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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Sun Jun 16, 2019 6:53 am

    First topic message reminder :

    Ok, 99,

    I think we can safely say that, in this past month, we have come close enough to Disclosure, for all practical purposes.  

    You’re being the mathematician about Disclosure, and I’m being the physicist, and I’ve told this story a few times, already, but it won’t hurt to tell it again.......

    A mathematician and a physicist walk into a bar, and sit on both sides of a very attractive woman.  The mathematician can only ever get halfway closer to the woman, but the physicist can get close enough for all practical purposes.  

    Think of the physicist as Donald Trump, and think of the Boys on the Bus.  

    Donald Trump will be known as the Disclosure President, for having helped to orchestrate what has transpired in the past month, not the least of which was chicken little realizing that, very likely, he was Visitor #1.  

    Will any self respecting ufologist feel satisfied with this, Sonfish, version of Disclosure?  I would seriously doubt it.  However, will any competent historian ever come up with a better peg for Revelation?  I would seriously doubt it.  

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    Post by Cuan Scott Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:20 am

    Interesting Hobbit

    Didn't know this about TT Brown.

    Am I correct in thinking that there is a story of Tesla building a unique water wheel at a young age?

    Similar principal perhaps?

    Rumi called it right Smile



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    Post by dan Wed Jun 26, 2019 6:45 am

    I’m all in favor of direct realism. It’s just the atoms that I’m a bit skeptical about.
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    Post by GSB/SSR Wed Jun 26, 2019 6:55 am

    An important survey of atoms revealed they too are skeptical about (Dan Smith level) realism. "We know we are real -- we exchange electrons after all -- but what evidence is there for an emergent higher level of reality? Dan Smith? Nah, everything is just atoms."


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    Post by dan Wed Jun 26, 2019 7:02 am

    Gary,  

    Funny boy, very funny. 

    My point about atoms is that they can be explained phenomenologically.
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    Post by hobbit Wed Jun 26, 2019 8:00 am

    Cuan Scott wrote:Interesting Hobbit

    Didn't know this about TT Brown.

    Am I correct in thinking that there is a story of Tesla building a unique water wheel at a young age?

    Similar principal perhaps?

    Rumi called it right Smile




    No walls....


    The clear bead at the centre changes everything,
    there are no edges to my loving now.
    I've heard it said.....

    There's a window that opens from one mind to the other, but if there is no wall,
    there is no need for fitting the window, or the latch.


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    Post by Cuan Scott Wed Jun 26, 2019 8:03 am

    I'm not a physicist but on the little I know I'm placing my vote with the SoT

    oh, and Rumi Smile

    Wonderful Hobbit!

    I am really pleased for you, me and everyone..
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    Post by hobbit Wed Jun 26, 2019 8:12 am

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_turbine

    Tesla first placed a slice of a tree trunk onto a shaft and saw how it rotated without blades.
    he was about five.

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    Post by dan Wed Jun 26, 2019 8:29 am

    hobbit, 

    Tesla was what is known as a walking portal.  

    In other words, you do not want to try this at home. 

    Or, MMV...... mileage may vary. 

    You may ask Joe Firmage about ambulatory portals. 

    And, in case you didn’t know it, hobbit, you, too, are, quite evidently, also a walking portal.
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    Post by hobbit Wed Jun 26, 2019 8:38 am

    dan wrote:hobbit, 

    Tesla was what is known as a walking portal.  

    In other words, you do not want to try this at home. 

    Or, MMV...... mileage may vary. 

    You may ask Joe Firmage about ambulatory portals. 

    And, in case you didn’t know it, hobbit, you, too, are, quite evidently, also a walking portal.

    My dyslexia thought You called Me a portaloo.

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    Post by hobbit Wed Jun 26, 2019 8:50 am

    https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Abbey+Church+of+Saint+Denis+Floor+Plan&FORM=IDINTS


    Abbot suger.

    Ambulatory east end of church=precise location.

    I have wandered about many, it's very humbling to follow in such footsteps.

    Manufique mes amis.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Jun 26, 2019 8:55 am

    Cuan Scott wrote:I'm not a physicist but on the little I know I'm placing my vote with the SoT

    oh, and Rumi Smile

    Wonderful Hobbit!

    I am really pleased for you, me and everyone..

    I don’t have any faith in any other human.

    I’m here.

    Just this.

    No one is gonna do it for you.

    There isn’t really anything to do.

    Jesus’ message was pretty clear on this.
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    Post by dan Wed Jun 26, 2019 9:08 am

    smelly, 

    Faith.........? 

    Only the best possible amount of faith in persons.  

    Me......?  I’m just the ice breaker...... one of the designated visitors. 

    Jesus wanted/needed a clean up crew....... he needed to be deiconized.  You of all people, smelly, should understand that.  

    And the prophetic tradition requires a final prophet.  Everyone, since Jesus has claimed to be that one.  chicken little is just no exception.  So, please excuse my non exceptionalism.  

    But.......... if there is going to be a final Vision, there has to be a Visionary.  Ask smelly if he has ever heard of a Vision Committee.  

