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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:04 pm

    First topic message reminder :

    It looks like we’re running up,against the 40 page allotment from the last thread......

    And I’m still with Tulsi, unless there is a better suggestion......
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Aug 07, 2019 9:58 pm

    God didn’t say clean everyone else’s or his house.

    He said clean your own house.

    Keep your own mirror clear.

    “The Lamp of the Body

    33 “No one lights a lamp and puts it in a place where it will be hidden, or under a bowl. Instead they put it on its stand, so that those who come in may see the light. 34 Your eye is the lamp of your body. When your eyes are healthy, your whole body also is full of light. But when they are unhealthy, h your body also is full of darkness. 35 See to it, then, that the light within you is not darkness. 36 Therefore, if your whole body is full of light, and no part of it dark, it will be just as full of light as when a lamp shines its light on you.”

    —Luke 11:33-36

    One of the verses I remember from my Jesus dayz.

    Pretty good, very Taoist.

    Jesus knew of Stoicism, borrows a lot from it I feel.
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    Post by Cyrellys Wed Aug 07, 2019 10:12 pm

    @goat, you totally misunderstood what I said - per your reply.  Typical.


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    Rooster's Crow Confusion
    One thing else to end the deed --
    A dog with no Illusion.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Aug 07, 2019 10:14 pm

    You will have to take it up with da Jesuz.

    And here is some synchronicity.

    “It was in the mist of the Tuatha de Danaan, the people of the gods   of Dana... came through the air and the high air to Ireland.”

    —Lady Gregory: Gods and Fighting Men

    They are warriors Dan.

    “And if any gaze on our rushing band,
    We come between him and the deed of his hand,
    We come between him and the hope of his heart.”

    —W.B. Yeats: The Hosting of the Sidhe

    Creatures of imagination Dan?
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    Post by Cyrellys Wed Aug 07, 2019 10:29 pm

    smelly wrote:You will have to take it up da Jesuz.

    And here is some synchronicity.

    “It was in the mist of the Tuatha de Danaan, the people of the gods   of Dana... came through the air and the high air to Ireland.”

    —Lady Gregory: Gods and Fighting Men

    They are warriors Dan.

    “And if any gaze on our rushing band,
    We come between him and the deed of his hand,
    We come between him and the hope of his heart.”

    —W.B. Yeats: The Hosting of the Sidhe

    Creatures of imagination Dan?

    I’d listen to the goat once in awhile Cy, the gods smile on me.


    Danu was an ancestor.  Technically speaking she was a librarian who helped evac the Danann during the cataclysm and became their leader afterwards.  Aes Dana practice ancestor "reverence".  They weren't gods.  Technology of the time gave them very long lives in comparison to ours today and terraforming capability.  When they returned to Ireland, they came back to an agrarian life filled with iron age war bands they had to defend against.  Some like the Fomorians had some remnant tech of their own...it's why they had to scuttle the ships in the ocean to prevent the Fomorians from getting their hand on them.  Ocean is ALOT higher today than it was then.  Good luck getting to whatever might be left of those ships, if you can find them.

    Did you seriously think I didn't know about Lady Gregory or Yeats?  

    You forgot Nennius...if you can stretch your mind to consider he did anything other than regurgitate bs.

    CELT Corpus of Electronic Texts - University of Ireland
    Home: https://celt.ucc.ie//
    Library: https://celt.ucc.ie//publishd.html
    CELT - Translated Texts (to English) https://celt.ucc.ie/transpage.html
    Aes Dana Approved (Pre-America) Summary: The Tuatha de Danann by By Ali Isaac / Source: Irish Central https://celticlife.com/the-tuatha-de-danann/



    TWO BEST extant documents on Tuath do Dana (Aes Dana)
    1. Lebor na hUidre (Book of the Dun Cow) - Earliest earliest surviving manuscript with literature written in Irish
    FULL TEXT version (Irish): https://archive.org/stream/lebornahuidreboo00best/lebornahuidreboo00best_djvu.txt
    ENGLISH Translated Fragrments: http://www.ancienttexts.org/library/celtic/ctexts/lu.html
    Physical version (imaged copy in Irish): https://www.ria.ie/library/catalogues/special-collections/medieval-and-early-modern-manuscripts/lebor-na-huidre-book



