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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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Immaterialism 4

Post by dan on Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:24 am

First topic message reminder :

This is the continuation of the Immaterialism 3 thread.......

The original topic reminder post http://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t320-immaterialism
should be substituted here......

............
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Re: Immaterialism 4

Post by smelly on Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:44 pm

I didn’t bring my guns to the party.

I was shot at first, my fart is my only response.

By muppets with problems and judgements galore.

Just muppets bein muppets.

Please, back to Job...


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Re: Immaterialism 4

Post by Aaron on Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:45 pm

painterdoug wrote:SMELLY   This is specially for you!  

Its not your fault.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=good+will+hunting++its+not+your+fault&ia=videos&iax=videos&iai=GtkST5-ZFHw

Doug,

You are way off the mark here.

You see a dark cloud where there is a rainbow.

Wink

You don't get the joke!

The joke is on the ones resisting and clinging.



Try whirling maybe?

Wink


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Re: Immaterialism 4

Post by dan on Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:47 pm

Thanks, smelly.......

First I’ll have to review the wiki article....... please give me a few.......
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Re: Immaterialism 4

Post by smelly on Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:48 pm

Please Dan, we are done with dougiepoo’s interevention, back to Job...that should be his stage name by the way.

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Re: Immaterialism 4

Post by Aaron on Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:05 pm

Muppets beware, the Khaleesi (great mother, the Tao) breeds fire breathing dragons.

Bwahahaha!

Confucius once went to Zhou wanting to ask Laozi about the rites. Laozi replied: "As for the things you are talking about - those people along with their bones have already rotted away! All that remains is their words. Moreover, if the gentleman lives at the right time he rides in the carriage of an official; if he does not, then he moves about like a tumbleweed blown by the wind.

I have heard it said that the good merchant has a well-stocked warehouse that appears to be empty; and the gentleman, though overflowing in virtue, gives the appearance of being a fool.

Rid yourself of your arrogant manner, your many desires, your pretentious demeanor and unbridled ambition. None of these is good for your health. What I have to tell you is this, nothing more."

Confucius left and said to his disciples, "As for birds, I understand how they can fly; with fish, I understand how they can swim; and with animals, I understand how they can run. To catch things that run, we can make nets; to catch things that swim, we can make lines; and to get things that fly, we can make arrows. But when it comes to dragons, I cannot understand how they ascend into the sky riding the wind and the clouds. Today I met Laozi, and he's just like a dragon!"
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Re: Immaterialism 4

Post by Aaron on Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:16 pm

Imagine Dragons...

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Re: Immaterialism 4

Post by Aaron on Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:48 pm

A teapot is useful not for what you can see. It is useful for what you cannot see — its emptiness
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Re: Immaterialism 4

Post by painterdoug on Sun Jan 13, 2019 4:08 pm

smelly

its not your fault

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Re: Immaterialism 4

Post by Aaron on Sun Jan 13, 2019 4:23 pm

Yah yah

Time to move on
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Re: Immaterialism 4

Post by smelly on Sun Jan 13, 2019 4:47 pm

painterdoug wrote:smelly

its not  your fault


Go paint a picture and clean the dirt off your back old muppet.

Until next time.
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Re: Immaterialism 4

Post by Aaron on Sun Jan 13, 2019 5:35 pm



Maybe try some dad jokes...
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Re: Immaterialism 4

Post by painterdoug on Sun Jan 13, 2019 5:46 pm

A fine offering Aaron. I enjoyed
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Re: Immaterialism 4

Post by smelly on Sun Jan 13, 2019 6:08 pm

Much resistance from the muppet today.

Sign of the times.

Beer time, cheers!
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Re: Immaterialism 4

Post by dan on Sun Jan 13, 2019 7:40 pm

Job is an important book of the Old Testament.  It prefigures much in the New Testament.  

It came to mind in the discussion of fortune.  

There are many who suppose the we, modern folk, are living past our means, and that we cruising for a bruising.  

I saw this impending misfortune, and it brought me to a stop.  I decided to do something about it.  

There are people here who resent my intervention, and want me to mind my own business.  

I’m an activist.  Some despise activism.  

Conservatives despise activism.  I fully expect the elite to push back.  I didn’t expect anyone coming to something called Open Minds Forum to push back and be obstructive.  

The obstructionists are riding shotgun for the elite, but they have no clue.  

It is the western system that produces change.  It is warfare that forces change.  

Empire building has forced change.  Consumerism comes very late as an engine of change, but it has always been present, to a degree.  

Then there is the idea of ‘progress’, as something nearly inevitable.  This idea is rather recent in our lexicon.  

It is beginning to appear that material progress may be running out of steam, it is certainly running out of fossil fuel.  

Those who foresee the inevitability of progress turn their eyes to the skies.  This has been the impetus behind ufology and OMF.

In the minds of those, I could easily be seen as the main obstructionist. Everything is relative.

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Re: Immaterialism 4

Post by smelly on Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:20 pm

Thank you Dan, very thoughtful, as always.

Nothing needs be done, yet all is accomplished as it should be, know that.

Look who rides the RBull.



“Rushing into action, you fail. Trying to grasp things, you lose them. Forcing a project to completion, you ruin what was almost ripe.

