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» What Music Are You Listening To ?
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» Livin Your Best Life
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» Baudrillardian hauntology - what are some haunting truths to our reality?
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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Sun Jun 16, 2019 6:53 am

    First topic message reminder :

    Ok, 99,

    I think we can safely say that, in this past month, we have come close enough to Disclosure, for all practical purposes.  

    You’re being the mathematician about Disclosure, and I’m being the physicist, and I’ve told this story a few times, already, but it won’t hurt to tell it again.......

    A mathematician and a physicist walk into a bar, and sit on both sides of a very attractive woman.  The mathematician can only ever get halfway closer to the woman, but the physicist can get close enough for all practical purposes.  

    Think of the physicist as Donald Trump, and think of the Boys on the Bus.  

    Donald Trump will be known as the Disclosure President, for having helped to orchestrate what has transpired in the past month, not the least of which was chicken little realizing that, very likely, he was Visitor #1.  

    Will any self respecting ufologist feel satisfied with this, Sonfish, version of Disclosure?  I would seriously doubt it.  However, will any competent historian ever come up with a better peg for Revelation?  I would seriously doubt it.  

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:46 pm

    https://www.earthfiles.com/2019/06/19/part-2-leaked-11-page-memorandum-from-physicist-eric-davis-to-bob-bigelow-nids/

    I was drawn to one page of the alien autopsy papers.

    Did you read the second report dropped?

    Page 8 is what I guessed.

    It’s Plato’s Noble Lies.

    They think they are the best and smartest of us and they will lead us into this.

    For all we know this secret group becomes the aliens.

    I think they probably made the best move.

    I’m sure many are not nice people.

    Kit Green is the main dude in these papers.

    I listened to Grants interview, wow!

    Could all this be fake, sure, but I’m going to go with it for now.

    If nothing else, the entire ufo researcher community thinks this is it.

    I can’t believe Grant thought to keep it all quiet.

    He was scared.

    If this black program existed, they must have killed for it.

    How many discredited.

    The loons may have actually been onto it all along.

    An alien autopsy is ridiculous crazy.

    WTF?!

    Ummmmm....

    I want my Mommy.

    This is too much.

    Turn it off Wink

    But wait, the last email in the link is from Putoff, and he used his aol email?

    Where it could easily be found.

    Uh huh.

    You know if I had used my ADD Asperger mind on all this, I could have been a damn good researcher.

    I just never cared.

    I don’t like being lied to.

    Not one bit.

    But I understand I guess.

    It’s legal for them to do this.

    Guess what, it’s not.

    You can’t override the 1st amendment and still be the USA we know.

    Our whole system is a total police state lie.

    It’s no joke.

    It’s pretty bad dudes.

    The dark clouds look really dark here.

    They have used this issue to take over.

    If it’s fake, we are really fucked.

    This could lead to revolution and maybe it should.


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    Post by 99 Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:06 pm

    Read the docs and then your comments about it and I find them very insightful. 
    Thanks for posting that link. 

    Need to watch the Alien Autopsy again... only this time round, under the assumption that it's authentic. [gulp]


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:08 pm

    Holy Shit 99!

    I’m getting more angry...

    This is pissing me off.

    This is really really really pissing me off.

    I’m going to go into GOD mode and end this maybe.

    Let me think about it Wink

    The monkeys have been very naughty.

    What lovely Flowers of Evil they have grown.

    Their stench is putrid.

    Alien autopsy is real huh?

    Hmmm, I’m vexed.

    I’m very very vexed.

    Hmmmm, what is all of this?!

    Why did Jack cross my path.

    Why was I led here?

    To me, I was led directly here with a large pointer neon sign that said

    ENTER HERE

    It wasn’t meaning enter at this spot.

    It meant HERE!

    Here as is in this is what is.

    It was a large carnival clown head I walked into.

    Right through the mouth.

    And now it shit me out and I’m covered in a putrid shell.

    I wonder what’s inside?

    I wonder what really has been born HERE?

    Forgive my salty language for the sensitive monkeys.
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    Post by 99 Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:06 pm

    Hey, you've got the wrong one here to emote/vent about all of this to as I'm in the same boat you're in. [total state of befuddlement]

    What I thought was a colossal hoax now turns out to be real! (really need more info on this though....)

