The Bible, UFOs, ET and the Ancients Part 3

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Hi ScarZ,

Thank you for posting this information. Does any of David Flynn's material give any idea to the time-frames for the early events or historical figures that his research indicated?

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by **Jake Reason** Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:06 am

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ScaRZ,
In my haste to complete my posts yesterday, I hadn't noticed this post.

ScaRZ wrote:
"Braveheart", I have it in my collection....."Great movie". My all time favorite still remains "Apocalypse Now".

So you Jake see me as the "Warrior". When I think of great warriors in The Bible,the first three that I think of are Joshua,Caleb,and Michael The Archangel.

Yes, a warrior for right cause.
I don't know much about your private life. You keep this reserved and I respect that. I don't know if you are currently a leader of others or if you think of yourself as so gifted. But if Tribulation should begin and society is radically disrupted, I see you as being lifted up as the Elder Shepherd of a flock.

Your controversial post I read yesterday,but decided I would stay out of it. I'm not afraid to voice my opinion,but wanted others to give their thoughts. I see nobody stepped forward.

Isn't innocent blood always shed?

I feel sorrow for this whole world.

I'm also not sorry for stating things I stand firm on.

Every single moment we need to all be watching.

It seems everyone on this forum is worried for the world. We share this in common.

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ScaRZ wrote:
....The people of the many counties on this earth view the USA through the actions and words of The President. If we (Americans) are really honest we view them the same way......"Through the words and actions of their leaders." It may not be fair as a whole but that's just it plain and simple.

So true.

When everybody gets some free time you need to listen to these. It really fits in well with some of the material we've talked about recently. I don't want to give anything away,so I will leave it at that.

Canaanite altars and the Federal Reserve

Thanks, I'll listen to it tonight.

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Post by ScaRZ Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:20 am

Excellent web site of Chris L. Lesley. Everybody needs to check it out.

Greater Ancestors

http://greaterancestors.com/

Chris Lesley is an artist and sculptor.

http://suite101.com/article/artist-sculptor-chris-lesley-a175851

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@All:

I’ve been trying to devote some time to reading several books that all arrived within a two week period.

I should be concluding: Lights in the Sky & Little Green Men: A Rational Christian Look at UFOs and Extraterrestrials in the next day or so. So far, it has been a predictable read.

I spent several hours today listening to some lectures by Alan Watts. This quote from him seemed poignant today:

"Inability to accept the mystic experience is more than an intellectual handicap. Lack of awareness of the basic unity of organism and environment is a serious and dangerous hallucination. For in a civilization equipped with immense technological power, the sense of alienation between man and nature leads to the use of technology in a hostile spirit---to the "conquest" of nature instead of intelligent co-operation with nature."

Two other reads in the mix are:

http://www.amazon.com/Shocked-Bible-Astonishing-Facts-Youve/dp/0849920116
http://www.amazon.com/UFOs-Exopolitics-New-World-Disorder/dp/1470077825
Then I will rejoin into the fray – so to speak.

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by **Jake Reason** Sun Jan 27, 2013 2:02 am

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MD02 wrote:@All:

I’ve been trying to devote some time to reading several books that all arrived within a two week period.

I should be concluding: Lights in the Sky & Little Green Men: A Rational Christian Look at UFOs and Extraterrestrials in the next day or so. So far, it has been a predictable read.

Hugh Ross.
Yes, a good friend of GfC and RtB. Dan Smith's stomping grounds.

Smart man, sensible fellow. Too bad he hasn't dared step over the far side with a little more faith. Can't quite measure up to a mustard seed. Oh well, such the way things are during these "cusp days".

Lucy Babe is billions of light years ahead of him. And Lu has the whole camp in his hands. Even though they would never think Lucy would be sharper then them. "Mice and men", comes to mind.

C'est La Vie. They'll never listen to JC. He preached a 'Kingdom Come' and most all his Evangelical children are preaching a 'Great Tribulation'. When will they ever get it?

Meanwhile, Lucy has the church by the tail.

"They're NOT Demons, Stupid!", said the Jake down by the riverside. But few want to hear about the Millennium. "The Sky is Falling, the Devil Has Arrived" makes a much catchier Headline.

Someday, I'll have to sit down with Hugh. And a few other contemporary off-the-mark Gunslingers. Need teach them a thing or two about how the foxiest of all snakes swiggles the fanciest two step.

