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Bren Burton: Ufology. It's a Jungle. (video)

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Bren Burton: Ufology. It's a Jungle. (video)

Post by Admin on Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:32 pm

Bren posted this to the OMF Facebook page today.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/168566963255649/

UFOlogy. Its a jungle. A highly strange one, at that.
Its highly unlikely that Mulder and Scully will ever find The Truth ‘out there’. Its out there alright. Human history shows that the Truth is all too often not only out there, it’s occasionally so ‘out there’, as to be classified, un-be-freakin-lievable.

Sir Winston Churchill summed up the biggest problem that the pro discloser movement has to contend with: "Men stumble over the truth from time to time, but most pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing happened."

Well, ain't that the truth.

And if Mulder and Scully spend too long, out there, the truth is, its highly unlikely that they will return, at least, not the same people who went in. Its a jungle, and chances of survival, like some of the wildlife who thrive in such conditions, would be best described as an environmental no brainer. its an environment where you need to cut through so much crap you’ll need more than a mundane machete. You’ll need a top of the range essential for cutting crap, Occams Bullchete.. Because, the truth is, if the habitat is dense, thick, and an environmental no brainer in terms of finding the - capital ’T’ - truth; then there are similar issues that apply, likewise, to a small, though disproportionately problematic number of jungle inhabitants. And if the truth be told, it probably won’t be be told by them. In fact, and reason being, they are too busy creating a disproportionate, well, most, of the crap that is, out there.

It’s unlikely Churchill would stumble over The Truth ‘out’ there. He would need to dig at least six feet ‘down’ there, first.



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Re: Bren Burton: Ufology. It's a Jungle. (video)

Post by Admin on Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:34 pm

I don't want to BELIEVE

I want to be fully INFORMED!

DITTO! Salute!

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Re: Bren Burton: Ufology. It's a Jungle. (video)

Post by Jake Reason on Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:06 pm

Wow, Bren!

Cy just brought this to my attention. Haven't watched your video yet, will do now.

A Phoenix Rises?

Quickly found your current abouts;

OpenMindsForum Tube
http://www.youtube.com/user/OpenMindsForumTube?feature=watch

OMFORA
http://www.omfora.com/

About Us
http://www.aboutus.org/OmFora.com

Unaccountability
http://www.omfora.com/unnacountability


comments later.....
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Re: Bren Burton: Ufology. It's a Jungle. (video)

Post by Admin on Sat Apr 06, 2013 7:44 am

More from Bren. This is from my email of his post to the OMF Facebook page.


Bren Burton
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Bren Burton 1:15am Apr 6

Open Minds Forum Omni Res Aperio - OMFORA - Exists for good reason. And, for over 7,000 people between 2005-2012, an important one. That being, rumors about Open Minds Forum demise are wholly inaccurate, misleading, and in some cases, intentionally so. The propagation and seeding of such false information within the UFOlogy, Disclosure and Phenomenology community as a whole, has become a disease which threatens to destroy the various hosts in which it lies (sic). Wherever grass roots public movements become active as forces of resistance seeking change and remedy to situations where corruptions of democracy have become an injustice to the people as subjects under it. When such corruption is maintained, supported and deployed, whether by individuals, groups, agencies, governments or State, it is an abuse of power, an enemy of the people. For the Disclosure / exopolitical and UFO/phenomenology community, Disinformation, like an insidious form of cancer is the enemy within.

If the Truth be known, it should be known by everyone. For researchers of Phenomenology, UFOlogy, Exopolitics, Parapolitics, Extra-Terrestrial Hypothesis (ETH), Ultra-Terrestrial Hypothesis. For investigators, journalists, truth-seekers and open-minded skeptics on the trail of The Core Story of UFOlogy / Phenomenology. For whistle-blowers, disclose-ees, messengers and survivors of the "disturbing message" of Disclosure. And not forgetting the Eschaetologists, Post-Sci.Materialism-Midwiffers, Post-Apocalypse Dr Strangelovers, the post quantum theist, theorist or Jungian Endo-Terrestrial-Sapienist.

An Open Mind seeks no confirmation of belief, of or from, the mind of her / his peers, students, teachers, religions or guru. An Open Mind appeals to no authority, and believe it or not, believes nothing. It is a mind that seeks only to be informed, so that it may know its own.

in the spirit of Disclosure, public interest, freedom of information, archived for transparency, accountability, right to know, and the record.


The truth is not out there. It's here.



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Re: Bren Burton: Ufology. It's a Jungle. (video)

Post by Admin on Sat Apr 06, 2013 7:56 am

What I think I particularly like is that Bren isn't just addressing the culprits of the 2012 near disaster. He's included the culpability of the entire ufology-exo community in enabling such an event to occur.

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I have pointed out on more than one occasion that there were more parties involved in the disaster than the issue between Admins and former members.

There were at LEAST two other parties who's anonymity is assumed to protect them from assignment of responsibility. And those parties wear the trappings of more than one house of governance.

