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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?
Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin
With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.
Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.
So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?
And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?
Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.
Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.
So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?
And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?
Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.
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Chivo could be half so lucky!
If foot hinting that he is prepared to share the Princess
with the world 
?
That could be our salvation!
…………
We might wonder if Buddha settled for second best.
His reaction of sunyata/anatta was quite likely his reaction to the Hindus greatly overpopulating heaven and hell with every imaginable entity.
Gautama was simply performing a long overdue house cleaning 🧹.
He was making straight the way for the jguy…….. just a thought.
I trust that we are all entitled to our thoughts.
When we run out of thoughts, it will be time for the cows
to come home.
(cont……..)
If foot hinting that he is prepared to share the Princess
with the world ? That could be our salvation!
…………
We might wonder if Buddha settled for second best.
His reaction of sunyata/anatta was quite likely his reaction to the Hindus greatly overpopulating heaven and hell with every imaginable entity.
Gautama was simply performing a long overdue house cleaning 🧹.
He was making straight the way for the jguy…….. just a thought.
I trust that we are all entitled to our thoughts.
When we run out of thoughts, it will be time for the cows
to come home. (cont……..)
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Home at last, I have returned from the past, now I must hoist my mast. Standing tall, not far from a wall, I have not far to fall. The old goat is fed, he has been to the head, and now it is time for bed. A woman awaits, she flies through the gate, and soon we will consummate.
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This is how to Princess responds to goats.
Awww
Cute lil
god I love sThis is how I respond to muppets.
I don’t know the princess, but if she likes
s maybe she has some quality.Smelly
s don’t mean any harm.We just always let you know we are in the room with you.
Marcus Aurelius wrote:“How rotten and fraudulent when people say they intend to ‘give it to you straight.’ What are you up to, dear friend? It shouldn’t need your announcement, but be readily seen, as if written on your forehead, heard in the ring of your voice, a flash in your eyes — just as the beloved sees it all in the lover’s glance. In short, the straightforward and good person should be like a smelly goat — you know when they are in the room with you.”
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dan wrote:Chivo could be half so lucky!
If foot hinting that he is prepared to share the Princess
That could be our salvation!
…………
We might wonder if Buddha settled for second best.
His reaction of sunyata/anatta was quite likely his reaction to the Hindus greatly overpopulating heaven and hell with every imaginable entity.
Gautama was simply performing a long overdue house cleaning 🧹.
He was making straight the way for the jguy…….. just a thought.
I trust that we are all entitled to our thoughts.
When we run out of thoughts, it will be time for the cows
(cont……..)
Jesus didn’t know he was Christ.
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skaizlimit wrote:Home at last, I have returned from the past, now I must hoist my mast. Standing tall, not far from a wall, I have not far to fall. The old goat is fed, he has been to the head, and now it is time for bed. A woman awaits, she flies through the gate, and soon we will consummate.
Bahahaha, oh my.
That deserves two smelly
s
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two is claiming deniability…….. the posts yesterday were from Left foot 🦶.
I would be surprised if a philosophy student, even a female one, would have made such a post without due authorization and/or collaboration.
[Please see below where it was ascertained the last two ‘foot’ posts, including the one already deleted, were made by an interloper with unauthorized access……. 0100zulu/June 15 or 9pm edt on the 14th].
In regards to the post of John S, two points out that he was probably drunk, celebrating his successful Patagonia mission.
Here’s just a memo mainly to myself…….. between the Frascella brothers, three is closer to David.
two avers that Fox did make the correct call on Arizona on election night, 2020, but, still Trump won by 8 million.
And chick
is still claiming to have stolen it with the Wuhan 🦠.
Does this have bearing on 2024?
Well, it may have a bearing on the Sun
going out.
And when I opined that yesterday’s posts might signal a crack in the wall between smelly|two, two responded with an expletive directed at Chivo.
And yes I did report on significant conversations with Doug, Chris L and ftgm.
Chris has been volunteered to be our Guinea
pig with respect to Disclosure.
Putin and Xi have similarly volunteered.
What I volunteer is Novaya Zemlya, but instead of the 50# Tsar, we deploy the 250# more clandestine French version.
……. and then have the Sun blink once or twice.
If that doesn’t do it, then I’ll just have to eat my hat
.