I'll enlighten them....

Preaching 'UFOs are Demons', is the surest way to reduce the number of those written in the book of life. Grand Slam for Lucy.

Sorrow of sorrows. Tough cup to bear.
G-d's will be done.

by **ScaRZ** Sun Jan 27, 2013 9:49 am

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Jake Reason wrote: They'll never listen to JC. He preached a 'Kingdom Come' and most all his Evangelical children are preaching a 'Great Tribulation'. When will they ever get it?

Jesus Christ also preached on the subject of his coming and to watch for the signs that will proceed his coming. It wasn't only a one way street if you take in account all his teachings. Jesus Christ wants his believers and followers to be prepared for all the thorns as well as the roses.

I certainly understand what you are attempting to convey. I agree that we don't hear enough about The Kingdom.

Something I think about often is what the universe was like before the rebellion took place. The Kingdom of God is not just a kingdom here on earth but a kingdom in the whole cosmos. Just in our on speck in the cosmos,was there life on all the planets? Was there life on all planets throughout the cosmos?

I see the whole cosmos that is in decay as once having order. God did not create confusion and decay. The Angelic realm,The Sons of God failed at their stewardship of the cosmos. I believe re-born mankind (Sons of God) are about to stewardship the cosmos. We are about to truly "Image God".

by vectorian Sun Jan 27, 2013 1:26 pm

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Post by vectorian Sun Jan 27, 2013 1:26 pm

Oh, so much to catch up on. Thank you all for the welcomes. I have so many irons in the fire and so small a time to be on here. Trying to catch up with the first page and the links just in this topic. So if I don't post it's because I don't know what is going on. Very Happy

Thank you all, especially ScaRZ for reviving this subject.

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Nice to see you here, Victorian.

ScaRZ,
I used the word "Preach" to define, as 'Jesus' always Preached to the multitudes/people - Kingdom Come. He refrained from warning them of tribulation to come. Reserving to teach only his chosen Sheppard's of Sheppards (Apostles) privately of those things to come. And the odd time he warned the Temple Priests with snippets, purposely leaving out the details. However when Preaching, it was always about the Good News.

All to often Preachers are inclined to scare people into salvation, rather than encourage an understanding of the greatest hope, that virtually everyone would be drawn to.

The Great Falling away has already happened over the past century. The churches are now few and most have been bulldozed for new subdivisions and shopping centers.

I believe a predominant cause has been "fear preaching" rather than the Good News Preaching as 'Jesus' exemplified.

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Yes,you are correct his Sheppards (Apostles)and Disciples went out into the earth and spread the good news. They also had much to teach the world about those private teachings of Jesus Christ to his Apostles. If you become a disciple of Jesus Christ you need to understand the signs and not be deceived by the antichrist spirit.

The Bible is full of books and teachings of his Sheppards (Apostles) that certainly are attempting to enlighten people of the thorns as well as the roses.

You don't always reach the unsaved people the same way. You can reach one person a certain way that you can't reach another. What brought me to The Lord worked for me,but it may have not worked for you. Some of us need tough love and others don't.

Jude 1 20-23

But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost,

Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.

And of some have compassion, making a difference:

And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.

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Jake Reason wrote:
Hugh Ross.
Yes, a good friend of GfC and RtB. Dan Smith's stomping grounds.

Smart man, sensible fellow. Too bad he hasn't dared step over the far side with a little more faith. Can't quite measure up to a mustard seed.

Re:Lights in the Sky & Little Green Men: A Rational Christian Look at UFOs and Extraterrestrials

Rational consisted of numerous uses of: UFO cults and conspiracy theorists. Seems rational enough for this song to pop into my head that I have not heard in years, and I am No fan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7xjYeWOhbU

The book also basically stuck to 'traditional' physics neglecting Exotic physics, (quantum) failing to discuss its potential. Two chapters were basically how rare life is the universe is according to 'mainstream' science.

And Jake was correct - at the conclusion of the book they basically stick with the IDH/SDB (Interdimensional Hypothesis / Supradimensional Beings) Basically – DEMONS. To their credit, they seemed to portray their belief that there is something to the UFO enigma and admitted parallels with biblical accounts, but only back to Demons again.

One chapter is titled: “Defense Against UFOs” – I kid you not. Apparently, the membership here is in for a fine deal of trouble when we have reached the limits of our fleshy frames.

