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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    First topic message reminder :

    It looks like we’re running up,against the 40 page allotment from the last thread......

    And I’m still with Tulsi, unless there is a better suggestion......
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    Post by dan Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:49 am

    99,

    Humility.........?

    What precious little I have, I learn from the smelly foot.



    All portals lead to Rome....... of course.  

    It’s just that some of them have some very serious detours.  

    We attempt to make straight the way.  

    And you do want to watch out for those zombie....... juj wa majuj portals.  


    3:10.........

    foot keeps inviting me to be cannon fodder.  Don’t worry about being shot out of the cannon....... there’s a net at the other end...... 3.5 will be there with the cotton candy.  

    Ok, smelly, you got yourself a promotion to being the dark horse...... don’t let it go to your head, goat boy.



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    Post by 99 Wed Jul 31, 2019 12:02 pm

    dan wrote:99, 

    Humility.........? 

    What precious little I have, I learn from the smelly foot. 

    There you go again Dan.... letting someone else take credit for one of your strong attributes is so typical of what you do all the time. 

    You should be canonized Dan.... seriously. 

    As for smelly being the 4th horsemen.... sounds good to me! I mean, why not?

    ---------------
    Just did a look-up of The Pale Horse as we Catholics are not familiar with stuff like this.... at least not in depth like so many of you nonCatholics are. 

    "When the Lamb broke the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature saying, "Come." I looked, and behold, an ashen horse; and he who sat on it had the name Death; and Hades was following with him. Authority was given to them over a fourth of the earth, to kill with sword and with famine and with pestilence and by the wild beasts of the earth"
    — Revelation 6:7-8 NASB


    Suggestion: I would ask smelly if that's what he wants to be because it sounds a little scary.  affraid  
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    Update: Ok, it's too late now. It looks like Smelly has been promoted! Yikes!


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    Post by 99 Wed Jul 31, 2019 12:18 pm

    Ques: Dan, what do you think of crop circles? You and your friend created a crop circle org. so I assume that you must have taken them seriously as something that falls into the paranormal category, right?
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    Post by dan Wed Jul 31, 2019 12:23 pm

    Behold a pale horse...... MWC (1991).

    Crop circles........?  The navy took them seriously, and that’s how I met foot.


    Back to panpsychism, with particular regard to the SEP......

    Is this our royal road back to the Source....... the mental crutch for the wise guys?  

    Panpsychism is murder to the AI boys.  Quantum computers would have to be very finely tuned...... manually.  Imagine an analog quantum computer.  


    3:50.......

    Out in circle country, there is in interesting blur between dimensions.  
    ...........


    Constitutive cosmopsychism—The view that all facts are grounded in/realized by/constituted of consciousness-involving facts at the cosmic-level.
    Don’t you love it when philosophers talk dirty.  

    Someone is loading those philosophical dice.  

    As an historical note, panpsychism was forced upon by the analytical philosophers....... bless their analytical hearts.  

    Just as immaterialism is being forced upon us by the physicists.

    Contemporary philosophers tend to assume that fundamental things exist at the micro-level. Coleman (2006) calls this “smallism”: the view that facts about big things are grounded in facts about little things, e.g., the table exists and is the way it is because the particles making it up are related in certain extremely complicated ways. However, the work of Jonathan Schaffer (2010) has recently brought to prominence an alternative picture of reality. According to the view Schaffer calls “priority monism”, facts about little things are grounded in facts about big things.
    Stick that in your computers...... all you computationalists.  

    The table’s atoms exist and are the way they are because the table exists and is the way it is; and all things ultimately exist and are the way they are because of certain facts about the universe as a whole. For the priority monist there is one and only one fundamental thing: the universe.
    I apologize, sports fans, I may have seriously underestimated my fellow philosophers.



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    Post by 99 Wed Jul 31, 2019 12:42 pm

    dan wrote:Behold a pale horse...... MWC (1991).

    Crop circles........?  The navy took them seriously, and that’s how I met foot.  