(cont……..)
I would be surprised if a philosophy student, even a female one, would have made such a post without due authorization and/or collaboration.
[Please see below where it was ascertained the last two ‘foot’ posts, including the one already deleted, were made by an interloper with unauthorized access……. 0100zulu/June 15 or 9pm edt on the 14th].
In regards to the post of John S, two points out that he was probably drunk, celebrating his successful Patagonia mission.
Here’s just a memo mainly to myself…….. between the Frascella brothers, three is closer to David.
two avers that Fox did make the correct call on Arizona on election night, 2020, but, still Trump won by 8 million.
And chick
is still claiming to have stolen it with the Wuhan 🦠. Does this have bearing on 2024?
Well, it may have a bearing on the Sun
going out. And when I opined that yesterday’s posts might signal a crack in the wall between smelly|two, two responded with an expletive directed at Chivo.
And yes I did report on significant conversations with Doug, Chris L and ftgm.
Chris has been volunteered to be our Guinea
pig with respect to Disclosure. Putin and Xi have similarly volunteered.
What I volunteer is Novaya Zemlya, but instead of the 50# Tsar, we deploy the 250# more clandestine French version.
……. and then have the Sun
blink once or twice. If that doesn’t do it, then I’ll just have to eat my hat
. (cont……..)
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chick wrote:And when I opined that yesterday’s posts might signal a crack in the wall between smelly|two, two responded with an expletive directed at Chivo.
Ha!
Warms the heart and hoof.
Expletives are like honey to the ears of smelly
Everyone must have been drunk last night.
It was a
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50#……. Big Ivan…….
Google does not recognize the French
version, which comes via other sources.
I believe that it was JAW who did the final calculation 🧮 to show that a thermonuclear device would not trigger secondary fusions, which would have been a game ender.
If we can’t trust Johnny, who can we trust?
With this bit of showmanship, I suspect that we’ll be able to open the portals more at our leisure.
And I just picked Novaya Zemlya off the top…….. more optimal locations should be considered.
(cont……..)
The heat from its detonation was capable of causing third-degree burns up to a distance of 62 miles from ground zero. Its shock wave was felt by the people as far away as 692 km, while window glasses up to 900 km were shattered.
Third-degree burns destroy the epidermis and dermis. Third-degree burns may also damage the underlying bones, muscles, and tendons.
Google does not recognize the French
version, which comes via other sources. I believe that it was JAW who did the final calculation 🧮 to show that a thermonuclear device would not trigger secondary fusions, which would have been a game ender.
If we can’t trust Johnny, who can we trust?
With this bit of showmanship, I suspect that we’ll be able to open the portals more at our leisure.
And I just picked Novaya Zemlya off the top…….. more optimal locations should be considered.
(cont……..)
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Smelly talks about love, chick talks about bombs.
Make not bombas.
In other news…
It is interesting to note what a bunch of snakes
surrounded trump in the hearings.
He is such a pathetic figure.
Take that 2!
One could align with love or support a
Easy choice for smelly
We kill snakes with the tappity tap of our hooves.
talks about love, chick talks about bombs. Make
not bombas.In other news…
It is interesting to note what a bunch of snakes
surrounded trump in the hearings.He is such a pathetic figure.
Take that 2!
One could align with love or support a
Easy choice for smelly
We kill snakes with the tappity tap of our hooves.
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Poor Chivo,
He can’t distinguish between a good bomb
and a nasty 
one……. location, location, location…….
In regard to donny, the love
bomb would allow him to retire early.
The love bomb and the Sun blink would hopefully 
suffice to awaken the PtB from their slumber 
of materialism.
The bomb part of it is only necessary to make the Sun blink…… pratītyasamutpāda……..
………….
You may have noticed that there were two posts purporting to be from foot 🦶, but they were not from either one of them.
The first one had to be deleted…….. tmi.
There has been another interloper…… causing the password to be changed yet again.
(cont……..)
He can’t distinguish between a good bomb
and a nasty one……. location, location, location……. In regard to donny, the love
bomb would allow him to retire early. The love
bomb and the Sun blink would hopefully suffice to awaken the PtB from their slumber of materialism. The bomb
part of it is only necessary to make the Sun blink…… pratītyasamutpāda…….. ………….