The chapters on Abductees/Contactees is no more glorious. They are channelers of demonic messages. I should remind them, that many of their most cherished worldviews exist from ‘witnessed accounts’, and states of dream-like visions from Holy beings. Is this just a case of: ‘My Supradimensional stories from antiquity are better than yours from today?’

Interestingly enough, not one credible whistle-blower account was even mentioned or discussed, but then again the book went to print in 2002.

Still, it was not an exercise in futility because it did reinforce what I suspected as the rational approach traditionalists will generally take.

I will stand by my earlier assessment that most Christian’s leaders today are no different than the Jewry of Christ-time. A new Priesthood in a different day lays the blame and takes to shun and persecution.

A great many have come to accept that salvation is personal and is obtainable within the temple given to us from the time we have been plucked from the womb. It has always been within - when so many are looking out. Personal Salvation no longer requires a priest, an expert historian and storyteller, it requires personal conviction.

Still, some require such guidance, in a confusing world. I will share a story of such when time permits. With all this in mind, I know they are inherently good people and most likely all my seniors, so perhaps I should pay a bit more attention?

Dan’s stomping ground?!? Now there is another thing to ponder.

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ScaRZ wrote:
You don't always reach the unsaved people the same way. You can reach one person a certain way that you can't reach another. What brought me to The Lord worked for me,but it may have not worked for you. Some of us need tough love and others don't.

Yes, well said.
This world is really messed up.

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MD,

Thank you for your book review. 2002, eh? I hadn't looked at that. Those were back in the days of dial-up 56k. A time when accessing knowledge/reports still required alot of legwork. The book is long past out-of-date. I wonder if Hugh Ross may have grown to revise his position at all.

I look forward to reading your story MD, when you have a chance.

Dan’s stomping ground?!? Now there is another thing to ponder.

He has been hoping to change their minds on some matters, while getting a bird's eye view of their world. He doesn't know Hugh Ross personally, just a mega-church that supports his ministry.

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Jake Reason wrote:I wonder if Hugh Ross may have grown to revise his position at all.

He has been hoping to change their minds on some matters, while getting a bird's eye view of their world.

Revised positions? Anything is possible, I suppose. Still, they may be dead on or dead wrong. The rational approach did seem a bit disengenous. I have a suspicion all whistleblower accounts would be swept into the 'cannot be substantiated' or 'US technology' argument. Where's my mustard seed when I need it?

And I have been attempting to rationalize his view of their world, without the threats of arrest.

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This is short tale from an exceptionally kind woman that I work with.

She is an extremely spiritually minded African American in the fifth decade of her life who was until recent, working two jobs while trying to finish a basic degree that would allow her to further her ambitions in caring for people within a healthcare/outreach setting. We have spent countless hours in the past years discussing all things including racial and religious topics generally left untouched. She amazed me early on with a spiritual gift in reading people through their handwriting – echoing a phrase to my astonishment I had grown accustomed to in my life, but never shared.

For the last decade of her life she has fallen away from the Church, attending to be more accurate, for many of the same reasons I hear from others. Fear preaching, judgmental, shunning, social cliques, hypocrites, church fathers living in excess, whispers within the pews, and many more. Did she see a Pit of vipers? Still, within this separation ‘forsaking the assembly’ was a phrase that was of great contention to her.

She asked me rather surprisingly; if I thought MLK was assassinated by our own government and I asked if she thought JFK was. Conversation ensued. The thought of this being a possible reality was more than she could bear. “IF that is the truth, I don’t want to know it! I can’t even think about that. I just want to live my life!” Then she inquired about the possibility of an Illuminati controlling what people thought as a reality. “I don’t think I would want to know the truth!” was yet another reply.

She then opened up, sharing private details about her extended absence from work for over a month. A few weeks away from graduation she had a nervous breakdown and quit her degree of pursuit. She broke down emotionally while trying to find a home for another single mother with three children who were all under that age of ten and by their appearance had not bathed in quite some time, no father around. A reflection from her past was all it took to cripple a spirit so close to God, but so far from the church.

I asked her, if you did not have to concern yourself with money anymore, what would you do? “Outreach programs within the inner city helping bring people closer to God so they could help themselves.” was the reply. She did lament as to the nature of ‘her people’ with great regret from her heart that is oftentimes reported.

