Yes, 99, we have Disclosure......

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Ok, 99,

I think we can safely say that, in this past month, we have come close enough to Disclosure, for all practical purposes.  

You’re being the mathematician about Disclosure, and I’m being the physicist, and I’ve told this story a few times, already, but it won’t hurt to tell it again.......

A mathematician and a physicist walk into a bar, and sit on both sides of a very attractive woman.  The mathematician can only ever get halfway closer to the woman, but the physicist can get close enough for all practical purposes.  

Think of the physicist as Donald Trump, and think of the Boys on the Bus.  

Donald Trump will be known as the Disclosure President, for having helped to orchestrate what has transpired in the past month, not the least of which was chicken little realizing that, very likely, he was Visitor #1.  

Will any self respecting ufologist feel satisfied with this, Sonfish, version of Disclosure?  I would seriously doubt it.  However, will any competent historian ever come up with a better peg for Revelation?  I would seriously doubt it.  

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Interesting Hobbit

Didn't know this about TT Brown.

Am I correct in thinking that there is a story of Tesla building a unique water wheel at a young age?

Similar principal perhaps?

Rumi called it right

I’m all in favor of direct realism. It’s just the atoms that I’m a bit skeptical about.

An important survey of atoms revealed they too are skeptical about (Dan Smith level) realism. "We know we are real -- we exchange electrons after all -- but what evidence is there for an emergent higher level of reality? Dan Smith? Nah, everything is just atoms."

Gary,  

Funny boy, very funny. 

My point about atoms is that they can be explained phenomenologically.

Cuan Scott wrote:Interesting Hobbit

Didn't know this about TT Brown.

Am I correct in thinking that there is a story of Tesla building a unique water wheel at a young age?

Similar principal perhaps?

Rumi called it right

No walls....


The clear bead at the centre changes everything,
there are no edges to my loving now.
I've heard it said.....

There's a window that opens from one mind to the other, but if there is no wall,
there is no need for fitting the window, or the latch.


hobbit

I'm not a physicist but on the little I know I'm placing my vote with the SoT

oh, and Rumi

Wonderful Hobbit!

I am really pleased for you, me and everyone..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_turbine

Tesla first placed a slice of a tree trunk onto a shaft and saw how it rotated without blades.
he was about five.

hobbit

hobbit, 

Tesla was what is known as a walking portal.  

In other words, you do not want to try this at home. 

Or, MMV...... mileage may vary. 

You may ask Joe Firmage about ambulatory portals. 

And, in case you didn’t know it, hobbit, you, too, are, quite evidently, also a walking portal.

dan wrote:hobbit, 

Tesla was what is known as a walking portal.  

In other words, you do not want to try this at home. 

Or, MMV...... mileage may vary. 

You may ask Joe Firmage about ambulatory portals. 

And, in case you didn’t know it, hobbit, you, too, are, quite evidently, also a walking portal.

My dyslexia thought You called Me a portaloo.

hobbit

https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Abbey+Church+of+Saint+Denis+Floor+Plan&FORM=IDINTS


Abbot suger.

Ambulatory east end of church=precise location.

I have wandered about many, it's very humbling to follow in such footsteps.

Manufique mes amis.

hobbit

Cuan Scott wrote:I'm not a physicist but on the little I know I'm placing my vote with the SoT

oh, and Rumi

Wonderful Hobbit!

I am really pleased for you, me and everyone..

I don’t have any faith in any other human.

I’m here.

Just this.

No one is gonna do it for you.

There isn’t really anything to do.

Jesus’ message was pretty clear on this.

smelly, 

Faith.........? 

Only the best possible amount of faith in persons.  

Me......?  I’m just the ice breaker...... one of the designated visitors. 

Jesus wanted/needed a clean up crew....... he needed to be deiconized.  You of all people, smelly, should understand that.  

And the prophetic tradition requires a final prophet.  Everyone, since Jesus has claimed to be that one.  chicken little is just no exception.  So, please excuse my non exceptionalism.  

But.......... if there is going to be a final Vision, there has to be a Visionary.  Ask smelly if he has ever heard of a Vision Committee.  

Persons do have visions.  I’ll wager that even smelly has had visions, especially at his tea parties.  



