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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:24 am

    First topic message reminder :

    This is the continuation of the Immaterialism 3 thread.......

    The original topic reminder post https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t320-immaterialism
    should be substituted here......

    ............
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    Post by dan Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:54 am

    I’m also trying to help take care of my granddaughter......for a few days.


    I asked Aaron about the use of guides.......

    He denied that they would be of any use.



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    Post by Pkisfake Sun Jan 20, 2019 11:24 am

    Some blather thinking they are important from their lil comfy spot...
    But they only have time for blather...as evidenced by their actions.
    They criticize thinking they know the REAL reality... but have  by the very nature of their arguments consigned themselves to apathy ...

    Others have enough talent, vision & tenacity  to try to make the world a better place...and less hell for the next.

    Some preach "selflessness"..,some LIVE it.

    If you blog here every day...you may have a mental illness... and perhaps you could make it less hell for the next also ...  or for yourself if you were of that philosophy that we are all one ...

    But rest assured....

    Ron's LONG GAME  of taunting those with mental illness that gravitate to him ...because of hope .... is OVER! Skimming Dan out of a lot of money... but also being personally responsible for 12 times that he's been arrested by encouraging Dan to do something crazy which must've made RON laugh and laugh and laugh ...  it must've been particularly funny when Dan lost control of his own assets because of that ... is any of this false Dan?

    Many people seek out Ron... they give the daughter gifts to ingratiate themselves… But look what the 35 years of devout loyalty has done for Dan... but go ahead and pursue that path… It's very clear to everyone on the outside...and you could save a lot of time by just reading Faust

    The sweet poetry is... after all those years being in the top position as a top scientist… He still doesn't understand "the others "...
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    Post by dan Sun Jan 20, 2019 11:41 am

    PK,

    I big part of Disclosure is to allow everyone else to think they could have done it better.

    I’m sure that Tom and Hal could have done it better.


    I really don’t want to dignify any of PK’s accusations by having to respond to them, so let me say, for the record, that every one of them is false and silly, to boot.  

    So, there.  Now I have dignified PK by responding to him.  I hope you feel all the dignity, PK, but don’t let it go to your head.  

    Sorry, I have to go out and get a new pacifier for my granddaughter.....

    ....


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    Post by hobbit Sun Jan 20, 2019 11:46 am

    "Top scientist"

    This equates to been pope.

    They defend their assumed superiority, as they consider themselves king of the castle.

    I have met many, and been ridiculed by all.

    They are basically super repeaters of a religion.

    There is more truth in My dogs eyes than any scientist I have had the misfortune to meet.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Jan 20, 2019 11:53 am

    I love getting Dan going.

    I just have to be my self.

    He’s easy pickenz.

    He is looking out from inside the glazz.

    Hello in there little chicken, head won’t fit through the hole?

    He’s a prep boy snob.

    I’m the bastard who has beaten him to the grail and ate his lunch.

    He hates it.

    Bahahahahaha

    He’s sooooo jealous of the smelly goat.

    Let that be a lesson to you old man.

    Now sssshhhhhhhhhhhh

    Go away and retire somewhere maybe and relax.

    We can both rest when we are dead I guess.

    I’m in Dan’s way, but it’s not his Way.

    The Way is the Way.

    Never know what might appear.

    He can’t go around me.

    He will have to come into the deep water now.



    How to cut through the tangle?

    Straight on.


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    Post by SurfBum Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:08 pm

    What!?

    read your message again Dan.

    I did not say that.

    I said we guide ourselves with our appearances naturally.

    We can guide others without having the mission to do so just by the way we live our lives.

    You can say our mission to guide ourselves was written into creation, all we have to do is act naturally, free and spontaneous we trust ourselves as we feel to be and act in every moment.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:40 pm

    What a wimp.

    Dan makes evil where he fears to tread.

    Coward really.

    Idolator Wink

    Owen would school him good, Dan never met him.

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    Yet it is the emptiness at its hub which allows it to function.
    A bowl is molded from clay,
    Yet it is the hollow center which allows it to be used.
    A house is structured from timber and stone
    Yet it is the empty space within which affords it its value.
    Therefore, although prescence provides property,
    Empty space affords utility.

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    Post by GrandCru Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:50 pm

    Aaron wrote:

    There is a sucker born every minute, that’s just the sad truth of the world we live in, not much you can do to change it, but you are free to have fun trying if that’s really your calling in life I guess.