I implored her to consider her spirit and the manner in which it closes its eyes to many of the truths she cannot bear.

In knowing that we are spiritual beings experiencing life in a physical sense, I asked: When you are gone from your walk within the flesh - what will your spirit have learned if you refuse to seek the truth in all things? Will it be more – or less complete? Will it have learned all that it could – all that it should have but did not because you allowed fear to prevent you gaining truth? Would a spiritual being stumbling across humanity seek to understand all things and help guide or close its eyes – only to move away? Will you also move away in your tomorrow-time unable to bear the burden?

Sometimes truth is more than some spirits can bear.

At the end of the discussion I suggested to her that perhaps it was time for her to reconnect with the ‘assembly’ despite the prevailing issues. Being away from her ‘home’ could have also been about finding herself in the painful reflection of another’s eyes, instead of faith. Guidance is not always a bad thing – in moderation. Sometimes it is best to follow the winds.

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ScaRZ wrote:When everybody gets some free time you need to listen to these. It really fits in well with some of the material we've talked about recently. I don't want to give anything away,so I will leave it at that.

Canaanite altars and the Federal Reserve

Part 1
http://blogtalk.vo.llnwd.net/o23/show/4/245/show_4245677.mp3

Part 2
http://blogtalk.vo.llnwd.net/o23/show/4/257/show_4257937.mp3

Holy Schmokes! I surely wasn't expecting that!

Just finished listening to Part 1.

This is a game changer for me. I never would have thought 2008 was an intervention.

Perfect timing too. ScaRZ, it's no coincidence you shared this here. Bless you.

Taking it to the Father in prayer.

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http://www.blogtalkradio.com/revolutionaryradio/2013/01/10/canaanite-altars-and-the-federal-reserve

Tim Bence, Oklahoma?
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Significant brain activity' in comatose Ariel Sharon

http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/28/world/meast/israel-sharon-brain-activity/index.html

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ScaRZ wrote:When everybody gets some free time you need to listen to these. It really fits in well with some of the material we've talked about recently. I don't want to give anything away,so I will leave it at that.

Canaanite altars and the Federal Reserve

Part 1
http://blogtalk.vo.llnwd.net/o23/show/4/245/show_4245677.mp3

Part 2
http://blogtalk.vo.llnwd.net/o23/show/4/257/show_4257937.mp3

Is the first time this story has been told, Scarz?

The reason I ask is that several parts of this story I have already seen or heard, and to be honest, I think it was in a dream or I just had a dejavu episode.

Truly an odd feeling here.
Time to go Dream.

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Hey guys great to hear you both (Jake,MD02) have listened to the Tim Bence interviews. MD02 this was the first time it was brought to my attention.

At Future Congress 2013 Peter Goodgame introduced Rob Skiba to Tim Bence. Peter and Rob sat at a table and listened to Tim Bence talk for "6 Hours". After hearing about how it moved Peter and Rob I knew I needed to listen to the interviews....."Part 1 as well as Part 2".

Tim Bence drew me into the interview within a few minutes. He comes across as just a down home person. He is so soft spoken and in my opinion not in it for anything other than informing us.

The sifting of Peter by The Adversary (Satan) was brought up in Part 2 when Tim Bence talked on the subject of spiritual warfare. It got me thinking of a post I made in the old thread on that subject.

The devil is coming to sift all of us. When Jesus is with his disciples at the last supper. Read what Jesus tells Peter about Satan (The Adversary).

Luke 22:31-32

And the Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat:

But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren.

Satan is about to come after Peter and find every weak spot he has. The chaff must be blow from the wheat.

Jesus has already prayed for Peter to give him strength that his faith will not fail him. Not Peter himself, but Peter's faith. Once Peter has endured and turns back the devil he is to be the one The Lord trust to strengthen the other disciples.

When one overcomes he gains strength to help strengthen others.

Jesus with his timing certainly knows Peter is about to deny him.

Three times Peter denies his Lord........"I know not what thou sayest."........"I do not know the man."........"Then began he to curse and to swear, saying, I know not the man. And immediately the cock crew."

Matthew 26:75........"And Peter remembered the word of Jesus, which said unto him, Before the cock crow, thou shalt deny me thrice. And he went out, and wept bitterly."