Therefore the Master takes action
by letting things take their course.

He remains as calm at the end as at the beginning. He has nothing, thus has nothing to lose. What he desires is non-desire; what he learns is to unlearn.“

—Lao Tzu
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Re: Immaterialism 4

Post by Aaron on Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:40 pm

There are no obstructions, there is only the way, but straight is the gate and narrow is the way...

I longed to visit the eastern cliff
countless years until today
I finally grabbed a vine and climbed but halfway
there met mist and wind
the trail was too narrow for clothes
the moss too slick for shoes
I stopped beneath this cinnamon tree and slept with a cloud for a pillow
-Cold Mountain
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Re: Immaterialism 4

Post by GrandCru on Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:05 am



Link to Ron Pandolfi & Crew Exposed

The circus exposed!
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Post by Course Catalog on Mon Jan 14, 2019 6:47 am

Yes, it is a circus. The Kooks meet the Spooks.

"Pompeo is a genuine, end-of-days, believer in the apocalypse. It’s a cloud-parting eschatology he shares with Mike Pence, the vice-presIdent."

https://amp.ft.com/content/53087e90-174d-11e9-9e64-d150b3105d21?__twitter_impression=true
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Re: Immaterialism 4

Post by whoknows on Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:05 am



It only really matters to you. Love&Peace. If you can find put it in your pipe and smoke it.

"Walk right out of the machinery"
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Re: Immaterialism 4

Post by smelly on Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:17 am

GrandCru wrote:

Link to Ron Pandolfi & Crew Exposed

The circus exposed!

They cracked it wide open.

Bahahahaha

Crikey, observe the UFO Muppet in its natural habitat, the online forum.

You have to be real careful, during this season they go cannibal.

The UFO Muppet can’t be reasoned with at all.

They are too primitive to use verbal or written communication with.

They do like music, but it only has a temporary calming effect.

They tend to aggregate in large groups or conventions.

The really dangerous ones tend to live up high on mountaintops.

The UFO Muppet rarely comes down once they find a high spot.

You have to be careful what you show them, whatever they see they believe.

Offering them a flight on a spaceship is usually one of the easiest ways to catch a UFO muppet.

The UFO muppet hates any kind of humor.

They are so literal, that humor may kill them.

Next time some tips on care and feeding of the UFO muppet.
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Re: Immaterialism 4

Post by hobbit on Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:35 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFR5EtO_zdM&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR1ptHqd98yMjvhU0VepdnJ9x9EkJ8H8tzv670YyCyd0-6kcw-VmC2-hWQ4

IF?
You are capable of tuning into the desired information, it finds You.
Most humans are veiled and blocked from this ability.

All creation in 3D is a consequence of consciousness that pervades all the dimensions been utilised in whatever desired form.

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Re: Immaterialism 4

Post by dan on Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:43 am

If there is ever going to be a cosmic trigger, the closest we might get is the aforementioned incident last week.  It seems that one of the campers was not so happy with some of the chicken little shenanigans, and took it up with his boss.  At least one voice was raised.  

No, this is not a WHPB or a NYT article, but sometimes a raised voice can be heard around the world, nonetheless.  

There are no Earth tremors or dancing in the streets....... but, still...... would this not be the best possible cosmic trigger?  I ask you.  

Can we all relax, now, smelly&co might wish to know.  Well, I won’t have too much longer to relax.  We may have to have our own little party....... http://www.bestpossibleworld.com/aAquarium/WantToParty.htm
.....just sayin’.......

And it’s not too shabby, for back in ‘97, if I say so, myself.  

I’m not sure when I first grokked on the singular CTC, it could not have been too long after this.  Before the CTC, it was the Ouroboros..... that was early on, I believe.  The Ouroboros must have been nearly synchronous with the BPWH.  

The BPWH must have come soon after the Masquerade gestalt switch of ‘82. It could not have been by more than a few months.



(cont......)


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Re: Immaterialism 4

Post by smelly on Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:16 am

The UFO Muppet is also obsessed with the end of the world...

They can’t live on the Earth.

They want to leave the Earth.

This is obviously a sign of great pain within the UFO Muppet.

A most curious case.

That was a pretty good catch on Barfield Dan, but I have found he is just the rational tip above water of an iceberg much much bigger.

Rudolf Steiner, William Blake and the Jungians are deeper into this than Barfield.

There is a mystical side of this awareness.

The mystic does not compute for the UFO Muppet who can only see the material aspect of this phonomena.
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Post by hobbit on Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:29 am

I would love to know what our UFO friends think of these religious zealots?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SAbJjktk7E

They are clearly a most primitive people.

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Re: Immaterialism 4

Post by dan on Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:38 am

The rational tip......... Hmmm........

That sounds like a high rent district........ I’m with Owen....... I hope they let me in the club.

I think it’s pretty obvious that the j-man is the leader of our little truth squad. That little factoid of history, has set many a tooth on edge.  What are we ever going to do about them apples?  

If you’re looking for the cosmic trigger of the industrial revolution, the idea of progress, you don’t have to find too many bread crumbs, to find the source. Hindsight will be 20/20.

The hobbits of the world may not run out to hug the smokestacks, but, on clear day, they will see eternity.

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