You may have noticed that there were two posts purporting to be from foot 🦶, but they were not from either one of them.
The first one had to be deleted…….. tmi.
There has been another interloper…… causing the password to be changed yet again.
(cont……..)
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I know that foot mann and wife and friends who share his handle here all love Trump and Putin. Who needs more love than that for goodness sakes!
Please, oh please, lets not talk about love in this context and instead talk about how to throw both of them in prison where they belong.
Please, oh please, lets not talk about love in this context and instead talk about how to throw both of them in prison where they belong.
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99,
The Big Frog
, love bomb, would have nothing to do with either donny or vladdie…….. it’s just about making the Sun blink……… pratītyasamutpāda style.
If we can make the Sun blink, then we may proceed with Disclosure on a more leisurely pace.
(cont………)
The Big Frog
, love bomb, would have nothing to do with either donny or vladdie…….. it’s just about making the Sun blink……… pratītyasamutpāda style. If we can make the Sun
blink, then we may proceed with Disclosure on a more leisurely pace. (cont………)
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Dan knows some creepy people.
He made a good point, one of his few.
Imagine having to be a shadow muppet.
Imagine if you said what you knew, you would be killed.
Imagine they listened to everything you said and watched everything you do.
It would kind of suck.
We gotta love the shadow muppets too.
Imagine the freedom of dan and smelly
We are little innocents running around in the fields skipping and fa la laing.
The shadow muppets probably enjoy being shadows.
They might think it gives them power.
But until you can run around in the fields skipping, you really are stuck in the shit.
There are some very very dark shadow muppets with big teeth.
It’s good to know a shadow or two.
I have requested an audience.
I should say I feel pulled a bit.
Let’s see what happens.
I’ll tell you a secret.
Ones who know themselves, do not hide in the shadows.
Ones who know themselves are naked.
Poor shadow muppets.
They must have done some bad things with their time on earth.
Once you begin to go down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny.
He made a good point, one of his few.
Imagine having to be a shadow muppet.
Imagine if you said what you knew, you would be killed.
Imagine they listened to everything you said and watched everything you do.
It would kind of suck.
We gotta love the shadow muppets too.
Imagine the freedom of dan and smelly
We are little innocents running around in the fields skipping and fa la laing.
The shadow muppets probably enjoy being shadows.
They might think it gives them power.
But until you can run around in the fields skipping, you really are stuck in the shit.
There are some very very dark shadow muppets with big teeth.
It’s good to know a shadow or two.
I have requested an audience.
I should say I feel pulled a bit.
Let’s see what happens.
I’ll tell you a secret.
Ones who know themselves, do not hide in the shadows.
Ones who know themselves are naked.
Poor shadow muppets.
They must have done some bad things with their time on earth.
Once you begin to go down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny.
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99 wrote:I know that foot mann and wife and friends who share his handle here all love Trump and Putin. Who needs more love than that for goodness sakes!
Please, oh please, lets not talk about love in this context and instead talk about how to throw both of them in prison where they belong.
Trump is a disgusting 🤮 pig.
Putin is a real ahole.
Takes a lot of nuts to bake a nut
cake. I prefer Lincoln myself.
That was someone I would love to have had a chat with.
He puts all the pretenders to shame.
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In the meantime, we should keep our eyes 
on the skies 
…….. mainly on the Webb.
Things may be beginning to get interesting……...
Chivo,
Yes, but, now is the time for major karma reversal!
(cont……..)
on the skies …….. mainly on the Webb. Things may be beginning to get interesting……..
.Chivo,
Yes, but, now is the time for major karma reversal!
(cont……..)
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My eyes are focused inside, on the sky inside, and straight on.
Where I step takes care and intuition.
Send left foot 🦶 my love and smelly farts.
are focused inside, on the sky inside, and straight on. Where I step takes care and intuition.
Send left foot 🦶 my love and smelly
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And Einstein said that, if we stare far enough into space, we will be seeing the backs of our own heads.
We may be about to find out if he was right.
If the Webb can really do it’s stuff, we may not have to deploy the Big Frog .
We can be sure that some folks will be be trying to knock
it out of the sky .
………..
Jorjani from Prometheus………
(cont……..)
