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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?
Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin
With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.
Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.
So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?
And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?
Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.
Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.
So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?
And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?
Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.
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dan wrote:Well, Cy,
Have you ever seen anything that’s not normal?
The way God (Source) operates in our mundane environ is normal. Synchronicity being that consciousness influencing ourselves, other creatures, the physical expression of the fabric of our reality...
But it has been generations since the Aes Dana Ollamh Mor taught the 'apprenticeship' to Synchronicity and equally unusual to simultaneously teach the Brehon knowledge set of the Sovereignty to produce a Banais Righi who was also adept as an Apprentice to Synchronicity. To use the skills of both knowledge sets in tandem teamwork.
That Unusual last blast of the original Aes Dana Ollamh tradition was a helluva exit.
While I will never claim to be excellent at it, I have been trying.
It gives new perspective to synchcratic education in the male psyche from observation of the male experience of society and life in the roofing industry (a go figure thing)...wrap your mind around weird and set the questions on a shelf for later Cy, not everything can or should be explainable in that very moment.
Marry the skills to the power and interactions possible on the internet and you get something of a profession on an odd sort of steroids, where you may speak with a JCS Admr, a militia network commander, a state leader of a Constitution Party, and a Patton 'protege' all in the same day.
What is the value of such a non-normal wildcard?
In the retrospect of several decades I can SEE the value. It's not necessary to spell out what I have seen. I'm mearly remarking that Source is both normal and utilizes abnormal methodologies as it deems warranted.
You want to see normal and abnormal working in Tandem? Study Source. Groups like the Vatican system of scholars could probably have done this at one point in their existence if not continually had they been less concerned with power, influence, and ego than they are with following Source. Shrug. My two cents.
Were or when Jesu ever returns I doubt he'll be visiting the Vatican other than to kick over a few more tables.
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I agree that, very likely, we are working our way back to something of biblical proportions…….
I'll keep working my way back to you, babe
With a burning love inside
Yeah, I'm working my way back to you, babe
And the happiness that died
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To add, I have a certain fondness for AR Bordon & the Life Physics Group efforts. An all new language for the physics they've observed none of the physics being abnormal, but their approach, interest, and expression of understanding fitting the description of abnormal.
Why do we worry about normal, or abnormal, or high strangeness? Why does any portion of human experience need to be pigeonholed?
The practice creates more problems than it solves.
Why do we worry about normal, or abnormal, or high strangeness? Why does any portion of human experience need to be pigeonholed?
The practice creates more problems than it solves.
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And we must be careful of what we wish for……..
I once said to the Princess……… going forward, our biggest problem will be that we have no problems.
She turned and looked at me……… you want to see problems……. I’ll show you problems!
I once said to the Princess……… going forward, our biggest problem will be that we have no problems.
She turned and looked at me……… you want to see problems……. I’ll show you problems!
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If someone, myself, yourself, whomever has seen the abnormal then it simply IS.
Something that IS can be counted as part of the reality (normal) and then observed or studied, or left in peace.
Fear should always wear a horse harness, bit and bridle.
Something that IS can be counted as part of the reality (normal) and then observed or studied, or left in peace.
Fear should always wear a horse harness, bit and bridle.
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Cy,
See something…… say something?
See something…… say something?
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dan wrote:Cy,
See something…… say something?
Oh? To whom when the whole thing has been swamped in a cess pool?
Case in point all the characters right now who if we had real law enforcement and enforcement of the Constitution would be sitting behind bars awaiting trial not running around loose.
Nah, the whole see something say something thing, which came out with Nappy Baby who went to Russia looking for troops to help American forces do a future gun confiscation, was dead and laughable on arrival.
DC is thus not my govt. It's just a three ring circus for entertainment value half a continent away.
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As far as Disclosure is concerned it's free for all.
I've encouraged a certain 'claimed' non-human group online to pick a spot on the internet, set up camp, and tell their version. Let people come ask questions, hold dialogs, just do your own thing in the Wild Wild West show...let long-term experience do what it does naturally on both sides of any potential demarcation line.
