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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    It looks like we’re running up,against the 40 page allotment from the last thread......

    And I’m still with Tulsi, unless there is a better suggestion......
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    Post by Foot Mann Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:23 pm

    The Princess has a fountain. It soon has started to flow. It climbed atop the mountain. From there she let it go.
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    Post by 99 Wed Jul 24, 2019 5:20 am

    Saw that fountain just a few  minutes ago.... it looked like green water too.

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    Am having a problem with my keyboard but I just wanted to add that the "fountain" of bright green water sprang up like fireworks. Saw this as a mind's eye vision just as I woke up this morning at 7:15 AM.

    Let's just say I'M IMPRESSED.

    LOL... I'm even shaking a little... no kidding.

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    Ha! I read Footmann's post soon after he posted it and then forgot about it. Really don't like those "lost in translation" games he's plays so I didn't even make any attempt to interpret it 

    NEVERTHELESS.... I wake up seeing that vision and am very surprised by that.
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    Post by dan Wed Jul 24, 2019 6:05 am

    Hmmm........

    It looks like l missed something.  

    I hope I’m not late to the party.  

    You can call me anything, just don’t call me late to dinner.


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    Curious, as I dreamed about a fountain of "crap" ... Shocked (I'm not kidding!)


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    Post by 99 Wed Jul 24, 2019 6:16 am

    It's almost Mueller time. Not expecting much though.
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    Gary, well, there you have it.... lol. 
    But my vision was stunning. Very beautiful.
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    Post by hobbit Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:01 am

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/mysteries-consciousness/201907/what-if-consciousness-comes-first?fbclid=IwAR3vrhHaBH-M5ms5pLo8REA1B-uGtZI_9uUSJefsCRXIXEqPapBZTjaRpEE


    What if.
    Of course it does.

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    Post by dan Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:48 am

    Thank you, hobbit........ very good essay.

    I’ve witnessed very many, very clever people who have never been able to grasp the possibility that consciousness is both the Alpha and the Omega of existence.

    Gary, here, is among them.  Isn’t that right, Gary?   Gary thinks he is so terribly clever.

    And, once again, Aaron/Ack is threatening to desert the ship.  

    He is sounding adamant about it.  I ask if he is deserting........?

    No response........

    I ask for any sort of explanation..........

    No response.........

    An earlier text........ quoting someone else.....
    "I watched the Princess for many years. Every moment of that discovery contributed to my enlightenment, but a few events stood out as particularly significant. One was related to the statement that she would not transfer to my custody until after the death of the Father. Several times he passed away, but she would have none of it, so he promptly returned home. Only when she was ready for the transition did he depart. For years I failed to have a clear picture of these events, looking at them from the false perspective of a single continuum in time where events follow one after the other. For the Princess time is like an infinite set of strings that can be tied in one manner or another, with adjustable intersections."

    That last post from foot could be interpreted as a positive response to the suggested tweet from Monday....... I’m happy to so interpret it.

    I’m not going to let myself turn blue in face, waiting on the President.



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    Post by hobbit Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:31 am

    Aaron,

    For thee t'old flower.




    Please don't go.


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:03 am

    People come and people go Dan.

    Chalmers more and more sounds like he thinks consciousness is primary as maybe a feature of the universe.

    I agree with him, that in no way validates our religious views.

    The mind can make almost anything appear in its Magick mirror.

    After clearing my head, my feeling is we have made it all up or consciousness has given us these symbols.

    This is consciousness.

    There is a lot more of this kind of talk over last 4 years.

    Perhaps our heads are clearing the cloud just a bit.


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    Post by dan Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:06 am

    smelly,

    If Chalmers is correct, then we are within spitting distance of the best possible world.

    Maybe you can think of reason why Aaron had to desert the ship.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:13 am

    Aaron is a bit mixed up Dan.

    Too many inputs perhaps.

    He’s uncomfortable maybe.

    I’m pretty chill these days.

    If he chills out it won’t matter what happens and he won’t avoid what’s happening.

    Just my opinion.

    It’s just ego that wants to hide.

    Trump is just a side show.

    In the big tent, consciousness flies through the air with the greatest of ease.

    Is consciousness a child?

    When Aaron wants to not do something, isn’t that just consciousness?

    Isn’t ego consciousness?

    Perhaps we have many things wrong taking them as real.
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    Post by dan Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:26 am

    smelly,

    I just don’t want Aaron to be absconding with my Princess..... stated as courtier, of course.

    I’m counting on 3.5, of course.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:34 am

    I don’t think Aaron matters to that.

    Sounds like this is between you and the princess.

    Isn’t all that just consciousness Wink
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    Post by hobbit Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:46 am

    smelly wrote:Aaron is a bit mixed up Dan.

    Too many inputs perhaps.

    He’s uncomfortable maybe.

    I’m pretty chill these days.

    If he chills out it won’t matter what happens and he won’t avoid what’s happening.

    Just my opinion.

    It’s just ego that wants to hide.

    Trump is just a side show.

