The Bible, UFOs, ET and the Ancients Part 3

Jake Reason wrote:animal2012,
I can assure you that all regular members and readers of the Original OMF, know. News of its fall spread throughout English speaking Ufology worldwide.

All professional Ufologers, know. And all their lists and contacts, know. And everyone who is anyone in this field, knows of this forum.

"Forum Media" has simply grown to become passé.

I personally don't believe there could have been any spiritless pre-Adamic beings. If they had "The Breath of Life" then they can't be spiritless.

MD02 wrote:Scarz

I watched it again.

Admin wrote:On Giant Skeleton history at TED
http://beforeitsnews.com/paranormal/2013/03/a-giant-surprise-jim-vieira-why-is-this-information-being-censored-by-the-mainstream-media-2448704.html

ScaRZ wrote:

@MD02 - In bold.

I'm certainly not in the camp of forcing anything on anyone. I'm not about to become a heresy hunter. I try my best to give some understanding to those talking about abductions or encounters at a lower level.

I've never experienced anything in their nature that I have knowledge of. So really all I have are my opinions. I can't say I believe all accounts,because I don't. It's like everything related to UFO'S,how much is nothing more than entertainment,scams,fakes and I don't know how to clean it up so I'll just type it....."BS"?

I really wonder if some abductions have anything at all to do with Aliens.

Me too……

How much are humans in the mix even if Aliens are present?

I don’t think we can answer that at this time – from where we sit.

Are they Aliens or fake Aliens to pull people in that direction and away from humans? Just like a good magician getting you to focus where he/she wants you to focus.

This is a fair question. I ask it often to myself.

As far as back before The Flood in the days of Noah. I view the flood as a judgment on abomination/abominations.

You have labored under the assumption those relationships were ‘consensual’ from what you have echoed alongside of MH, etc. It seems argument leans in that direction. I am not trying to say they were not ‘consensual’.

What I am trying to convey is the current abduction enigma IS NOT CONSENSUAL! People, Christians alike, ‘Claim’ to be taken (or led to believe they were) by various incarnation. How often do you read accounts of the whatever’s agreeing not to ‘take’?

Back to Enoch 3:12-14

12 Then the spirit took me up, and I heard behind me a voice of a great rushing, saying, Blessed be the glory of the Lord from his place.

13 I heard also the noise of the wings of the living creatures that touched one another, and the noise of the wheels over against them, and a noise of a great rushing.

14 So the spirit lifted me up, and took me away, and I went in bitterness, in the heat of my spirit; but the hand of the Lord was strong upon me.

If they were not ‘consensual’ then the (EVE’s) were ‘enslaved’ and ‘used’ and then ‘destroyed’ by the Fathers wrath. At least that would be the logical justification or reasoning. Nothing speaks of His mercy in those tales in freeing the Eve’s from their tormentors – an advanced being – stemming from the fathers own design.

Some time in the future a judgment from God on abomination/abominations will take place once again.

And should the Father repeat such actions next week, with the Adam/Eve’s that still to this day are powerless against a greater creational design of His? I refuse to believe our Mysterious Father would remain idle without enlisting a balancing force. Especially, since Forgiveness has came upon this world.

It's certainly not my place to pour out wrath on God's behalf on anyone or anything. I'm to watch and warn. Many people will not like the warnings and I understand that will always be part of it.

I am not saying you are wrong – in warning. I understand where your heart is. We, man, are a culmination of all that we have learned, or those that have ‘influenced’ us throughout our mortal days.

See part 2
Even Hitler was envied and swooned.

If they were not ‘consensual’ then the (EVE’s) were ‘enslaved’ and ‘used’ and then ‘destroyed’ by the Fathers wrath. At least that would be the logical justification or reasoning. Nothing speaks of His mercy in those tales in freeing the Eve’s from their tormentors – an advanced being – stemming from the fathers own design.

Jake Reason wrote: Abductions accounts of today are not anything like the Genesis/Enoch story.

The Enoch/Genesis reports are that everyone at that time knew about them, it was an everyday fact of life for them. Today's abduction accounts are not.

MD02 wrote:

That was the approximate premise I was attempting to convey.

They knew about them because they were taught about them and experieced them, Unlike our reality today.

My contention was that there is a sweeping opinion in faith circles that anything 'alien' implies demonic or angelic(fallen).

I have a hard time with the fallen stories from antiquity fitting the model abduction phenomenon of today even if there are some common threads.

Todays - 'visitors' seem nothing like that of yesterday. It's late. Perhaps my logic centers need a power down.

ScaRZ wrote:Very interesting. Looks like Francis of Assisi was the original Peter the Roman (the Italian Pietro di Bernerdone).