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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    What better way to breathe life back into OMF ?

    GOOD MUSIC ! Very Happy Cool cheers What a Face lol!

    Deep Purple - Space Truckin

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    Post by pman35 Tue May 21, 2013 3:46 am

    @cliff The muppets Bohemian Rhapsody , now thats funny Smile


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    Post by Bard Sun Jul 21, 2013 10:27 am

    Amsterdam

    The Dutch Brigade our last hope of Privacy?
    Ripe for change?



    "Amsterdam"

    I'm sorry, mother... I'm sorry, I let you down
    Well, these days I'm fine - No these days I tend to lie
    I'll take the West train, just by the side of Amsterdam
    Just by my left brain, just by the side of the Tin man

    I'm sorry, brother... I'm sorry, I let cha down
    Well, these days you're fine - No these days you tend to lie
    You'll take the West train, just by the side of Amsterdam
    Just by your left brain, just by the side of the Tin man

    Your time will come if you wait for it, if you wait for it
    It's hard, believe me... I've tried
    But I keep coming up short

    I'm sorry, lover... You're sorry; I bring you down
    Well, these days I try and these days I tend to lie
    Kinda thought I was a mystery and then I thought I wasn't meant to be
    You said yourself fantastically, "Congratulations you were all alone"

    Your time will come if you wait for it, if you wait for it
    It's hard, believe me... I've tried
    Your time will come if you wait for it, if you wait for it
    It's hard, believe me... I've tried

    But the rain won't fall for the both of us
    The sun won't shine on the both of us
    Believe me when I say, that I wouldn't have it any other way

    Your time will come if you wait for it, if you wait for it
    It's hard, believe me... I've tried
    But I won't wait much longer 'cause these walls they're crashing down
    And I won't wait much longer 'cause these walls they're crashing down
    And I keep coming up short


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    Post by Admin Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:42 pm

    The Arizona Sword...an old legend from Arizona




    THE ARIZONA SWORD

    I couldn't tell you the provenance of this local legend that I wrote up and put to music.  It seems to date from Conquistador days, which would put it somewhere before 1690, but it also contains sentiments that seem distinctly post-Revolutionary.  Then again, the Pueblo Indian tribes who threw out Spanish rule in the Great Pueblo Revolt of 1690 had a lot of similar ideas, so the legend really could be that old.  You can get a truly amazing view of history by asking the Indians about their side of the story.

    "Blacksmith make a sword for me, such as none did ever see,
    For ancient symbols of majesty have power in troubled times.
    Blacksmith, make me a magic sword, one that will make me the valley's lord,
    Where folk will hail with one accord to save them from their crimes."

    "Seeing he would not be deterred, the blacksmith took him at his word
    And pondered long on what he'd heard about this would-be lord.
    He pumped the fire and he made his start, melted iron in the fire's heart,
    But he named the steel with an older art the Arizona Sword."

    "He chanted words to the blazing mix, of ancient Red Men's and White Men's tricks
    To draw a spirit, and purpose fix in what the blade would feel.
    The iron laws from Nature's hand, the ruthless will of the desert land,
    The freedom no one can command -- and cast that thought in steel."

    "And when the blacksmith's work was done, the new sword gleamed like the setting sun.
    All down the blade did the old runes run, a warning plain to see.
    The steel was grained like the finest wood, a full yard long and more it stood.
    The runes read, 'I serve but the good of life and liberty.'"

    "Near the hilt, set in copper wire, a phoenix rose up from the pyre.
    A copper star within the fire rayed out copper cords.
    The grip was like a segwaro made that clasped a moon in quartz and jade.
    In truth, like as no other blade was the Arizona Sword."

    "Blacksmith, well have ye served my cause.  This shall aid me to make the laws.
    Hmmm, the guards are shaped like cougar's paws; in truth, like none I've seen.
    The price is steep, but I shall not carp.  She'll sing more praise than a minstrel's harp.
    Ye gods, that blade is razor-sharp!...For a symbol very keen."

    "And cheap She'll be if I strike ye dead!"  The blacksmith promptly turned and fled.
    The lordling laughed and shrugged instead, and went out to meet his horde.
    He cried out, 'This is the day foretold.  Just one hand now this land shall hold,
    for in this sign will I rule.  Behold the Arizona Sword!'"

    "'No more arguement shall we find, but all hereafter shall be inclined
    To just one purpose and just one mind.  Thus do I mean to do.
    Now go ye forth, and take the land.'  The sword heard well his first comand.
    She lunged and twisted in his hand, and fell, and ran him through."

