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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Fri Jun 15, 2018 7:25 am

    First topic message reminder :

    (‘first topic message reminder.......’)

    Once again, I attempt to bring the conversation back to Personalism......

    Disclosure is simply going to underscore the infinite worth and potential of every sapient creature, ie, person.  Anything other than that is simply false.
    ...........


    (Please keep in mind the links given in the fifth post on this thread......

    https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t313-three-in-one )



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    Post by AtomicBrando Sat Jun 30, 2018 4:56 pm

    All my words are monkey mind chatter and I am mad as a hatter.

    Jack Sarfatti is a major dick btw, if you don’t know him.

    We are drinking margaritas, eating guacamole and smoking a joint in the garden.

    I’m making art. It’s a good day. What is a mission?

    About 95% of the time I write on OMF I am hella high.

    I love it when muppets think they know shit.

    Dan, relax into it baby.

    None of you are having as much fun as me right now.

    Have fun and straight on mofos.
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    Post by mion Sat Jun 30, 2018 5:04 pm

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    Post by Course Catalog Sat Jun 30, 2018 5:13 pm

    AB - Enjoy your weed, guacamole and hippie tunes. I think I prefer PF's record collection though. Closer to mine.

    Dan - Too chicken to call. No pun intended. Would consider walking through an interdimensional gateway though.

    I guess Alex Jones is getting the same oblique briefings that Dan is.

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    Post by AtomicBrando Sat Jun 30, 2018 5:14 pm

    CC, who cares what you prefer Wink

    You can try something new each day and even try on another’s shoes.

    Let’s do away with tribalism first.

    To each his own mofo.

    I and many others have shown you how to open your own portals.

    You have your own personal one.

    Shhhhhhhhh.....

    I’m huntin Wabbitz.

    Alex Jones is pure Wetiko virus.

    You are all infected with Wetiko and the Beatles are one cure.

    Get back...



    It lives in your thoughts.

    Let them flow through you like wind.

    Then you get some portal time.

    Cannibals will have no fun.

    You never been through a portal until you been through the flower pot garden beatle portal.

    Fuck the lake, deceivers, you snakes of mind.

    Come through ME, you can pass right through ME and not see ME.



    What obscures the Way?

    Only YOU!



    Oh yah oh yah whoknows...

    Go smell a flower and relax into it baby.
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    Post by dan Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:21 pm

    I should mention Amit Goswami.  I met with him once back here.  

    He had a site called SWC, Science within Consciousness.  But he was not a personalist, just a straight panpsychist.  He was a quantum physicist, and friend of Henry Stapp’s.

    Like every other physicist, he had no clue about the small, personal world.

    So near.... yet so far.  

    Like other brilliant folks, he has a great idea, but then extrapolates it to infinity.  He was unable to temper it.  

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    Post by Z Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:23 pm

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    Post by dan Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:43 pm

    And AP still doesn’t have a clue......... and he doesn’t understand the word ‘preempt’, evidently.  

    He has to extrapolate to infinity.  It’s a veritable syndrome..... very difficult to see the cosmic gestalt for what it is...... mere cosmetics.  He even calls himself a messianic.  The messiah could hit over the head, and he would say ‘bless you’, and keep right on walking.  In his own inimitable fashion, smelly has clue, bless his heart.  But smelly plucks out his left eye because it offends him.... ptsd.  Most of us have it, ptsd, or will have it, soon enough.  I guess I don’t look enough like an EMP pulse.  But I am an emergency medical physician.... comforter.  Or am I an ambulance chaser?  That might  be more accurate.  I’ve been chasing this ambulance since 1991.... it keeps me in shape. This particular ‘accident’ has been a long time in preparation. Most folks won’t even notice.... bless their hearts.


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    Post by ParanoidFactoid Sun Jul 01, 2018 2:44 am

    AtomicBrando wrote:

    We are loud and proud.


