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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    The past is the past, we are here now.
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    Post by U Tue Oct 18, 2022 10:06 pm

    It's here in the general discussion section for posterity.
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    Post by U Tue Oct 18, 2022 10:44 pm

    "Fore has asked for a reason and that it is optional."

    Who should be the SoT?

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Oct 18, 2022 10:46 pm

    No person could ever be the SoT.

    We all see dimly.

    The blind follow the blind.

    Posterity is on its own.
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    Post by U Tue Oct 18, 2022 10:50 pm

    Who do you think Zues was?

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Oct 18, 2022 10:58 pm

    It doesn’t matter what I or you think.

    Zeus whispered that in my ear.
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    Post by U Tue Oct 18, 2022 11:00 pm

    Ha!

    He would...

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    Post by U Wed Oct 19, 2022 10:59 pm

    "Topic: RAM : Truth or Dare"


    Obviously Gordon Novel is out of his mind, delusional and cannot be trusted.


    On Jan 12, 2010, at 1:43 PM, Gordon Novel wrote:

    Dear Dr. Pandolfi:

    RAM GRAVIONICS Group is seriously entertaining the prospect of suing for billions in Federal Court the MJ-12 apparat and or Navy Space Command for tortuous interference in what we collectively perceived for the last 7 years since submitting the still publically secret "SCS REPORT" was the legal nature of our long business relationship and their other perfidious criminal acts to prevent the RAM GRAVIONICS developmental program and long 63 year over due UFO disclosure process.

    We can prove MJ-12 exists with witnesses and documents as well as the potentially Utopian causing ARV anti-gravity and free energy condition for our world. Proving our long close relationship with your "company" is easy. Proving what we have been trying to do with you and others that this huge criminal conspiracy is blocking that we can and will still do is much easier.

    You have not done anything I know of substantive et.al. to recover my RAM data loaded computer, my irreplaceable via Adm. McConnell personal property and lots of other invaluable National Security RAM documented data very clearly stolen in early December by fraud at Desert Self Storage, my cars seizure with bogus Majic hack created parking tickets, and lots of other personal property stolen by DHS PB CI operatives in TEN unacted up on filed criminal complaints and proving this all has happened is falling off a log.

    Moreover, you haven't followed through a scintilla on preparing Spielberg's invitation to meet with you after a great expenditure in time, effort and money to prepare our PB-EO film production Disclosure presentation plan to him and a retinue of famous film makers we are now actively seeking to join an unfixable and politically undefeatable alliance to make this film of the greatest story never told. We would not have done this seminal production work preparation without your encouragement and support in doing so for the past few years.

    The Murad, Boardman and Sarfatti attacks on RAM and myself in the last 120 days also could have been avoided had you so desired. I made 3 trips to D.C. in 09 to meet with you in pursuit of objectives you encouraged that were objectives which were not attained at some serious costs and losses to RAM. Murad is insidious, Boardman is deceitful and the last trip you arranged and then studiously avoided mediating was decidedly dangerous to me IMHO.

    The Coast to Coast and Pippin TV shows I would normally be briefing you on beforehand are now going to be presented in accord with our immediate legal plans instead of our appreciations of normal RAM based National Security considerations. Spielberg will reportedly be back in a week or so from his shoot in Budapest.

    We have the corporate jet use agreement to take him, George Lucas, Roland Emmerich, Ron Howard, Coppola, the Weinstein brothers, and James Cameron, et.al. to meet with you, John Podesta and or Potus Chief of Staff Raam E manuel about the making of this film.

    To restore our relationship to what it was before Murad sold the now easily provable bogus Searl Russian rig scheme to Morgan, we require our property be returned and the now overdue letter tendered to Steven Spielberg.

    I now have the research science documentation by Astronautics Laboratory (AFSC) Air Force Space Technology Center to prove what Paul is doing is fraudulent with Searl/Godin Roschin and that he knew it long beforehand.

    Depending on the tenor of our next conversation and proof of prompt action taken on recovering my property that Majic's agents engineered, the theft of - our long relationship is about to enter uncharted and obviously very controversial waters,

    We CURRENTLY have NO INTENTION whatsoever in suing either you or the "company". Suing Murad, Boardman, Sarfatti, Desert Self Storage, Shaheen, DHS city and PD and MJ-12 as witting or unwitting co-conspirators acting in combination in one hell of a lot of illegal criminal acts is now a very likely foregone conclusion. Rumsfeld's statement about the missing two trillion at DOD can become a very big issue if the fix in the national media comes unglued on C to C.

    I don't expend a lot of money and obviously dangerous very hard work over five long years to watch it go down the drain over B.S., insanity and treachery and not strike back when I am ready. I am nearing ready and will be seeing Ramsey and the rest of the RAM legal TEAM shortly to prepare our corporate Federal Court action. I have found a benefactor to help support what could be very expensive and publicity wise more than extremely unpleasant litigation for all these defendants.

