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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    First topic message reminder :

    This is the continuation of the Immaterialism 4 thread.......

    The original topic reminder post https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t320-immaterialism
    should be substituted here......

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Feb 01, 2019 10:55 am

    Whoknows

    Bahahahahahahaha

    A dude who is thoroughly with him self.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Feb 01, 2019 10:58 am

    dan wrote:Be nice and play fair, everyone.  

    I’ll be mostly off the grid for the next couple of weeks.  

    Wish us luck with KWF conservativation......

    Thought retreats to lick its wounds and strategize about its next course of action.

    Silly rabbits, tricks are for children.

    You shall only meet your end in my sharp mongoose teeth.

    I spend all day filing my teeth.

    I shall kill every one of you snakes and eat your entrails and in your blood I shall see my true face.

    smelly...behave.

    NO

    This is MY Cosmos
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    Post by painterdoug Fri Feb 01, 2019 11:55 am

    Dan/ have a great time and best to all/ d
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Feb 01, 2019 12:46 pm

    America is a Death cult.

    It's going to fail because its unbalanced.

    You can't just print money, when you don't include death in the equation.

    Our culture is a lie for fools.

    We suffer greatly due to our Denial of Death.

    Life is a dream, may we minimize the suffering if we can?

    This is a very wise muppet if you see beyond your tribal muppet filters.

    These guys are playing their game with all your lives.

    It's turtles all the way up and down.



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Feb 01, 2019 12:49 pm

    painterdoug wrote:Dan/   have a great time and best to all/  d

    He can run, but he can't hide.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Feb 01, 2019 12:56 pm

    Hey, look at this.

    This person named TrueCompanion on OMF sends silly emails to people on OMF proselytizing.

    Turns out he sends them to people all over the Internet.

    https://forums.catholic.com/t/i-think-im-being-proselytized/276723

    Bahahahahahahaha

    Hey labellaglen@gmail.com, let me tell you something, you are deluded.

    Empty your head of all Thoughts but ONE, because they have really confused you...

    I AM

    Who the fuck do you think you are talking to?!

    I AM

    Get it?!

    Now stop bugging people on Earth with illusions and clear up your own confusion.

    Or don't Wink

    If you want to commune as I AM, you can join my private Slack chat, otherwise, stick to saving other confused tribal muppets.

    Same goes for all you clueless missionaries and spies amd materialists.

    My tent is the biggest tent in the cosmos.

    Come on in.

    All are welcome.

    No Logos or sacred signs needed.

    Just be naturally your self and watch what happens.

    No-thing.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Feb 01, 2019 1:22 pm

    When you have no thing to lose
    You can give it all away
    My treasure chest is always open
    Take all I have
    What do I care
    I am stupid
    I am an idiot
    I give all my Logos freely
    I am just a bleating goat
    A barking dog

    Any who holds things close are simply prolonging the inevitable.

    That includes:

    Tribes
    Beliefs
    Politics
    Economics
    Missions
    Problems
    Solutions

    Now what can Thought take?

    Thought will rebel.

    It will ostracize you.

    It will try to stop you.

    But you can beat it by not fighting it.

    Just give it all you have and you will realize things.
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    Post by AtomicBrando Fri Feb 01, 2019 1:38 pm

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    Post by SurfBum Fri Feb 01, 2019 1:59 pm

    No more Intruders allowed in our home.

    Stay away!

    The door is locked.

    There is nothing here for you.

    Our home is simple and empty.

    I don't know anything, now go away!
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    Post by AtomicBrando Fri Feb 01, 2019 6:16 pm

    That’s not very nice Wink

    You have spent way way way too much time communing with the goat.

    He might be the Devil.

    You should spend some time with AP, I’m sure you would love each other.

    AP seems very invested in what he is doing and he is hyper critical of anyone not doing his thang.

    Perhaps AP needs some goat time.

    AP would enjoy being bashed around awhile.

    Why do we separate ourselves from people?

    Always because of our own confusion.

    The cosmos is not confused, it is always happening and connected.
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    Post by Foot Mann Fri Feb 01, 2019 7:50 pm

    I can Disclose that the Discloser has returned to Work. It is time for all here to go Besirk. Soon he will Disclose the time of Day, when everyone else will have run Away.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Feb 01, 2019 8:20 pm

    The smelly goat sticks it.

    I don’t blink.

    I AM as constant as the Sun.

    I can wait all of you out.
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    Post by SurfBum Fri Feb 01, 2019 10:16 pm

    The Queen of Dragons’ reign begins Now.



    Dracarys!



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    Post by RunningBull Fri Feb 01, 2019 11:02 pm

    Aaron wrote:The Queen of Dragons’ reign begins Now.



    Dracarys!



