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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Nov 11, 2022 10:57 pm

    Haha

    Where we are headin, there are no names.

    What a blockhead.

    You will get it one day, I have faith in you.
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    Post by U Fri Nov 11, 2022 11:19 pm

    I used to get it but now...

    I AM IT.

    I'm not anyone's Adversary.

    I'm their BUDDY!


    You're doing good work over there btw.

    I've been waiting 4 years for this.

    It was worth the effort!


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Nov 11, 2022 11:41 pm

    I got them right where I want em.

    They set themselves up.

    Haha, we are just gettin started with those nasty muppets.

    Get on board, the love train has come to town.

    Cy suggested I team up with you today.

    They thought they had all the secrets.

    Bahahaha

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    Post by U Sat Nov 12, 2022 10:40 pm

    "Help us help ourselves."

    The anthem of my time here on OMF and in the Disclosure movement in general.



    "Help Yourself"
    The Devil Makes Three Lyrics


    Even the devil was an angel before he tried to rush the throne
    Lord, they threw him down in hell there all alone
    and now he builds a castle out of the sinners' bones
    You'd be angry too if you could never go home

    Well now, I ain't no preacher, no preacher man's son
    I done some bad things but I like to have my fun
    A thousand ways to heaven, a thousand ways to hell
    Well I say, the good Lord helps those that help themselves
    So help yourselves now

    Old man Nicodemus could not make his heart believe
    He could see that Jesus had some tricks up his sleeve
    Said now, Oh man, Jesus I can't do things your way
    But I can see you work with somebody big, so I'm backing your play

    Old man Nicodemus, his pockets they were deep
    But on the day the Romans decided to put Jesus to sleep
    Jesus could not care for money now or any such thing
    Old Nicodemus paid to have Jesus just buried like a king

    Well now, I ain't no preacher, no preacher man's son
    I done some bad things but I like to have my fun
    A thousand ways to heaven, a thousand ways to hell
    Well I say, the good Lord helps those that help themselves
    So help yourselves now

    Our father art in heaven hallowed be thy name
    Told Noah "build a boat" on the driest of days
    And everybody in the neighborhood said old Noah was insane
    I guess when the waters receded now, the truth was plain

    Well now, I ain't no preacher, no preacher man's son
    I done some bad things but I like to have my fun
    A thousand ways to heaven, a thousand ways to hell
    Well I say, the good Lord helps those that help themselves
    So help yourselves now

    Moses was a great man, parted the waters of the Red Sea
    Down the road to Egypt, he made sure the slaves were free
    Well he could speak to God, so they say, yes indeed
    Well the noise of his voice would have made our poor ears bleed

    Moses, he had an army I tell you all his own
    They stood in circles outside his very home
    and when the the Pharaohs got to killing they left old moses alone
    but the Romans drove their nails through old Jesus' bones

    Well now, I ain't no preacher, no preacher man's son
    I done some bad things but I like to have my fun
    Why they got Jesus now and not Moses, who can tell?
    But they do say, the good Lord helps those that help themselves
    So help yourselves now




    Better change your tune before you come back this way again.

    I do declare a successful Coup!


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    Post by U Sun Nov 13, 2022 8:31 pm

    My comment from the Personalism 101 thread.

    "I intend to change to a more welcoming tone myself going forward.

    When I switched to the moniker U from Reptile, it was during my crossing.

    I intended to use it as a sort of mirror to the sort of energy I felt coming from this part of the internet and contrast it with the internet as a whole and it also was to be used as a challenge to self appointed authority figures in this realm of interest. The vulgarity was a useful tool, one I even struggled using at times. The name U itself is in fact a mirror and I think the more discerning eyes amongst us realized that early on. The parody phase can now be put to rest as the circus clown act that it was and only be resurrected if need be.

    Now more serious discussion can be at hand.
    On to the glorious new era!"

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    Post by U Tue Nov 15, 2022 2:15 pm

    ON THE PLURALITY OF WORLDS

    Chapter 4: Counterparts or Double Lives?