    In the big tent, consciousness flies through the air with the greatest of ease.

    Is consciousness a child?

    When Aaron wants to not do something, isn’t that just consciousness?

    Isn’t ego consciousness?

    Perhaps we have many things wrong taking them as real.


    Ego is the field of consciousness operating the 3D vehicle.

    As explained to Myself ( 4D) by Myself (5D)…

    The problems occur when the 4D local field totally believes something, and then determines to be correct, no matter what the cost to the 3D vehicle, or any other 3D vehicle.


    The belief becomes all powerful and the 3D becomes a weapon of 4D , the 3D vehicle is programmed to obey the dictates of the local 4d field of consciousness.


    Who/what else may take over the 4D field seeing as hardly anyone has a clue what the dickens such as myself are talking about?


    Forgive the 3D vehicles, as they could not know.


    I put up a white shield about the outer circumference of My 4D field.


    I have been told of those who can put up a granite like shield.


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:48 am

    Well there you go Wink

    You are just trying to have a conversation with yourself Dan.

    I believe that exactly what’s been happening in my local 3D field.

    I found a way to erect a hedge.

    I noticed the difference.

    Or I’m fooled by 4D Wink


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    Post by dan Wed Jul 24, 2019 10:07 am

    smelly,

    hobbit sounds paranoid, but that’s just my (6D) guess.

    I’m gonna have to treat smelly with ‘kid’ gloves...... my only direct link to....... Nowhere.  
    .......


    I’d like to get back to the Metanarrative........

    One way to think of history is as a stadium card stunt........ first one in 1910 at the Cal/Stanford football game.  

    We are the walking cards....... mostly sleep walking.  

    We can be extroverted or introverted about it.  

    Going through a portal is becoming aware of an external source, and being more or less attuned to it. To get back to the Monad, we have to go through many portals.  

    Each of us has a set of cards to display in given situations.  

    As we go through more portals we get a better sense of our role in the cosmic card stunt.



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Jul 24, 2019 10:13 am

    You have your own link Dan.
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    Post by dan Wed Jul 24, 2019 10:33 am

    smelly,

    My direct link is mostly back to the j guy.

    You are my Nowhere man.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Jul 24, 2019 10:39 am

    Who do you think Jesus was Dan if not a nowhere man?

    I’m telling you his people made up a lot of the story I’m convinced.

    Anyway.

    We are involved in a conversation with ourselves here.

    I find it fascinating I must admit at this speed.
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    Post by dan Wed Jul 24, 2019 10:49 am

    smelly,

    I suspect Jesus was the first somewhere guy.

    We are in the j guy’s card section.  

    We’ve got the best card section going.

    Our section has more woke folks than other sections do.

    As Revelation progresses, we will be looking under our seats for the instructions/guidance.  

    Most of us who are in the j section, don’t even know it, like smelly.  

    He thinks he’s nowhere, but actually he is somewhere.  I’m about to demonstrate this to him.  

    The j section is unusually endowed with synergy...... communal synergy.  That’s mostly what we have going for us.

    We make up the j body.  With Revelation, that card/body becomes animated in 4D...... it’s more like infinity/Mandelbrot dimensions.  

    This is our somewhere guy.  

    You, smelly, have a bridge back to Nowhere.  You are teaching me how to deep sea fish.  

    I fish in those waters of Brahman....... but I think my net might be on the wrong side of the boat.  

    This is what woke is about....... waking up to what we’re actually doing, from a cosmic perspective.  

    We have to use every portal..... every vantage keep on track.

    There are many fish in the sea.... each with more or less of a clue..... each in different stages of being woke..... each holding a different set of cards.  

    The cosmic chrysalis is about to spread its wings.  Right now, they are just drying in the Sun.  


    2:40........

    See, smelly, you’re helping me learn how to deep sea fish.

    You’re teaching me about Brahman.  

    You tell me that the only way to learn about the water is to jump in.

    I probably have, in another life...... grant me that. Right now I’m just trying to plumb the depths, without getting the bends, again.  

    Besides, I am a bit of a word smith, and I don’t renounce that calling.  
    .......


    So, what is Brahman about......?

    It seems that it’s about everything and anything, including Nothing.  

    I would say that it’s about the ground of Being...... about Potentia.  

    It is also about the unconscious

    Atman is the soul, and is often identified with Brahman.  If Brahman is a river, atman is a tributary, as they flow to the ocean.  

    A pantheist would say the river flows to the ocean.  A theist would say it flows to Monadnock...... a mountain in the ocean...... a mountain that is mostly under water.  

    The king of Monadnock is the j guy.  

    As a for instance, who invented the Internet.....?  

    It’s difficult to come up with any one name.  But if you ask who laid the social groundwork that made modernism inevitable, folks would have a hard time naming one person, after the j guy.  


    4:10.........

    But that’s for historians to argue about.  

    Modernism is the global setup for the mother of all paradigm shifts (MoAPS).  Then there will be no doubt who was responsible for modernism and it’s aftermath.  