    The navy took them seriously? That's interesting. Didn't know that. Some say that they are a manifestation of a higher consciousness and I've always wondered if the man-made ones are that too.

    Also "Behold a pale horse" Never read the book but maybe it's time I do. Thanks.
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    Post by hobbit Wed Jul 31, 2019 1:14 pm

    hobbit wrote:"Torture and paedophilia"
    At the Vatican?, surely not?
    I mean religions are all about love and god, aren't they?

    So!, what is the purpose of such acts?

    You are hinting that it enables the opening of portals, nes pas?

    So!, what's the key?


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    Post by hobbit Wed Jul 31, 2019 1:15 pm

    "crop circles.....dimensions"???????

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    Post by dan Wed Jul 31, 2019 1:19 pm

    You are a persistent little hobbit.  

    Now you understand why Benedict might have wished to consult with a princess.

    Dimensions is a term of deliberate ambiguity....... generally pointing in a metaphysical direction, but also including the ‘physical’, of course.
    ........


    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/31/business/jeffrey-epstein-eugenics.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage
    Mr. Epstein’s vision reflected his longstanding fascination with what has become known as transhumanism: the science of improving the human population through technologies like genetic engineering and artificial intelligence. Critics have likened transhumanism to a modern-day version of eugenics......
    Transhumanism is the reductio ad absurdum of materialism.  

    Gary, I hope, is taking notes...... Seth Lloyd is prominently mentioned.  

    It appears that Jeff has the capacity to take down the entire materialist establishment in one fell swoop...... bless his heart.  

    When you go to the materialist watering trough...... you are seriously asking for it.  

    Jeff had most of their numbers....... bless his little black book, and the black heart behind it.  

    When God goes fishing, you want to be sure which side of the boat you are on.  

    If I were donny, I might want to change my phone number...... right about now.  
    By 2007, Epstein was reported to have been banned from Trump's club.
    donny skates on by...... well, at least until he appointed Acosta.... https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jul/09/labor-secretary-alexander-acosta-sex-trafficking-budget-cut  Someone might want to investigate this one.  
    Alexander Acosta, the US labor secretary under fire for having granted Jeffrey Epstein immunity from federal prosecution in 2008, after the billionaire was investigated for having run a child sex trafficking ring, is proposing 80% funding cuts for the government agency that combats child sex trafficking.

    Maybe I got thrown under the Bus, just in the nick of time.  

    I’ll embrace the deplorables, but maybe not the trafficking.



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    Post by hobbit Wed Jul 31, 2019 1:34 pm

    dan wrote:You are a persistent little hobbit.  

    Now you understand why Benedict might have wished to consult with a princess.  
    https://www.cropcirclesandmore.com/geometries/200702mhm.html

    Sophia resides in nine.


    This little persistent hobbit has wandered about in the east field in fields of gold.


    It matches the geometry of where cathedrals are located.


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Jul 31, 2019 1:44 pm

    Oooooo...the dark horse.



    American Cosmic full of experiencers who found a portal and attuned to the phenomena.

    People have seen Pucas.

    What have I fallen into?

    I’ve seen too much.

    The abyss grins at me mockingly.

    The Dude abides.
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    Post by SurfBum Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:54 pm

    Someone asked, "The universal truth-what is it?"
    Joshu said, "Heaven protect me from the devil."
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:30 pm

    Ack wrote:Someone asked, "The universal truth-what is it?"
    Joshu said, "Heaven protect me from the devil."

    Don’t know.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:56 pm

    You know, Space Jesus has some great lighting.

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    Post by dan Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:34 am

    Doing just a bit catching up with panpsychism is revealing........

    The takeaway is that materialism is in a state of free fall, intellectually.  

    The second observation is that ufology strongly reflects this development.  

    The TTSA initiative, however, is very deliberately biased toward a material worldview.  

    There is an inside effort to push Disclosure away from anything metaphysical.

    These latter two developments do not represent a strategy for Disclosure, but rather a final, tactical ploy...... a final positioning of a forward element of Disclosure...... the final feint.  