I suggest you do the same...you have been.
Space Force can do their thing.
Exopolitics Institute do Sallas, and on down the line.
Truth has a funny habit of working things out eventually on its own with a nudge here or there from Synchronicity.
I have days where I'm pretty sure Humanity exists because the non-humans simply were not entertaining enough for Source's liking.
We're really good at screwing up the moving parts of a rock in the most creative ways...then the non-humans have good cause for fussing that we are just not developing the way other species/races do... Well that's because we have to try out every other pathway before we do the one we know will net expected results. We're teaching you mofos patience if nothing else, lol.
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Cy,
Well, do you remember why I am here?
I saw something, and I’m still saying something.
We’re told that if we see something, we are supposed to call
911.
I knew that wouldn’t work.
But I remained focused on the problem for nine months.
Then the telephone number was given to me by two people……..
…… Bob Oechsler and Larry Lemke……
Can you guess who’s phone number it was…… and this was back in August of 1991?
I think now it is a party line that we have here.
Well, do you remember why I am here?
I saw something, and I’m still saying something.
We’re told that if we see something, we are supposed to call
911. I knew that wouldn’t work.
But I remained focused on the problem for nine months.
Then the telephone number was given to me by two people……..
…… Bob Oechsler and Larry Lemke……
Can you guess who’s phone number it was…… and this was back in August of 1991?
I think now it is a party line that we have here.
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dan wrote:Cy,
Well, do you remember why I am here?
I saw something, and I’m still saying something.
We’re told that if we see something, we are supposed to call
I knew that wouldn’t work.
But I remained focused on the problem for nine months.
Then the telephone number was given to me by two people……..
You know damn well I do dan. OMF is still here, door open, lights on. It will remain so. For you and anyone else who needs a place to speak, express, or howl without harassment.
I said in 2010 the inhabitants of the shrubbery should return to the table. They still have a home here too.
The nons are always welcome...the only thing stop ping them from participating is their own hearts. They claim we're the problem...funny but it looks the other way around from down here. Shrug. Door is open, light is on, and will remain so. Source decreed it.
All things in good time I suppose. He/It is the boss.
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Cy,
Ok, then, I was right……… we have no Problem.
We mostly just keep our eyes open……. and we speak
when we feel the urge.
And, yes, sports fans……. the mice
will play while the cat’s 
away.
Ok, then, I was right……… we have no Problem.
We mostly just keep our eyes open……. and we speak
when we feel the urge. And, yes, sports fans……. the mice
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I have never strayed from Source's directive to keep this place afloat for everyone. I will not.
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It seemed like something was trying to get my attention…….. so I got someone else’s attention.
That’s all we ever have do.
It’s what we know, and who we know.
That’s all we ever have do.
It’s what we know, and who we know.
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No one hast to give you what you can give yourself. We hold territory, either digitally or literally. Where I stand or others like me, the nation of THE PEOPLE, that original Constitutional Republic still exists because I uphold it; they uphold it; you uphold it. In this place all Human Potential exists and is a protectorate of Source and ourselves united.
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I always get suspicious when someone demands loyalty.
No, what I can promise is to be steadfast.
It is a distinction…… and often it’s not a very subtle distinction.
No, what I can promise is to be steadfast.
It is a distinction…… and often it’s not a very subtle distinction.
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Stopping the incineration would allow the self-righting earth system to bring back stability and resurrection. Allowing the continuation of the incineration is for depopulation agenda by a life-hating movement. Criminal. Why is law enforcement missing in action?
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dan wrote:I always get suspicious when someone demands loyalty.
No, what I can promise is to be steadfast.
It is a distinction…… and often it’s not a very subtle distinction.
Who is demanding loyalty other than the NWO crowd and their steering protocols and illicit narratives?
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Countries demand loyalty.
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dan wrote:Countries demand loyalty.
A nation is not a country. A PEOPLE are a nation. A government represents a country.
Be a nation. Assert over your country...I am the author of my own story. Source is the author of a universe within which we experience the interplay of worlds, countries, nations.
