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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:04 pm

    First topic message reminder :

    It looks like we’re running up,against the 40 page allotment from the last thread......

    And I’m still with Tulsi, unless there is a better suggestion......
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    Post by dan Fri Aug 09, 2019 10:19 am

    wk,

    I don’t tolerate sniping, on this thread.  

    If you you have a criticism to make, have the courtesy and fortitude to state your critique in your own words.  

    But even this is not enough........  deconstruction is not enough.  You must have the fortitude to state and defend your own worldview.

    However, you do drop breadcrumbs......

    You mention Terry Pratchett, a noted humanist.....

    Your interest in magic suggests that you are familiar with the work of James Randi.



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    Post by whoknows Fri Aug 09, 2019 10:32 am

    Sniping?

    My comment was in no way a snipe.

    I was, in fact, talking to everyone including myself.

    I will say one thing though.

    The one thing we all seem to have gotten, is Love.

    The trick is not to just know it but to actuate it, and that we can only do within our selves...

    Let it shine baby!
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    Post by dan Fri Aug 09, 2019 10:35 am

    Yes, wk,

    ........ ye of little faith......

    You make it sound as though love is a game of solitaire.

    You are one confused puppy......

    I’ve always supposed that it takes at least two to tango.

    In fact, this, perhaps naive, assumption is the rock upon which I construct the best possible world.



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    Post by SurfBum Fri Aug 09, 2019 10:40 am

    http://www.christosophia.org/essaysthesacredmarriage.html

    speaking of two to tango....

    Jesus and Sophia know how to tango real well.


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    Post by whoknows Fri Aug 09, 2019 10:40 am

    LOL

    Love has nothing to do with faith.

    And it certainly not a game of solitaire.

    It's, I hope, what I share always in every thing I do and say.
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    Post by dan Fri Aug 09, 2019 10:46 am

    wk,

    Stop the presses, please........

    We have a cosmic News Flash....... love has nothing to do with faith.....!!!
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    Post by whoknows Fri Aug 09, 2019 10:48 am

    Yup.

    What a silly thing to make it a thing of faith.

    Me thinks you put to much faith in faith alone...
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    Post by SurfBum Fri Aug 09, 2019 10:51 am

    Love without faith is dead.
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    Post by whoknows Fri Aug 09, 2019 10:55 am

    The thing that really gets me is every one seems to think they are the only stable person in a unstable world.

    I beg to differ in that we are all freaking insane and that our only life line is Love.

    If we do grab that life line it becomes a tangible not a matter of faith.
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    Post by whoknows Fri Aug 09, 2019 10:56 am

    Ack. wrote:Love without faith is dead

    Yes the work is Love.

    LOL trying to misdirect there?
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    Post by dan Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:02 am

    wk is just overflowing with cosmic truths, today........

    Ok, love is tangible.........

    Hmmm.........

    My mommy taught me that a mutual love necessarily entails a mutual commitment.  

    What is commitment, if not an act of faith and trust?  

    The jealous lover may not get that.  

    Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
    wk, is this a proper characterization of love?



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    Post by whoknows Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:09 am

    I only have my truths, but what ever they are at the moment are no less truth than anyone else's

    https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2019/8/8/20706126/motivated-perception-psychology


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:09 am

    I barely know Love.

    I have no truth.

    Love washes them away.

    It burns.

    Good to know I’m in the company of so many love experts.

    Those in Love speak as lovers.

    I speak of the universe as a Lover.

    I am in love and it strips me.

    I write poetry about it.

    I sing to the sky.

    I don’t give a shit what you know.

    How can you know Love?

    Faith?

    No, trembling.

    Sing!
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    Post by SurfBum Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:18 am

    I know just what I need to know about love just as I need to know it.

    I sing with the trumpet of logos!
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    Post by whoknows Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:22 am

    LOL, smelly, I know what you mean, I've been trying to fathom love most of my life and still don't think I totally get it.

    But isn't that the thing.

    Love I think has many parts to know.

    I'll never be able to say it in a way that way that could make you happy.

    But that's not my job and one I would refuse.

    Love man that's the ticket.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:23 am

    No Ack, you speak nonsense out of your ass.

    Not personal.

    Not real.

    You are a pretender to love as the first day I met you.

    You are not broken iron.

    You think you know.

    You know shit.

    Pretender says what?


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    Post by whoknows Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:25 am

    thanks for that enlightened BS judgment smelly... I expect no more of you.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:25 am

    whoknows wrote:LOL, smelly, I know what you mean, I've been trying to fathom love most of my life and still don't think I totally get it.

    But isn't that the thing.

    Love I think has many parts to know.

    I'll never be able to say it in a way that way that could make you happy.

    But that's not my job and one I would refuse.

    Love man that's the ticket.

    Just be real about love in your life here.

    The struggles with it.

    The tears.

    The joys.

    That’s how we stand together.

    That’s what we can share and relate about.

    I want to hear you sing about it from your heart.

    I want to hear the agony of your cries.

    Who cares what I want.


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:26 am

    whoknows wrote:thanks for that enlightened BS judgment smelly... I expect no more of you.

    That last post I was kidding with ack, sorry Wink

    And it’s good not to have expectations of others.

    But your low opinion is telling.

    Where’s the love dude?


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    Post by dan Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:27 am

    wk and smelly,

    Has either one of you ever experienced hope?
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:30 am

    I don’t need hope.

    I’m here.

    It all burned up.
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    Post by SurfBum Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:30 am

    Smelly and I go way back. What he says to me is not something I take too personally.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:33 am

    He should take it all personally.

    It’s only personal.

    There is nothing to be learned from entities.

    It’s about the persons.


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    Post by dan Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:37 am

    Ok...... this is something that smelly and I have conversed about......

    Anyone........ what is the value of a person?

    It might be a range of values, but just give us a ballpark estimate.......

    This is a question that is particularly addressed toward humanism, but it should be of vital concern to all.  
    .........


    Good, yes, I thought so.......

    I still know how to quiet a noisy room......
    .............


    Before wk interrupted with his gratuitous attempt at deconstruction, I was speaking with Cy about Armageddon.......



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    Post by SurfBum Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:41 am

    Smelly,
    Noted.



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