We may be about to find out if he was right.
If the Webb can really do it’s stuff, we may not have to deploy the Big Frog
. We can be sure that some folks will be be trying to knock
it out of the sky . ………..
Jorjani from Prometheus………
Derrida draws out Freud’s own anxieties about how scientific research into the spectral holds the potential to collapse the barrier between the seething abyss of the unconscious and the conscious ego bound by various social norms.
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I develop a thread in Specters of Marx wherein Derrida connects the uncanny quality of the spectral — the way in which it reveals our being ahead of and beside ourselves, our not quite ever being at home as the other within ourselves — to the spectral character of the technoscientific projection of Nature itself. Whereas this projection seems to be predicated on the exorcism of specters, profound reflection on this exclusionary epistemic mechanism ironically effects a reversal: technoscientific projection is revealed as what is most spectral. The specters that have hitherto been only unconsciously driving technoscientific development, in the manner of daemonic possession, are revealed to the conscious mind. These specters are not concepts; like any specter, they even elude the grasp of conceptual thought. They are, rather, the aesthetic idealities essential to scientific praxis, or what shows that technology has an ontological priority over theoretical science. As I go on to argue, these gigantic specters of Technoscience are Prometheus and Atlas.
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Meanwhile, for all their talk about “deconstruction,” even so-called “postmodern” philosophers are still unconsciously terrified by the prospect of finding that epistemic frameworks are “really” lacking any foundation — any principle of Reality — that is not psycho-socially constructed as an expression of the will to power.
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Indeed, my first chapter draws to a close with a consideration of just how many of our vital interests are threatened by a mainstream acknowledgment of the paranormal.
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The reason why these phenomena have been so fiercely suppressed, including in the guise of nervous laughter, is because they pose a challenge to every pillar of our extant social structure and conception of self. Moreover, there is evidence to suggest that the widespread skepticism concerning spectral phenomena and uncanny abilities is actually keeping these at bay. Thus, as I point out in the second chapter, mainstream scientific recognition of the paranormal could in itself amplify manifestations of it, and one would also expect various training protocols to become available for the refinement of hitherto denied abilities.
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It is, I suggest, for all these reasons that what is spectral in nature has been occulted as part of the very construction of the modern age. Terror in the face of the spectral is the occulted foundation of the Cartesian world order.
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Those individuals who undergo such experiences are, in his view, candidates for the hospital, if not for burning at the stake. Their alleged uncanny powers, Kant contends, present as great a threat to the “whole contemplative commonwealth” as acts of terrorism do to the political commonwealth.
(cont……..)
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Is there anyone here who actually believes Dan understands Cy's cosmology? He does not. Nothing unusual about that.
Dan, the speaker on Foot's account informing you about Ukraines crimes against humanity wrt the children was correct and properly informing you as it did seem you didn't know or understand that to be the case.
Trump & Putin despite the misunderstandings about them, are not your enemies. I can produce 44 pages of archived reporting on NATO that clearly shows who the real miscreant on the international stage actually is at this point in time. That's a total of 1,086 linked items stretching back to 2012. There are eyes watching within the vacuum of the fight between reason and chaos.
Welcome home Scarz and Skaiz
As to the censorship. This board within OMF is Dan's. I gave full autonomy over it; it is Dan's to regulate as he sees fit. Now I WILL CAUTION DAN, his censorship is excessive at times. But there are other locations on OMF where any member may post their thoughts and opinions freely. Dan please remember sometimes we are defined best by those who disagree with us...i.e Pelagius; you and I; Smelly and you; U and you. Nuff said.
As for Putin. I trust he is not as self-destructive as the talking-heads in the West prefer to paint him. He has already proven himself as one of the greatest statesmen of his generation whether you agree with him on various positions he's taken or not. I still frown over his part in Uranium One. So don't be pigeon-holing me you all...I give credit where I see it due. He has a shitty job. He's done better than anyone else I could imagine landing in those shoes.
(Edit to add: Putin was also correct about the biolabs. Do none of you remember my posts in 2014 about the 'slavic labs', tri-parte flu, and weaponized ebola? Or about in 2020 how the weaponized ebola was deemed unusuable because the vaccine was evolving hotter and hotter in the vials instead of remaining stable?)