    2. Lebor Gabála Érenn: The Book of Invasions
    §55-64: The Tuatha de Dannan (Excerpt)
    http://www.ancienttexts.org/library/celtic/ctexts/lebor4.html#55
    *"gods" is mistranslated. More correct would be "ancestor line" or "line of the Ancients".
    Physical version (imaged copy in Irish): https://www.ria.ie/leabhar-gabhala-book-invasions
    *Irish documents come in 3 language versions: Berla Feini (OLD IRISH), Middle Irish, Modern Irish. Google Translate can only handled "modern".
    *Sidhe: means "People of the Mound" - At the division of Ireland between the Sons of Mil and the Tuatha Danann, the Queens who intervened placed half the Danann population back within the deep underground cities to make room for Milesians and prevent further conflict. These however were very very dangerous places and many whole clannod perished. Mounds of rock rubble were placed (after return of the Aes Dana to the surface) over entrances to the ancient underground cities to prevent entrance to locations suffering from "rotten rock" and "sea-water innundation" where catastrophic death is the rule. The general population were never "officially" informed of the return of the sidhe faction of the Aes Dana to the surface. The general population continued to refer to Tuath do Dana as Sidhe believing they still lived underground.
    A large part of the problem in understanding what really happened and the resulting overlay of mythology is due to it occurring in the transitional period between two diametrically opposed parties -- one party practicing verbal academic tradition vs the new surviving monastic tradition of writing which had previously been outlawed both literal and philosophically.



    British Parallel - Irish Version of Nennius p. 45-49
    Historia 7 - OF THE KINGS OF THE ROMANS https://celt.ucc.ie//published/T100028/text007.html
    Historia 8 - OF THE CONQUEST OF ERI as RECORDED BY NENNIUS https://celt.ucc.ie//published/T100028/text008.html
    Historia 9 - https://celt.ucc.ie//published/T100028/text009.html
    Historia 10 - OF THE ADVENTURES OF GAEDEL, AS FOLLOWS https://celt.ucc.ie//published/T100028/text010.html
    Historia 11 - https://celt.ucc.ie//published/T100028/text011.html


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:11 pm

    I assumed you knew them actually and much more about it all than I.

    And when I say gods I’m being poetic about elemental energy.

    It was a synchronicity that I read those quotes right after I read an earlier post of yours.

    I’m reading a book about the good people.

    I don’t know what anyone else knows or doesn’t.

    I see by their actions a little bit.

    We lose something only communicating over long distances with online folks.

    Thank you for the docs.

    Anything on the good people Wink
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    Post by Cyrellys Thu Aug 08, 2019 1:22 am

    smelly wrote:I assumed you knew them actually and much more about it all than I.

    And when I say gods I’m being poetic about elemental energy.

    It was a synchronicity that I read those quotes right after I read an earlier post of yours.

    I’m reading a book about the good people.

    I don’t know what anyone else knows or doesn’t.

    I see by their actions a little bit.

    We lose something only communicating over long distances with online folks.

    Thank you for the docs.

    Anything on the good people Wink

    You're Welcome.

    Those will keep you busy awhile.  Mogh Ruith moved the Drui College to Feara Maighe aka Fermoy from the former Valencia region.  It was there in Fermoy the Aes Dana council resided until the death of Elizabeth I and the resulting socio-political pandemonium under direction of the English's (Illumined) "bankers" pushed them into relocating to America...to the old location originally set out for the Templars.


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    A dog with no Illusion.

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    Post by dan Thu Aug 08, 2019 6:04 am

    Cy,

    You don’t know me...... not yet.  

    You will.  

    I come from the power of the One mind.  

    I’m here to stop the music, as Scott suggests.  

    We are only hearing echoes of the oldie goldies.........

    The last song has already been written.  

    Cy puts her ultimate faith in the Constitution, but the Constitution means nothing without the Declaration.......
    When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
    In relation to what I’m about to tell you, this is so much wishful thinking jotted down on a piece of paper.  

