Am I going to be our best possible God for the Endtimes?

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Ok, am I going to be our best possible God for the Endtimes? ..... is the topic under discussion......

I say, yes...... and open the topic to discussion......

1) You may argue there is such thing as God.  

2)  Were there such a thing, we would have no need of it.  

3)  You may, of course, put forward another candidate.  

Etc...... etc......

I’m just my protocol.

As always, you can do as you like.

I have no agreement or disagreement.

I’m here dude.

Conceptualize it as you like.

I am pointing here.

Pointing and looking at the moon.

Seeing what is here in space.

Three and more are happening here.

KISS

A suggestion, let us not speak of God.

It muddies the water and rustles some of our feathers who have no such conception of being.

Let us speak about where and who we are now.

I can’t speak about god.

But please do as you need to.

If you speak of god, I will be silent.

smelly,

Space.......... you say!  

What the heck is space?  You’d better start practicing what you preach.  

You can’t even follow your own protocol!  


Yes, smelly, whereof you do not know how to speak....... remaining silent would be a wise choice.

When I think of God, I think of the anthropic principle........ and I think of the greatest story ever told, and the likely prospect that is was not written by a committee.  

Yes, you can put an idea to a focus group....... just don’t ask the focus group to produce a vision.  If you want a vision, you’ll just have to wait patiently for the visionary.  We’ve been waiting patiently for two thousand years.  



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trinity to infinity...and beyond

go team go!

we are doing great

We do aim to please........


And, yes, we can give up every belief....... we just can’t give up hope and compassion.

We’re going to have a hard time seeing through the Moon, if we cannot see hope on the other side.  

Yes, the Moon is a portal, but a portal to what?

The Moon is a portal to the Mo(o)nand.  That’s what all the scientists, philosophers and poets failed to recognize...... failed to articulate.  The ancients might have had a clue.  

All roads lead to Rome, but, over the Aeons, the silver cord of the Moon has held a special place in our hearts.  Did Neal sever the umbilical?   No.  He personalized it.  

The j-guy and the chicken hope to personalize the Monad....... we’ll succeed, with a little help from our friends.  

Yes, the j-guy did the heavy hitting, but someone had to bat cleanup.  



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When you give up delusions and beliefs, what is left is where you began.

I have no names for this.

I only have learned monkey sounds.

Every word is one of mimicry.

All to describe things and their relations.

What is space?

What are things?

Appearances of this.

Aspects.

I can speak about my aspect or make hand signs or draw on walls or in the sand or scream or dance or spit.

But I can’t speak of anything more than that without leaving here.

And we’re here to help you out.  

Don’t be embarrassed to accept a little help.


4:40.........

Sam (79) has agreed to help celebrate, at lunch, tomorrow.  Us, grandpas, we have to stick together.  


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I'll take all the help the cosmos offers, but I was not aware I was in need of any here.

Things just kind of magically happen and appear, very curious.

What could be needed?

Everything we need is here.

How could we possibly share this?

We are here pointing here.

KISS

Aaron,

If that’s actually the case, then this, here, must be the Monad...... so we have already been Raptured.

I can almost feel the Rapture.

Personally, I thought it was going to be a little more difficult.

What if someone doesn’t want to be Raptured, just yet, but they are already within our gravitational spell....... already within our event horizon..... I mean is there any hope for them?

I mean, we should put up a warning sign....... Abandon all hope, ye who enter here!  


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It's not as hard as one would think

The hardest part is recognizing how easy it is

Yes, this is the monad, we have been raptured...if...if...

You have let your beliefs and delusions go.

Then watch how the world is exactly as it was, but now, you are here with it

Best to hold the words about it.

It’s almost easy peasy........

But, I mean, can I still be God, if want to be?

I know you don’t like that word, smelly, but you know what I mean.

The monad was always here

We were looking in all the wrong places, but it was there too, it was just being a little shy

It is easy peasy

Everyone is invited

Monad or bust!