    Finally, chapter 4 contains Lewis's development of counterpart theory. According to Lewis's theory, each actual object exists only in the actual world and not in any non-actual world. However, each actual object has counterparts in infinitely many possible worlds that are not identical to the actual object, but that "resemble [it] in important respects."



    This video from Jason Reza Jorjani has me considering elements of the BPW.

    The video postulates that in order for other worlds to exist with meaning they must be relational to this one.

    The idea of the infinite multiverse was something that at one time I found quite appealing but following Dan's work and now Jason's has made me realize that it's only what is meaningful and personal to myself that is the true appeal.

    An infinite multiverse renders itself meaningless because it negates free will but more over, it is a place devoid of identity and person-hood because one is simply playing out multiple rolls that are completely distinct from one another to the extent that no single person has anything special about them. They are just there then instead of here now 😉.

    On the other side of this argument or observation is what I and many others have always struggled with when it comes to grasping the idea of a single world cosmology.

    It is the plain and shamelessly self centered fact that I have not lived up to my full potential.

    It is the plain and shamefully selfless fact that others have not lived up to their full potential.

    What good is a grand metanarrative if you can't be the star of your own show?

    It's said life is a grand game. It certainly seems that way in the philosophy of the BPW.

    But too often it's forgotten that games are meant to be fun.

    There are those who were unable to truly play and make the most of it due to circumstance.

    This is where I think the role of other worlds may come into play.

    The things we desire most of all out of the diversity of an infinite multiverse can instead be extracted and refined into other versions of the world or worlds we live in.

    We can take what is best for us and improve and even change the story of our lives for the better by CoCreating within these smaller worlds or maybe more actually paths of worlds by retroactively making better choices in the mind and applying that to our ways of thinking going forward.

    I believe this is why we experience Deja Vu. There are particular moments where choices can and have been made that are very important but branch off into various results. All of these moments can and will be experienced in this framework but it is only these key moments, not every single extraneous decision one makes.

    This is a concept I'm wrestling with and having difficulty putting into words but I think it is something that touches on the heart of not only what we discuss on this blog but even something tied intrinsically to our deepest desires.

    I'll leave you with words from Dan's old blog that I think are grappling with these same notions.

    What There Is

    All or nothing



    I am currently having difficulty rationalizing the virtual experiential chaos mentioned in several earlier pages. I may have to be more sympathetic with Leibnitz' Principle of Sufficient Reason. Chaos is more likely to be epiphenomenal than fundamental. In a relational world, chaos has very little going for it.

    The story of our world and of the cosmos has always existed in some form. Our freedom is in the storytelling. The living out our lives is filling in the details in a recursive and multi-level fashion. All of us comprise only one mind in infinite self-reflection. We have already been there and done that, but it is always possible to wring more meaning out of any 're-experiencing.' Every moment of every life presents an infinite challenge.

    Any possible world with any less meaning has no reason to exist. It would be superfluous since this world already has infinite meaning. Any other reality can only have an 'orthogonal' meaning, and it could thereby be co-existent with this world. Everything is here now in eternity and our eschaton is only a move from one infinity to a higher one, to a more inclusive reality, as if we did not have enough reality already, which we probably do.

    This next higher level of reality is both imminent and immanent and it is orthogonal to and inclusive of our reality. Relative to it our world is not redundant. In some sense it is parallel to us now, but we will experience it mainly in the future, though in that future time will become multidimensional. If this sounds confusing don't be worried, things will work out, they have already been so  



    http://bestpossibleworld.com/aAquarium/whatIs.htm

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    Post by U Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:21 am

    Oh I get it.

    This world is Cathuria.

    I'm such an intellectual.
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    Post by U Wed Nov 23, 2022 1:13 am

    Try



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    Post by U Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:45 pm

    Ryan B might appreciate thissssss


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    Post by U Sun Dec 11, 2022 10:08 pm

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    Post by U Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:21 pm

    "I'm so broke, I can't even pay attention."

    I like that one, haha.