    There is only one Source of all the power..... and the glory, for ever and ever.  

    I claim to be representing the Source in an historically unique fashion as did the Two before me....... the Christ and the Buddha.  

    I know you cannot possibly believe this, now, but the day of Truth has come, and you may mark my words.....
    Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love I am only a resounding gong or clanging cymbal resounding in the wind. 2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and can understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and though I have faith, that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. 3 And though I give all I possess to the poor, and surrender my body to the flames, [2] but have not love, I gain nothing.

    4 Love is kind; love does not envy; love does not parade itself, is not puffed up; 5 does not behave rudely, does not seek its own, is not provoked, thinks no evil; 6 does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth; 7 bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.

    8 Love has no fear; it does not worry; love keeps no records of wrongs; never fails. But whether there are prophecies, they will fail; whether there are tongues, they will cease; whether there is knowledge, it will vanish away. 9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part. 10 But when that which is perfect has come, then that which is in part will be done away.

    11 When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child; but when I became a man, I put away childish things. 12 For now we see in a mirror, darkly, but then face to face. Now I know in part, but then I shall know just as I also am known.

    13 And now abide faith, hope, love, these three; but the greatest of these is love.
    Yes, the One mind has come at last, and appears to be speaking through me, while my breath remains.........

    No, Cy, this is not an experiment, this is not a bottleneck.  This is the End.  Now you see the One, face to face.  

    It’s all over, but the shouting........

    I’m here to stop the music and turn off the lights........ in the best possible way.  

    This is the disturbing Message that we have all been waiting for.  

    This is the message from the Source, from the One mind.  

    Scott, we have met the resisters of Love...... they are us.  

    Agape is the Royal water that will erode every human barrier.  

    When you weep, your tears will only abet the flood that is finally upon us.  

    You needn’t bother to look for the Ark........ your portal awaits your most heartfelt wish.  


    11.............

    The marriage in Heaven is of Christ and Buddha....... I’ll be glad to officiate.  

    These two have withstood the test of time as have none others.  

    Yes, their love has been encrusted with so many scriptures, as with sticky notes, but their renegade love has shone through, down through the ages.  

    Islam and Hinduism are the sticky notes.  Sticky notes, over the ages, only serve to conceal the core story....... the true heart.  

    The Truth dissolves all words...... once the Logos, once the Wisdom is in place.  The Logos and the Wisdom are within and between persons...... wherever three of you are gathered.  

    No, Cy, there is no paper that is worthy of this message.  

    This message can only be written on the heart.  

    You might as well take your paper and steel, and throw them on the slag heap, once you have come face to face with the Truth.

    Perhaps not today, but tomorrow and tomorrow....... your jig is up..... I have your number.  

    The rest of our time.........?  We’ll be rearranging the deck chairs on the titanic.  There are no rafts, but there are portals...... you just have to look around you....... the nearest heart is your portal...... it could even be your own.  

    I want to live
    I want to give
    I've been a miner for a heart of gold
    It's these expressions
    I never give
    That keep me searching for a heart of gold

    And I'm getting old
    Keep me searching for a heart of gold
    And I'm getting old

    I've been to Hollywood
    I've been to Redwood
    I crossed the ocean for a heart of gold
    I've been in my mind
    It's such a fine line
    That keeps me searching for a heart of gold

    And I'm getting old


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:54 am

    Not to take anything away from your...declaration, but people don’t usually speak this way and when they do, they either get strung up or locked away.

    If we were to ask your better half, I wonder what she might say Wink
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    Post by dan Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:11 am

    Fear not, smelly,

    I have what protection I need, when I need it.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:51 am

    Religions work not on truth, but faith.

    People want to believe.

    Practitioners take truth on faith.

    Jung said UFOs are apparently real, future probability, but he firmly treated this phenomena as a psychic reality.

    The library angel brings things when needed.

    A faith based way to describe coincidences.

    They don’t have to be explained.

    It is our declarations I feel where we go off track.
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    Post by dan Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:12 am

    This is not a religion, smelly, is it?

    This is the Truth to end all religion, including scientism.  