    I recommend your first call to the thieves at Desert Self Storage be on the top of your agenda. They are still refusing to disclose what they did with my property they stole including the RAM/CIA related materials, files and engineering blue prints on the Nation's No. 1 National Security secret.

    These facts and what they portend for history should make for great interview information for the public, some co-conspiring law enforcement and city officials in DHS and L.A. and other news medias on Coast to Coast Sunday Night. See you in the funny papers.  


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Oct 19, 2022 11:35 pm

    Irrelevant muppet nonsense.
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    Yup
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    Post by U Wed Oct 19, 2022 11:50 pm

    Re: RAM : Truth or Dare

    Why doesnt Gordon Novel go to the New York Times or The Washington Post with those bigshot film directors in tow with him?

    He will just be treated as yet another tinfoil head on C2C right?

    Fireworks? more like another fizzer :-/  


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    You know, it occurs to me, a mere student of the of the subject matter at hand, that history is repeating itself, and it is only a matter of time before others spot the pattern of repetition, and therefore understand the secret that is really being kept here.

    The names change, but the dance remains the same.

    Puharich, Einhorn, Geller, Swann, Hutchison, Novel, Sarfatti, Smith, Greer, all players in the game, but how many know of the players before them, and moves that precede theirs?

    Serious question here Dan, how long do you think that the hundredth monkey can be kept in the dark?

    Because that's the tipping point isn't it?

    Razz

    Apologies for the cryptic nature, but I think I at last, understand, I mean who really wants to be the one that tips the scale? - I see why Andrija bottled it first time around, and why the game is played the way it is.
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    Post by U Tue Oct 25, 2022 10:06 pm

    Perennial Traditionalists...

    RAM : Truth or Dare

      Yes, Ron needs Gordon to protect him from Chicken Little!

    Yes, sports fans, the ET-huggers barely know Gordon, but he is just about to take down the entire ET Space-time-fleet with just a few of his undeleted expletives, on C2C.

    I'm wringing my hands in anticipation. Disclosure is coming well before 11/11/11!

    And Ron, bless his heart, is not running for cover. He bares his chest, waiting for Zeus to hurl his lightning bolt.












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    Re: Michael Lee Hill - Meeting with Annunaki


    The Greys are the Anunnaki "helpers/workers", they cary out genetic work for the Anunnaki

    I must tell you, I have never read much on the Anunnaki, I had heard of Planet X but never gave it much thought really, I figured if it was real, It will one day be present in our Sky, so I took a "time will tell" approach to the whole subject.
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    Post by U Thu Nov 03, 2022 11:24 am

    Re: Michael Lee Hill - Meeting with Annunaki

    Annunaki Contact Case
    By Ed Komarek
    9/23/11

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    My blog: [link to exopolitics.blogspot.com]

    Many people may be familiar with the Lake Erie UFO sightings that have been getting plenty of mainstream press attention. [link to www.alien-ufos.com] and for some Lake Erie UFO history try this link.

    What most people don�t realize is that what Michael Lee Hill and others have been videotaping over Lake Erie is but the surface features of something much deeper, a developing Annunaki contact case. I have become involved in this case because I have been gathering cases that support the claims being made by Ar Bordon of not just contact with several types of extraterrestrials, but of attending annual meetings attended by earth humans and extraterrestrials, many who are human like ourselves.

    What I am doing is all part of the process of not only identifying the different ET races interacting with earth�s humanity, but also working to determine the motives and agendas of the different races some that are covertly involved with global governments and military on an ongoing basis. This spring I traveled to Nevada, specifically the Indian Springs area next to Nellis AFB to try to find more cases to back up parts of Charles story relating to his experiences with a type of human ET called the Tall Whites. I was successful in doing so and proved to my satisfaction that indeed the TW do exist and that Charles has accurately portrayed something of the motives and agenda of this race of ETs. [link to exopolitics.blogspot.com]

    I also had the opportunity to interview Clifford Stone and Charles on this trip giving me even more information on various ET types and something of their motives and agendas. Charles told me he has also met a Tall Grey in the desert and at their base at Area 55 at Nellis. The TW have their base up in the range area. I have been able to get a pretty good picture of what the agenda and motives are of one of the types of Greys that most are familiar with who abduct people to steal eggs and sperm to create hybrids to infiltrate and influence our society to their own ends. I am working on building up profiles of other human ETs including those known as Nordics.

    I have not paid much attention to the Annunaki and their operations on earth, until I got to know Ar Bordon and set about trying to see if I could find cases that would back up his story. I recently wrote up a small Facebook note as follows:

    I got Ar Bordon's permission to post this in order to clear up some misperceptions about him and give folks an idea of what he is about as best I can tell. He said it was accurate and concise.