    We'll get through this but it's going to take time lol
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    I'm upset too.... for the same reasons you are.

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    Post by U Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:12 pm

    "Abandon hope all ye who enter here"
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Jun 21, 2019 12:13 am

    Fuck them.

    Fuck those black program asshole fascistz.

    The smelly goat is very very smelly right now.

    The proof better be good.

    This is some new Psy Op.

    Damn it!

    I have to keep an open mind, but I really really don’t want to.

    I don’t know why I’m so angry that our whole society is a ballon that just popped.

    You know what, Fuck Plato Wink

    Socrates was one dangerous muppet.

    Look at all this trouble he made for talking monkeys.

    I guess it was the best possible trouble.

    I thought this was all bullshit honestly.

    I’m feeling that this is going to be water that won’t stop rising.

    Had to rip the scab off sometime and get some air and light in there.

    Kill all the meanies.

    Alien autopsy?!

    Uh huh.

    Explain that GrandPa.
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    Post by 99 Fri Jun 21, 2019 12:28 am



    If Kit Green says it's real then it's real regardless that he also says that the cadaver does not look real but that's beside the point. I guess.

    Question: How can he say that it doesn't look real but at the same time say it's real? 
    This doesn't make sense to me.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Jun 21, 2019 12:57 am

    I know nothing about Kit, just looked him up.

    Career CIA dude.

    I’m the babe in the woods remember.

    This is all new to me.

    On the alien, it looks like a movie prop, but it could just be a dead body of a six toed fingered alien.

    I found it horrible how Kit described a cowering alien in the orginal also present.

    That sounds awful and he seems to be trying to justify not taking proper care in the 40s by their lack of proper procedures.

    But I have to call bullshit.

    If they could pull off the Manhattan project, they wouldn’t give an alien to a bunch of army hack Drs.

    They would have an Oppenheimer type on it.

    Looks like a biological drone to me.

    I want to know how alien bodies fit into Dan’s mythology.

    I’m sure he’s mentioned it.

    The Plato reference was what got my attention.

    That’s believable.

    All sorts of reporters will be researching now.


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    Post by U Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:03 am

    I've for a few years now viewed Grant Cameron as one of the darkest of Magikians...

    But I really have to wonder, are we really shedding some tears over some spilt Grey blood?

    If you follow the abduction phenomena, these Greys can exhibit full mental and physical control over a human being. These humanoids are nightly intruders who terrorize us poor thinking, talking, apes into submission with kidnapping and aggressive medical and sexual experiments. Now they're god's of the modern world. Before we called them angels and demons now we call them aliens or EBEs, J-rods, ETs, UTs!?

    Should we be that broken up about it if we capture some for ourselves!?

    NO!!!

    Who fucking cares!?

    Despite what the unbegun said we knew they were more than just something that haunted the dark parts of our subconscious. These were real entities that knew they could run interference on our civilization and craft our wonderfully delicious minds into something useful to them.

    Don't let the shady actions of the Aviary or Weird Desk fool you, they're fighting an uphill battle, and they know the Non Humans aren't big on empathy, you should know that too.

    A few missing bodies means nothing to the Non Humans.

    Smelly has it correct the Sekret group is not dissimilar to the alien group, if they didn't have help from top brass they wouldn't stand a chance. You have to fight fire with fire.

    The main theater of war is, was and will always be the mind...

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:10 am

    As I’ve just updated my mind softwarez, I’d love to take a crack at them.

    Yah, fuck monkey kidnappers.

    You describe raw nature to me.

    The individual is not a concern.

    The universe is brutal no doubt.

    But also beautiful beyond words.

    I am not an Ascension type or bliss bunny.

    I’m a warrior and I was raised to fight and fight I shall.

    Who, a smelly goat, yah, a fucking smelly goat.

    I have no sympathies for thought or consciousness.

    If the greys are watching, just kiddin Wink

    If the fascists are watching, bite my goat udder.

    And if God is in me, now would be a good time.

    There’s no place like home
    There’s no place like home
    There’s no place like home

    One must maintain a sense of humor through all this.