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    Post by ParanoidFactoid Sun Jul 01, 2018 6:34 am

    The 4th of July is a strange date to choose for a public display. Very American. You won't find anywhere else in the world where people celebrate it. Since this would supposedly be a global event, why not choose a date of global significance? Like New Years.
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    Post by dan Sun Jul 01, 2018 7:31 am

    PF,

    My humble speculation is that the US has been groomed to be the Discloser nation, from the git go.  

    In fact, Factoid, the global geography was designed with this eventuality in mind.  The mission of Christopher Columbus was a long time in planning, and, if you understand that time is an illusion, that is a gross understatement.  

    Human history was designed even more carefully than the physical world...... one part in 10^500 precision.  Every hair on our heads is numbered.  Every birth, every death has been planned from Eternity.  Live and learn.  

    Mind you, Factoid, the possibility of a public event on the Fourth was only intended as a threat to the PtB, to persuade them to facilitate this, here, WoM/MoAPS.  That’s all.

    Come Monday, I’ll be looking for the public statement from Kevin.  If it’s not out by Wednesday, all bets are off.  Will I have to eat my hat..... again, Lord....... munch, munch.....

    This, here, WoM/MoAPS is the global event you’ve been looking for, all these years.  The hopes and fears of all the years...... Rise and shine, sports fans.  Your answers are blowing in the wind.  

    The PtB are dragging their feet like it was nobody’s business.  News flash, it’s everybody’s business.  

    This, Factoid, is the best possible Disclosure of the best possible Eschaton, which, of course, as Kashmir says, is no Eschaton.  

    There will, instead, be an entire eschatology built around our virtual, wake up Eschaton.  Want to see the Rapture.......?  Just wander on down to your local portal outlet.  That’s where the action will be, sports fans.  

    Or you can join smelly out in his garden smoking pot..... same difference.  

    You wanted shock and awe to impress your neighbors.....?

    You wanted more problems to solve....?  Be careful what you wish for, friends.  I know a Princess who can help you dig up a few problems.  


    11:30...........

    I had a little consultation with Bill L the other day.......

    If you think smelly gives me hard time, you’ve seen nothing......

    But, on the second time around, I might have persuaded Bill to put himself in God’s shoes.....   God is not coming back to convict us, he’s coming back to trick us.  He’s coming back to put us in our place, and this is especially true of the PtB, of course.  

    God doesn’t cotton to bullies.  Donald is a bully.  Well, he’s more like a bull in a china shop.  But he’s our bull in our shop.  He’s having fun while his daddy’s away.  You go, donald.....


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    Post by Course Catalog Sun Jul 01, 2018 9:21 am

    All we have lately is revenge fantasies. Q Anon tells right wingers to sit tight until Hillary and Barack are arrested. The left waits for Mueller indictments. The evangelicals hope Jesus will be back soon to sort things out. Silicon Valley pins their hopes on new AI gods. And the UFO brigade watch the skies for the good aliens/benevolent ultraterrestials who will give us free energy and takes us off this dying planet and smite the wicked. Each of these scenarios tell us to quietly and passively wait for a savior. I would say the CIA's job - the infantilization of the citizen - is pretty much done.
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    Post by ParanoidFactoid Sun Jul 01, 2018 9:49 am

    Course Catalog wrote:All we have lately is revenge fantasies. Q Anon tells right wingers to sit tight until Hillary and Barack are arrested. The left waits for Mueller indictments. The evangelicals hope Jesus will be back soon to sort things out. Silicon Valley pins their hopes on new AI gods. And the UFO brigade watch the skies for the good aliens/benevolent ultraterrestials who will give us free energy and takes us off this dying planet and smite the wicked. Each of these scenarios tell us to quietly and passively wait for a savior. I would say the CIA's job - the infantilization of the citizen - is pretty much done.

    I like you.
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    Post by ParanoidFactoid Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:13 am

    dan wrote:PF,

    My humble speculation is that the US has been groomed to be the Discloser nation, from the git go.  