    Ar Bordon (pen name) is the most public individual node in a network of people who have had direct contact with various individual extraterrestrials and groups, both of a human nature and non-human nature. This exopolitical network, in which Ar is a part, has direct face to face and telepathic contact and communication with ETs but is independent of National military and intelligence groups. Its parallel is the emerging exopolitical community that is much larger, but mostly without the extensive direct access to extraterrestrials as does Ar�s network.

    This network does liaison with the military and intelligence agencies involving issues of National Security when considered necessary.

    The members of this exopolitical network have backgrounds with corporations, military and intelligence agencies, but the group works independently and negotiates as a loosely knit operation to identify and to understand the evolution, motives and agendas of a rather large number of extraterrestrial races and civilizations and their interactions with earth humankind.

    These direct interactions include several types of humans that closely resemble us enough to interact with us on the street without us knowing who they are. Other types of humans we would recognize as different from us if met on the street. Types that are not human include several kinds of Greys, several types of beings with Reptilian ancestries and insect ancestries and others including machine intelligences, robots, etc.

    The big picture is of a well-populated universe of space faring beings of very diverse nature, some who have taken an interest in Earth affairs for a number of reasons as it is profitable for them to interface with us out of self-interest and cooperative interest. End

    Now keep in mind that I have other friends and associates that like Ar are embedded in networks of relationships that have been built up over a lifetime. This is how people like Clifford Stone and Charles Hall keep up with developments inside and outside of government.

    I got a real break in backing up parts of Ar Bordon�s experiences when I met Michael Hill through Facebook. There is a lot of information being conveyed to Wes Penre who has just told me he has written a book that includes much more information given by Michael and he hopes to have it edited and available in a couple of months. The following is some of the information I would like to get out in the public domain right away for those with an interest in documenting and researching Annunaki contact cases.

    Ed, during that first meeting with "Them" which I believe now to be the Marduk led remnants, the Boyd Bushman subject was brought out first, and it was not done in a gentle way, Their Fangs came out if you know what I mean. This leader figure told me he worked for a group of people who decided what will be released, That he was an actual family member of the J. Allen Hynek Family and this family was still in control of what is released, and the Boyd Bushman info was not on the list, he asked me how this Boyd info came to be released. [link to www.youtube.com]

    I told him I willed it into manifestation and I thought it was BS that this info was being withheld from humanity. Well they found me hard to scare and the Leader Anunnaki figure stated, Michael, We need to know what you know and they brought these wands that have what looked like a bright purple LED at the end of this, and it seemed almost to be kinda like a laser pointer. He pointed it directly at my 3-rd eye.

    As A.R. communicated to me�,"The �mental� procedures you said to have been exposed to, involving light etc., are far more commonly used now and there are other ways besides lie detectors to know whether and what I person does or does not know." Well this "Mind Probing" changed the whole course of this unfolding meeting. The meeting went from interrogating me over the Boyd Bushman info to all of a sudden this leader figure becoming very excited, Stating Oh My God, you are one of us! How did you come to be here?

    We have been waiting for you to have a council meeting; we can do that right now if you please? I said regarding what? They said it would not be long until there would be another planet visible in our skies and they wanted to talk about what effect we believed this and the Anunnaki revealing themselves would have on humanity? I will finish this in another post.

    I was told that this being I was sitting before was a "King" of the Anunnaki. An Actual name of this man was never given but after all that went down; my own guess is Marduk of The Anunnaki.

    He went on to tell me that he was what is known as the Anunnaki, and that I am also a part of this Anunnaki family and it was a great synchronicity that I was "LED" there because now a meeting could commence between us all, over a "Change in Anunnaki Leadership" and there would be a new time arriving for mankind and a new "Game plan" needed to be discussed.

    They told me the truth of the situation was that another member of the Anunnaki and I had incarnated into this lifetime as a humans in every way, to be here for these changes.

    The Anunnaki Loki then intervened and said I have spoken with Michael already and he believes as I that humanity is ready for open contact and that Humanity should have the chance to evolve into a Galactic society, They are ready. I then spoke up and backed up why I believe the masses are ready for first contact. I told them the exact same thing I have communicated to you already, that I believe that without the bondage that has kept the human race in survival mode, that humanity would & could reach it's true potential. Loki & I teamed up on the "Give Humanity a chance to show their stuff, we are ready" bandwagon.

    This male on the Bed (Marduk) said, well, it must be time! If that is what you feel, let�s do it, let�s make it so, I then said...."When?"