    "They say the sword vanished clean away, for none has heard of it since that day,
    But seek it wisely, and find ye may.  Take care, who would be lord.
    Beware, ye tyrant!  Beware, ye fool!  For who is the master and who the tool?
    Ye may well serve, but ye shall not rule, the Arizona Sword.

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    Post by dragonfly5455 Wed Sep 04, 2013 11:53 pm

    Anything by Lorenna McKinnett
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    Post by Cyrellys Thu Sep 05, 2013 8:42 am

    Welcome to OMF, Dragonfly5355!  Kudos, for a nice first post.

    Loreena is a favorite among us shadow dwellers.  For so many reasons....

    ...and she is a member of the Celtic Revival movement in the Pacific Northwest (US - WA, OR, AK, ID, MT, & BC of C) and quite the musical scholar too.

    In the tradition of the Revival, "may we be restored to memory..."





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    Post by Cyrellys Thu Sep 05, 2013 9:15 am




    Oh night thou was my guide!
    Oh night more loving than the rising sun
    Oh night that joined the lover to the beloved one
    Transforming each of them into the other...






    To the Fairies They Draw Near

    Come away with me now to the sky
    Up all the hills and the sea
    Far beyond where memories lie
    To a place where Im free to be me

    Oh Gather it now one and all
    No matter what folly may do
    Let the stars fill your soul, when the moon cradles all
    So, to yourself be true!

    The blanket of snow is all gone
    Each flower waits for the sun
    And the breeze bring tears of the rain
    Oh Its promise for everyone

    Then come away with me, friends!
    No matter where you call your home
    With the light in your hearts
    We will never part
    No matter how far we roam

    Deep in the forest we go
    Creatures are all fast asleep
    With a kiss and a wink we will waken our souls
    And long is the safety we'll keep

    And then, then we'll dance with the night
    Till the sun peeking sparkle at dawn
    And away we will go
    Like last winters snow
    Soon our work will be done.

    Oh gather it now one and all
    No matter what folly may do
    Let the stars fill your soul, when the moon cradles all
    So, to yourself be true
    So, to yourself be true









    Lyrics
    NEVER-ENDING ROAD (AMHRÁN DUIT)
    The road now leads onward
    As far as can be
    Winding lanes
    And hedgerows in threes
    By purple mountains
    And round every bend
    All roads lead to you
    There is no journey's end.

    Here is my heart and I give it to you
    Take me with you across this land 
    These are my dreams, so simple and few
    Dreams we hold in the palm of our hands

    Deep in the winter
    Amidst falling snow
    High in the air
    Where the bells they all toll
    And now all around me
    I feel you still here
    Such is the journey
    No mystery to fear.

    Here is my heart and I give it to you
    Take me with you across this land 
    These are my dreams, so simple and few
    Dreams we hold in the palm of our hands

    The road now leads onward
    And I know not where
    I feel in my heart
    That you will be there
    Whenever a storm comes
    Whatever our fears
    The journey goes on
    As your love ever nears

    Here is my heart and I give it to you
    Take me with you across this land 
    These are my dreams, so simple and few
    Dreams we hold in the palm of our hands


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    Post by Bard Wed Nov 06, 2013 8:56 pm



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    Post by Cyrellys Sat Jan 11, 2014 6:00 pm




    Lyrics

    The Morrigan dreams old dreams of flight
    The Morrigan sees with another sight
    The Morrigan builds with flesh and bone
    and The Morrigan fills an empty throne

    The Morrigan fills an empty throne
    The Morrigan builds with flesh and bone
    The Morrigan sees with another sight
    and The Morrigan dreams old dreams of flight

    The Morrigan knows your time and place
    The Morrigan shows your shifting face
    The Morrigan stands behind your skill
    and The Morrigan sows and reaps at will

    The Morrigan sows and reaps at will
    The Morrigan stands behind your skill
    The Morrigan shows your shifting face
    and The Morrigan knows your time and place

    The Morrigan chooses when to rise
    The Morrigan views without her eyes
    The Morrigan sees with another sight
    and The Morrigan dreams old dreams of flight

    The Morrigan dreams old dreams of flight
    The Morrigan sees with another sight
    The Morrigan views without her eyes
    The Morrigan chooses when to rise


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    Lyrics Excerpt:

    Nothing to see, there's nothing to see, there's nothing to see here...
    Nothing to see, just look away, there's nothing to see here...

    I see your symbol is the English oak tree,
    Is that your idea of irony?

    Now thousands of eyes will fall upon you,
    Each watching closely what you will do,
    All are ready to spoil your game,
    For the blood of an outlaw flows in our veins!

    (Chorus)

    If you thought that we would do nothing you've misunderstood...
    For we are the Sons and Daughters of Robin Hood!