    I mean, as if I needed anything else to make the case that Aaron is BS artist (a terrible one at that)

    Issuing wisdom mixed with misdirection is still dishonest work.

    Forever pedaling, like a clown on a unicycle.
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    Post by SurfBum Sun Jan 20, 2019 2:23 pm

    You can't make other people not put their money into whatever it is they feel to put their money into.

    You can't make other people be anything other than what they are in this moment now.

    People can only change themselves and teach themselves.

    We can lead by word and example but in the end it is up to each individual to learn or not to learn for themselves.

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    Post by dan Sun Jan 20, 2019 2:25 pm

    I think everyone would agree that we should be grouped amongst the social type of animals.

    We are social for all the mundane aspects of life.  But, then, when we get to the other side, society is supposed to break down, according to the mystic/pantheists.  

    Going back to the Source, we are a very lonely crowd.  It’s suddenly everyone for themselves.  This is a rather strong distinction between the two realms....... almost a duality.  

    I’m not a dualist.  Is it not odd that a monistic worldview would lead to such a dichotomy.  

    A fundamental feature of the BPW is to maximize its continuity, throughout the singular, Ouroboric circuit.  

    The Disclosure/Revelation event that we are about to witness will be the biggest discontinuity for the entire circuit, and this discontinuity will be almost entirely psychological.  

    It will be a gestalt switch, on a global scale. That is just the definition of the MoAPS, mother of all paradigm shifts.



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    Post by SurfBum Sun Jan 20, 2019 2:42 pm

    You live you learn

    We can change the world and we will, but all we have to do is act natural and go with the flow.

    We have to have the truth.

    Once we have the truth there will no longer be suckers born, all will be one with source and have eternal rest.

    Thanks for pointing out my confusion GC and Dan.

    Yes, as the prophetic tradition has promised us the gestalt switch has to be on a global scale.

    The MoAPS will be an extraordinary event, one that will change the world completely and usher in eternal rest for all.


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    Post by dan Sun Jan 20, 2019 3:02 pm

    Aaron,

    Yes, please let us act naturally.  Please don’t make us become islands, all unto ourselves.  That would be unnatural.  

    The whole point of the Millennium is to provide for a smooth transition between here and Eternity.  


    GC,

    And please let’s try to be gentle, when it is at all possible.  

    I know that I do sometimes speak gruffly with a certain goat, but we do go way back.  


    7:10.......

    Aaron,

    I would suggest that the Millennium is more just for us to unwind.   In particular for us to unwind our very great footprint that we have set upon the Earth.  

    Let’s admit, that we could use a bit of clean up, as we transition from Omega back to Alpha.


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    Post by SurfBum Sun Jan 20, 2019 3:03 pm

    Thank you Dan.
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    Post by Cuan Scott Sun Jan 20, 2019 4:31 pm

    Agape all around would be nice Smile
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    Post by Pkisfake Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:10 pm



    Dan are you saying it's a lie that you have been encouraged by RON over 10 times to do something that has gotten you detained? We've spoken about this several times so I'm wondering why you've changed your mind?
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    Post by Pkisfake Sun Jan 20, 2019 11:22 pm



    Wow i faked a lot of emails, audio, video, reports...witnesses...
    And I must've been really amazing to hire those "crisis actors"...to portray victims. They're so believable telling me how their lives have been devasted by the scam...
    You know it takes a lot of blue-collar workers to create anything… and they are hurting the most !!!

    There's a massive trail of wreckage, poverty, shattered dreams of helping humanity, shame, tears...and heartbreak.

    ...and there are even some cool vids for the sofa critics!

    ... and much more coming soon!

    #whiteOrchid


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    Post by U Sun Jan 20, 2019 11:30 pm

    You go way back with Smelly eh, do ya Dan?

    Before OMF way back perhaps?

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    Post by U Sun Jan 20, 2019 11:57 pm

    smelly wrote:I’m pretty sure at this point, Dan and crew are trolling us.

    Bwahaha oh you don't say!!!!!!???
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    Post by Pkisfake Mon Jan 21, 2019 12:04 am

    & Doug...
    I applaud anyone fights for animals…
    Or victims...

    The Princess is spectacular. Brilliant, charming, amazing mom & VALIANT wife... no doubt.... plus she's "Spicey!"...i thoroughly respect her as a HUMAN.
    ...but Ron... is Ron.  I wanted to respect  and initially admired because I heard he had the courage to stand up over weapons of mass distruction. BUT NOW I base my opinion on things I've witnessed, and two things to me stand out prominently as morally WRONG &  likely illegal.

