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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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Word is that something is in the works between MUFON and TTSA. Not sure what it is exactly, but rumor is that it might be a high quality tape that MUFON has been sitting on.
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Post by 99 on Sat Aug 25, 2018 8:57 am

So why has Mufon been "sitting on it"? And what's the real purpose of a major UFO organization and reporting venue like Mufon when they keep compelling UFO information from the public?
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Post by GrandCru on Sat Aug 25, 2018 11:27 am

As I recall, the mention was that it was deemed a national security risk and MUFON agreed to sit on it. I'm not saying I agree with that assessment, just what I heard.

Maybe MUFON upper management acts like HR to US Govt; they pretend to be there for the people, but they're main purpose is to protect the Govt from the people.
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Post by 99 on Sat Aug 25, 2018 5:40 pm

Here's a short YouTube clip of someone calling MUFON to simply find out the country a UFO sighting occurred in. In the phone conversation with MUFON, he gives the case number of the UFO incident but MUFON was not willing to share what country the incident occurred in because they said by doing do, they would be infringing upon the privacy of the person who sent in the report.

That's ridiculous.

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Post by 99 on Sat Aug 25, 2018 6:05 pm

GC wrote:Maybe MUFON upper management acts like HR to US Govt; they pretend to be there for the people, but they're main purpose is to protect the Govt from the people.

Right. Reporting to MUFON is, in fact, reporting the UFO sighting or incident to the gov't where the sightings that are most compelling are determined by MUFON and the gov't to be too shocking for the public to know about. A very unambiguously conclusive video clip of a UFO might cause national security problems if they think that there will be too many people out there who will panic if they saw it whereby causing another Orson Wells "War of the World's" scenario. But we know that there are other reasons why they would not show us photographic material like that and those reasons are self-serving and self-protective for those agencies involved in the ongoing UFO cover-up.

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Post by cwallatruth on Mon Aug 27, 2018 7:55 am

I'm pretty sure I've heard that MUFON employees are thoroughly populated with the intelligence community. Wasn't MUFON founded in 1969, the same year that Project Blue Book ended?

I think the common theme is that official gov't policy is that they don't admit to studying this stuff, so they have to set up separate, "non-gov't" organizations like MUFON or TTSA(?) to do so.
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Post by 99 on Mon Aug 27, 2018 8:13 am

Well, it's obvious that both organizations have gov't affiliations but thanks for pointing out that, in fact, the gov't might have been involved in setting those programs up. We definitely can't rule that out for TTSA but it never occurred to me, until now, that it's the same case with the initial formation of MUFON. But whatever the case may be, the gov't is playing a major role in each organization but the question is... where does that leave us? The general public? I don't know about TTSA but as we have been talking about here in this thread, MUFON has not been forthcoming with probably its most compelling photographic material and that's something that needs to be changed. Good that TTSA has requested MUFON, at least based on some rumors about it, to release one high-quality UFO video to them. If MUFON has one, then we know that there are plenty of other ones too they keep locked up. I find that very troubling.

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