Imagine....... a Monad being bashful....... who’d a thunk it?

But I thought there was only supposed to be one Monad, so maybe I should have said...... _the_  Monad.......


Aaron,

Yes, I guess there’s nothing left to believe in, after we’ve become One with the Monad....... nothing left to lose....... wherever three or more of you are gathered together in My Name.  

Now, can another three people set up a competing Monad, or, if we have built the best possible Monad, will the world have to beat a path to our doorstep?  Just wondering.......

Yes, this is the portal to end all portals!  

I guess we’ll just have to spread the good news.......

Think of all the muppets out there, just waiting to be saved......

And what story do we tell the ufologists....... that they have already been Abducted......?  

And what am I gonna tell Sam........ that Peak Oil and the population problem have already been solved?  I don’t think he’s going to believe me.  

Sam is like...... Mr Skeptic...... but, at least, he agreed to help me celebrate my Godshipness..... or my nomination thereto.  I wonder if he’ll give me his vote....... will he swear on a stack of bibles that he will vote for me?



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Yes

Spread the good news!

We welcome any competing trifecta with open arms

Foot, Princess, and Kashmir would be another powerful trifecta

Maybe they are the best possible Trinity

Ok, they don’t have to acknowledge our Monad, if they don’t want to........ but it would kinda be like being a party pooper.  

And what if Kim decides to drop the bomb......... can he still be invited to the Party?

I just hope the Princess comes....... that’s all I really care about....... well, and Lais, too........

Even Hitler and Genghis and Pol Pot, Alexander and Napoleon and Churchill are invited, those SOBs!

Every tyrant who sought to materially impose the monad on the matrix.

We have learned that doesn't work.

It only delayed the inevitable.

Kingdoms ended about 2500 B.C.E.

Then they rose again trying to make heaven on earth.

We got the enlightenment out of it, more misdirection?

Yes, smelly, look on the bright side.......

But, wait....... I thought we were making Heaven on Earth..... and our Heaven is not even a work in progress, is it, smelly?


And, yes, Aaron....... the more Monads, the merrier....... we can never have too many Monads.  The historians will have to sort out which Monad was the firstest with the mostest.  I mean, we have a Princess, I hope....... oh, wait, we are supposed to have abandoned all hope!  It does get confusing....... being One with the One, and all that.

I mean, I’ll have to admit, if I’m Monadnock and smelly is Mohammed....... we did, finally, have to bring the mountain to Mohammed.  smelly won that one.  

Poor Aaron....... what did you win, Aaron?



(cont........)

I win nothing

What more could I ask for?

Actually....I got my dear wife and three little kiddos

That's everything

Winner winner chicken dinner

My my
At Waterloo Napoleon did surrender
Oh yeah
And I have met my destiny in quite a similar way
The history book on the shelf
Is always repeating itself
Waterloo I was defeated, you won the war
Waterloo promise to love you for ever more
Waterloo couldn't escape if I wanted to
Waterloo knowing my fate is to be with you
Waterloo finally facing my Waterloo

Very good.

I wonder how many on earth stand here now?

From history?

We seem to bump into each other when we let our freak flag fly.

This world of man's imagination is what it is.

It's happening, so we have to consider it as a natural process.

“There is a Zen story (very funny — ha-ha) about a monk who, having failed to achieve “enlightenment” (brain-change) through the normal Zen methods, was told by his teacher to think of nothing but an ox. Day after day after day, the monk thought of the ox, visualized the ox, meditated on the ox. Finally, one day, the teacher came to the monk’s cell and said, “Come out here — I want to talk to you.”

“I can’t get out,” the monk said. “My horns won’t fit through the door.”

I can’t get out . . .

At these words, the monk was “enlightened.” Never mind what “enlightenment” means, right now. The monk went through some species of brain change, obviously. He had developed the delusion that he was an ox, and awakening from that hypnoidal state he saw through the mechanism of all other delusions and how they robotize us.”