    Persons do have visions.  I’ll wager that even smelly has had visions, especially at his tea parties.  



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    Post by 99 Wed Jun 26, 2019 9:09 am

    According to the quantum membrane-based model of the universe, one only needs to apply a rotational magnetic field within the vicinity one wants to create a portal... to create one. 

    So one way to do that is simply turn on a fan (on high) and face it at a wall where the fan is also blowing over a table of refrigerator magnets and presto! .... a portal may appear to open in the wall! (or some other thing to that effect)

    As this phenomenon is "phenomenal".... each time you try it out, you will need to set up everything a little differently from your previous portal experiment.by adding another additional object or effect to the mix to make it work again --- like a sound effect or crystals or flashing lights, chants ,a toy magic wand, Holy Water..etc ...basically you can use whatever you want. Doing this amps up the success of each subsequent experiment as it is consistent with the stochastic nature of the phenomenon.

    You will find some combo's work better than others but always include  a fan and magnets.

    Suggestion: Record everything with a video cam even if you don't see or hear anything while conducting the experiment.


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Jun 26, 2019 9:22 am

    dan wrote:smelly, 

    Faith.........? 

    Only the best possible amount of faith in persons.  

    Me......?  I’m just the ice breaker...... one of the designated visitors.

    You didn’t break any ice here.

    This icebreaker steamed right on through.

    Straight on.

    I am a force of nature.

    Not a small scared faithful muppet.

    Act accordingly.

    I hulk smashed all the iconz.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Jun 26, 2019 9:26 am

    Grandpa, nothing is required.

    It’s all done.

    Wake up.

    Stop confusing yourself and the muppets.

    The Philosopher maintains his delusion.

    The sky cannot fall
    Until you embrace it all
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    Post by dan Wed Jun 26, 2019 9:56 am

    smelly, 

    I embraced it all, back when you were kicking the slats out of your crib.  

    Seniority still counts for something in the prophetic tradition...... especially for folks who deny that tradition.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Jun 26, 2019 10:20 am

    Could have fooled me.

    But you can’t fool me Dan Wink

    I see right through you.

    I hear the wind blowing through you.

    Yah, I was wearing poopy pants then.

    You forgot, so God sent a smelly goat.


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    Post by 99 Wed Jun 26, 2019 10:48 am

    Look, I'm going with the core group here because only they know what's really going on behind the scenes wrt the current and continuing avalanche of classified UFO/ET leaks thats been released to the public. All of those researchers out there can only speculate about this or that by piecing together what info we DO have... 

    ... but that's not enough.

    Regardless that the core group knows everything but is not sharing much now on the leaks we've gotten so far, you can bet your boots that I'll be keeping a close eye on this group and what they are saying.

    Why go with second hand information on this matter when one can just as easily go to the source? For me personally, the answer to that question is obvious.
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    Post by hobbit Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:40 am

    Been looking at Rumi quotes after His name jumping at Me several times today, here and elsewhere.

    "Stop acting so small, You are the universe in ecstatic motion"

    I thought of Smelly when I saw that.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:47 am

    It’s all in the mind.

    And all want to constrain it.

    No, this is this.

    Be this.

    Deal with it Wink
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    Post by dan Wed Jun 26, 2019 12:01 pm

    smelly, 

    You might be dealing with the cosmic dealer.  

    Can you deal with that? 

    There has to be a responsible adult to sign the lease.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Jun 26, 2019 12:07 pm

    I can deal with anything.

    I’m a dead man walking.

    Why wouldn’t I be open for anything.

    I have no choice in that.

    If I choose to keep living, then implicitly, I can deal with anything.

    Most have their own view to live for.

    I do not.

    The view is the view.

    What do I care what shows up or what leaves?

    For me, I love what appears and I’m sad when it leaves.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Jun 26, 2019 12:09 pm

    dan wrote:smelly, 

    You might be dealing with the cosmic dealer.  

    Can you deal with that? 

    There has to be a responsible adult to sign the lease.

    I feel you are totally off with that view.

    Which is fine, your confusion.

    I don’t have to recognize any authority, nor do I.

    There is none, stop Wink

    But I can be polite around the delusional.
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    Post by dan Wed Jun 26, 2019 12:35 pm

    smelly, 

    There are folks who like to complain.  

    Would you deprive them of a cosmic suggestion box?  

    It is not all about you....... can you deal with that?

    smelly complains daily that there are too many God fearing muppets in the world.


    4:20........

    smelly hasn’t figured it out, yet....... I’m actually the anti God.


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    Post by Cuan Scott Wed Jun 26, 2019 12:36 pm

    Hobbit,

    I like Rumi's ‘Out beyond ideas of wrongdoing and rightdoing there is a field. I'll meet you there.' amongst several.


    I'm guessing Smelly would classify him as a wise muppet

    I said it before but, perhaps, if we are fortunate someone listened to Sagan all those years ago and is helping save us from ourselves'

    Maybe the someone was us, persons..

    I like to believe it is so, especially if it is the Best Possible World.

    I'm certain if Carl or Rumi where here now, they would want us all, together to have the 'and they all lived happily ever after'


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