    In fact, Factoid, the global geography was designed with this eventuality in mind.  The mission of Christopher Columbus was a long time in planning, and, if you understand that time is an illusion, that is a gross understatement.  

    Human history was designed even more carefully than the physical world...... one part in 10^500 precision.  Every hair on our heads is numbered.  Every birth, every death has been planned from Eternity.  Live and learn.


    It would help if this statement was more than just assertions. It also sounds a whole lot like US Manifest Destiny. Whereas, an event on the 4th would clearly be directed at the US population. Which makes me very suspicious of a staged event and not the real deal.

    As for Trump. Well, you know what I think of a leader who tears nursing infants from their mothers and locks up toddlers into indefinite detention camps. That's not being a mere bully. If ET really is aligned with that, and the US is their chosen venue, I'd be very concerned for the future of humanity.

    Real V stuff there.
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    Post by AtomicBrando Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:14 am

    Are you here on Earth suffering from confirmation bias, trying to justify your beliefs?

    Or are you walking in the world truly open to whatever comes, with mind as servant?

    I will take the mask off, but only for a second, and say knowledge needs confirmation, and until then nothing is clearly settled.

    So settle it.

    Why not settle it right now?

    How do you know what you call Heaven is not Human and what you call Human is not Heaven?

    I like to say now I am enjoying my little slice of Heaven and Hell on Earth right now.

    It is always here.

    It is always now.

    Happy 4th.
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    Post by ParanoidFactoid Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:18 am

    AtomicBrando wrote:

    How do you know what you call Heaven is not Human and what you call Human is not Heaven?


    The question is mere semantics. How does what we call it change what it is?
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    Post by AtomicBrando Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:20 am

    Snap, Dan finally called AP on his delusional shiitake mushrooms.

    I know AP is on his own trip, seriously that dude is tripping balls.

    Well said CC.

    PF, um, good paranoia.

    As always, Dan is abstracting and not sharing direct experience.

    Direct experience is here now and doesn’t leave you talking like Dan, bless his chicken little heart.
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    Post by AtomicBrando Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:22 am

    ParanoidFactoid wrote:
    AtomicBrando wrote:

    How do you know what you call Heaven is not Human and what you call Human is not Heaven?


    The question is mere semantics. How does what we call it change what it is?

    It’s an equation that equals in zero, here, now.

    Here there are no questions, you are following your snake thought forms, you won’t understand or receive this, no worries.

    I can’t explain anything to you.

    And you always miss the point and take it off into never never land.

    You are a lost muppet.
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    Post by ParanoidFactoid Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:41 am

    AtomicBrando wrote:
    ParanoidFactoid wrote:
    AtomicBrando wrote:

    How do you know what you call Heaven is not Human and what you call Human is not Heaven?


    The question is mere semantics. How does what we call it change what it is?

    It’s an equation that equals in zero, here, now.

    Here there are no questions, you are following your snake thought forms, you won’t understand or receive this, no worries.

    I can’t explain anything to you.

    And you always miss the point and take it off into never never land.

    You are a lost muppet.

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    Post by AtomicBrando Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:46 am

    PF, you might have the slightest chance...maybe...possibly.

    I wish you a still mind, long enough to settle things.

    Dan knows little of Awareness and what mask play and dance is.

    He isn’t a jester.

    I am the bravest jester in the court, the only one who would come here, not too bright though.

    When fighting snakes it’s best to be almost moronic.

    They become very confused as you all have.

    But I am also a great snake charmer.

    If I have made you laugh at least once, I have you.

    You are mine.

    But I will let you go.

    I love you all unconditionally.

    I have no choice in that, all that is here is love.

    When someone doesn’t like someone else, it is entirely their own walls they use to keep separate.

    No thing could possibly be separated from any thing else.

    Dan is suffering badly from confirmation bias.

    It’s all the snakes he has let into his head.