    He said Obviously BEFORE 2012, he answered in a tone like he was annoyed by the question :-)

    The next morning I awoke and got out of my tent and poured some water over my head and at that exact moment, I noticed a male and female walking by my tent on the dirt road and I instantly know that was the Anunnaki leader male I seen the previous night only now he looked very Human and he then looked me in the eye and said "Good Morning Commander Michael!"

    He now had a human appearance but you could still see the same sculpted facial features but they were subdued and he also had radiant blue eyes. We spent much of the next day together. He offered to make me dinner, the meal was really good, lamb with Okra and a curry sauce. We talked. I asked him what should be done about the "Boyd Bushman" info being revealed in mine & Sereda's film?

    He said, "Now that they know you are one of us they will not be able to touch you, so don't worry about it." So to say they are part of the group withholding this information is correct but they have also now backed the release of the Bushman info and revealing themselves to humanity. Which is happening as we speak.

    I was once told there was a meeting of galactic leaders as to why the Earth should be helped or not. There were a lot of quick judgments as to leaving the Earth and its inhabitants to their fates of doom and destruction. But there were also those who wanted to help and they couldn't just come here to do it themselves the way they were because it would violate free will... so there was a test given even to the Anunnaki. To be born here on Earth as humans, to be in THEIR shoes so to speak and if they gave in and were corrupted, the earth shall be left to its destruction.

    If they could keep the light and awaken within this nightmare as humans, they can change things and bring about the golden age so no free will would be breached because it would all be done from within enemy territory, from behind enemy lines! This planet is not to fail for it would affect all else because everything is connected.


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    I think everybody should have a plan for saving the world.

    I don't recommend that you try to make one up from scratch. I suggest that you beg, borrow and steal it from elsewhere. That's what I've done, to come up with my little plan.

    I'm inspired to do this mainly wrt my interactions with the folks in the Search for Answers ministry at Grace Fellowship church (GFC/SfA).

    That's where I'll be focusing my attentions, while I use this thread as a background blog.

    Plan #1.) (1977) Get a combined PhD in physics and philosophy, and publish articles about the Anthropic Principle, etc.

    Plan #2.) ('78 - '81) Pester the various academicians and theologians until they finally see the light.

    ('81 - '91) Finally came up with the BPWH, but realized that it would be an impossible sell. I did free-lance computer work, mainly for Sam&Associates.

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    Plan #3.) ('91 - '99) Working with Ron, and with Bill L, on the Aquarium plan (see the timeline).

    Plan #4.) ('98 - '07) Working first on the Aquarium website, and then on the BPW website.

    Plan #5.) ('07 - present) Blogging @OMF.

    Plan #6.) (2/11 - present) GFC/SfA.

    It is Plan #6, which is, hopefully, now beginning to gel.

    Early on, Sam and Ron attended an SfA meeting, and I told Bill about my interest in pushing a John [16:12ff] initiative. Maybe three weeks ago, at a lunch with Bill and John C, they turned down my offer to make a presentation at SfA.

    Not to be deterred, I'll be meeting with David, late Wednesday. He is the titular head of the group, and he gave the presentation, yesterday.

    My pitch to him is simply that I wish to encourage more participation in our meetings. In this regard, I will not be requesting his permission. I'll simply be informing him of my intentions. The stickiest wicket has to do with my designs wrt John [16]. If David doesn't bring it up, I am liable to. I see no reasonable way to avoid that wicket...... certainly not now, not after 34 years of being a wannabe SoT.

    So there we are....... Every last egg is in the GFC/SfA basket. It's do or die, for Chicken Little (CL). How did it come to this? Well, everything else has failed. When push comes to shove, I am going to need a semi-captive audience. It's just about that simple. I am going to need to press the flesh. I love those little electrons, but, when things get serious, the electrons are too easy to ignore, unless you happen to be Rupert Murdoch or Bill Gates, and have more than your fair share of them, at your disposal.

    If worse comes to worst, I'll be served with a court injunction wrt my presence at GFC...... shades of the '90's, when I was playing keystone cops on the local college campuses, not to mention at the Sam Rayburn building, with Ron backing me up on the phone, more often than not. It did keep me (us?) entertained.


    9pm-----------

    With the increased participation in the SfA, I will be attempting to steer the discussion toward the future, and toward the idea of our increased participation in a global salvation.

    Our ultimate questions and concerns are naturally directed toward our prophetic future, rather than toward an 'apologetic' past.

    Our divinely/anthropically mandated participation in science and technology ought to be seen as a preparation for our spiritual participation in the end times. Is this not an essential part of an evangelical mandate?