(cont.......)

According to the quantum membrane-based model of the universe, one only needs to apply a rotational magnetic field within the vicinity one wants to create a portal... to create one. 

So one way to do that is simply turn on a fan (on high) and face it at a wall where the fan is also blowing over a table of refrigerator magnets and presto! .... a portal may appear to open in the wall! (or some other thing to that effect)

As this phenomenon is "phenomenal".... each time you try it out, you will need to set up everything a little differently from your previous portal experiment.by adding another additional object or effect to the mix to make it work again --- like a sound effect or crystals or flashing lights, chants ,a toy magic wand, Holy Water..etc ...basically you can use whatever you want. Doing this amps up the success of each subsequent experiment as it is consistent with the stochastic nature of the phenomenon.

You will find some combo's work better than others but always include  a fan and magnets.

Suggestion: Record everything with a video cam even if you don't see or hear anything while conducting the experiment.

dan wrote:smelly, 

Faith.........? 

Only the best possible amount of faith in persons.  

Me......?  I’m just the ice breaker...... one of the designated visitors.

You didn’t break any ice here.

This icebreaker steamed right on through.

Straight on.

I am a force of nature.

Not a small scared faithful muppet.

Act accordingly.

I hulk smashed all the iconz.

Grandpa, nothing is required.

It’s all done.

Wake up.

Stop confusing yourself and the muppets.

The Philosopher maintains his delusion.

The sky cannot fall
Until you embrace it all

smelly, 

I embraced it all, back when you were kicking the slats out of your crib.  

Seniority still counts for something in the prophetic tradition...... especially for folks who deny that tradition.

Could have fooled me.

But you can’t fool me Dan

I see right through you.

I hear the wind blowing through you.

Yah, I was wearing poopy pants then.

You forgot, so God sent a smelly goat.

Look, I'm going with the core group here because only they know what's really going on behind the scenes wrt the current and continuing avalanche of classified UFO/ET leaks thats been released to the public. All of those researchers out there can only speculate about this or that by piecing together what info we DO have... 

... but that's not enough.

Regardless that the core group knows everything but is not sharing much now on the leaks we've gotten so far, you can bet your boots that I'll be keeping a close eye on this group and what they are saying.

Why go with second hand information on this matter when one can just as easily go to the source? For me personally, the answer to that question is obvious.

Been looking at Rumi quotes after His name jumping at Me several times today, here and elsewhere.

"Stop acting so small, You are the universe in ecstatic motion"

I thought of Smelly when I saw that.

hobbit

It’s all in the mind.

And all want to constrain it.

No, this is this.

Be this.

Deal with it

smelly, 

You might be dealing with the cosmic dealer.  

Can you deal with that? 

There has to be a responsible adult to sign the lease.

I can deal with anything.

I’m a dead man walking.

Why wouldn’t I be open for anything.

I have no choice in that.

If I choose to keep living, then implicitly, I can deal with anything.

Most have their own view to live for.

I do not.

The view is the view.

What do I care what shows up or what leaves?

For me, I love what appears and I’m sad when it leaves.

dan wrote:smelly, 

You might be dealing with the cosmic dealer.  

Can you deal with that? 

There has to be a responsible adult to sign the lease.

I feel you are totally off with that view.

Which is fine, your confusion.

I don’t have to recognize any authority, nor do I.

There is none, stop

But I can be polite around the delusional.

smelly, 

There are folks who like to complain.  

Would you deprive them of a cosmic suggestion box?  

It is not all about you....... can you deal with that?

smelly complains daily that there are too many God fearing muppets in the world.


4:20........

smelly hasn’t figured it out, yet....... I’m actually the anti God.

Hobbit,

I like Rumi's ‘Out beyond ideas of wrongdoing and rightdoing there is a field. I'll meet you there.' amongst several.


I'm guessing Smelly would classify him as a wise muppet

I said it before but, perhaps, if we are fortunate someone listened to Sagan all those years ago and is helping save us from ourselves'

Maybe the someone was us, persons..

I like to believe it is so, especially if it is the Best Possible World.

I'm certain if Carl or Rumi where here now, they would want us all, together to have the 'and they all lived happily ever after'