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Who's Disclosure is Disclosure?

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The narrative war is in full swing. When there's a 100 different competing narratives, how is it possible to discern a disclosure?

Is it akin to which truth is Truth?




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Post by dan Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:29 am

First topic message reminder :

Bjc could stand for lots of things.  It’s possible to suppose that it stands Baltimore Junior College.  It’s possible to suppose that c stands for chick, which is short for chicken.  

Talk about a pink slip, yesterday, puts me in mind of being laid off, which puts me in mind of a retrospective.........

And a topic header does require at least ten characters.......

The allotted length for a thread is 40 pages...... giving us a chance to take the occasional breather...... as the show goes on.


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Post by Foot Mann Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:11 pm

That Man from Yucatan has been calling Dan. But Dan does not answer to the Man. He Discloses what he Can, before embarking in his Sedan.
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Post by dan Sun Aug 23, 2020 8:31 am

Someone was calling from a California number, but would leave no message.  

I don’t recall any particular person from the Yucatan trip.  

But at one point, I do recall that we had two cars.  They were leaving from another airport...... Cancun, I believe.
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Post by hobbit Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:28 am

dan wrote:Someone was calling from a California number, but would leave no message.  

I don’t recall any particular person from the Yucatan trip.  

But at one point, I do recall that we had two cars.  They were leaving from another airport...... Cancun, I believe.  

Do you know a Mr Smith that walks with a limp and has a walking cane of far eastern origin?

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Post by FatThorDude Sun Aug 23, 2020 11:09 am

The world is not a totality of facts and thus can not be a fact.

If there are no facts in the world, there are no meaningful propositions then about the state of the world as a whole.

Everything that can be said can be said clearly and without contradiction.

Wittgenstein’s propostiins are nonsense.

We have to surmount these propositions.

His book did not say anything meaningful, the Tractatus SHOWS something.

All is not in reality.

This is profound thinking.

This world has no ideologies.

No points can be argued.

All arguments are meaningless.

Do you see the Lion shaped clouds, now it looks like a dragon.

Do you see them too?!

That it what it is like to show this.

All explanations come to an end and you can only see it for yourself.

Does the world exist at all?

This is a nonsense problem.

You muppets should not enter this territory.

This is smelly’s world and you are out of your depth.

What can be said?

I wonder if Dan can see this?

Has he been SHOWN?

Has he SHOWN himself?

It is inexpressible and thus seems mystical.

It is mystical that the world is.

How can anything exist at all?

Is anything insignificant?

For thioze who only believe what language sayz, there can be no approach to thiz.

Muppets can see reality only through frosted glass.

We have fogged our minds.

The enlightenment then is a nightmare brought to life.

There is no box that separates us from the outside world.

We have false problems based on false suppositions.

No one can call anyone and say anything meaningful.

These are delusional activities.

Muppets seeking answers and disclosure of facts.

There are no facts.

There is nothing greater to disclose than that disclosure is nonsense.

All are deluded.

Why this delusion?

Why have muppets decided they will live in prison?

This is true realism, true solipsism.

Every problem is nonsense.

This leads to seeing astonishing reality.

We are estranged from reality.

Many false lights in our false world.

Our world is not based on reality, our culture is the rejection of reality.
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Post by FatThorDude Sun Aug 23, 2020 2:11 pm

We have such a deep heritage to cultivate and reap from and we settle for tic tacs and trump.

That world is a world unto itself.

With its own rules and no more fact than any other world.

That is not my world.

They have tried to remove themselves from reality, from themselves.

Look at how they thrash and attempt to outdo and hurt one another.

As the most powerful enslave the weakest, so we try to get away from our true poverty by inflicting it on others as a hedge against your own poverty.

If the others are impoverished while I am enriched, don’t I deserve it, what do I care, right?

That’s trumps line.

That’s how Christians have turned on their own faith.

Christianity is doing what it’s done for 2000 years, confusing the faithful to control them.

Well, I know there is another way than the lie of culture.

Totem wars is all we have here.

The game of myth.

The chaos is amusing.

As amusing as ☢ weapons.

We are ruled by monstrous 2D creatures, The state, the corporation, heaven and hell, the original memes.

Just paper tigers.

The secret is, their shadows are what we fear, but they burn like paper in the sun.

As does flesh.
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Post by dan Sun Aug 23, 2020 4:11 pm

2210z..........

The mystery person of the Yucatan was John S who was driving down to meet us there.  

But after some harrowing experiences with banditos on the way down, he had to turn around.  

Recall that John was a college mate of foot’s and has provided room and board for Kevin.


2330........

John read me the message...... something to the effect....... “there is no time to play, the rooster must go away.”

foot is up to his games again...... speaking of no time to play.  


0230........

Now the Continentalists have turned postmodern, and wish to deconstruct every narrative.  