Trump waltzed into a hornets nest. He did better than anyone else I could have imaged landing in those shoes...thankfully it wasn't the Hildebeast or we'd all not be here to discuss any of this.
Dan, sometimes politics, opinion, and observations do play immense parts in the greater story. The vacuum is an illusion...I think Smelly might agree with me on that remark in general.
Pelagius was a stoic at heart. He was defined by those who opposed him. He fought the good fight for a greater good. His philosophical children are yet many keeping the Old World world view alive for those it suits. And if Source had a different opinion in his day of Free Will, in this day and age I can testify, Source is a fan of Free Will respecting it deeply.
FiOs. - Old Irish: Vision, Memory, Dream; modern Irish "Knowledge".
Dan, the speaker on Foot's account informing you about Ukraines crimes against humanity wrt the children was correct and properly informing you as it did seem you didn't know or understand that to be the case.
Trump & Putin despite the misunderstandings about them, are not your enemies. I can produce 44 pages of archived reporting on NATO that clearly shows who the real miscreant on the international stage actually is at this point in time. That's a total of 1,086 linked items stretching back to 2012. There are eyes watching within the vacuum of the fight between reason and chaos.
Welcome home Scarz and Skaiz
As to the censorship. This board within OMF is Dan's. I gave full autonomy over it; it is Dan's to regulate as he sees fit. Now I WILL CAUTION DAN, his censorship is excessive at times. But there are other locations on OMF where any member may post their thoughts and opinions freely. Dan please remember sometimes we are defined best by those who disagree with us...i.e Pelagius; you and I; Smelly and you; U and you. Nuff said.
As for Putin. I trust he is not as self-destructive as the talking-heads in the West prefer to paint him. He has already proven himself as one of the greatest statesmen of his generation whether you agree with him on various positions he's taken or not. I still frown over his part in Uranium One. So don't be pigeon-holing me you all...I give credit where I see it due. He has a shitty job. He's done better than anyone else I could imagine landing in those shoes.
(Edit to add: Putin was also correct about the biolabs. Do none of you remember my posts in 2014 about the 'slavic labs', tri-parte flu, and weaponized ebola? Or about in 2020 how the weaponized ebola was deemed unusuable because the vaccine was evolving hotter and hotter in the vials instead of remaining stable?)
Trump waltzed into a hornets nest. He did better than anyone else I could have imaged landing in those shoes...thankfully it wasn't the Hildebeast or we'd all not be here to discuss any of this.
Dan, sometimes politics, opinion, and observations do play immense parts in the greater story. The vacuum is an illusion...I think Smelly might agree with me on that remark in general.
Pelagius was a stoic at heart. He was defined by those who opposed him. He fought the good fight for a greater good. His philosophical children are yet many keeping the Old World world view alive for those it suits. And if Source had a different opinion in his day of Free Will, in this day and age I can testify, Source is a fan of Free Will respecting it deeply.
FiOs. - Old Irish: Vision, Memory, Dream; modern Irish "Knowledge".
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Prometheus is a hothead.
He should relax.
As far as Putin, anyone dropping bombs on kids should practice empathy and consider how they would feel if someone dropped bombs on their kids.
Empathy is the key to life.
He should relax.
As far as Putin, anyone dropping bombs on kids should practice empathy and consider how they would feel if someone dropped bombs on their kids.
Empathy is the key to life.
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Ah but empathy is a luxury. When you're forced to make crisis choices, sometimes you have the luxury, sometimes you don't. How many months did Putin plead with the NWO crowd to address his state's "security concerns" before he acted on them? I can pull the time frame out of the archive if you like.
What causes deaf ears? Like Dan not understanding Cy's cosmology, despite proximity since 2008. When we see only what we want or expect to see, the end result is deafness to communication.
Communication is a form of Disclosure, but the UFOLOGY community never figured that out and communicators have been abused to the point one group dubbed the public "too toxic to deal with" at one point. FYI.