Peter wept bitterly for denying his Lord and must have carried with him a dark cloud of depression. I'm sure Satan continued sifting Peter hitting hard at any weak spots he could find. But Peter did overcome and gain much strength. The chaff was blown from Peter.

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MD02 wrote:

The reason I ask is that several parts of this story I have already seen or heard, and to be honest, I think it was in a dream or I just had a dejavu episode.

Truly an odd feeling here.
Time to go Dream.

That is a wow! moment isn't it. Do you have many dreams you feel are attempting to speak importance to you?

I want to thank you for posting your above material about the exceptionally kind woman that you work with. It brought many things to my mind while reading.

Just sitting around talking to people I come away feeling a large majority want to live their lives and not dwell too long on what awakens them to the real world. Attempt to feel good as long as you can at any cost.

We can only push things away so long. It continues to eat at us like a cancer gaining ground. One way or the other we can only hide,or run so long. All anyone needs to do is look at how many people are pill/drug junkies. We humans will try anything to escape the real issues that haunt our very souls.

We were born into tribulation and must learn to face it head on. We can't hide or run from it,or tribulation multiplies deep within us.

We now think a pill/drug is "The" answer. A pill/drug to manipulate the brain,force it to counter what your very soul is screaming for.

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Jake Reason wrote:
Holy Schmokes! I surely wasn't expecting that!

Just finished listening to Part 1.

This is a game changer for me. I never would have thought 2008 was an intervention.

Perfect timing too. ScaRZ, it's no coincidence you shared this here. Bless you.

Taking it to the Father in prayer.

I'm going to share something with you. When I listened to Part 1 it just blew me away. That audio file is packed full of information that brought to light so many things for me. The whole crossing of boundaries and how it all ties together. Jesus turning the tables over in the Temple was like I finally understood what it was about for the first time. The blood sacrifice of babies on alters and the curse of the lands.

That night after I listened to Part 1 I had a hard time sleeping. I was planning on posting a link to the interview on OMF the next morning and during the night as I tossed and turned something almost talked me out of posting it.

Early the next morning while praying I knew I was being moved by The Lord to post it. I was to do it and not worry. Those chosen to listen will listen and gain from it. Even those who fight it are chosen and gain. So Jake you are correct,it was no coincidence that I shared it here.

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I guess I'm gonna have to listen to it again because I'm seemingly not getting out of it what you guys are. I mean, I've always seen money as the "golden calf" .
I guess the enslavement aspect of the "interest" made on money loaned and how it makes one a slave to the system/satan makes sense. Makes common sense. The idea that 2008 was an intervention? Intervention by whom? It seems cut and dry to me that the PTB fully intend to completely devalue the dollar and as prophecy puts forth deliver a one world currency...

Jesus being angry at the money changers- well, I too am angry at these snakes in the grass.

The bible says plenty about money- dare I ask a wall street broker to sell everything he has and give it to the poor? Sure if I'm in a comedy club. It'll have to be ok because i for one would not care to spend eternity with that caliber of soul... ?

Rockefeller / blood alters - yea makes sense.

I appreciated the 2nd link- as it points out quite clearly the most important thing to do is help those less fortunate around you. Not so long back I went in a convenience store in AC and a homeless guy just kept staring me down from outside- through the glass- the whole time I was in there. No problem, if I have cash I'll usually hand out here and there even though I know it's going on alcohol and drugs. All I had was a buck. "sorry man this is all I have". He said- "you don't know what you've done! You will be great in the kingdom of heaven".

He was in rough shape and such words for a buck.

I don't know guys- how do you live without using money these days.

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MD- very touching story, thanks for sharing that. I know there's plenty of bad things that happen on this blue marble that if I knew about might break my soul. Maybe it's true a soul can only take so much.

by **Bard** Thu Jan 31, 2013 2:22 am

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Offhand, I used the link Jake provided, thinking it was both parts of the same interview in one continuous show. I will check out link two when I am able to secure some time just to be sure.

I must have heard Tim Bence in another interview before. I attempted to locate other interviews with him in the short time I had this afternoon but was unable to locate any. If you are able to drum up TB on another interview telling the same story, please let me know. Perhaps it was one of his friends that he mentions working with him that did a show regarding the same material?

I really feel I heard this story more than three years ago or longer and this has been buried so long it seems, dreamlike. If this is the first telling of that story – I truly am at a loss for words. I am not sure why you anguished over posting the material, personally.