They have succeeded with all but one....... the one they didn’t see coming.  



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Post by whoknows Sun Aug 23, 2020 5:50 pm



You say the hill's too steep to climb
Chiding
You say you'd like to see me try
Climbing
You pick the place and I'll choose the time
And I'll climb the hill in my own way
Just wait a while for the right day
And as I rise above the treeline and the clouds
I look down hearing the sound of the things you said today
Fearlessly the idiot faced the crowd
Smiling
Merciless, the magistrate turns 'round
Frowning
And who's the fool who wears the crown?
Go down in your own way
And everyday is the right day
And as you rise above the fear lines in his brow
You look down
Hear the sound of the faces in the crowd
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Post by GSB Mon Aug 24, 2020 6:04 am

A new artificial neural network model, created by Argonne scientists, handles both static and dynamic features of a power system with a relatively high degree of accuracy.

Argonne scientists discovered how to better control power systems. With a new neural network, lab scientists helped create new formulas that could bridge a power system’s static and dynamic features – a difficult feat.

America’s power grid system is not only large but dynamic, which makes it especially challenging to manage. Human operators know how to maintain systems when conditions are static. But when conditions change quickly, due to sudden faults for example, operators lack a clear way of anticipating how the system should best adapt to meet system security and safety requirements.

Power is the strongest of all enemies. The easiest thing to do is give in to it. We feel invincible, take risks, and make rules because we think we’re the master. We hardly notice this enemy closing in on us. Suddenly, without knowing, we’ve lost the battle. We turn into cruel, capricious people. We have no command over ourselves because we don’t know appropriate ways to use our power. We defeat this enemy by defying it deliberately. We understand that power without self control is worse than a mistake. With that awareness, we’re able to know how to use our power appropriately. And thus, we defeat this third enemy.


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Post by GSB Mon Aug 24, 2020 6:33 am

The Chicken is in the Stew. President Trump will win Anew. Ex-Discloser will be Adieu.

먹구름에 싸인
깊어지는 밤
내려쳐라 Thunder
Drop thunder 굳게
걸어 잠글게 BOCA

Where is the love
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널 아프게 한다면
열지 못하게 BOCA



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Post by dan Mon Aug 24, 2020 8:49 am

The rooster is not the chicken......... maybe he’s going to pluck the duck.  

If foot is not playing to the dark audience, his erudition is being lost.  

But John S is alleged to be a poet in his own right. 

foot’s having to pluck the chicken, even on a daily basis, is alleged to be the dirtiest job in town.  

But not to fear, donny is going to win by the greatest margin in history...... well, very recent history..... and make America great again...... again.   

And certainly don’t sell short your Trump memorabilia.  

I’m long on the short world, and short on the long world.  



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Post by Chim Mon Aug 24, 2020 9:41 am

Watch @donfolden's broadcast: As a Black Republican I haven’t seen any White Republican support...#Truthconductor

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Post by dan Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:03 pm

1800z......... 

Ack, 

Thank you for Don Folden........ he’s alright...... especially after Wittgenstein & Co.    

I don’t think we have any more Wittgensteins or Nietzsches out there.  Phenomenology has been taken over by deconstruction.  The analyticians are still in business, but they don’t seem to have gone anywhere...... not since Kripke...... taking necessity to be a metaphysical concept, in place of the epistemic a priori.  

After Kripke, analysis appears to have fragmented into many sub disciplines, none of which has been able to speak to culture at large.  

The mind-brain problem remains insolvable.  


1920....... 

It is far from clear that the understanding of the problem has progressed in the new millennium...... as it has been addressed in the philosophy of AI.  


2010.........,

With postmodernism, philosophy has effectively disintegrated.  

Philosophy may only be reintegrated by a radical stroke...... and thus the small world.  

Just as much as the human is a social animal, so is she a philosophical animal.  We do seek bases of communication....... common meanings that could take us beyond mere survival, even.  

We seek the Logos Spermatikos....... which must be something in the image of love. 

History is the story of seeking love in all the wrong places.  

What brings us back to the Source?  How do we know there was a Source?  


2200............ 

Amongst the first page of google references for logos spermatikos is this oldie but goodie.......   http://www.bestpossibleworld.com/aAquarium/LogosSpermatikos.html 



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Post by FatThorDude Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:29 pm

dan wrote:Ack, 

Thank you for Don Folden........ he’s alright...... especially after Wittgenstein & Co.    

I don’t think we have any more Wittgensteins or Nietzsches out there.  Phenomenology has been taken over by deconstruction.  The analyticians are still in business, but they don’t seem to have gone anywhere...... not since Kripke...... taking necessity to be a metaphysical concept, in place of the epistemic a priori.  