Drui (Ollamh/Scholars) in training are cautioned about becoming hidebound in judgment. Anne McCaffrey wrote the Dragonriders of Pern series of books showcasing what becoming "hidebound" looks like in social practice. Ollamh some of whom are specialized as Brehons are notorious for becoming hidebound. There are different forms of expression of this condition. Cormac mac Airt is famous for his ability to see beyond the condition to uphold the tenants of good judgment in his proclamation about the Queens sheep and the woad yet failed when his "experts" swayed his 'good judgment' about the justice of double-taxation on Mumhan's Caisel and their people till the physical assistance of the Ollamh Mor (Mogh Ruith) had to be sought to defend them against his unjust onslaught. Everyone and Anyone can become hidebound. The first symptom generally is very simple...you don't realize you are.
What causes deaf ears? Like Dan not understanding Cy's cosmology, despite proximity since 2008. When we see only what we want or expect to see, the end result is deafness to communication.
Communication is a form of Disclosure, but the UFOLOGY community never figured that out and communicators have been abused to the point one group dubbed the public "too toxic to deal with" at one point. FYI.
Drui (Ollamh/Scholars) in training are cautioned about becoming hidebound in judgment. Anne McCaffrey wrote the Dragonriders of Pern series of books showcasing what becoming "hidebound" looks like in social practice. Ollamh some of whom are specialized as Brehons are notorious for becoming hidebound. There are different forms of expression of this condition. Cormac mac Airt is famous for his ability to see beyond the condition to uphold the tenants of good judgment in his proclamation about the Queens sheep and the woad yet failed when his "experts" swayed his 'good judgment' about the justice of double-taxation on Mumhan's Caisel and their people till the physical assistance of the Ollamh Mor (Mogh Ruith) had to be sought to defend them against his unjust onslaught. Everyone and Anyone can become hidebound. The first symptom generally is very simple...you don't realize you are.
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I disagree.
I know better, as my heart chakra was opened after experiencing the bright light.
Jesus taught us empathy
As did many others imo.
It counters judgment.
It makes a way for love.
Nothing justifies dropping bombs.
To think hurting others is love, is sick and deranged.
Empathy is required an natural.
Imagine if we practiced empathy on OMF.
Imagine if we melted down all the weapons.
Imagine if Ron practiced empathy and Dan.
Call me a dreamer, I’m not the only one.
This is god’s word to me, be gentle and kind and foster empathy in all your interpersonal contacts.
People who have been abused are often disconnected from this.
In addition to the conceptual notions of unity and social duty on a large-scale, Stoicism promotes empathy and understanding in our interpersonal relationships. Of chief importance is the ability to listen to others in a way that acknowledges their own values, beliefs, and autonomy.
People deny their empathy to do evil and make selfish choices.
It can counter any disagreement.
Put yourself in the other’s shoes.
What you do to others, you do to yourself.
This recognizes we are all connected.
When in the hardest situation, showing empathy is the greatest act of a human.
I think it is what makes a human great.
Btw, empathy, not just skill, makes you a great engineer as well.
"Be kind, everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle." - Plato or Socrates
I know better, as my heart chakra was opened after experiencing the bright light.
Jesus taught us empathy
As did many others imo.
It counters judgment.
It makes a way for love.
Nothing justifies dropping bombs.
To think hurting others is love, is sick and deranged.
Empathy is required an natural.
Imagine if we practiced empathy on OMF.
Imagine if we melted down all the weapons.
Imagine if Ron practiced empathy and Dan.
Call me a dreamer, I’m not the only one.
This is god’s word to me, be gentle and kind and foster empathy in all your interpersonal contacts.
People who have been abused are often disconnected from this.
In addition to the conceptual notions of unity and social duty on a large-scale, Stoicism promotes empathy and understanding in our interpersonal relationships. Of chief importance is the ability to listen to others in a way that acknowledges their own values, beliefs, and autonomy.
People deny their empathy to do evil and make selfish choices.
It can counter any disagreement.
Put yourself in the other’s shoes.
What you do to others, you do to yourself.
This recognizes we are all connected.
When in the hardest situation, showing empathy is the greatest act of a human.
I think it is what makes a human great.
Btw, empathy, not just skill, makes you a great engineer as well.
"Be kind, everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle." - Plato or Socrates
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Skinwalker ranch and the UAPs are of the psychic realm, the realm of the djinn and fairies and daimones.
God is revealed by every level and intrinsic to.
Charles Upton thinks Disclosure is a great deception.
Duh.
I am withering into Truth/Love.