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    1) Omnipotent Creators - In a dim sky, a bright star was beaming rainbow light down onto a forest clearing. Where it struck the ground a miniature civilization sprang up. Just as easily it erased what it had created. Dream then shifts toward another example of a created civilization built near a waterfall. I was shown some of the people inside its apartments and they didn't look too happy. Message communicated to me was that these people were being psychologically and emotionally tortured by the entities that created their civilization, who thought of these people as playthings. [Before going to sleep I asked to be shown the truth about this existence on earth].

    2) Underwater Matrix - I was exploring a sunny resort town where people were enjoying their leisure time. Decided to take a detour and eventually stumbled upon a dark swampy place. Nearby was a lake filled with water that went down into a pitch black abyss. Some force took me down to the bottom of that lake, where I saw hundred of people naked and chained to the bottom with breathing apparatuses keeping them barely alive -- these were the same people I saw in the resort, and turns out this was their real condition while the resort life was the illusion they were dreaming they were living. [This one came after I requested before going to sleep to be shown yet another truth about reality].

    3) Divine Lights - In a large underground cavern, the floor had one side covered with a glowing colony of lights, and the other side with a dark colony of black fungus. In the dark colony a group of entities made a decision to jet upwards through the cavern ceiling and try to conquer the world above. Members of the glowing colony got alarmed and gathered their forces. I heard the phrases "By the Father, By the Son" as the lights too jetted upwards through the cavern onto the surface world (our world) try and stop what was to happen.

    4) Knightly Pact - I was caught in the mind-grip of something very powerful and humbling that made me cry in its presence with deep nostalgia and recognition. It then showed me a montage of various scenes. The main scene was a knight arriving into the company of others and yelling, "The ark has not been returned, sound out the call!" and then the knights raising their sword in a pact to retrieve the ark. The message was that something had gone very wrong, and an effort by brave volunteers was needed to correct it.

    5) Time War - In the distant future a war has broken out between the forces of balance and the forces of conquest. The latter had escaped into the past in order to manipulate history to give themselves victory. The forces of balance were portrayed as a legion of knights gearing up and marching through a portal into the past (our present). Here they went on their separate ways to carry out their mission, soldiers in a time war. They were guided by an oracle, a mysterious source of help originating from their future.

    6) Remedial Time Bubble - I met Donnie Darko at a furniture store and he told me the shift from 3D to 4D had already taken place, but that we were now caught in a temporary time bubble right at that moment of crossover. The bubble was a reconstruction of the past, a simulation of the years leading up to the shift, with the only thing different being that some people now had something "extra" (spiritual power and intuition) that would give them better success in making more progress by the time they exit the bubble. This way, the shift completes with a better prepared group of graduators than without that remedial time bubble.

    7) Alien Saviors - I was by a Florida beach at night looking up at auroras blazing overhead. Went inside a bar nearby and saw people watching news coverage of alien discs hovering over major cities - the moment of disclosure. Then I found myself in a trailer with a nordic female in a golden jump suit standing next to propaganda posters meant to convince man that these "visitors" were friendly, but the nordic had a cold evil look in her eyes. There were children's books showing kids playing with cutely drawn reptilian aliens and cartoons of the same theme. Next scene was the ground breaking up with lava as volcanoes exploded.  





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    Billionaire Aerospace Entrepreneur tells NY Times about killer UFOs

    "People have been killed. People have been hurt. It�s more than observational kind of data."

    http://starpod.org/news/1006111.htm

    And now this admission, from Dr. Jack Sarfatti to his email list, in response to a discussion of the above story:

    "I was asked by the "CIA" not to pursue the story in 2004, but now Bigelow has allegedly it seems opened Pandora's Box on the story."

    What did Jack reveal? A rumor he heard in 2004 about a "space alien extraterrestrial battle" at Bob Bigelow's Skinwalker Ranch in Utah.

    Soap opera science fiction, or the basis for Bigelow's comments to the NY Times?

    Sarfatti states: "I am not divulging details only the general nature of the remarks. In any case Nick Cook heard them also. Allegedly Jacques Vallee denies the story, but now Bob Bigelow seems to have gone public with it - albeit without the details."  




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    (STARpod.org) -- It took nearly twenty years, but Dan Throop Smith, son of the Harvard economist and Eisenhower Tax Advisor, and descendent of the founders of Throop Polytechnic (today's CalTech), finally exposed his good friend from the CIA over the national airwaves.

    During the second half of Sunday night's Coast to Coast AM, hosted by George Knapp, Smith presented his case for CIA involvement in the disclosure of a "disturbing secret" about extraterrestrial visitors and paranormal phenomena.

    Ron Pandolfi, who has been associated with the CIA, the DIA, and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (according to sources that include the New York Times, the Congressional Research Service, and defense contractor MITRE Corporation), was conveniently out of the country as Dan proceeded to explain why his friend was the government's exorcist.

    Why would the government need an exorcist?