    Wink

    First beast unleashed? We are in for it now, then.
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    Post by GH Sat Feb 02, 2019 12:40 pm

    Aaron wrote:No more Intruders allowed in our home.

    Stay away!

    The door is locked.

    There is nothing here for you.

    Our home is simple and empty.

    I don't know anything, now go away!

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Feb 02, 2019 2:42 pm

    a new butterfly
    has stopped by
    an atypical
    muppet perhaps
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Feb 02, 2019 3:46 pm

    We are all here magicians now, making visible what is invisible.

    “Auguries of Innocence”

    BY WILLIAM BLAKE

    To see a World in a Grain of Sand
    And a Heaven in a Wild Flower
    Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand
    And Eternity in an hour
    A Robin Red breast in a Cage
    Puts all Heaven in a Rage
    A Dove house filld with Doves & Pigeons
    Shudders Hell thr' all its regions
    A dog starvd at his Masters Gate
    Predicts the ruin of the State
    A Horse misusd upon the Road
    Calls to Heaven for Human blood
    Each outcry of the hunted Hare
    A fibre from the Brain does tear
    A Skylark wounded in the wing
    A Cherubim does cease to sing
    The Game Cock clipd & armd for fight
    Does the Rising Sun affright
    Every Wolfs & Lions howl
    Raises from Hell a Human Soul
    The wild deer, wandring here & there
    Keeps the Human Soul from Care
    The Lamb misusd breeds Public Strife
    And yet forgives the Butchers knife
    The Bat that flits at close of Eve
    Has left the Brain that wont Believe
    The Owl that calls upon the Night
    Speaks the Unbelievers fright
    He who shall hurt the little Wren
    Shall never be belovd by Men
    He who the Ox to wrath has movd
    Shall never be by Woman lovd
    The wanton Boy that kills the Fly
    Shall feel the Spiders enmity
    He who torments the Chafers Sprite
    Weaves a Bower in endless Night
    The Catterpiller on the Leaf
    Repeats to thee thy Mothers grief
    Kill not the Moth nor Butterfly
    For the Last Judgment draweth nigh
    He who shall train the Horse to War
    Shall never pass the Polar Bar
    The Beggars Dog & Widows Cat
    Feed them & thou wilt grow fat
    The Gnat that sings his Summers Song
    Poison gets from Slanders tongue
    The poison of the Snake & Newt
    Is the sweat of Envys Foot
    The poison of the Honey Bee
    Is the Artists Jealousy
    The Princes Robes & Beggars Rags
    Are Toadstools on the Misers Bags
    A Truth thats told with bad intent
    Beats all the Lies you can invent
    It is right it should be so
    Man was made for Joy & Woe
    And when this we rightly know
    Thro the World we safely go
    Joy & Woe are woven fine
    A Clothing for the soul divine
    Under every grief & pine
    Runs a joy with silken twine
    The Babe is more than swadling Bands
    Throughout all these Human Lands
    Tools were made & Born were hands
    Every Farmer Understands
    Every Tear from Every Eye
    Becomes a Babe in Eternity
    This is caught by Females bright
    And returnd to its own delight
    The Bleat the Bark Bellow & Roar
    Are Waves that Beat on Heavens Shore
    The Babe that weeps the Rod beneath
    Writes Revenge in realms of Death
    The Beggars Rags fluttering in Air
    Does to Rags the Heavens tear
    The Soldier armd with Sword & Gun
    Palsied strikes the Summers Sun
    The poor Mans Farthing is worth more
    Than all the Gold on Africs Shore
    One Mite wrung from the Labrers hands
    Shall buy & sell the Misers Lands
    Or if protected from on high
    Does that whole Nation sell & buy
    He who mocks the Infants Faith
    Shall be mockd in Age & Death
    He who shall teach the Child to Doubt
    The rotting Grave shall neer get out
    He who respects the Infants faith
    Triumphs over Hell & Death
    The Childs Toys & the Old Mans Reasons
    Are the Fruits of the Two seasons
    The Questioner who sits so sly
    Shall never know how to Reply
    He who replies to words of Doubt
    Doth put the Light of Knowledge out
    The Strongest Poison ever known
    Came from Caesars Laurel Crown
    Nought can Deform the Human Race
    Like to the Armours iron brace
    When Gold & Gems adorn the Plow
    To peaceful Arts shall Envy Bow
    A Riddle or the Crickets Cry
    Is to Doubt a fit Reply
    The Emmets Inch & Eagles Mile
    Make Lame Philosophy to smile
    He who Doubts from what he sees
    Will neer Believe do what you Please
    If the Sun & Moon should Doubt
    Theyd immediately Go out
    To be in a Passion you Good may Do
    But no Good if a Passion is in you
    The Whore & Gambler by the State
    Licencd build that Nations Fate
    The Harlots cry from Street to Street
    Shall weave Old Englands winding Sheet
    The Winners Shout the Losers Curse
    Dance before dead Englands Hearse
    Every Night & every Morn
    Some to Misery are Born
    Every Morn and every Night
    Some are Born to sweet delight
    Some are Born to sweet delight
    Some are Born to Endless Night
    We are led to Believe a Lie
    When we see not Thro the Eye
    Which was Born in a Night to perish in a Night
    When the Soul Slept in Beams of Light
    God Appears & God is Light
    To those poor Souls who dwell in Night
    But does a Human Form Display
    To those who Dwell in Realms of day
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    Post by U Sat Feb 02, 2019 9:38 pm