    Once the battle is engaged, the best laid plans will not hold.  

    The one strategy that might hold up is to occupy the high ground.  

    Is there a high ground......?

    How about Monadnock? Is there any other high ground.

    In what sense might it be occupied?

    There’s the rub......

    If the Monad exists, it is occupied in eternity.

    The best available human strategy is to cozy up to Eternity.

    I was already fairly cozy, but, with 2&3 holding my hand, I was definitely given a hand up.



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:57 am

    Bahahaha

    The fools are totally out of their depth.

    Reacting like monkeys do.

    This is Cosmic.

    Perfect!

    Space Jesus 2020


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    Post by GSB/SSR Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:59 am

    Materialism: the last stand?

    A top Republican on the House Homeland Security Committee is seeking more details from the Navy on recent reports of "unidentified aerial phenomenon," including what resources it is using to investigate the mysterious sightings and whether it has "found physical evidence or otherwise" to substantiate them.


    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/07/30/navy-mark-walker-ufo-1441105



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:00 am

    GSB/SSR wrote:Materialism: the last stand?

    A top Republican on the House Homeland Security Committee is seeking more details from the Navy on recent reports of "unidentified aerial phenomenon," including what resources it is using to investigate the mysterious sightings and whether it has "found physical evidence or otherwise" to substantiate them.


    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/07/30/navy-mark-walker-ufo-1441105


    When Space Jesus is president, he’ll get to the bottom of this.
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    Post by dan Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:13 am

    smelly,

    I guess what I’m suggesting is that already there must be a sleeper cell in place.  

    We are the sleepers....... we are the chrysalis.

    How many Jesuses are already lined up for the Jesus slot?  

    And where will the rubber meet the road?  

    With Disclosure, we have craft >> critter >> message.  

    The Message will definitely have to contain a sizable chunk of the Truth..... a sizable chunk of the Telos/Monad...... if any such thing exists.  

    Disclosure will have to be a package deal.  I think we’re a bit beyond the dribs and drabs....... the crumbs off the Table.  

    There will have to be an invitation to join the Banquet...... at the End of the Universe.  

    The first thing that folks will be wondering is....... where is the Great Chain of Being.....?  

    And, if there is one, where do we fit?  

    Surely, it must be way down on totem pole.  


    11:40...........

    We have to ask ourselves if God has been a tyrant, keeping us down on the Earth for all these years?  

    Does it do any good to say that all of us are soulmates....... that what we do to the least of us we do to all of us?  

    This is true if we are the promulgators of the chain of Being...... if ultimately we are not separate from the Source.  

    Are we, individually, guilty for all the evil in the world?

    Can we not spread the blame...... hide behind our soulmates?

    Is Creation not too great a burden for anyone...... for everyone?



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    Near the bottom.
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    What bottom?

    What chain of being?
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    Post by whoknows Thu Aug 01, 2019 10:47 am

    I think it's all about density waves created by our consciousnesses..

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNqji-7Tj3E

    Words come out like warm water
    Words come out like warm water
    Feeling through years to slowly learn her
    Words come out like warm water
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    Dreaming is a pattern cut in darkness
    We've made pain a surface for remembering
    Piecing shapes out of the same colour
    But I'll try, it's hard to discern dark parts
    Words come out like warm water
    Words come out like warm water
    Feeling through years to slowly learn her
    Words come out like warm water
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    Letting truth break through the other side of Concrete
    Growing from the hope that we can know from not knowing
    There are facts that remain relieving
    There is a door
    There is a frame
    There is a shape
    There is a name
    The dream it carries the words around
    Adjectives that miss the point
    the dream it carries
    Words come out like warm water
    (She said)
    Words come out like warm water
    (She said)
    Feeling through years to slowly learn her
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Aug 01, 2019 11:20 am

    Ack wrote:What bottom?

    What chain of being?

    You ask too many questions.

    Those who don’t know, should be silent.

