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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by jizba Sun Jan 29, 2017 7:55 am

    In a dog race the dogs chase a mechanical rabbit around the race tract. Now replace the dog by a spacecraft that has a drive that can deform the curvature of local space time. The spacecraft generates a virtual black hole in the place of the mechanical rabbit. As long as the drive is active there is no limit to the speed of the spacecraft.
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    Post by Cyrellys Wed May 17, 2017 10:16 pm

    jizba wrote:In a dog race the dogs chase a mechanical rabbit around the race tract. Now replace the dog by a spacecraft that has a drive that can deform the curvature of local space time. The spacecraft generates a virtual black hole in the place of the mechanical rabbit. As long as the drive is active there is no limit to the speed of the spacecraft.

    Hi Jizba, is this akin to the shortest distance between two points is zero? A simple transfer from A to B...all angles being possible in any given location?



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    Post by jizba Thu May 18, 2017 10:23 am

    Using rockets that rely on thrust by ejecting mass will never give us the ability to travel long distances in space. However, since there is
    credible evidence that space travel by someones from distant stars
    have reached our solar system (as evidenced by numerous images
    obtained by NASA spacecraft, and by evidence of alien spacecraft accidents --such as Varginha in Brasil--, and by accounts in the US
    of alien presence such as the "tall whites") there is clearly a high likelihood of alternate methods of traveling in space. One possibility is that high speeds in space can be achieved by spacecraft that has the capability to distort local spacetime. By doing so the craft falls as if attracted by a high mass such as a black hole. My attempt to explain this has resulted in this particular thread.
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    Post by Cyrellys Thu May 18, 2017 2:02 pm

    Could this also be done by using stars in the same manner as blackholes? I've been wondering, since there is abundant SOHO images of ships (refueling?) in our sun.


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    Post by jizba Thu May 18, 2017 4:26 pm

    My hope is that there are people who understand physics, but may be
    aware that there are still subjects worthy of pursuing and in particular
    those that may bear on the possibility of space travel.

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