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Who's Disclosure is Disclosure?

Sun Apr 14, 2019 2:16 am by Cyrellys

The narrative war is in full swing. When there's a 100 different competing narratives, how is it possible to discern a disclosure?

Is it akin to which truth is Truth?




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Post by dan Fri Jun 15, 2018 7:25 am

First topic message reminder :

(‘first topic message reminder.......’)

Once again, I attempt to bring the conversation back to Personalism......

Disclosure is simply going to underscore the infinite worth and potential of every sapient creature, ie, person.  Anything other than that is simply false.
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(Please keep in mind the links given in the fifth post on this thread......

https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t313-three-in-one )



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Post by AtomicBrando Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:25 pm

whoknows wrote:
Ab wrote:Language is lying by fixed convention.

Using metaphor is just creative lying.

You sure do talk out loud to your self much of the time it seems.

I play with it to show it is just a play thing and not to be taken seriously.

I play with abstractions and invite you to do the same, but most of you are nasty selfish rational muppets who will have none of our nonsense.

Too bad, you will miss it all that way.

So not many play, but the ones who see this play with it.

You are mostly still living for abstractions.

I agree with what Nietzsche suggests, that our purest contact with nature lies in breaking free from the trap of language and standing in absolute attentive presence with the actuality of what is before us — beyond classification, beyond description, beyond constriction into concept.

Until one has stood stripped like the above decribes, they are still trapped deceiving themselves about what they know and can know, after realization found in that naked place, we are still trapped, but with a wink and a smile.

That’s my experience and all I can share.

It has no meaning for anyone but me and I am only speaking to my Self clearly.


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Post by whoknows Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:34 pm

Dan wrote: back to pyramids, pristine nature..... the whole nine yards.

So why not the 3D quasicrystal of Quantum Gravity Research group?
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Post by PerplexedPuppy Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:39 pm

Atomic is having fun playing with snakes. He plays with abstractions, but still living for them in his own way.

The Dude bowls in a league. Much more fun he thinks.
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Post by AtomicBrando Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:40 pm

QGR is a sham.

We are this.

Snakes and all.


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Post by ParanoidFactoid Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:41 pm

whoknows wrote:
Dan wrote: back to pyramids, pristine nature..... the whole nine yards.

So why not the 3D quasicrystal of Quantum Gravity Research group?

An interesting avenue of study would be multidimensional aperiodic structures and geometries.
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Post by AtomicBrando Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:43 pm

If you have not become a Geometer yourself and wrestled with the geometries, you have no idea what it means for you, fun to play with.
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Post by dan Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:46 pm

wk,

If you can point to the link between quasicrystals and persons, I’m all ears.

Otherwise, wk, I’ll invite to start your own thread.

Ok, then, point us to the link between quasicrystals and love.  I’m sure there must be one, I’m just not that clever.

And please tell us, wk, the nature of love.


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Post by whoknows Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:47 pm

Ack wrote:Atomic is having fun playing with snakes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzGHOucTxY8&list=FLnbwInVpEKkXFC3UuEsCZHA&t=0s&index=176
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Post by whoknows Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:50 pm

Dan wrote:If you can point to the link between quasicrystals and persons, I’m all ears.

Could it be the plain/stage where this and all the rest of the plays take place?

Do you know the nature of Love, Dan?
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Post by painterdoug Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:54 pm

i have often wondered for a long time here why certain people after declaring certain conclusions, just don't pack up their bags and head for higher ground?

since time began , all the great thinkers, philosophers etc, who have strived to help the people walking this earth, needed to convey some, if not the most of their messages thru language. WORDS!

we are stuck with the frailties and conundrums of language. lets accept it.

with that, why don't we all just accept that everything, every thought, feeling, impulse that precedes language is lie. OK?

now we can live with it, and get on with doing our best to make a better world .



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Post by ParanoidFactoid Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:57 pm

dan wrote:wk,

If you can point to the link between quasicrystals and persons, I’m all ears.  