    That's pretty good.
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    Post by U Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:22 pm

    Ladies, gentleman and everything in-between...

    The Invisible College!




    ADDENDUM

    (It wasn't me you fucking moron!)

    Fuck you!

    Hey "Sean"

    It's me "Walter"

    .

    ______________________________________

    To

    QoH

    There's this skill or maybe more accurately a power I've learned recently. If I think about someone before I go to bed, I can usually visit them in a dream. I go to you a lot these days and there's this field of flowers we always meet up in. The other night felt like a turning point. In the waking life I've been troubled because we were getting closer, but now I feel you pulling back, something awkward happened and the vibe has changed. I remain hopeful that it can change back, that we can move and flow and make it work, when you're ready and I don't mind waiting for you, for a time at least. I'm always grateful that you still make time for me and still seek out my attention. I'll always value my time with you no matter where we stand. As for this dream, it was gentle but still heavy. You told me what we both know, you're dying... and unless breakthroughs are made, nothing will change that. They could indeed be made but we can't bank on that. Every day matters and you have to make the most of your time. Luckily you're still young and you do have time to accomplish much and live out your dreams. I think you will, I know you feel stuck now and so do I but we can become unstuck together if we try. The other thing you told me was heavy too, how this condition makes it hard to be intimate with someone. That's rough, really rough but I just want you to know the truth. The truth is is that I adore you. I think you're one of the most incredible people I've ever met and you're so easy to love. You're easily the strongest person I've ever met, the way you try to drink in life despite how hard it can be for you day to day. So not only do I adore you but I admire you too. I know things haven't been easy for you and it always bothers me that you feel the need to apologize to me for every little thing you do or the way you nearly jump out of your skin when there's a loud noise. You're never a nuisance to me, you're not useless or helpless. That piece of human excrement who said and did that evil shit to you is completely fucking wrong, I know for a fact you won't die alone no matter what and you deserved to be treated much better than that. I wish we had gotten to know each other ten years ago and things might have been much different but what's done is done. I do remember you from way back too, I haven't told you yet because I definitely didn't want to come off as creepy but I remember seeing you around in highschool and you were hot shit, (you still are) the popular emo scene girl, a senior at the top of the heap and me a nerdy freshman you wouldn't have noticed in a million years. I guess deep time is a hell of a thing because a million years later now you do notice me and it rocks, a total privilege! Anyway at the end of it all you are just the best, I love you for you and I don't care about any of those things that stand in the way. You're my favorite person and I want to be around you all the time. I hope we can get much closer, regardless I'll always be here for you because you matter to me very much. Thank you, for everything.

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    Post by Mr. Janus Sat Jan 21, 2023 9:43 pm

    I'm retiring the original U because I think 2222 posts is a solid number


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    Post by Mr. Janus Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:12 am

    Yo I'm not the one and I'm not having having it, I just want to make that clear.


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    Post by Mr. Janus Thu Jan 26, 2023 11:27 am

    We all feel it.

    Me and my friend discussed it, she looked up at me as she was sitting on the floor of her mother's cramped apartment, a little corner by the wall designated for her that was kept all neat and tidy as she always does. She just said, "hey do you remember when we were kids and there was hope?" She was kind of playful as she said it so I laughed it off, still ripped my heart out though.



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    Post by Mr. Janus Thu Feb 02, 2023 9:17 am

    In light of recent OMF developments/drama.

    A little bit of wisdom from an unlikely source.

    Saw this the other day and thought of all of You.

    We could all benefit from the message here going forward.

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    Post by Mr. Janus Thu Feb 02, 2023 10:27 pm

    Lol.

    WITH!

    Yuh dummies!


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    Post by Mr. Janus Sun Feb 12, 2023 8:21 am

    BENEFICIAL COGNITIVE DIVERSITY



    > preventive measures <
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    Post by Mr. Janus Sun Feb 12, 2023 5:14 pm

    A new user has registered as simply "U2 "

    That is not the user of this account or the previous account (U) and is no one known to me.

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