Don’t we all dream to some degree? To be honest – I rarely dream or should I say rarely remember them? I will tell you, that I cannot remember the last time I had a dream in which I feared anything. To answer your question – do I dream of things that speak of importance?

That is a difficult question to answer given the mysterious nature of dreamscape. I do pay great attention to them and this has bore fruit from time to time. I'm sure we could all recall some pretty ridiculous dreams also, right? There is certainly nothing special about mine as far as I am concerned unless the TB story was a first telling. If so, I may need to reconsider much, rationally and spiritually. It is something I will have to get to the bottom of.

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I don't know guys- how do you live without using money these days.

MD- very touching story, thanks for sharing that. I know there's plenty of bad things that happen on this blue marble that if I knew about might break my soul. Maybe it's true a soul can only take so much.

I left much out of the story, but I felt it was important to illustrate that a nearness/proximity to God (from an Earthly perspective) does not always provide a soul with strength. This does not infer it cannot be provided or found. I also shared it to prove - I'm human

Some of the closet to God I know, are also the most fragile. Why is this?

One day, this world will move beyond wealth of coin in hand. This is a certainty. It is written on the souls of every cognitive being that this system is corrupt. Great pains will need to occur before this becomes a reality - before it is accepted.

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MD02 wrote:
That is a difficult question to answer given the mysterious nature of dreamscape. I do pay great attention to them and this has bore fruit from time to time. I'm sure we could all recall some pretty ridiculous dreams also, right?

We had (past tense because he has since crossed over) a little old jewish man in his late 80's who use to work with us- he was a Mechanical Engineer for like the last 60 years. Anyway he and I use to talk on occasion. I let him in on my interest of ufo's , Angels, past civilizations/Giza and the like. One day he pulls me aside and tells me his story. He said when he was younger his curiosity was at a peek and he joined a group of like minded people who would meet once a week and research discuss and ??? He wasn't real clear on the ??? I asked you mean like Kabbala kind of stuff and he said no not really. He went on to say that one night he had the most intense realistic dream he had ever had in his life and several of the people from his group were in it. He didn't tell me the contents of the dream other than it took place in some type of mystical setting. So anyway his weekly meeting came up and he went still feeling perplexed at that dream. At the meeting a couple of the other people (in his dream) pulled him aside and with grins started asking him how he liked the dream and what he thought of it. He had not mentioned one word to them about it....

He said it so shocked him that he decided then and there to kick in his stacked pile of logs , quit the group and never looked back.

Yikes.... Talk about weird .

He was a great person - God bless his soul.

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@MD02

This was the first time I've heard anything from Tim Bence. Peter Goodgame mentioned him and I didn't recognize his name at all.

I found another recent interview with Tim on another subject. I haven't listened to it as of this post but plan to when I get some time. Tim must be new in the arena of interviews or anything related to the internet. I've had no luck finding any older material of his.

Fatherhood and Unity with Tim Bence
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/discoveringthetruth/2013/01/16/fatherhood-and-unity-with-tim-bence

The main reason I ask about dreams was I've been a huge dreamer all my life. Most are nothing I feel any importance to me,but some I do.

I had one last week and was the first of it's kind in many months. I call them "Deep Dreams".

It was a very short deep dream but when I awoke I knew exactly the meaning behind it.

It took place in an open field of grass. The dream was very windy but never stormy. The grass blew in a right direction and suddenly two young lion cubs appeared running towards me.

Once they reached me they began jumping all around me playfully. They each would take their paws and grab my hands. The cub that would grab my left hand was much weaker than the cub grabbing my right hand.

Finally the cub holding my left hand let go and dropped to the ground while the other cub held on and pulled very strongly down to the ground. Once his feet touched the grass he let go,but not without one intense final pull of my right hand.

I then heard something moving in the grass to my right and out of the grass appeared a huge male lion. I knew he was the cubs father from the moment he appeared. He walked right next to me and rubbed his body against my right side and licked my right hand with his tongue. He was strong and very powerful but also gentle and kind.

At that moment I awoke from the dream.

The huge male lion is a king/ruler who is very strong as well as powerful,but is a gentle and kind soul. The two cubs are his sons in line for rulership one day. The left hand cub is much too weak and will never reach the seat of ruler. The right hand cub will hold the power as ruler with his great strength.

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