    Hanshan wrote:A thousand clouds, ten thousand streams,
    Here I live, an idle man,
    Roaming green peaks by day,
    Back to sleep by cliffs at night.
    One by one, springs and autumns go,
    Free of heat and dust, my mind.
    Sweet to know there’s nothing I need,
    Silent as the autumn river’s flood.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Aug 01, 2019 11:27 am

    We jump to the beat of the phenomenon.

    Cosmic Will

    Tao

    Flow

    Destiny Waves

    Our lives are not just our own.

    We share it with everything.

    I feel, no, I know that is our destiny to realize.

    Science haggles over how to handle Consciousness.

    A real hot potato.

    I know that if we had all of reality, we couldn’t exist.

    But we do exist.

    It isn’t for us to know reality.

    It is for us to be here as this now.

    It’s ok to know more about being here.

    Under how many layers are we covered in the seed?

    Don’t know, but it’s deep.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Aug 01, 2019 11:54 am

    You can observe the incredible E8 structure and marvel at being.

    Wonder as a child.

    If we knew it all, we wouldn’t wonder.

    Like it’s an accident the inverted triangles at its center mirror as above, so below and match the ancient Jewish illustrations.

    What a setup.



    Have you ever thanked creation for boogers?

    With all this smallness and largeness around us, we can pick our nose when we need to.

    Cosmos contains boogers.

    And a lot of other beautiful and horrid things.

    Here we are though floating in just the right way to be able to pick our nose.

    Brilliant!

    The smelly goat knows a lot, but he forgets it all.

    Reality, what a concept.



    During my psychedelic trips with Ayahuasca, I saw the E8 and a lot of weird geometry, inside out stuff.  

    Also I saw many other symbols, dna caduceus especially, like Hermès staff, pulsing blue the size of the Washington monument.

    Messenger of the Gods shit.

    A little boy from Virginia went Cosmic dudes.

    I found this smelly goat along the way.

    Were my trips any less real than ufos?

    I think not.

    Slowly, the phenomenon leads me on.

    I now theorize I entered one hell of a portal with my UDV Indian friends.

    It was direct contact or as close as we can get to the phenomenon.

    Many synchronicities before convinced me to drink.

    I had to be convinced.

    My Christian faith, what was left, evaporated as soon as I went through.

    Some try to fit the phonomenon into their belief systems.

    Uh uh.

    Listen to the loathsome smelly goat here, destroy your idols.

    HULK smash!

    Or you can’t break away.

    If you can’t break away, it’s ok, you’re too conditioned or dumbz.

    I don’t talk to dummiez.

    I fart on the conditioned.

    Here I talk out loud to no one.

    It’s a goat thang.

    Anyway...

    I knew I had to drink.

    I was driven to it over 6 months before.

    I knew I might die or lose my mind.

    I wondered as I drank that horrid smelling tasting brew, what lay hidden beneath the waves.

    I found out, oh boy.

    That inner world erupted into my outer world and it was wonderful chaos.

    I said fuck it and jumped.

    You have to jump.

    Dan’s right about that.

    Then somehow you know what you need to know when you need to know it.

    And that’s ok.

    Wonderful relief even.

    Hands off the fucking wheel!

    Ezekiel’s wheel spins.

    I saw that shit too.

    I’m not scared of this anymore.

    Fuck it dudes, abide it.

    Straight on.
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    Post by 99 Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:49 pm

    Smelly, remind me to never request that you leave a trail of breadcrumbs to your secret yurt as I may be tempted to follow it and, thus, never see the light of day again… that is except if your Shiba Inu can lead me back from whence I came that by then will have changed into Paraguay.
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    From a Paraguay tourist site in FAQ section:

    Is Paraguay a safe place to visit?
    OVERALL RISK : MEDIUM. Paraguay is generally a safe country though it has its many dangers in the form of petty crime, violent crime, decapitations, poisonous blow-dart fatalities, tropical diseases, smuggling, money laundering, armed drug cartels, corrupt police and many other. Just apply basic precaution measures and you should be fine.
    My comment: Uh, ok.[gulp]. I feel much better now just knowing this.  Neutral


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