Write the best possible story.
EDIT TO ADD: This man is a member of my Nation. FiOs.
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(328) People laughed at him when he planted trees in a DESERT! But later they were all SHOCKED... - YouTube
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Cy,
Are you telling us that you are a nationalist?
I think we do have to tread carefully, here.
……..
I see your addendum.
Are there words for what you are driving at?
Are you telling us that you are a nationalist?
I think we do have to tread carefully, here.
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I see your addendum.
Are there words for what you are driving at?
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dan wrote:Cy,
Are you telling us that you are a nationalist?
I think we do have to tread carefully, here.
……..
I see your addendum.
Are there words for what you are driving at?
I am speaking in terms you can understand; anyone can understand. You don't need new terms to understand any of this. Reread what I said above then read the image below.
Each of you are the solution. You must believe in yourself. You must WANT to survive. You already know all the things that need doing. You have only to begin. Join our nation.
---> It does not matter where you begin. Only that you begin. Be a member of that singular spirit.
You may be a lone individual
a system inhabitant
a craftsman plying his trade
a diplomat
a politician
a person on the street
a non-human
Starting point does not matter. Who you are, the identity you choose to be applied in this spirit is what matters.
You are a contributor; a solution; an expression of Source. You are
the dream of life among men. Be the best author of your story; our story, you can be.
Cy
I am as I have always been, and will one day be again. FiOs.
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Be a nation. Countries in this context are not relevent. Be a PEOPLE. A singular spirit as the Old Irish were when they returned home to Eire...the Claíomh Solais...a singular spirit. A nation. A shining sword. A sword acts; does what is needed.
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Claiomh Solais…………. sword 
of light…….. also sword of truth.
Ok, so we google sword of truth……..
Ok……. sword of the spirit…….
And what is the Truth………..?
And are we still waiting for an answer?
My Christian friends say……. but we have the Truth….. it is the word of the Lord.
………….
Is this fake news?
I did say that Putin would be well qualified to be in charge of Disclosure.
Would there be anyone better qualified?
(cont………)
of light…….. also sword of truth. Ok, so we google sword of truth……..
Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.
Ok……. sword of the spirit…….
He said to them, “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. It is written: ‘And he was numbered with the transgressors’; and I tell you that this must be fulfilled in me. Yes, what is written about me is reaching its fulfillment.” The disciples said, “See, Lord, here are two swords.” “That’s enough!” he replied.
We have only one offensive piece of armor, instead of defensive: the sword of the Spirit, or, the Word of the Lord….
All the pieces of the armor come from God, but this piece in particular is God himself, the Holy Spirit. It’s Logos, the same word used to describe God in John 1:1. When we enter battle, we must arm ourselves with the Truth of God, refusing to compromise to the world’s standards.
And what is the Truth………..?
Pilate never got his answer, but he had seen enough.Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth.
Pilate said to Him [scornfully], “What is truth?” And when he had said this, he went out to the Jews again and told them, “I find no guilt in Him”
And are we still waiting for an answer?
My Christian friends say……. but we have the Truth….. it is the word of the Lord.
………….
The director of the C.I.A. said on Thursday that Vladimir V. Putin’s “potential desperation” to extract the semblance of a victory in Ukraine might tempt him to order the use of a tactical or low-yield nuclear weapon, publicly discussing for the first time a concern that has coursed through the White House during the seven weeks of conflict.
Is this fake news?
I did say that Putin would be well qualified to be in charge of Disclosure.
Would there be anyone better qualified?
(cont………)
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dan wrote:Claiomh Solais…………. sword
Ok, so we google sword of truth……..
Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.
Ok……. sword of the spirit…….
He said to them, “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. It is written: ‘And he was numbered with the transgressors’; and I tell you that this must be fulfilled in me. Yes, what is written about me is reaching its fulfillment.” The disciples said, “See, Lord, here are two swords.” “That’s enough!” he replied.We have only one offensive piece of armor, instead of defensive: the sword of the Spirit, or, the Word of the Lord….