    1) likely without oversight,  if not intentionally avoiding it, knowingly supported, aided & coordinated a fraudulent enterprise that REALLY hurt  patriotic Americans that really wanted to help their country, humanity & the future....

    .....plus As an agent of USA , the  "Toying, manipulating & teasing" with humans...many of those could be considered "colorful, disadvantaged or the people with mental illness that these topics attract"

    But you guys here don't understand that I am just funneling info to YOU... several victims are on the warpath ...  Bob Kiviat and the others have information places that you guys are not soon… And several others are adjusting their legal strategies ...  and the investigation is on

    We will see what the scales of justice have to say and time… This is not my mission I am doing other things I don't waste my time on the stuff anymore… And I won't be in the future I hate the rat hole… But if I find information or it finds me… I have a moral responsibility to do something about it.

    BACK TO THE RABBITHOLE!

    (Poof!)
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    Post by U Mon Jan 21, 2019 12:09 am

    I swear we didn't plan this! Believe it or not! That timing is impeccable Buddy, bwahahaha!!!!!

    https://youtu.be/ofkzsu8dok8

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    Post by U Mon Jan 21, 2019 12:42 am

    smelly wrote:
    GSB/SSR wrote:"You are all indulging the tonal without limit."  ... Nagual

    Damn, ok then.

    Good fucking reference.

    “These terms denote two “parallel” worlds that comprise the universe — the world of material objects (tonal) and the non-material world (nagual).


    https://youtu.be/m4NWOyPp1yg
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    Post by dan Mon Jan 21, 2019 6:11 am

    Vengeance is mine, saith the PK.

    But PK’s only problem is that he is only going after the very small potatoes.

    There are much bigger potatoes on the other side of that bridge.

    How about the potato that was Las Vegas? There you have the mother all poison pills. Anything else will hardly measure up.



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    Post by SurfBum Mon Jan 21, 2019 6:18 am

    Aaron wrote:
    Pkisfake wrote:If you support Joe you are supporting a scam thats really hurting REAL families...you are knowingly supporting "a criminal enterprise" ...



    Relax Mr. Savior.

    Who died and made you the scam police?

    Too much time spent working for that TV show Gotham perhaps.

    We have a Batman wannabe here.

    Don’t worry, it will all work out in the end.

    Hopefully any fool who lost money investing in anti-gravity hocus pocus learned a valuable lesson.

    And who knows, maybe he will get his rattling cage flying some day and all those dumb shmucks who gave him money will make out rich in the end after all.

    There is a sucker born every minute, that’s just the sad truth of the world we live in, not much you can do to change it, but you are free to have fun trying if that’s really your calling in life I guess.

    I’m rambling a lot this morning....

    Back to the underground...


    I upset our friend AP with my insensitive words and he let me know.

    I apologise AP.

    I was wrong to talk about those who have been hurt financially by Joe in the manner I spoke. I was in a sour mood and I apologise.

    Reading my post today I see I was lacking in empathy and compassion. Thank you for holding me accountable to my higher self.
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    Post by dan Mon Jan 21, 2019 6:49 am

    Vengeance is mine, saith PK.

    PK is mine, saith the Lord.

    You go right ahead, PK....... make our day.  We’ve been waiting all these years to finally get Ron and his plethora of poison pills on the witness stand.  

    PK doesn’t yet understand the can of worms he asking to have put on the witness stand.

    Ron knows exactly where every skeleton is buried.  It all goes right back to 9/11, PK.  Why don’t we just start there?  

    Unless you’re ready to tackle 9/11......... you are going on a fishing expedition........ you’re going fishing for minnows in a shark tank...... a veritable Pandora’s box.  

    Ron is licensed to take out anyone except the President.  That is why he has me on board........ go figure.  

    I think we may finally have found our biggest fool....... our David, finally willing to step into the lions’ den.  Folks are already wringing their hands with glee.


    1:20........

    And, yes, PK, I support both Ron and Joe....... they are moving Disclosure forward, one baby step at a time.

    You would like to swallow the whole Disclosure pie in one gulp...... Eschaton and all.

    Maybe your beak can hold more than your belly can.



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    Post by @awestruckt Mon Jan 21, 2019 8:46 am

    PK: for it to be a fraud and a scam, show us some indication that they know the device does not and never will work. Otherwise all we see is folks frustrated at the pace of progress and anxious to get their payout, which is understandable but no different than any biotech startup, etc etc

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