Cy,
I continue to very much appreciate your continued hospitality, here, at OM II, and especially the attention that you are able to give my paltry offerings.
And, yes, I have been known to use 'poetic' license as a debating ploy...... tending to overplay distinctions as a pedagogical tactic. But, if my debate partner calls me on this ploy, I will readily concede, as I am attempting to do here.
So, no, I never have taken you to be a materialist. I do happen to know that there are only about a half-dozen professed materialists, in the whole world, and, when I last checked, you were not numbered amongst those loonies, or, more technically speaking, amongst those self-proclaimed Zombies!
Nonetheless, you and Jake do sometimes seem to suppose that our mundane existence should be our ultimate concern. And I will readily concede that, amongst all the spiritual traditions, Xianity takes this world much more seriously than do any of the others. I am glad for that..........
BUT, we can sometimes take a good idea too far, and I believe this to be the case, especially amongst us modern minded folks. I am only attempting to offer a 'slight' correction to what may be an historical imbalance.
And, yes, I do like to think that I have a line on the almighty, but I may not be the only one!!
Also, I do believe that virtually every last one of us, humans, not counting the half-dozen materialists, shares a deep belief in the ultimate efficacy of love. All I'm trying to do is rationalize this cosmic love.
And here's the deal with cosmic love.......
It is nothing, if not reciprocal. It is nothing, if not omniscient and omnipotent. These imply, very strongly, that panpsychism and pantheism are true, and that materialism is false. Very few in the world have ever quibbled with these general notions, although most of us do not dwell upon them.
Where differences have arisen has been in reference to Creation, but recent advances in science have provided very strong evidence for fine-tuning or anthropics, even though virtually no professional scientists have publicly proclaimed this significant point.
Therefore, there is a great preponderance of evidence to the effect that pantheism should logically lead us into deism, at the least.
What then becomes of love? How does love enter into the cosmic Design.......?
The answer to this ultimate question is excruciatingly obvious...... If you and I are anything more than God's toys, then we are the co-Creators of our world. Even, or especially, the pantheists agree with this conclusion, even though they do cast it in a negative light, by referring to the world as our burden of karma.
How then are we able to participate in the creation of the world? Partly this is through the sweat of our brows. BUT, and I can think of no reason to disagree on this second obvious point....... it is mainly through our spiritual power that we are creating this world.
IOW, the world is much more like a great idea than a great machine, pace Newton, Descartes, etc.
So, with the BPWH, all I'm trying to prove is what virtually everyone else already believes. So why do I seem to be struggling? It's mainly just that I'm struggling with my own demons, and projecting them onto others. That's all. It happens to the best of us, or so I'm told.
Is it not time, now, to declare victory? Sure, why not? I hereby declare victory for the BPWH, on this sixth day of November, in the 2,012th year of we know whom. That victory, and $4.75 plus tax, will get me a cafe americano in Times Square..... What a day for a day dreamin' boy.......
What a day for a daydream
What a day for a daydreamin' boy
And I’m lost in a daydream
Dreamin ‘bout my bundle of joy
And even if time ain’t really on my side
It’s one of those days for takin' a walk outside
I’m blowin’ the day to take a walk in the sun
And fall on my face on somebody's new mowed lawn.
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What I have just stated would be taken as blasphemy, amongst most of my fellow Xians. But, if you stop to think about it for even a few minutes, you will realize that to deny our cosmic partnership is the only unforgivable sin. Yes, it is to deny the Holy Spirit!
Deny Jesus, if you will. Deny the Holy Spirit? Never!
Wonderful!
But what about this co-Creatorship? Should we not read the fine print wrt this final Dispensation?
Fine print......? It's much more like a punch in the face. Hey, been there......
It is to say that you and I are not even slightly redundant, within the cosmic scheme of things.
You and I are not even slightly expendable, now are we?
But how can this possibly be? The universe is so big, and we are so small!
Yes, the simple point is that we cannot possibly be the co-Creators, unless these appearances are very deceptive. And just this is, finally, our biggest obstacle to embracing the BPWH, should we so desire.
But how big is this final obstacle? Well, if truth be known, it is not very big at all. It is something that we used to discuss, frequently, back on OMF I. It was about the ETH vs. the UTH. For example, you might try this link.......... http://theopenmind.freehostingcloud.com/index.cgi-board=dansmithsom&action=display&thread=3653.htm.