All the pieces of the armor come from God, but this piece in particular is God himself, the Holy Spirit. It’s Logos, the same word used to describe God in John 1:1. When we enter battle, we must arm ourselves with the Truth of God, refusing to compromise to the world’s standards.
And what is the Truth………..?
Pilate never got his answer, but he had seen enough.Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth.
Pilate said to Him [scornfully], “What is truth?” And when he had said this, he went out to the Jews again and told them, “I find no guilt in Him”
And are we still waiting for an answer?
My Christian friends say……. but we have the Truth….. it is the word of the Lord.
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The director of the C.I.A. said on Thursday that Vladimir V. Putin’s “potential desperation” to extract the semblance of a victory in Ukraine might tempt him to order the use of a tactical or low-yield nuclear weapon, publicly discussing for the first time a concern that has coursed through the White House during the seven weeks of conflict.
Is this fake news?
I did say that Putin would be well qualified to be in charge of Disclosure.
Would there be anyone better qualified?
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Ok, you've understood. Now let's take a glance at your faction dialog you mention: (image) who appointed him to his position?
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This issue of factions is very important for more than a prestige and control issue. I'll explain.
Over 70 years of a wild wild west exopolitical human experience has resulted in a multifaceted story of human contact with nons.
- CIA german east desk origins leading back to the long haired ladies in the hills of the reich., And a mentality approach that doesn't fall far from the tree.
- The corporate experience...can we say Labyrinth & 5412 (continuity of governance structure); technology exchange programs, unacknowledged special access programs with public private partnerships historically since Eisenhower whined about the loss of control
- Wingmakers (the Ancients described in Legacy of the Elder Gods by M Don Schorn) & the Council of non-Grey Group "non-humans" whom were the experience of 15 aka A R Bordon (deceased) and Life Physics Group
- JCS non naval initiative - planetary engineers called in by Tall Whites (Charles Hall) to examine the cyclic cataclysm issue.
- Delta Force and the Dumbs struggle with the early treaties with the Grey Group and their exceeding the allowances of the Treaties...Grey Group being outside the Greater Community with its "Council".
- Those with individual group contacts ie. Pleiadians, Oranges, Red Head Giants...from Switzerland to Antarctica back to South America.
- The Reppy inhabitants of the caves & deep underground,,.
- the keepers of the inconvenient history: Smithsonian, Vatican.
- the working groups with the problem of initiating a Human to Human Disclosure
- the system inhabitants (military) tasked with setting up Space Force and intersecting infrastructure.
- the National Security Council...a arena for both white hats and globalist gatekeepers.
- what the Tenth Fleet (NSA/Navy) can discern from former experiencers (testimony) and the corruption entanglement leading back thru the ancient cohabitants with their cannibalism of humans, adrenochrome et al.
- the new experiences with a better informed "Hybrid Empire" and children of two worlds. Can they remain a part of both and be loved/included/accepted by both. Remember in ancient Ireland a child of mixed blood qualified for the Tanistry...that pool of students from which the Chieftains and Kings of the Tribes and Clanns were elected because they had a dog in the hunt of ALL the races of Ireland, thus being once educated the most qualified to lead all the People.
- The non corporeal experiences by individuals...Glamor or advanced physical state of being?
- the veil between worlds thinning and the portals.
You get the idea. Truth in Disclosure will eventually accommodate all of it and more.
How do you train the next Teachers? They who thousands of years from now will be mentors to others? Source didn't give you a hard road a confusing road for no purpose. Advanced students get the tough class.
You all would not be here if Source didn't BELIEVE in YOU.
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"This is an indeterminite problem. How shall I solve it? Pessimistically? Or optimistically? Or a range of probabilities expressed as a curve, or several curves?..........Well.....we're Loonies. Loonies bet. Hell, we have to! They shipped us up and bet us we couldn't stay alive. We fooled 'em. We'll fool 'em again!" Robert Heinlein, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress.
Rue she said Protection
Rooster's Crow Confusion
One thing else to end the deed --
A dog with no Illusion.
~ Walter Wangerin Jr., Book of the Dun Cow
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