    We have paddled to the sea, and the skies are darkening.  Where will we find a safe harbor?  

    I believe I have a better idea than anyone with a public face....... and there is almost no competition, sports fans.  

    This is like shooting fish in a barrel.  

    The Hindus agree that there is king of Mt Meru....... usually three of them, but have no consensus, beyond that.

    The Buddhists claim that Meru is an illusion....... an empty illusion.  But these are only the scholarly Buddhists. Normal Buddhists are much more personal about it.  

    Islam is clearly the most oppressive, least personable, in its understanding of the cosmos.  



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    Post by hobbit Wed Jul 24, 2019 10:52 am

    Paranoia will always annoy yer.


    Dan the trick cyclist.


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Jul 24, 2019 1:30 pm

    I think a somewhere guy, is just a nowhere man ultimately Wink

    And Dan, I am a here is what is guy.

    I have settled into my life on Earth.

    You would disagree with this move?

    I think one must be grounded in their life.

    So I was blinded by Potentia, but not been lost or destroyed yet in it, only my ignorance has been destroyed.

    This is what is.

    This space is nowhere and everywhere.

    It's not one or the other.

    I don't speculate about anything else anymore unless asked, but I do live here so I can only speak about here without speculating.

    Am I woke, I would say, I don't know what woke is, I am this, and clearly this here.

    I don't move my attention often much from here.

    I have trained and practiced to do this.

    I think it was and is the best move in the game.

    I don't agree with Jesus.

    At least our historical point of view of him.

    I feel I am realizing exactly what Jesus pointed to though.

    Let's maybe call this maybe Gospel 2.0.

    It does not point you anywhere but right here.

    I don't have to give it names or speculate about being.

    We are Being.

    I find no conflict between Jesus, Buddha, Lao between Being and their view.

    Conflicts only arise from conceptualization of Being.

    Which we do from Being?!

    So what you call Nowhere, I call being and we are all always grounded in Being.

    IT's not nowhere, but an expression of nowhere.

    So we don't really disagree.

    But...and maybe this was my life to do so, I jumped out of the boat and swam to the bottom of the ocean.

    I couldn't help myself.

    Being is consciousness maybe and 3D ego is our expression of it in 3D space. Or maybe Consciousness happening in Being/Awareness?

    Consciousness is awareness of one's body and one's environment; self-awareness is recognition of that consciousness.

    Is that all of it?

    That's where I have to say, don't know.

    But I can speak about my being here.

    We just speculate about the rest.
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    Post by dan Wed Jul 24, 2019 1:51 pm

    smelly,

    Well, you are giving a jesus freak almost exclusive access to your talents.  

    In my book, that speaks volumes.  

    But don’t let a little chicken embarrass you.

    Now, with Ack out of the loop, my basket of eggs is that much smaller.  I have to watch the remaining ones more carefully.  
    ........


    So, back to smelly’s problem........  being here......

    Imagine, smelly, how much wisdom lies behind that statement.  Is your imagination that big?  

    Was it easy to get here?   Had you been looking for here..... in all the wrong places?  Or did you just wake up one day and realized that you were here?  

    Is here the best place for you?  

    Do you consider yourself fortunate to be here?  

    Isn’t everyone trying to find here?  

    Do you know of anyone else who has found here?

    Well, ok, have I found here?  Am I not here with you?  


    6:15...........

    Mindfulness...........

    I gather that smelly is being mindful, and somewhat castings aspersions on my lack thereof.  

    Maybe....... maybe not.

    The BPWH is the basis of my meditation.

    I foresee the BPWH as being the best possible koan for meditation, globally.

    smelly, then, is being an obstacle to establishing global mindfulness, expeditiously.



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    Post by 99 Wed Jul 24, 2019 3:38 pm

    I have no idea what transpired between you guys and Ack but he will be missed. 

    Let's hope, when the dust settles, he'll start posting again.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Jul 24, 2019 3:42 pm

    I don’t know I’m helping anyone or even myself.

    My awareness may exist beyond my body, don’t know or care.

    My ego, me, doesn’t feel embarrassed about it.

    Let’s say I know we are all connected and my job is tkshow nothing needs to be done.

    I don’t see any real problems.

    What we do is mostly fantastical delusion.

    I feel we all are longing to be here free of gods, with emotions that don’t overwhelm us.

    We iconized and objectified our emotions and thinking.

    I only know that after I showed my self I had done this.

    The universe made me take responsibility.

    No blame on Gods  or Daimons or others.

    Just this and what is.

    Once I experienced this here, I became a junkie.

    It was so simple.

    I am enough to live my life.

    I have it all here.

    Did I hypnotize myself?

    Yes, I felt fortunate and cursed to be aware.

    Yes, I have met others here.

    I have pointed now others here.

    I have been spreading out here.

    No, I didn’t give a shit before I experienced here, cause I thought I knew.

    I didn’t know shit and now I know the boundaries of my shit.

    I am just aware Dan how full of shit most of us are.

    Me most of all.


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