Yes, I will acknowledge their fear and bitterness for the activities of the general population during OMFv.1 There was more than enough blame in all quarters.

But house burning is not an acceptable behavior. Never has been. Never will be.

You who wear the trappings of governance, utilize the principles of integrity endowed in the United Nations when it suits you...was this an example of virtue?

No.

When a global governance is used as a seasonal tool and the virtues of principles are conditional on the circumstances then you yourself become responsible for the diminishment of those tools and enable a further corruption to take hold.

Due to your hand in this the former Admins may never find peace nor mend their differences. And while I understand divide and conquer is the path of the corrupt, I also know that it was never your intention to follow suit...not when you started this journey.

You may thank the Source for it's intervention. Not everything you invested will be lost.



The door remains open for the day you swallow your pride and return to the table...it remains ever round.

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Re: Bren Burton: Ufology. It's a Jungle. (video)

Post by Admin on Wed May 15, 2013 8:24 am

Bren Burton
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Bren Burton 2:39am May 15
Open Minds Forum
If Truth be known - it should be known by everyone.

The truth in-form, as information being accessible to such people with interests it may affect or concern, of transparent, open records, providing accountability by factual attribution of statements and actions, is not 'out there'. It is here. Archived and available as a matter of record and responsibility to fully inform. The truth is, rumor, allusion, insinuation, misleading and with-holding information, is not simply wrong. It is the antithesis of Disclosure, and by iinherent nature, it cannot be exempt from it . The truth is, such rumors about Open Minds Forum demise have intentionally disinformed a massive number of people. Why, is not the issue of importance here. Being informed is.

Open Minds Forum was ranked as the 15th most popular Pro-Boards forum out of tens of thousands they host. Pro-Boards, being the largest service provider in the world, no doubt work flat out trying keep up with the demands and issues that X millions of forum users present. It must be tough. On the other hand, that is how they make their money. It's not a hobby or pastime for them and obviously requires an appropriate level of professional management, system administration and customer services.

After over 5 years good standing, being in top 20 most popular with 7000+ members with X multiplied readership, it was, and still remains, an unbelievably unpleasant shock to discover we were being sent anonymous messages apparently from Pro-Boards Abuse Department alleging OMF was guilty of libel. As the messages contained neither reference or source in order for us to know where, when or how the allegations had found cause to be made, even if we had made a mistake or had been set up with malicious intent, we had no way of knowing what or where it was being published, but more importantly, no opportunity for remedy. Anonymous, meaning - no name or reference to any message - simply one line, curt threat to close down OMF and the sign-off "Proboards Abuse Department." Considering it was maybe an internal circumvention somehow by a prankster using the forum personal messaging system, so we contacted them via email. "We have no information for you. Proboards have exercised their right." - was the response. Still no name. Just, literally, barely a sentence.

Beyond unbelievable. It was simply incomprehensible to then discover the next day, we had been closed down. Without even an email one liner this time. We had to ask them for notification and confirmation ourselves, after finding out that theoutpostforum were publishing celebration posts from those who had, unknown to us, been actively involved in propagating insinuation, allusion and disinformation that would give cause to mislead and incite action that could reasonably be expected to result in injurious damage. How long the plan and intent had been in action, we don't exactly know. But we now know that 'Doc' aka Frank Andrews* had registered the domain theoutpostforum.com back on 15th November 2011. That was some months before we found someone had 'link-jacked' OMF's address / urls and had them diverted to theoutpostforum.com, followed up with the incredible shock of a 'global PM' and cross-board forum Announcement from 'Doc' Andrews* - that he, along with Manuel Lamiroy and Chris Iverson had simply deserted their OMF administration, without any explanation, reason or notice, apart from the new address at theoutpostforum.com. It was unbelievale and a shock that has become a disturbingly unresolved issue with implications for the entire field of phenomenology research and community members.

15th November 2011 - (the significance of the date and who registered the outpostforum.com domain, will become known. It is not only disturbing. It is something I would not, could not, and do not, ever have any need, want, nor care, to comprehend. Let alone give time to try. It's a terrible shame. But it's not mine - it is simply beyond me.) - was some months prior to OMFs takedown and removal.

That, happened. OMF was taken off line. Closed. Removed.

Now removed from Google cache, as of June 2012, nearly all trace had been removed from archive.org - who were alerted, extremely helpfull, and have been able to at least save what does still remain. See: http://wayback.archive.org/web/*/http://www.lucianarchy.proboards.com* But someone wants to remove all record and trace. They are desperate. And determined. But, thank Good-ness, there are other custodians who have ensured those records are available for those who have a right to know. See: http://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/

If this makes no sense, don't worry about it. If it does, then most likely you already have done something about it. But if not, then maybe you probably should,

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Re: Bren Burton: Ufology. It's a Jungle. (video)

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Bren Burton 2:47am May 15
Open Minds Forum Omni Res Aperio - OMFORA - Exists for good reason. And, for over 7,000 people between 2005-2012, an important one. Open Minds Forum
If Truth be known - it should be known by everyone.