Quasicrystals are a completely new discovery. Wilczek ought to win a second Nobel for that. What they have to do with any of this stuff is entirely speculative. But it's a whole new avenue of exploration. If there are additional dimensions to space, aperiodicity beyond three dimensions might be relevant. Or at least interesting.

Totally uncharted territory Dan.
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Post by AtomicBrando Thu Jul 05, 2018 2:02 pm

Dalí sketch says it all...no Wink

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Post by whoknows Thu Jul 05, 2018 2:02 pm

Peace and Love to you all!

I'll Be Back! tomorrow.

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Post by AtomicBrando Thu Jul 05, 2018 2:06 pm

You have to strip yourself of language naked before you can play with them.

This is a demonstration.

You don’t know where the energy is going doug.

Seeing language for the lie it is leads one away from wanting anything better.

You see and accept this now is the best.

Perhaps you are still on that journey doug, I don’t care.

I’ll speak my heart as it flows.

You can celebrate it by doing the same or STFU a coward Wink

Muah.

It’s fun either way.


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Post by painterdoug Thu Jul 05, 2018 2:06 pm

A BRANDO

love Dali/ supremely talented showman of the highest order/



DAN

quasicrystals ??   bring it on   love to learn about it


HEY ATOMIC/ your beginning to sound like the new smelly goat !! .

are you sure your not the same guys???? lol


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Post by AtomicBrando Thu Jul 05, 2018 2:10 pm

“The drive toward the formation of metaphors is the fundamental human drive, which one cannot for a single instant dispense with in thought, for one would thereby dispense with man himself.”

—Nietzsche

I’ve been channeling Nietzsche today, thanks for playing.

He is an interesting muppet.
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Post by AtomicBrando Thu Jul 05, 2018 2:17 pm

Doug, Smelly said as I was writing to tell the little sensitive bitch to STFU, but I filtered it for you Wink
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Post by AtomicBrando Thu Jul 05, 2018 2:32 pm

Thank you OMF for helping me find serenity.

“Serenity therefore begins with pessimism. We must learn to disappoint ourselves at leisure before the world ever has a chance to slap us by surprise at a time of its own choosing. The angry must learn to check their fury via a systematic, patient surrender of their more fervent hopes. They need to be carefully inducted to the darkest realities of life, to the stupidities of others, to the ineluctable failings of technology, to the necessary flaws of infrastructure. They should start each day with a short yet thorough premeditation on the many humiliations and insults to which the coming hours risk subsequently subjecting them.

One of the goals of civilisation is to instruct us in how to be sad rather than angry. Sadness may not sound very appealing.”

You make me very sad Wink
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Post by dan Thu Jul 05, 2018 2:34 pm

PF,

Quasicrystals are uncharted territory..........?

Yes, persons seem much too mundane for ufologists.  

But do consider where quasicrystals are coming from.  I’m going after the Source.  Everything else is small potatoes.  No?

How can any mortal be so presumptuous to go after the Source?  All you have to be is a little bit gnostic.  That is my only license to play the game.  
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I’m still attempting to get a handle on Dreamtime........

I have a quasi contradiction between dreamtime and the BPWH......

The most obvious part of the problem is how to connect dream time with deep time

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Post by AtomicBrando Thu Jul 05, 2018 3:59 pm

Dan, have you accepted Dreamtime has no purpose per se?

It can have meaning for the person, but the play is the play.

The screen it all appears on can come into focus.

Do you see it?

Dualistic thinking masks the screen.

This is this happening.

Beware anyone with purpose, they serve it alonez.

I’m here playing, are you?
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Post by mion Thu Jul 05, 2018 5:23 pm

Muppets on a stick:

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Post by PerplexedPuppy Thu Jul 05, 2018 5:33 pm

dan wrote:
The most obvious part of the problem is how to connect dream time with deep time

Maybe dream time is the cure to deep time and deep time is the cure to dream time.

Maybe they are just two parts of one whole and are actually the same thing. Yin and Yang.

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