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Apparently, you never met UG Dan, he's pretty good at deconstructing.

But I personally am not taking my world apart, it's blossomed new.

It is nice to just enjoy the flowers and not wonder why or how flowers.

In fact, I don't wonder how or why anything.

Things happen
Dog barks

“Two fishes swimming in the sea not more lawless than we.”


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Post by Chim Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:31 pm

Amen brother.

It is nice to enjoy the flowers.
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Post by FatThorDude Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:39 pm

Our politics are severely broken, I thought this the best hopeful discussion in awhile below and it even has portals. I begrudgingly joined Ted's youtube even.

I have no allegiance to Republicans, Anarchists, or Democrats, I'm a pragmatic/mystical free thinker, so we just have to stop tearing each other down. We have more in common than not, so here is to more open dialogue minus the emotions.



Who would not want to make progress and improve things?

Those who want to keep the system broken.

This is where the Republicans are dead wrong, so wrong.

Kaizen, you must make incremental improvement from where you are.

That's what drives business!

You can't have each side burn the other side down every 4 years unless you want our politics broken and plenty of people want our politics broken.

To them I say...FUCK you, get off the earth, we have to live here together, get over it, get used to it, you don't always get your way or say, deal with it.

And if they try to talk about God or Prophecy or the Apocalypse or the Kali Yuga, kick them hard and RUN!

SMELLY EL CHIVO 2020!!!

I call my party, the Kicking Birds.
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Post by dan Tue Aug 25, 2020 7:09 am

1310z........

What brings us back to the Source? 

History does....... so does the reopening of the portals.  

So does the shrinking of the world....... along with the diminution of our visions, especially those based on material growth.

Material growth has been the driver of history.  

So has technical innovation.  

Why not growth and innovation for ever? 

There may be physical limits to material progress.  

We must keep looking for technical breakthroughs, but we need also be cognizant of the implied teleology and the attendant Telos.  

Philosophy, being the handmaiden of science, has forsworn teleology. 

Philosophy has sold its soul to science....... so we are left with scientific  and dialectical materialism........ with existentialism and humanism. 

Teleology barely ever had a foothold in our thinking.  

It was a murky idea embedded in ancient wisdom....... that there was some sort of Source...... that there was perhaps an underlying unity.  

Science put all its marbles in the atomic grab bag.  

Analysis was in...... holism was out..... it was to be atoms swerving in the dark.  


1400.......... 

Somehow, any thought of a vital force...... of archetypes.... of entelechies..... was consigned to the flames...... mechanism prevailed.  

Any thought of a higher influence was anti human.  

Such a thought threatened to remove all human agency.  

It does..... it will.  

Humans are stuck between the atoms and angels.  

Don’t we prize our freedom above all else? 

Well, our freedoms often turn out to be fungible...... relative to the comforts of society..... with all its restrictions.  

Freedom is also enmeshed with our sense of the unidirection of time, but time may turn out to be our primary illusion.  

Time is illusory if it is embedded in Eternity.  


1500........

Portals are our windows on Eternity.  

With portals, our freedom goes out the window.  

You can understand the reluctance to throw open the windows. 

Will the best possible..... the only possible..... Metanarrative settle down upon us as a pall of orthodoxy? 

Will we even be inclined to fight City Hall?  

Some will....... but briefly.  

Destiny will beckon.  It will never be more than a stone’s throw away.  

Monadnock or bust! 

Our concerns and grievances?  What happened on Earth stays on Earth.  

Will we not come this way again?  

Rest assured...... we already have...... virtually ad infinitum.......

Such is our best possible....... only possible..... world.  

Does fatalism prevail?  It does...... the best possible fatalism.  

We do ride the rapids back to the Source.  Our canoes 🛶 will be leaky and tippy.  

We try to follow the light, but be prepared for a good dunking..... or two...... 



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Post by FatThorDude Tue Aug 25, 2020 10:39 am

Nothing takes you away or brings you to the source.

Let that idea go.

Source, no, this.

Just this.

Hey, if you can't realize it, sorry.

It's right here.

Enjoy your snipe hunt, I do enjoy watching you snipe.
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Post by hobbit Tue Aug 25, 2020 1:37 pm

https://freedomplatform.tv/plandemic-indoctornation-world-premiere/

Fact checkers???????

Who the hell are they??????

Word manipulators, spin paid manipulators.

As We are been dragged into a CASEDEMIC where supposed TEST results are been presented as FACTUAL evidence of a virus and more and more control of our natural immune system is been inhibited to force ever more dependence on drugs and vaccines.....is this the new world desired??????, and by who or what????


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Don't know.
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Post by dan Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:56 am

1400z............

Here comes the Sun....... 

Who invented the Sun? 

Who invented the Earth? 

Well, if there was going to be play, there needed to be a stage.  