    Queen of Dragons eh?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninhursag

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:47 am

    There was nothing ever to see or find here.

    No one needs what you know or have.

    No one can help you.

    You can be of no assistance.

    BEFORE COMPLETION - 64

    In this tradition of wei wu wei,
    we don’t have a thing to offer you.
    That is why you can rely upon
    it for everything.

    -Wei Wu Wei
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    Post by dan Sun Feb 03, 2019 10:40 am

    smelly is right,  

    There is nothing to see here, because you already know everything.  

    We’re just here to remind that you already know, and have already seen everything.  You will remember when you need to remember.

    We are having lunch on the San Francisco river in Brazil.


    .......
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Feb 03, 2019 11:33 am

    Enjoy yourself Dan.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Feb 03, 2019 2:18 pm

    It is only the rational mind that resists being natural and accepting things as they are.

    The intellect that doubts is idolizing being as much as the one that sees and worships god as other.

    Double bind.

    This is what the Sufis call the Test of the Veil.

    The Veil exists so that we can know our self.

    We are born into opacity, doubt is opacity.

    To not doubt, one relaxes and finds their natural state of being as a process of seeing and knowing self.

    Then no problems.

    Then don’t know.

    Then all is accepted naturally.

    A world where god is dead is a dead world god can not see.

    All things are just facets reflecting the one.

    These masks aren’t to be idolized and taken literally, thinking you are an alone I is self idolatry, that leads to a dead nihilistic cosmos, yuk!

    Our culture is based on self idolatry.

    It infused mind with self doubt, which causes anxiety and fear.

    Wholeness is natural.

    Being is effortless.

    We know we are whole when relaxed.

    Then our vision clears and we see clearly.

    Missions and anxiety is not wholeness, it’s mental illness and the Veil.

    Good vs. Evil is a complex.

    Science is a complex.

    Religion is a complex.

    Atheism and reason is a complex.

    Material UFO worship is a complex.

    Rejoice!

    All of that is nonsense from a dead world.

    Drop it all and you will float.

    You are alone with the alone!

    Right now!

    To say it’s a test is not clear, no one is being tested, there is no reward.

    Being natural is it’s own reward.

    Words break down at the event horizon where space stretches to infinity.

    You are a part of the process.

    That should give you some peace.

    Your body just works, so does all of this.

    It’s working perfectly.

    All is well because I AM the eyes of God.

    Relax muppets.

    Fake it til you make it.

    Ignore the haters.

    They are doubting opaque muppets.

    Your mind could never make a net big enough to capture it all.

    So if your peace isn’t based on knowing it all, you can relax and can have instant peace.  

    Don’t sweat it.

    You got this, we got this all in our hands.

    God is not dead sillies.

    “The universe is not only stranger than we suppose, but stranger than we can suppose.”

    —J. B. S. Haldane

    A little humility at the awesomeness of being maybe.

    It is fucking awesome to be here now.
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    Post by U Mon Feb 04, 2019 10:39 pm

    "Thou shall find to the left of the house of Hades a well-spring, and by the side thereof standing a white cypress. To this well-spring approach not near. But thou shalt find another by the lake of memory, cold water flowing forth, and there are guardians before it. Say: 'I Am a child of Earth and of starry heaven; But my race is of Ouranos. This ye know yourselves. And lo, I am parched with thirst and I perish. Give me quickly the cold water flowing forth from the lake of memory.' And of themselves they will give thee to drink from the holy well-spring, And therafter among the other heroes thou shalt have lordship."
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    Post by Cuan Scott Tue Feb 05, 2019 4:33 pm

    Dan,

    Yes wishing you and all an enjoyable excursion Smile
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    Post by Cuan Scott Tue Feb 05, 2019 4:35 pm

    smelly wrote:

    “Auguries of Innocence”

    BY WILLIAM BLAKE

    To see a World in a Grain of Sand
    And a Heaven in a Wild Flower
    Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand
    And Eternity in an hour
    A Robin Red breast in a Cage
    Puts all Heaven in a Rage...


    A fine choice by the Goat!

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