    I’m here helping him.

    He has no idea really what the game here is.

    It should give him cheer the Cosmos loves him enough to send it’s greatest Fool.

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    Haha, you have no idea what my game is.

    I love clueless muppets.

    Have fun y’all.
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    Post by ParanoidFactoid Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:06 pm

    AtomicBrando wrote:

    I wish you a still mind, long enough to settle things.


    I have a toddler. There won't be no still mind in my life for quite some time.

    lol

    Some of the birds know my deal. I've had PSI experiences on and off since childhood. And I saw a flying saucer once. Beyond that, I don't know. But I do know I don't trust intelligences I've come across out of my body. And I don't think UFOs are all benign.

    Humanity must tread carefully. This situation is dangerous.
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    Post by painterdoug Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:23 pm

    Course Catalog wrote:
    All we have lately is revenge fantasies. Q Anon tells right wingers to sit tight until Hillary and Barack are arrested. The left waits for Mueller indictments. The evangelicals hope Jesus will be back soon to sort things out. Silicon Valley pins their hopes on new AI gods. And the UFO brigade watch the skies for the good aliens/benevolent ultraterrestials who will give us free energy and takes us off this dying planet and smite the wicked. Each of these scenarios tell us to quietly and passively wait for a savior. I would say the CIA's job - the infantilization of the citizen - is pretty much done.

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    CC/
    this is why I have pretty much buttoned up as of recent. I'm going on " hoeing" my garden.

    btw glad alex jones drew it out for we dyslexics . now i get it.

    should the 4th come and the world shakes, we have verification of personnel here. should it pass with a few firecrackers as all others, well we have another kind of verification.

    either way, looks like we have made it this far/ cheers all
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    Post by jofo Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:46 pm

    Course Catalog wrote:All we have lately is revenge fantasies. Q Anon tells right wingers to sit tight until Hillary and Barack are arrested. The left waits for Mueller indictments. The evangelicals hope Jesus will be back soon to sort things out. Silicon Valley pins their hopes on new AI gods. And the UFO brigade watch the skies for the good aliens/benevolent ultraterrestials who will give us free energy and takes us off this dying planet and smite the wicked. Each of these scenarios tell us to quietly and passively wait for a savior. I would say the CIA's job - the infantilization of the citizen - is pretty much done.

    cc, that about sums it up...dont wait to be saved, save your-self

    to be honest, we just want interesting problems to work on here in silicon valley and teaching machines to do stuff humans shouldn't seems like a reasonable thing to do.  it'll give y'all more time to search for aliens, or portals, or salvation or whatever.

    the firmage story about the spinny-thing at the lake, that sounds like fun, maybe its even got a purpose or a use that someone cares about.  though its probably a portal to more questions, don't you think?

    ask someone what the purpose of a "portal" is and you'll get crickets.  its purely notional, there is no physical embodiment of such a thing, it is manifest within one's mind, which is why you can find them everywhere or anywhere (or nowhere if your a smelly goat)

    perhaps i'm wrong, and on 7/4 someone will disclose something we don't already know, but i doubt it
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    Post by AtomicBrando Sun Jul 01, 2018 1:41 pm

    Every animal has exactly enough brains to tan its own hide, including Homo Sapiens Muppetus.
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    Post by AtomicBrando Sun Jul 01, 2018 1:45 pm

    ParanoidFactoid wrote:
    AtomicBrando wrote:

    I wish you a still mind, long enough to settle things.


    I have a toddler. There won't be no still mind in my life for quite some time.

    lol

    Some of the birds know my deal. I've had PSI experiences on and off since childhood. And I saw a flying saucer once. Beyond that, I don't know. But I do know I don't trust intelligences I've come across out of my body. And I don't think UFOs are all benign.

    Humanity must tread carefully. This situation is dangerous.

    Nothing is dangerous to anyone...really...wink.

    We can only settle it for ourselves and only we know if we have.

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