    I suspect the truth is more subtle than Dan's hypothesis of a vast, cosmic conspiracy involving GOD, Dan's personal role in the creation, the explosion in Information Technology, and the CIA.

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    To All Open Minds Forum Members:

    http://open.minds.forum.member.youaremighty.com/

    May you know your Courage is Exemplary.

    Thank You

    *Always Love* Love Always* All Ways*

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    To All Open Minds Forum Members:

    May you know your Courage is Exemplary.

    Thank You

    *Always Love* Love Always* All Ways*

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    Post by Mr. Janus Wed Sep 11, 2024 12:40 am

    To All:

    We have been working and researching several different leads from many different sources, trying to figure just what is really going on with the process of disclosure.

    I have my own theory I would like to share with you. I invite your comments and criticisms and even your own theories on what you think may be behind everything we see going on!

    1.) There are two competing groups out there, the Aviary (made up of ex-Air Force Intelligence) and the Aquarium (made up of ex-Navy). This struggle for control goes back to the beginning of the official US Federal Government recognition, study and research of the UFO phenomonom in 1947, when Navy Intelligence was handed the task by then President Truman. This changed over the years after the Air Force was split out from the Army due to the airborne nature of UFO's. However, the Navy never gave up their own research and attempt to control the projects.

    2.) Both groups are attempting to move us closer to disclosure. The reason for this is that disclosure will happen regardless of the attempts by the USG to stifle it. Too many ex-gov employees, both military and non-military, are in the know and retired from their duties. The proliferation of the Internet makes the disclosure process much easier for these individuals, whether or not they seek anonymity during it.

    3.) The Aviary is the group responsible for Serpo. It is supposed to be a step in the direction of full disclosure.

    4.) Doty and Collins are just two of the many conduits employed for the Serpo information flow, which is why they are sticking to their stories and fight the ridiculous battle over the IP addresses and Doty's law degree. They are just doing their jobs. The unfortunate downside to this is that it is an attempt to utilize "Top Secret" information flow methodology for the purposes of disclosure. This methodogy includes the utilization of "plausible denial" techniques to cover the tracks and paths of the sources. It then relies upon the recipients of the information to pick through it and separate the fact from the fiction.

    5.) Both sides have created various stories to discredit the other side which further adds to the distraction. The ATS Board is an example of this. They are funded by the Aquarium side of the battle, and as such they will do anything in their power to squash the Serpo story and to discredit those involved with it. It does create a situation of "throwing the baby out with the bath water", but they will have wiped the slate clean in order for their side to then come forward at a later date with what "really" happened.

    6.) Seinu was created by the Aquarium so that they can get back the direction and control over the disclosure process. It, like Serpo, is a fabrication. But these are not classic hoaxes; they are more like fables in that they are based in fact and are designed to tell a moral story.

    7.) Ron Pandolfi (code named �Cuttlefish� in the Aquarium) is either heading up or near the top of the Navy Intelligence portion of the disclosure, and currently has Dick Cheney�s ear.

    8.) We have had several EBE visitors, from multiple EBE civilizations, and they have worked with both sides of the military.

    9.) The disturbing �core story� that we hear so much about is that we are indeed genetic descendants of the aliens. We have been "helped" along from both a genetics and a technology standpoint through the ages.

    The above is merely my opinion.

    What do YOU think???


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    ..all the 9-11 stories and stuff going on in the media since on or just before Sept. 1st. Seems like every day on yahoo and the national media there are more and more stories of shoving 9-11 down our throats like never before. Again what is the deal?


    I think something is up. I think it's part of keep digging the claws into the wound to have people go back to the knee jerk reaction and get away from thinking critically and introspectively about what really happened on that day. Not to fail to mention just a general distraction over all.


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    Post by Mr. Janus Fri Sep 13, 2024 1:42 am

    TRUTH is like a virus "the more we are exposed to it the more it will spread"

    GREAT LEADERS OF THE WORLD

    "It takes a great leader to change the world -- a puppet to maintain it"

    Our politicians go into politics with all intentions to "change things", the only thing they change are themselves.........!

    Who can we trust anymore when the people we elect to do our work, work only for themselves.

    Maybe we need new teachers in our world and new types of leaders, because the ones we have now don't seem to be up-to the job.

    If aliens are bad and disclosure is a bad thing - why are we all still here and why are so many trying to keep the truth hidden ?

    Take 4 minutes and watch and listen to someone who has really left this planet.


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    As I stated in Droid's Positive Encounters thread, I intend to share my experiences regarding:


    1) Looking in the mirror and not liking what I saw reflected at all;
    2) Sinking to the depths of despair and hitting rock-bottom in light of what I saw;
    3) Being subtly guided through lesson after lesson designed to teach me how mistaken my perceptions were, both of the world around me and just as importantly, of myself;
    4) The involvement of a collective non-physical intelligence that called themselves the Elohim in all of this.