    Damh The Bard


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    Post by Cyrellys Sat Jan 11, 2014 7:01 pm




    The Sun Is Also A Warrior - Lyrics

    Leslie Fish (c) 1986

    Two men walked on the beach in the sun.
    One left footprints, the other left none.
    One was a man who no man obeys;
    The other a god from the ancient days.
    "Look," said the man, "how my kind make war.
    I summonned you here to ask what for."
    "For wealth or land," the god replies,
    "For life, or freedom, or some king's lies."

    CHORUS:
    "The sun is also a warrior.
    Knowledge can also destroy.
    Nor can the kindest will,
    Preserve you from the kill.
    Not all of wisdom brings joy."


    "Four of those five," the first one said,
    Are not enough to appease the dead.
    To save my world all this strife must cease,
    So now I bid you to conjure peace."
    The god said "Yes. Though it grieves me sore,
    For I was also a god of war,
    And I remember what you forget,
    Four of those five you may still regret."

    CHORUS

    He raised his voice and he raised his hand.
    All strife stopped at the god's command.
    No voice ventured an angry word,
    No hand struck and no weapon stirred.
    In time, the man called the old god back.
    "Look," he cried, "what my people lack!
    One lord rules over all the earth,
    And we're all his slaves from the hour of birth."

    CHORUS

    "Look, he owns all wealth, and he owns all land,
    We starve and die under his command.
    He speaks the truth and he gives us peace,
    But all that I hope for is our release."
    The old god said, "This is what you willed.
    For only thus is your wish fulfilled.
    War's five sources I took away,
    Yet I will give four of them back today."

    CHORUS

    He raised his hand and his voice once more,
    And all the world overturned in war.
    And when the last of those fires let fall,
    There was no lord in the world at all.
    "Go rebuild now," the old god said,
    "Feed the living and bury the dead,
    And remember this when you speak of war,
    And think upon what is worth fighting for."


    CHORUS


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    pman35 wrote:@cliff The muppets Bohemian Rhapsody , now thats funny Smile

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    Post by Guest Fri Jul 08, 2016 11:27 pm

    An outstanding Quebec hit in the surf and hot rod instrumental category: Mer Morte, '64, Jaguars, Tournesol label, composed by Jean-Guy Cossette.

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    Post by Guest Sun Nov 06, 2016 8:42 pm

    As lovely as she plays. Fabulous mixture of Shadoogey (contraction of Shadows' Boogey) and Guitar Boogey. The former is from '61 by the Shadows. If it sounds familiar, it's because it's motif that occurs in many songs like Religion and Glory (aka A Wonderful Time Up There, aka Gospel Boogey), music and lyric by Lee Roy Abernathy, '47, recorded in '48 by his Homeland Harmony Quartet, and later by Johnny Cash, Johnny Mathis, and especially Pat Boone in '58 who popularized it.



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    Post by Guest Mon Dec 05, 2016 2:28 am

    Dreamiest, most beautiful romantic instrumental by a Canadian composer (Johnny Cowell).

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    Post by Guest Fri Dec 09, 2016 2:13 pm

    Super '60s girl group from the Quebec City region comprising Diane Gallichand (lead guitar), Claire Gallichand ( bass guitar), Carole Boutin (guitar), and Ginette Douville (drums) doing a superb French version of a Beatles hit, which should be Allo, bye bye.

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    Post by Guest Sun Dec 11, 2016 3:00 pm

    The Miladys were Quebec's top girl group, and were made up of the Lavasseur sisters (again the a is short), Hélène and Andrée, and Denise Biron.

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    Post by Guest Wed Jan 04, 2017 6:31 am

    In anticipation of the 150th anniversary of Confederation.

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    Post by Guest Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:48 am

    2017 is also the 375th anniversary of the founding of Montréal (mõ-řĭ-ăl')(I can't use the IPA font, but the correct IPA symbol for the short a is æ and for the short i it is the Greek letter iota), where I was born. It was preceded by Hochelaga, meaning ''grand rapids,'' an Iroquois village at the foot of what was dubbed by Champlain as mons realis. It was founded in 1642 as Ville Marie by the Société de Notre-Dame (nŭtřə-dăm, which can be anglicized to nŭtrŭ-dăm), and later called Montréal. It was incorporated as a city in 1862, and it was majority English from 1835-1865. It is now the 2nd largest majority-French city in the world and called the Paris of North America.



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    Post by Cyrellys Thu May 18, 2017 2:12 pm



    God Bless the Grass, from the album "It's Sister Jenny's Turn to Throw the Bomb" sung by Leslie Fish and others.


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    Post by Cyrellys Thu May 18, 2017 2:19 pm



    Song: I'll Never Go Drinking with Michael Again!
    Source: SCA bard - backstory in vid.

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