    Truth is only ever the living Truth.  To follow that bouncing ball, you will need all the faith you can muster, smelly.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:21 am

    We cannot claim truth at our resolution of reality.

    We have points of view, speculations, observations, opinions, experiences.

    Only when we don’t think about it do we embody it without knowing.

    And the UFO certainly is the center of a new religion.

    It unfolds right here partly.
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    Post by hobbit Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:24 am

    smelly,
    http://www.goldenageproject.org.uk/?fbclid=IwAR1mn47i_mgP23wF6LefYulrp81wveNxzoJdmbMEy9g2qeXgU5IOOVKBuM

    When LIGHT is talked of it is consciousness, and it is hugely variable, and most importantly can be accumulated to increase ones light (consciousness)

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    Post by dan Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:27 am

    smelly,

    We will have just as much Truth, as we need, when we need it.

    We already know the essential Truth....... it is only ever interpersonal.


    hobbit,

    Don’t ever get greedy with the Truth, anymore than with love.  

    The ultimate truth = love..... always.  

    If you want to take one thing to the bank, that’s it.  


    We westerners invented romantic love, and we did it because of Jesus.  

    That should tell you everything you need to know about Jesus.  

    Read up on the history of the troubadours....... you will learn everything you need to know about love......
    According to this theory, it was the theology espoused by Bernard of Clairvaux and the increasingly important Mariology that most strongly influenced the development of the troubadour genre. Specifically, the emphasis on religious and spiritual love, disinterestedness, mysticism, and devotion to Mary explained "courtly love". The emphasis of the reforming Robert of Arbrissel on "matronage" to achieve his ends can explain the troubadour attitude towards women.
    There was also a strong crossover from Sufi and from some pagan traditions.  

    Hey there, Georgy girl
    Dreaming; of the someone you could be
    Life is a reality, you can't always run away
    Don't be so scared of changing and rearranging yourself
    It's time…

    Who's peekin' out from under a stairway
    Calling a name that's lighter than air
    Who's bending down to give me a rainbow
    Everyone knows it's Windy
    Who's tripping down the streets of the city
    Smilin' at everybody she sees
    Who's reachin' out to capture a moment
    Everyone knows it's Windy
    Burkas......... kiss my ass.......

    There's a port on a western bay
    And it serves a hundred ships a day
    Lonely sailors pass the time away
    And talk about their homes
    And there's a girl in this harbor town
    And she works layin' whiskey down
    They say, Brandy, fetch another round
    She serves them whiskey and wine
    Do you get the idea?  


    3:45.........

    Ok, back to the One mind........  
    It is that which you see before you—begin to reason about it and you at once fall into error. It is like the boundless void which cannot be fathomed or measured. The One Mind alone is the Buddha, and there is no distinction between the Buddha and sentient things, but that sentient beings are attached to forms and so seek externally for Buddhahood. By their very seeking they lose it, for that is:
    I get the point...... this has been smelly’s point, from day one.  

    I get it, but I don’t buy it.  

    The One is not an absolute.  It is personal.  It is relational, or it is nothing.  

    smelly wants it to be a pure, sacrosanct Nothing.  

    Wrongo......... bongo.  

    This is where the Buddhists fall off the pumpkin cart.  

    The Buddhists are greedy little bastards, when it comes to the One.  They can’t share it, they cannot vocalize it...... rhapsodize it.  

    The Christians learned how to rhapsodize it.  We did it so successfully that we worked ourselves right out of the job.  

    Now the mission is over....... the ship is leaving.  

    News flash........ there is only one ship, otherwise your gonna be swimming alone, without a life vest....... better not let your burka drag you down.  

    If you don’t seek the glory train, you’re gonna miss it....... and it’s a long walk home.  

    If smelly sits patiently in his garden, won’t he be able to flag it down?  

    Sure, he might get lucky.  

    Me....... I’m not a gambling man.  I hang out on OM.  I think we might be able to hear the whistle blow.......
    If you missed the train I'm on
    You will know that I am gone
    You can hear the whistle blow a hundred miles
    A hundred miles, a hundred miles,
    A hundred miles, a hundred miles
    You can hear the whistle blow a hundred miles
    Lord, I'm one, Lord, I'm two,
    Lord, I'm three, Lord, I'm four
    Lord, I'm five hundred miles away from home

    There are a lot us like smelly, we would like to sit in our gardens forever and a day.........
    Turning and turning in the widening gyre
    The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
    Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
    Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
    The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
    The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
    The best lack all conviction, while the worst
    Are full of passionate intensity.