—Robert Anton Wilson, Prometheus Rising

http://www.hilaritaspress.com/portfolio-item/prometheus-rising/

I am not as good as RAW, but I think I can make a pretty good gorilla ontologist as he described himself.

I think I’ve done pretty good so far.

As he did, I found my way with no gurus, I used the moon and sun and shadow.

There is so much bullshit out there.

Religion is not the way, time to face reality head on here.

Now that I have my sharp sword, I can continue in his vein.

This sword is light as a feather, but my god, is it sharp.

I have to keep it sheathed.

I can’t believe how powerful it is.

I can’t believe anything anymore

It just is.

This is just the way things are.

I jump out attacking unprovoked.

I attack language and knowledge the way the anarchists and terrorists attack the machine.

It has been a fun fight.

Nothing survived my sword, not even my self.

I hide behind my dancing and laughing.

We are two parts mainly, the thinker, who can model and imagine and consider and reason and the simple prover.

The thinker can make itself sick or well, imagine Nazism, Nationalism, Socialism, Fascism or come up with Buddhism, Christianity, Islam, etc.

Most are too asleep to even think much.

Thinking goes a long way as Dan has illustrated so well.

He prob has one of the most open minds I have come across, even though he is very confused about Jesus and a few other points, he is fighting the good fight from within the bag. Is he a liar?

Well, yes and no, as we all are.

We can pick our lies to hide behind.

But he can’t hide from me.

He can’t turn his gaze away.

And it has led him here.

As I was led here.

I just couldn’t let it go.

Whatever the thinker thinks, the prover will prove.

Avoid conclusions.

Dan is not a biologist.

Who are we really?

Let’s stick to what is here.

These bodies and minds.

smelly,

You keep telling me what to do and not to do........ almost as if you expected me to follow your suggestions.  Had I done this, our conversation would have ended long ago...... probably never even started.  

Your hope of my conversion to ‘Buddhism’ springs eternal.  Your hopes perplex me, just as mine must perplex you.  

Yes, in modernity, intellectuals may have polite conversations about Buddha, but not about Jesus.  I guess I’m just less polite than you.  


Thank you for introducing us to Robert Sapolsky........ an interesting chap.  He is one of the more prominent and outspoken anti reductionists around, evidently.  As an aside, we might wonder how anti reductionism is trending in academia.  I don’t have my finger on that pulse, anymore.  

Sub rosa, being an anti reductionist labels you as a quasi personalist..... a personalist in the weak, non cosmological, sense, at least.  

But let me remind us....... non reductionism is a very slippery slope..... if you’re going to survive in polite society, you simply have to jump off that truck with no brakes...... and the sooner the better.... otherwise you will end up in a padded cell, or as best buddies with a professional spook.  
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Poor hobbit, you just can’t get your head around the possibility that the universe is made up.  The troika, and most others here are doing exactly that, exactly here.  I believe you’ve gotten yourself on the wrong boat.  I advise you to jump, while you can still swim ashore.  
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noon.........

Very politely, smelly is asking the world to stop so that he can get off..... not unlike hobbit, in that sense.

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dan wrote:hobbit,

One person’s garbage is another person’s bouquet.  

If you don’t make fun of my garbage, I won’t make fun of your bouquet.  


smelly,

There are not three........

When I look here, I see a goat, a wolf and a chicken.  

Isn’t that three?  

I mean, let’s not overthink this....... KISS.......


When you look at the moon, see the moon and nothing else.......

Obviously, smelly, this is a very difficult thing to do for most of us.  

So do you mind if I attempt to break it down into baby steps, for some of the rest of us?  

I’m presenting a twelve step program.   You’re demanding that we do it one giant leap.  Some of us may not be as blessed as you were.  

See if you can find that much compassion in your heart.......



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I hope the link I posted is not your "bouquet!," ?


Unless of course You are intending to blow up this universe ( big bang ) and make another one, as that link said god did.


Utter made up crap.


Hobbit