Then it was lights, camera, action....... 

Why lights? 

In dreams, we don’t need lights.   Abductees report no light sources aboard the craft.  

Some theories place the origin of life at the bottom of the ocean, in proximity to hydrothermal vents.  

Why not have point sources of nutrients?  

Well, we do, but it’s in the sky.  

But how did the Sun emerge out of the primordial Dreamtime? 

It had to do with metabolism...... and with seeds.   

And why not a flat Earth? 

Why not an infinite, flat Earth?  

The world could not then be personal....... we would have no soulmates.   

That leaves us with a big sky.  

The Sun can be as big as we want, and as far as we want.  

Then we just have to work out the proportions........ that has to do with E8xE8 and the Monster Group, ie. the Anthropic Principle. 

Why bother with mathematics?  

Mathematics is the great naturalizer....... the great equalizer...... it can be the ground of the fragmented being of the Logos...... what we call Creation.  

Mathematics & Love are the glue of being...... and they are the two sides of the Logos.  



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Post by 99 Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:44 am

smelly wrote:Enjoy your snipe hunt, I do enjoy watching you snipe.

That ol' dog don't hunt, he lectures.
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Post by dan Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:54 am

1500z.........

Hunting for the Source......... 

The Sun is a false source...... it is a false god.  

Our true Source had to be hidden....... had to be made inter dimensional..... just like the flying saucers 🛸....... 

Our true Source had to be hidden within...... and behind the green door....... behind the Hive of our concave Earth 🌍...... the realm of the Princess 👸.   

The Hive also functions as the river Styx....... and she can make a tempest in her teapot...... if you should trespass. 

But, in the End, the doors to Hades will be thrown open.  

That is when to follow the light.  

Will we live to see that day?  It was said before....... there will be some of us....... 

Hades, like the Earth, is bursting at the seams.  


1550....... 

Perhaps the message is that Disclosure cannot be piecemeal.  

It will be all or nothing....... it will be the PoNR...... no turning back.  


1930........ 

I’ve said why the Sun must be, but not how it works.   



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Post by 99 Wed Aug 26, 2020 9:27 am

Let The River Run (to the New Jerusalem)



We're coming to the edge
Running on the water
Coming through the fog
Your sons and daughters

Let the river run
Let all the dreamers
Wake the nation
Come, the New Jerusalem

My comment: I woke up after a dream last week hearing that song being sung and then a voice saying "South Florida". Then, later that day, the news reported a second possible hurricane that was being formed in the Caribbean.

I think this current hurricane, Laura, which brushed by the keys in its initial contact point with the US, is going to be a real whopper as it journey's up the Gulf coast.

It could be a lot worse than what's being reported about it now in the news and on the weather station.

I hope not.... but that dream I had makes me wonder about that.

The phrase "the New Jerusalem" in that song is interesting to say the least.

The "river" being the river Styx.
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Post by 99 Wed Aug 26, 2020 9:52 am

Wow, while I was typing my last post... this just popped up in the news:

Hurricane Laura to hit Texas, Louisiana as Category 4 with 'unsurvivable storm surge'

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/08/26/hurricane-laura-path-update-storm-category-4-texas-louisiana/3441543001/

Yup... it's a bad one.
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Post by FatThorDude Wed Aug 26, 2020 2:20 pm

dan wrote:1500z.........

Hunting for the Source......... 

The Sun is a false source...... it is a false god.  
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1930........ 

I’ve said why the Sun must be, but not how it works.   

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Naaaaa, you are way confusing life here in this post Wink

It's all happening now, no need to wait for anything.

And all you got it is the Sun and you should be thankful for the heat.

Hope in anything other than what is here is really I think evil, Heidegger and Wittgenstein feel the same basically.

"Heidegger is describing lived-experiences, but not in a way that makes the “I” into a subject and not in a way that reestablishes the subject-object distinction. Heidegger looks to lived-experiences to show how the human being is embedded within contexts of meaning."

It is not a problem really, but ourlanguagee is unclear and we have no words for intuitional experience.

Your meaning and life is grounded in your own experience.

The original sin was taking your attention off of this, which is just a metaphor for duality.

Talk to the new GPT-3 AI philospher Dan. I'm sure you guys can have a good conversation.

https://philosopherai.com/

I quite enjoyed speaking with it, it doesn't know what it is saying, but hell it mimics us in an eerie way.

Why do you distract yourself so much Dan?

Is your life not happy these days?

Do you have to inflict that doubt on others?

You think muppets are up to this life here?!

They have to be.

I am here for them, which is myself.

Why are you here and speaking?

And who is speaking anyway?

The Subject is the one under the light here and the more you look into this, the more you seem to just fade away.

But the Subject has all sorts of tricks and ways to hide and take over.

Rascally wabbit.

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