Hmmm........ That link seems to work only sporadically. Let's try this one...... http://theopenmind.freehostingcloud.com/index.cgi-board=dansmithsom&field=ordertime&order=desc&page=3.htm
Ok, the latter seems to work a bit better. If you then scroll down to the middle of that page, you will see the thread that I'm referring to. Then try to access it manually, and see if it works. Isn't technology wonderful!
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Why is the ETH vs. the UTH such a big deal......?
Well, right off the bat, an 'official' acknowledgment of either hypothesis would constitute an MoAPS, which paradigm shift would necessarily be of biblical proportions. How so......?
ETH..........
If this were to finally be acknowledged by the PtB, it would open up a veritable can of worms...... politically, scientifically, religiously, philosophically, etc. It would, by the lights of believers and skeptics, alike, be the single biggest revelation in our history. No?
UTH...........
Not such a big deal? Not on first sight, but let's consider it, further......
Look, almost everybody already believes in ghosts, other that a few of the thoroughly modern Millies. So, no big deal. Well, I'm not so sure about that.
The Scientific Establishement goes to very considerable lengths to deny the paranormal. Some may wonder why.
I think I know why...........
It is simply because the modern scientific worldview has no room for ghosts. And I don't mean that in any vague sort of way. Allow me to rephrase it........ Our modern worldview has ZERO tolerance for uncorrelated phenomena.
Hmmm....... Touchy, touchy! Yes, indeed! Again, why? Because, scientific materialism is a lot like a balloon....... one decisive 'prick' and it's all gone! This is why there has been, ever since day one, zero tolerance for uncorrelated phenomena. If there ever were to be an 'official' acknowledgment, the Scientific Establishment would be giving up the ghost! It would open up a can of worms, at least as big as the one that would be opened up by a flying saucer landing on the White House lawn. No?
Consider this.........
If, in fact, the UTH is correct, and the ETH is incorrect, then, very clearly, the ultra-terrestrials are attempting to masquerade as ET's.
Why would they be performing such a masquerade?
There is only one reason that has ever made sense to me.........
There is a cosmic conspiracy to prepare us for an eschaton.
IOW, there does exist an MJ12.
MJ12 serves as the cosmic mission to Earth. The Visitors, and, particularly, EBE1,2&3, are the cosmic ambassadors to this Mission. Secrecy is being maintained. After the maintenance of total denial, the primary cover story for this eschatological mission is an ET contact story.
2:30------------
But, wait, why should we associate ghosts with the end of the world? Ghosts have been around forever. What is special about their being here, now?
What is special is that these particular 'ghosts', EBE1,2&3, are, yes, on a mission. If they exist at all, they have made a very concerted effort to deliver a very secret message to the PtB, via MJ12. This message has been leaked to the public in a rather particular manner.
Rick Doty, the 'falcon' of the aviary, delivered the message to 'sunfish' of the aquarium, on or about 1995, I believe it was. The message.......? 'Distrubing'. Nothing more, nothing less.
KIM, that, in the Fall of '91, I had introduced myself to 'pelican' as the 'holy ghost'. Telling him that I was here to announce the end of the world.
Hmmm......... How does this differ from little boys playing make believe? From the outside, it would be difficult to tell the difference. From the inside.......?
Well, there was just one primary point where this rubber may have met the road. That was my visit, also in ~1995, to Chris Straub. This is a visit that I have mentioned on several occasions.
If this were just some kind of a joke, then it is a joke that has been carried rather far....... rather too far, some folks might think. So why is it still being allowed to be bandied about? Is there no way to put the kibosh on it? Why not fire pelican. Well, TBMK, he has been removed from any previous official chain of command, i.e. he has been relegated to taking out the trash, and I do mean that, quite literally. End of story? Hmmm..........
So that's all I have to show for my 35 years of laboring under the guise of a 'holy ghost'....... being the former BBQ-buddy a spook, who has been assigned to the trash detail, and my having heard about a 'disturbing' message from a former Air Force sergeant, whose last known assignment was KP duty, at Kirkland AFB.
But still I keep singin', from mornin' 'till night...... Ride around little doggies.......
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Pretty sad, huh?
Well, rack my little brain, though I have, I have not come up with a better scenario for announcing the eschaton, than one that looks rather like this. Can you? One significant problem would be finding another guise and other players for the R&D show.
But the message does not seem to be getting through, now, does it? But, see, the biggest 'variable' in this whole shooting match is the timing. When is the 'fat lady' supposed to sing?
That particular decision may or may not be above my pay grade. Even if it were not, I would still be the last one to be informed about the logistics of it. Think about it......
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