yes

Plenty of feedback

There is enough feedback in this world to go around, that’s for sure.

Well, I’m gonna go on a nice long walk with little Aria and see if I can get her to nap in the stroller.

It’s a beautiful Morning for a little walk.

I’m not a parent, so I can’t relate really there Ack.

You are in a challenging situation, while illusory in every way, you still live it and experience and feel it.

She has her version of reality, as you do.

I would wish my kids peace and good lives too, but I know there is no guarantee of such.

But more than anything, I would want them flexible and adaptable.

In the moments no one was looking I would hope they made the noble choices.

I think separation is evil and impossible.

So is evil real?

It’s appearance is part of reality.

I used to feel alone, but that’s impossible.

If I’m not alone, then I can be there for everyone I’m connected to.

I must.

I know better.

This is a deep divide you find yourself on the edge of, no doubt.

You can stand it.

You can take it.

I do not know what you see or know or really know much, but I am convinced, embracing the deception called life, with all our being, is the way.

I wouldn’t let go.

But others may.

We don’t let go.

We hold this together.

I can’t let go, I’d just be deceiving my self if I tried.

I have tried to shake my wife off, she only cling harder until I woke up and the child finally realized things are Stellar.

Things are so bright, we gotta wear shadez.

What deception can stand alone in the light?!

Ack,

We all need some kind of structure, I think even smelly is, very slowly, coming to this realization.  

Children, eventually, need something to rebel against...... it is part of maturing.  

Is it possible to rebel against the best possible world?  That may become an issue.  

The BPW will provide a safer arena in which we may try out new ideas.  


Now that smelly seems to be a bit more house broken, I feel some need to focus more on hobbit’s issues........

As near as I can tell, hobbit is coming out of the Pythagorean tradition.  

So I was reviewing my meager knowledge of Sammy P.......

I’m more of a Parmenidean, so it was interesting to learn that Elly P was strongly influenced by Sammy. As a physics student, Sammy was in my blood.  

But I’m thinking that there’s something that hobbit is not being honest about......

Before Sammy was hijacked by the physicists, his big thing was metempsychosis.  

Anything to do with the psyche, hobbit is ignoring.  

How and why is our question.  

The entire pantheist tradition, and smelly, until a few days ago, was ignoring the psyche.

But were they, actually?  Did the West discover the psyche?  

I think not.



(cont......)

A good point about being flexible and adaptable smelly.

Thank you.

dan wrote:Ack,

We all need some kind of structure, I think even smelly is, very slowly, coming to this realization.  

Children, eventually, need something to rebel against...... it is part of maturing.  

Is it possible to rebel against the best possible world?  That may become an issue.  



(cont......)

Haha, ya....that’s a good point too.

I knew my OMF crew, the motley crew they are, would have some sound words of wisdom.

This is all very real and deeply felt.

We just can’t shake off reality, as absurdly as it may sometimes apppear.

Yes

Housebroken huh?

How bout my guests?!

They peed on the Dude’s rug!

He just wanted his damn rug back.

Fuck the rug

I can pick up a new one.

Straight on.

Wow, it's kinda fun watching smelly have a shift the past few days...he's always right there a few steps ahead of me.

Is the psyche a cancer or a chrysalis, that is the question.

If it's a cancer you may have a little bit more room to relax even deeper maybe....

Hmmm...

Strange times.....


One thing that is hitting me strongly is that God is the logos/language/the word and that all words that appear here are one with the source.

Words flow from emptiness and return to emptyiness and are filled with emptiness. Every single word is fully pregnant with emptiness.

Wow!

There is a quiet stillness embedded in everything we say.

Our words are a reflection of the quiet still empty but so full of life and light.

All paradoxes merge together here in I am.

Words are unbelievably powerful.

Good language skills and the ability to reason are probably pretty important things for a God to have.

God is language talking to itself about itself.

You can shine your own light here without losing the center.

You can own I Am with power here.

You can be fully expressive of the light here and let it expand and shine infinitely through space and time.

Shine on!

It's like every word is God and his lover making love.

I’m not ahead or behind anything.

I’m deeply interwoven into realities web.

I was transported to paradise/reality.

Heaven is not a destination, it’s a mirage.

We can’t get real, hard as we try.

Dude, me and my mom really messed shit up, I guess in the best way.

It left me in a state of childhood awaiting my star.

And she came.

She showed mercy.

It takes awhile to work out and I’ll feel it until I die.

You come to see indifference as a tool, when needed, to pry away the barnacles, endure the emotions and rudeness of others, but you can’t live there.

We have a heritage in the west.

If we forget our ancestors, we are lost.

They were there for me.

I feel them and hear them.

I just had to be willing to take some help.

They showed me reality is partly deception, but not in a negative sense, in a whole sense and somehow we come to embrace it, that’s why this is here, to inhabit, not conquer.

One finds themselves running away from meaning and that’s always deception.

Anyway, things tend to work out if one keeps at it.