    Surely some revelation is at hand;
    Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
    The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
    When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
    Troubles my sight: somewhere in sands of the desert
    A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
    A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
    Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
    Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
    The darkness drops again; but now I know
    That twenty centuries of stony sleep
    Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
    And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
    Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?
    And the cat’s in the cradle and the silver spoon
    Little boy blue and the man in the moon
    When you comin’ home, Dad
    I don’t know when, but we’ll get together then, Son
    You know we’ll have a good time then



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    Post by SurfBum Thu Aug 08, 2019 1:36 pm

    Jesus has an edge on Buddha.

    Jesus is cool.

    Buddha is cool too...just not as cool as Jesus.

    Ok fine...they are both equally cool...but Jesus...Wow!

    If I were to be an idolater Jesus would be my guy.
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    Post by dan Thu Aug 08, 2019 1:49 pm

    Ack,

    Ok, our Buddha buddy may not be the starting pitcher, but he’s surely on first base.

    The chicken is batting in the clean up spot....... and I’m swinging for the fences..... that’s my one trick.....

    See...... maybe the Princess is not as dumb as she looks...... she wasn’t throwing me under the Bus...... she was pushing me out of the nest...... and the ground is coming up..... real fast......

    This one came in outa the blue......
    Yeah, I'm gonna take my horse to the old town road
    I'm gonna ride 'til I can't no more
    I'm gonna take my horse to the old town road
    I'm gonna ride 'til I can't no more



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    Post by Cuan Scott Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:38 pm

    Exciting times Smile
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    Keep our eyes on the skies, scott.........
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    Post by Cuan Scott Thu Aug 08, 2019 3:12 pm

    You got it Dan

    Seems I got the pony clipped just in time.. Smile

    Curious that it is today that I chose to spend the morning doing the horses listening to Owen B and 'Man and his meaning'

    What a mind Smile

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    Post by Cyrellys Thu Aug 08, 2019 3:41 pm

    dan wrote:Cy,

    You don’t know me...... not yet.  

    You will.  

    I come from the power of the One mind.  

    I’m here to stop the music, as Scott suggests.  

    We are only hearing echoes of the oldie goldies.........

    The last song has already been written.  

    Cy puts her ultimate faith in the Constitution, but the Constitution means nothing without the Declaration.......
    When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
    In relation to what I’m about to tell you, this is so much wishful thinking jotted down on a piece of paper.  

    There is only one Source of all the power..... and the glory, for ever and ever.  

    I claim to be representing the Source in an historically unique fashion as did the Two before me....... the Christ and the Buddha.  

    I know you cannot possibly believe this, now, but the day of Truth has come, and you may mark my words.....
    Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love I am only a resounding gong or clanging cymbal resounding in the wind. 2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and can understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and though I have faith, that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. 3 And though I give all I possess to the poor, and surrender my body to the flames, [2] but have not love, I gain nothing.

    4 Love is kind; love does not envy; love does not parade itself, is not puffed up; 5 does not behave rudely, does not seek its own, is not provoked, thinks no evil; 6 does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth; 7 bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.

    8 Love has no fear; it does not worry; love keeps no records of wrongs; never fails. But whether there are prophecies, they will fail; whether there are tongues, they will cease; whether there is knowledge, it will vanish away. 9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part. 10 But when that which is perfect has come, then that which is in part will be done away.

    11 When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child; but when I became a man, I put away childish things. 12 For now we see in a mirror, darkly, but then face to face. Now I know in part, but then I shall know just as I also am known.

    13 And now abide faith, hope, love, these three; but the greatest of these is love.
    Yes, the One mind has come at last, and appears to be speaking through me, while my breath remains.........

    No, Cy, this is not an experiment, this is not a bottleneck.  This is the End.  Now you see the One, face to face.  

    It’s all over, but the shouting........