    Don’t let them make you angry.
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    Post by U Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:19 am



    Fukkin with yo bitch she a thought thought thought...
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    Post by U Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:24 am

    And remember whatever Kit is, Ron is ten times worse...
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:26 am

    U wrote:I've for a few years now viewed Grant Cameron as one of the darkest of Magikians...

    But I really have to wonder, are we really shedding some tears over some spilt Grey blood?

    If you follow the abduction phenomena, these Greys can exhibit full mental and physical control over a human being. These humanoids are nightly intruders who terrorize us poor thinking, talking, apes into submission with kidnapping and aggressive medical and sexual experiments. Now they're god's of the modern world. Before we called them angels and demons now we call them aliens or EBEs, J-rods, ETs, UTs!?

    Should we be that broken up about it if we capture some for ourselves!?

    NO!!!

    Who fucking cares!?

    Despite what the unbegun said we knew they were more than just something that haunted the dark parts of our subconscious. These were real entities that knew they could run interference on our civilization and craft our wonderfully delicious minds into something useful to them.

    Don't let the shady actions of the Aviary or Weird Desk fool you, they're fighting an uphill battle, and they know the Non Humans aren't big on empathy, you should know that too.

    A few missing bodies means nothing to the Non Humans.

    Smelly has it correct the Sekret group is not dissimilar to the alien group, if they didn't have help from top brass they wouldn't stand a chance. You have to fight fire with fire.

    The main theater of war is, was and will always be the mind...

    Sleep Tight








    I know a Dutch shaman, she looks just like this.

    She wore all white.

    Beautiful, mesmerizing.

    I knew there was something weird about her.

    She really did some deep work on me in 3 different sessions.

    I don’t know what she did really.

    I was laying down and I let her do her voodoo thing.

    As I was laying down and she was chanting or something, I saw animals fly into my chest.

    I kid you not.

    An owl came first.

    Then a bear.

    Then a wolf.

    I have a tight bond with dogs.

    I know I sound insane.

    She said I had recovered parts I needed now.

    Seriously, I was just like whatever, I’ll go with it.

    But somehow it clicks at this very moment.


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:27 am

    U wrote:And remember whatever Kit is, Ron is ten times worse...

    Is that you AP?

    I made a mess of OMF, Ron is prob hella pissed at me.

    I knew I was tweaking something, poking something here.

    I knew I was pushing up against Leviathan.

    Smelly goats are really dumb, they would fight God Wink

    I also at this moment think of the White Whale, Moby Dick.

    The white whale is the part of us we can never see.


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    Post by U Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:31 am

    smelly wrote:Don’t let them make you angry.



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:33 am

    Ha.

    My true secret.

    I have a rage in me.

    A rage monster.

    It would eat the world.
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    Post by U Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:34 am

    It is AP himself..

    I am the queen of APs

    They all report back to me

    We say in unison

    "MaN fUcK rON"

    We reach a disturbing silence
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:39 am

    There are many parts of you.

    I can relate.

    So here we find ourselves alone on the field of battle.

    In a field of dreams.

    I suppose we were always meant to meet this way.

    Not opposed, maybe a little spooked.

    I don’t live my life with a next before me.

    This is the tyranny of the real we face.

    The Dude abides even tic tacs and alien autopsies.

    The Magick of the Dude is he is always in over his head, but he just keeps going.

    Fuck it, I came this far.

    Straight on.
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    Memento Mori

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:46 am

    I just picked a card.

    It was the Thoth Queen of Wands with a cheetah on it.

    Sure, that’s cool Wink

    I’m in the Twilight Zone, might as well meet the Queen.
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    Post by U Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:47 am

    smelly wrote:

    The Magick of the Dude is he is always in over his head, but he just keeps going.

    Fuck it, I came this far.

    Straight on.

    You're telling me!

    Bwahahahahahahaha!
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    Amor Fati Muppets
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:55 am

    I admire the stick to it U.

    That can get some shit done.

    We have something those greys and fascists lack.

    Heart!
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:03 am

    The Queen of Fire brings together opposing forces who can maintain a chaotic partnership.

    Hmm, the Magick cards still work in the twilight zone, maybe even better.

    A cheetah, are you kidding me?

    If that ain’t contact then there never was.
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