Your third eye is on the top of your head they say, always looking up.
You have to ask where is the darkness coming from.
It’s a shadow.
The shadows point to the light of God.
The opaque human ego manifests as antichrist.
What is the work we are here to do?
In the center of the shadow is the face of the light.
This is why we were born.
Grace reveals this.
I have turned to god and it has helped me.
I am a child of grace.
I am a lucky
for I have seen and realized the face of god at the center of myself.
God is revealed by every level and intrinsic to.
Charles Upton thinks Disclosure is a great deception.
Duh.
I am withering into Truth/Love.
Your third eye is on the top of your head they say, always looking up.
You have to ask where is the darkness coming from.
It’s a shadow.
The shadows point to the light of God.
The opaque human ego manifests as antichrist.
What is the work we are here to do?
In the center of the shadow is the face of the light.
This is why we were born.
Grace reveals this.
I have turned to god and it has helped me.
I am a child of grace.
I am a lucky
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Smelly that is a beautiful sentiment. OMF exists because of empathy. It is why I rebuilt what could be rebuilt. But you have lived a fortunate and sheltered life if you have yet to learn there are instances where you do not have that luxury. There is real evil in this world...it is not the tame amenable place where that could be the rule as yet. Perhaps one day. The problem with evil is it doesn't care about what could be. It only cares about whatever it is it wants at any given moment. Sometimes preemptive choices are made by people who perceive something the rest of us did not and those choices are not nice choices...not a choice we would choose whether we had the luxury of empathy or not.
I want you to think long on something if you would humor me a moment. I would like you to consider what this world would be if there were not good people who make ugly choices to wrangle some evil they believe they see, into submission. If there were no one to step into the fray of darkness, deceit, and harm. If there was no one who would sacrifice their empathy to save what could one day be good in this world.
I'm not saying this is what Putin has done. I'm not saying this is not what he has done. I'm saying just to think about how your own life might be so sheltered you cannot conceptualize having to make such a choice that someone or something else might survive to be that beautiful world one day.
Cy
Edit to add:
Everyone, it is not enough to only practice empathy and expect the empathic road can tow the ship through thick and thin. There must be the ability to perceive multi-dimensionally, the ability to reason multi-dimensionally, and the ability to make just judgments aka formulate opinions justly and appropriately.
But we live in a world where everyone allows bias to seep in and then worse clings to those biases even when some part of them has been exposed to modifying information or some aspect of relational being.
This results in the clouding of perception, the skewing of judgment, and opinions based on falsehoods. No human at this time can always be right. It's easy to judge others especially when we have no direct repercussions or consequences to experience from a mistake.
But we are quick to rush to judge anyway. We do not care, for we believe we have caught someone in some malfeasance or irrational behavior...we act like sharks smelling blood in the water.
So much for empathy.
I want you to think long on something if you would humor me a moment. I would like you to consider what this world would be if there were not good people who make ugly choices to wrangle some evil they believe they see, into submission. If there were no one to step into the fray of darkness, deceit, and harm. If there was no one who would sacrifice their empathy to save what could one day be good in this world.
I'm not saying this is what Putin has done. I'm not saying this is not what he has done. I'm saying just to think about how your own life might be so sheltered you cannot conceptualize having to make such a choice that someone or something else might survive to be that beautiful world one day.
Cy
Edit to add:
Everyone, it is not enough to only practice empathy and expect the empathic road can tow the ship through thick and thin. There must be the ability to perceive multi-dimensionally, the ability to reason multi-dimensionally, and the ability to make just judgments aka formulate opinions justly and appropriately.
But we live in a world where everyone allows bias to seep in and then worse clings to those biases even when some part of them has been exposed to modifying information or some aspect of relational being.
This results in the clouding of perception, the skewing of judgment, and opinions based on falsehoods. No human at this time can always be right. It's easy to judge others especially when we have no direct repercussions or consequences to experience from a mistake.
But we are quick to rush to judge anyway. We do not care, for we believe we have caught someone in some malfeasance or irrational behavior...we act like sharks smelling blood in the water.
So much for empathy.
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Rue she said Protection
Rooster's Crow Confusion
One thing else to end the deed --
A dog with no Illusion.
~ Walter Wangerin Jr., Book of the Dun Cow
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