The truth in-form, as information being accessible to such people with interests it may affect or concern, of transparent, open records, providing accountability by factual attribution of statements and actions, is not 'out there'. It is here. Archived and available as a matter of record and responsibility to fully inform. The truth is, rumor, allusion, insinuation, misleading and with-holding information, is not simply wrong. It is the antithesis of Disclosure, and by iinherent nature, it cannot be exempt from it . The truth is, such rumors about Open Minds Forum demise have intentionally disinformed a massive number of people. Why, is not the issue of importance here.

The propagation and seeding of false information within the UFOlogy, Disclosure and Phenomenology community as a whole, has become a disease which threatens to destroy the various hosts in which it lies (sic). Wherever grass roots public movements become active as forces of resistance seeking change and remedy to situations where corruptions of democracy have become an injustice to the people as subjects under it. When such corruption is maintained, supported and deployed, whether by individuals, groups, agencies, governments or State, it is an abuse of power, an enemy of the people. For the Disclosure / exopolitical and UFO/phenomenology community, Disinformation, like an insidious form of cancer is the enemy within.

If the Truth be known, it should be known by everyone. For researchers of Phenomenology, UFOlogy, Exopolitics, Parapolitics, Extra-Terrestrial Hypothesis (ETH), Ultra-Terrestrial Hypothesis. For investigators, journalists, truth-seekers and open-minded skeptics on the trail of The Core Story of UFOlogy / Phenomenology. For whistle-blowers, disclose-ees, messengers and survivors of the "disturbing message" of Disclosure. And not forgetting the Eschaetologists, Post-Sci.Materialism-Midwiffers, Post-Apocalypse Dr Strangelovers, the post quantum theist, theorist or Jungian Endo-Terrestrial-Sapienist.

An Open Mind seeks no confirmation of belief, of or from, the mind of her / his peers, students, teachers, religions or guru. An Open Mind appeals to no authority, and believe it or not, believes nothing. It is a mind that seeks only to be informed, so that it may know its own.

in the spirit of Disclosure, public interest, freedom of information, archived for transparency, accountability, right to know, and the record

The truth is not out there. It's here.


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Re: Bren Burton: Ufology. It's a Jungle. (video)

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Bren Burton 2:57am May 15
Open Minds Forum Omni Res Aperio - HTTP://WWW.OMFORA.COM/ - exists for good reason.

And, for over 7,000 people between 2005-2012, an important one.

If Truth be known - it should be known by everyone.

The truth in-form, as information being accessible to such people with interests it may affect or concern, of transparent, open records, providing accountability by factual attribution of statements and actions, is not 'out there'. It is here. Archived and available as a matter of record and responsibility to fully inform. The truth is, rumor, allusion, insinuation, misleading and with-holding information, is not simply wrong. It is the antithesis of Disclosure, and by iinherent nature, it cannot be exempt from it . The truth is, such rumors about Open Minds Forum demise have intentionally disinformed a massive number of people. Why, is not the issue of importance here.

The propagation and seeding of false information within the UFOlogy, Disclosure and Phenomenology community as a whole, has become a disease which threatens to destroy the various hosts in which it lies (sic). Wherever grass roots public movements become active as forces of resistance seeking change and remedy to situations where corruptions of democracy have become an injustice to the people as subjects under it. When such corruption is maintained, supported and deployed, whether by individuals, groups, agencies, governments or State, it is an abuse of power, an enemy of the people. For the Disclosure / exopolitical and UFO/phenomenology community, Disinformation, like an insidious form of cancer is the enemy within.

If the Truth be known, it should be known by everyone. WWW.OMFORA.COM discloses the truth about phenomenology and the business of Disclosure as a community resource for researchers of Phenomenology, UFOlogy, Exopolitics, Parapolitics, Extra-Terrestrial Hypothesis (ETH), Ultra-Terrestrial Hypothesis. For investigators, journalists, truth-seekers and open-minded skeptics on the trail of The Core Story of UFOlogy / Phenomenology. For whistle-blowers, disclose-ees, messengers and survivors of the "disturbing message" of Disclosure. And not forgetting the Eschaetologists, Post-Sci.Materialism-Midwiffers, Post-Apocalypse Dr Strangelovers, the post quantum theist, theorist or Jungian Endo-Terrestrial-Sapienist.


An Open Mind seeks no confirmation of belief, of or from, the mind of her / his peers, students, teachers, religions or guru. An Open Mind appeals to no authority, and believe it or not, believes nothing. It is a mind that seeks only to be informed, so that it may know its own.

in the spirit of Disclosure, public interest, freedom of information, archived for transparency, accountability, right to know, and the record

The truth is not out there. It's here.


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Re: Bren Burton: Ufology. It's a Jungle. (video)

Post by pman35 on Wed May 15, 2013 12:43 pm

Thats good Bren knows bout the archives Smile

Thanks Cy for the posting


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