    I’m here to stop the music and turn off the lights........ in the best possible way.  

    This is the disturbing Message that we have all been waiting for.  

    This is the message from the Source, from the One mind.  

    Scott, we have met the resisters of Love...... they are us.  

    Agape is the Royal water that will erode every human barrier.  

    When you weep, your tears will only abet the flood that is finally upon us.  

    You needn’t bother to look for the Ark........ your portal awaits your most heartfelt wish.  


    11.............

    The marriage in Heaven is of Christ and Buddha....... I’ll be glad to officiate.  

    These two have withstood the test of time as have none others.  

    Yes, their love has been encrusted with so many scriptures, as with sticky notes, but their renegade love has shone through, down through the ages.  

    Islam and Hinduism are the sticky notes.  Sticky notes, over the ages, only serve to conceal the core story....... the true heart.  

    The Truth dissolves all words...... once the Logos, once the Wisdom is in place.  The Logos and the Wisdom are within and between persons...... wherever three of you are gathered.  

    No, Cy, there is no paper that is worthy of this message.  

    This message can only be written on the heart.  

    You might as well take your paper and steel, and throw them on the slag heap, once you have come face to face with the Truth.

    Perhaps not today, but tomorrow and tomorrow....... your jig is up..... I have your number.  

    The rest of our time.........?  We’ll be rearranging the deck chairs on the titanic.  There are no rafts, but there are portals...... you just have to look around you....... the nearest heart is your portal...... it could even be your own.  

    I want to live
    I want to give
    I've been a miner for a heart of gold
    It's these expressions
    I never give
    That keep me searching for a heart of gold

    And I'm getting old
    Keep me searching for a heart of gold
    And I'm getting old

    I've been to Hollywood
    I've been to Redwood
    I crossed the ocean for a heart of gold
    I've been in my mind
    It's such a fine line
    That keeps me searching for a heart of gold

    And I'm getting old


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    You're right Dan, I don't know you.  You have now attained an all new level of ego.  

    • I can tell you from experience you don't represent God.
    • The last song as you call it has not been written
    • Eschatology is BS
    • You haven't the faintest idea where I put my ultimate faith be you're assuming I put it in the Constitution.
    • You haven't actually heard a thing I've said since I rejoined this conversation per your post above.
    • You obviously don't understand the Declaration of Independence or Nature's Laws and Nature's God relationship to a free state.
    • The only person I see resisting love and rational thinking Dan is you.  Even Smelly has you beat on love despite his verbal contortions.
    • The rest of your written malfeasance isn't even worth commenting on.


    Sigh.  I am having a hard time believing I thought anything in here had changed...word soup.

    Dan, you're a classic case of what we call "hide-bound".  I'll leave you to figure out just what that means.

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    For once in your life, Cy, try speaking from your heart....... without bullet points....... without hyper links.  It would be a whole new terrain for you.

    Also, Cy, you might want to stop making threats against the President...... and other people..... with your militias.  

    Why can’t you stick to your own truth, without bashing others?

    It’s not quite as easy as it looks.  

    Many are comfortable on the low road.  

    Try the high road.  Do you know where it is?  

    Oh, yes, and do you have any other authorities...... besides the tribal ones that you keep appealing to?

    News flash...... The time of the tribes has come and gone.  

    We’re talking now about the Final Participation...... where the cancer transforms to the chrysalis....... and I’ll bet you have no clue.  

    We have all the time in the world for you to figure this out.  

    And please tell us, Cy......... where DO you put your faith?



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    dan wrote:For once in your life, Cy, try speaking from your heart....... without bullet points....... without hyper links.  It would be a whole new terrain for you.  

    Dan, I produced several pages of speaking from the heart and it went over your head and out the door.  You didn't understand a word of it.  Then you took pieces and twisted them up into inaccurate pretzels.  

    So I resorted to bullet points.  Short and to the point for the modern mind.

    or I could try:

         Hey careful Star Scream, don't pat yourself on the back too much -- you might dislocate a landing-gear.

    why?

    Because there is no EGO in Truth, Honor, or Duty.

    Because there is no EGO/self aggrandizement in civility, generosity, and compassion.