    I thought of placing this in the blog forum; however, I think it is just as appropriate to commit to it here. I would like to ask the reader to bear in mind that I have only recently decided to share this with other human beings. My first attempts can be found on another forum community; the catharsis of release has been an experience in and of itself. I feel more in command of the flow now, so to speak, and it is my hope that I can communicate what I have been through in a more effective manner to you all.


    I also appreciate the Open Minds forum and what I have found here. Many unique and truly interesting people post here. Thanks for doing that. Smile






    As I related in Droid's thread, I have been noticing strange things for as long as I am able to remember.


    My family wasn't that unusual...amongst our demographic, that is. My father was a lifer in the U.S. Army, spending the latter portion of his career working for a civilian defense agency. My mother had been a WAC (Women's Army Corps) when they met in Fort Sill, Oklahoma, in the early 1960s. He had started out playing trombone in an Army band when he enlisted in 1958; somehow, this changed to joining the Signal Corps and spending time in Iran and Saudi Arabia in 1961. By the time he met my mother at Fort Sill, he was spinning his wheels stateside. That changed after they got married. They went to Stuttgart, West Germany, then to Thailand in 1967. The family went with him to both duty stations.


    Two sisters were already around and kicking by the time I arrived on the scene in 1969 (the oldest had been born at Landstuhl, West Germany, and my older sister was born prior to deployment to Thailand). The family was stateside at this point. My father was an instructor at the U.S. Army Signal school when I was born. After this stint, he decided to get out of the Army. He had his reasons. He wanted to do other things with his life.


    The arrival of my youngest sister changed his plans considerably. He was working for the phone company in New England at the time; the pay was peanuts and not enough to support the family. So, he swallowed his reservations and went back into the Army again. His skills were in demand. He returned to the Signal Corps and from this point on, he began working in unusual capacities. Not long after he returned to the Army he had to ship out to Africa on temporary duty, leaving us all behind at an Air Force base in New England.


    I believe that it was after Africa when my father began working for a civilian agency. This assignment lasted for the rest of his career, which ended in the late 1980s. This meant exotic duty stations not typical to a U.S. Army soldier: stints in Okinawa, Japan, the Philippines (in those days Ferdinand Marcos was still in power), not to mention points all over the Eastern seaboard of the U.S.


    I am not entirely comfortable discussing my father's later military career. While he revealed what he was doing in Thailand during the Vietnam War, he would not under any circumstances talk about anything beyond working in "fixed-station communications" in his later assignments. This is in contrast to my role during my time in the Army: tactical communications. My father was in the rear. Me, I was out there in the field. I could support an artillery battery (my last assignment was with a Patriot Missile Battery), an infantry squad, a Military Intelligence company, a squad of Rangers, or a Special Forces detachment.


    Yes, I possessed a security clearance. I had to. However, my father was much, much deeper in than I ever was. I didn't stick around long enough to go any farther. That's all I'll say about it.


    I am sharing some of my background with you, the reader, because I feel it figures greatly in my experiences. It shaped me, and in a very real way set me up for the present day. I had been exposed to a variety of cultures and locales. My friends were a perpetually shifting cast of characters. I possessed a critical eye. I was in the habit of questioning things. There was no religious or philosophical components that I recall in my upbringing. My father was a disavowed Southern Baptist and my mother was a dormant Roman Catholic. What a combo, eh? No religion in our household. As I learned later on, my father and mother mutually decided to spare myself and my younger sister from such things.


    I was a voracious reader as a child and devoured whatever books I could get my hands on. I pilfered my older sister's sci-fi collection. This included comic books. Spider-man was my favorite. Wink


    The only religious remnant present in the household was a dusty Roman Catholic Vulgate bible sitting on the bookshelf, next to my father's technical manuals and books on communications theory. I picked it up a few times and thumbed through the gilded pages. I liked the color plates. It seemed strange to me, though. My father's books on theory were filled with a great deal of mathematics and illustrations of wave-forms. They interested me more.


    From the earliest days of my childhood, I recall the entities. I would see them in the dark...and sometimes, during the day. I remember one of them from a dream. She was a woman clothed in white. She shined in the darkness of my grandmother's house. She would stand at the landing on the first floor looking up at me. I stood above at the top of the long, old and very creaky staircase, looking down at her. She smiled and waited for me. I would leap in the air and sail down the staircase towards her. I would wake up as I approached her.