    Since you don't have the benefit of a Old Irish drui education:

    RESPECTING WARRIORS:
    There are three only , whose frenzy is a benefit to their people : The Warrior on the field of
    battle , the Dancer in the place of dance , and the Seeker of Justice where ever they may be.

    The three foundations of Spirituality: Hearth as altar, work as worship, and service as
    sacrament.

    What is the Hearth when speaking of a People?  Its their nation.  Work, what is that?  That which you devote your time, energy, effort to...in a meaningful way producing a real outcome, i.e. HEARTH.  What is SERVICE, Dan?  How does EGO serve?  It doesn't.

    I've been under Geis since I was born Dan.  Under directive since 1979.  Under Oath of Service since 1996.  I still WORK under direction of Synchronicity.  

    I don't require your ego or aggrandizement.  I answer to Source.  Not you.  

    It is one thing to ask a question and receive an answer.  It is entirely something else to make assumptions about me and jump to conclusions to satisfy your meta-narrative.

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    Post by dan Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:09 pm

    Cy,

    Where DO you put your faith?

    Can you just tell us this without haranguing us, please.
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    Post by Cyrellys Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:30 pm

    DAN Putting words in Cy's mouth as usual. wrote:Also, Cy, you might want to stop making threats against the President...... and other people..... with your militias.  

    Why can’t you stick to your own truth, without bashing others? 

    It’s not quite as easy as it looks.  

    Many are comfortable on the low road.  

    Try the high road.  Do you know where it is?  

    Oh, yes, and do you have any other authorities...... besides the tribal ones that you keep appealing to? 

    News flash...... The time of the tribes has come and gone.  

    We’re talking now about the Final Participation...... where the cancer transforms to the chrysalis....... and I’ll bet you have no clue.  

    We have all the time in the world for you to figure this out. 

    For starters Dan, 

    Chewing the Presidents ass for fuck ups is not the same thing as threatening.  
         ....Everyone/Anyone has a right call for a new representative candidate in the 2020 election if it would better serve.  
         ....Calling for the expulsion of DC from the Union is just as legal as watering the tree of liberty for demonstrated abandonment of the Constitution in DC and it's far less violent than watering the tree of liberty as directed by the Founders.  

    If I were to work for an employer and I did as many fck ups as Trump has, the employer would be far less lenient about firing my ass than I've been about Trump.  As an "employer" of the President (remember he answers to his constituents) I reserve the right to fire his has for non-compliance with the Constitution...why?  Because breaking the Constitution BREAKS THE CONTRACT with the STATES and the PEOPLE thus inviting dissolving the Union.  If Trump dissolved the Union one morning, just saying so, without the round-about back door version of nullifying the Constitution first would you go along with that?  Your BS statement above says you would.

    Secondly, the history I've taught in my posts to all of you who patently didn't know it, is not TRIBAL.  It's your freaking history you ingrates!  If you do not understand and heed history you WILL repeat it.  

    Taking a public SERVANT to task is not bashing people.  My people used to take an Oath to continue to mentor and advise behind the scenes where possible for the deep water ship's crew -- a ship we had a key hand in helping to create and establish.  I do no different other than, none in my kin group have done so since before 1975 due to internal issues among the Aes Dana.

    This explanation is precisely what I mean by you can't seem to get any of what I've said correct and are too wrapped up in your ego-narrative.

    Can you learn from constructive criticism Dan?


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    Post by Cyrellys Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:37 pm

    dan wrote:Cy,

    Where DO you put your faith?

    Can you just tell us this without haranguing us, please.  

    What part of being a celtic christian aka Pelagian
    did you not understand Dan?

    How many times need it be said?

    I'm an Apprentice to Synchronicity, which means I work per my training, DIRECTLY with Source.

    Banais Righi is the "official" type of bandrui and becomes a tag after my traditional name, just like PhD goes after someone trained as a medical physician.

    Banais Righi means "wedded to sovereignty" literally.  Course of study includes apprenticeship to Synchronicity.

    Synchronicity is the "hand of Source/God" actively working with traceable evidence in our environment.

    Got that?  Last time I'm writing that all out.  

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