    I began having this dream the very first night I spent in my maternal grandmother's house in New England. I was 3 years old or so at the time, I think. I remember that time because the room I slept in was so wonderous and yet so terrifying at the same time. Stuffed animals of all sorts from my uncle's hunting activities were stored in that room. There was a bobcat. A few mounted deer heads. They both fascinated me and scared the hell out of me. I recall that my mother was upset with my uncle for keeping me in there. She said I was having nightmares (according to my mother I suffered from numerous nightmares when I was little). My uncle, however, thought I got a kick out of it. He was for the most part correct. Wink (For reference, this maternal uncle had built this house for my grandmother to live in after my maternal grandfather had passed away. He lived in his own house in an adjacent property)


    Years later I was still having this lucid dream. I think I stopped having it around my 11th birthday or so. It was replaced by other recurring dreams. In comparison, some of these were exceedingly dark.


    One that was not dark: I was floating. I was floating in some sort of strange, featureless landscape that seemed aglow with some sort of soft luminescence. All about me were swirling mists of various colors. As I floated, the mists parted and in front of me was revealed some sort of incredible, indescribable city. I'm not able to describe it clearly...it shined like a jewel. It seemed suspended in the heart of the mists. As I approached, the dream would end. I would have this dream over and over for years, until my late teens.


    Dark dreams: these were recurring as well. They didn't make any sense. One such dream took place in that same sort of featureless, luminescent environment that the "city dream" took place in. Mists swirled around, only these were more uniformly gray rather than colored. I found myself walking through this strange landscape. Mists swirled all around me. Just like the city, the mists began to clear in front of me...and I could make out a chain-link fence in the distance. As I approached this fence, I saw him standing on the other side of the fence. His eyes were horrifying, and bored into me. Waves of terror emanated from this man. I cannot recall his features...all I can recall was the effect he had upon me. I kept walking, until I stood face to face with him, separated by the chain link fence. He stared at me, and I stared back at him. I was frightened, but in an odd way I also felt defiant. I wasn't going to let myself run away. I had to challenge him. The dream ends as I stare into his eyes.


    I had this dream from my pre-teens until my late teens. At some point, a woman starting appearing in this dream. She would be standing beside him on the other side of the fence. She was dark...jet hair, and dark eyes. She seemed amused by what was going on.


    Yet another dream I had was exceedingly dark, terrifying, and lucid. I found myself in the company of a group of people in the den of an old Victorian-style house. It was large, cavernous and gloomy; only the immediate area in the den was lit to any degree. Although I did not know these people in waking life I nevertheless believed I was in the company of friends...everyone was talking amicably. My attention riveted upon a particular person in this gathering. She was tall...the tallest by far in this room...and stood out by virtue of her looks, and platinum blonde hair. She was dressed like an old-fashioned school marm...wearing a grey dress buttoned all the way up to her neck. Her eyes were blue and intense...fierce, even. She was aloof and kept her own company. She rose to excuse herself. At this point I recall thinking she was our hostess, and this was her house. No one seemed to pay the slightest bit of attention to her...except for me. I watched her closely.


    She left the den, and disappeared into the gloom of an adjacent hallway. I watched her because I distinctly felt an unease at what she was doing. I perceived her transforming in the gloom of the hallway...and into the darkness a pair of burning orange eyes rose into the air, at least 8 feet or more in height. She had changed into...something. The eyes rushed towards us all in the den. I cried out as this...thing...emerged into our midst.


    I don't know how to describe it. It was huge, and blacker than the blackest night. It was like a void in the space it occupied. The only clearly distinguishable features were those eyes and rows of pointed teeth. It tore into the people in the den and blood erupted in great showers and a flood of gore. I screamed for us all to get out, and in the chaos a lamp on a corner table fell into an exterior window in den, breaking through. It was our way out. Myself and some others managed to jump through the window. The rest of the people in there...they were dismembered by this thing. It was horrifying.


    We ran...and I found ourselves in a neighborhood at night. We approached a baseball diamond in a little park. We jumped the fence and started running across the grass...and out of the distance of the outfield an old man hobbled towards us. Right away I knew this was the shape-shifting thing from the house, and I screamed out for us all to run. It seemed some of the people I was with were a bit slow on the uptake. The old man changed into the shadow-horror and sliced through them instantly, leaving the rest of us running...


    The dream ends as the remainder of my group were slaughtered by the horror. It comes toward me and I see the fangs in a gaping maw. This is when I wake up. I had this dream a few times in my teens.


    I connected my dreams with the unusual experiences of my waking life. I would sometimes see things that really weren't there. Shadowy forms in the night that were darker than their surroundings. Phantasmal lights and the same sort of swirling, colored mists that I saw in my dreams. I would feel presences. I could feel them both in the air and could sense them in my mind. Later on in my teens, I began to have more distinct experiences with these unseen entities. Thoughts and images began to form. It was communication. I could hear them...and they could hear me.


    I will end this here for now. When I come back, I will continue where I left off.


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