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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Fri Jun 15, 2018 7:25 am

    First topic message reminder :

    (‘first topic message reminder.......’)

    Once again, I attempt to bring the conversation back to Personalism......

    Disclosure is simply going to underscore the infinite worth and potential of every sapient creature, ie, person.  Anything other than that is simply false.
    ...........


    (Please keep in mind the links given in the fifth post on this thread......

    https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t313-three-in-one )



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    Post by whoknows Tue Jun 26, 2018 10:24 am

    Dan wrote:We have resonance absorption and resonance scattering, which can be either classical or quantum. Why is the grass green and the sky blue, for instance? How do we make music?

    Can't stop thinking about Mandelbrot sets of late and the beauty of fractals.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1y44HOgFprc&index=483&list=FLnbwInVpEKkXFC3UuEsCZHA
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    Post by AtomicBrando Tue Jun 26, 2018 10:34 am

    All from simple repeating patterns.

    Dan and Gary are lost in fractals.

    I’m waiting for you Dan...
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    Post by whoknows Tue Jun 26, 2018 10:42 am

    Ab wrote:Dan and Gary are lost in fractals.

    Just wondering who's Gary? I've heard the name before but finding it hard to connect to a screen name.

    And. One it would be hard to get lost in fractals and two, if you could it would be better, less boring than nothing.
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    Post by AtomicBrando Tue Jun 26, 2018 10:49 am

    Gary is another loony bird.

    It’s soooooo easy to get lost.

    That’s the fun.

    This is ONLY fun, don’t take any of it too seriously.

    It will be over soon enough.

    I shall meet you all here or at Death where all questions, cares and opinions shall be resolved Wink
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    Post by whoknows Tue Jun 26, 2018 11:05 am

    Ab wrote:I shall meet you all here or at Death where all questions, cares and opinions shall be resolved Wink

    If I didn't already realize what we all portent, I would say that statement is what some would call delusions of godhood. Here's a clue for you Ab, we are all uniquely that. Sorry if you happen to find that disappointing.
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    Post by AtomicBrando Tue Jun 26, 2018 11:42 am

    Whoknows, as always, you missed it.

    No one knows and all will be silenced at death, so enjoy yourself.

    I only pretend to be God silly.

    You remember how to pretend don’t you?

    You are doing it right now.

    I am disappointed at nothing.

    I have everything here now.

    I can wait my turn for death.

    I saw a being covered in eyes...

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    Post by whoknows Tue Jun 26, 2018 11:50 am

    Ab wrote:Whoknows, as always, you missed it.

    LOL I'm glad I missed it again. But then, we all are even you.

    BTW the answer to everything is 42 right?
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    Post by AtomicBrando Tue Jun 26, 2018 12:01 pm

    No, 93.

    Agape love is all that is real.

    Whatever that is, I am finding more and more clues.

    How can such a simple thing as Zero, end up with all of this?

    It is a wonder.

    Who cares?

    The point is to enjoy it.

    Some of us are having one hell of a life.

    We wish that for everyone.

    We can end our suffering, that I know from experience.

    But I seem to like to suffer and often inflict the old pattern and beatings on myself.

    When I’m bored I like to have fun with muppets.

    My God, it’s not full of stars...it’s full of EYEZ!!!
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    Post by whoknows Tue Jun 26, 2018 12:11 pm

    Hmmm Can you tell me how that makes you feel Mr. Ab?
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    Post by AtomicBrando Tue Jun 26, 2018 12:45 pm

    wonder
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    Post by whoknows Tue Jun 26, 2018 12:54 pm

    Well, that is something isn't it. Definitely a good thing to feel.
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    Post by Cheguevoblin Tue Jun 26, 2018 2:31 pm

    AP,

    I don’t disagree with you that one person can make a big difference in the world. I only see how it has already been worked out and how more often than not humans have a tendency to want to be saviors of the world before they save their own homes first.
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    Post by Cheguevoblin Tue Jun 26, 2018 3:04 pm

    Time to go off grid. The blog is in the fog and there is nothing here to see. All will be taken care of with the purest form of gravity. I come and go as I please but feel now moved to let the Others flow within and step back and watch and see what their plans are moving forward in this reality.
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    Post by @awestruckt Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:11 pm

    Dan, any thoughts on how Trump's Space Force might relate to Disclosure? Might it be related?
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    Post by dan Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:29 pm

    Nunia,  

    Yes, I see the Space Force initiative as being parallel with the TTSA initiative.  Both were inaugurated last December, for instance.  

    Area 51 has had a long standing portal force in connection with Dreamland.  

    See particularly the Matrix series by Val Valerian.  See also the long running Stargate series on TV.  

    The space force will create another slush fund for portals, IMHO.  

    While we’re at it, check out the very large unmarked area to the north of Otis air base on Cape Cod. It used to be designated as a joint forces site. Who knows what it is now. I received an interesting photo from there, about a year ago...... a photo of my goddaughter.


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    Post by @awestruckt Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:40 pm

    Re: the portal force you mention @ Area 51, any shades of truth to Dan Burisch's tales about the "looking glass"?
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    Post by 99 Tue Jun 26, 2018 6:06 pm

    Just got notification of a new vid from Aliyah entitled 'Kashmir's 1st Drone'. Soooooo cute!

    Ok, Aliyah's a good mother, just like I am and she loves animals and so do I. Dan can be a real ass sometimes and I'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt wrt to the most recent tussle between her and Dan. Bottom line: It takes two to tango and besides that, I've had some unusual experiences wrt both including Kashmir to just opt out and not continue with my ongoing 'monitoring'....
    over and out.
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    Post by AtomicBrando Tue Jun 26, 2018 6:51 pm

    Do what you feel you must Ack.

    Ack is a deep kid, deeper than any I met on OMF.

    It’s been fun to play and share.

    Where’s the trail to Cold Mountain?
    Cold Mountain? There’s no clear way.
    Ice, in summer, is still frozen.
    Bright sun shines through thick fog.
    You won’t get there following me.
    Your heart and mine are not the same.
    If your heart was like mine,
    You’d have made it, and be there!

    —Cold Mountain

    Ack and I don’t know what happened here on OMF exactly, but it leaves me humbled and in wonder, like everything that’s coming now, effortlessly, do not doing.

    Do not doing does not care what is going to happen or what has happened.
    Do not doing doesn’t care about your feelings.
    Do not doing doesn’t act on any belief or mind philosophy.
    Do not doing doesn’t have a goal or destination.
    Do not doing could lead you to the lowest hole or highest peak.
    Do not doing makes no judgements or distinctions.
    Do not doing is fun.
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    Post by 99 Wed Jun 27, 2018 7:55 am

    Nunia.binus wrote:Dan, any thoughts on how Trump's Space Force might relate to Disclosure?  Might it be related?

    Hope you don't mind but thought I'd add my .02 on this one that's based on some Youtube vids on this topic:

    A secret space program that's funded by black budget dollars already exists under the Air Force's (and the Navy's) jurisdiction and as Gen. Mattis stated, the creation of separate Space Force military branch is only going to create more overhead and bureaucracy.

    But does Trump know something that we don't hence why he announced his Space Force initiative? Is he an advocate of the Solar Warden hypothesis that's based on what G. McKinnon found when he hacked into NASA's hard drives? Does he have the inside scoop of information that hints that we need to be protected from something that's out there in space that would justify the formation of an entirely separate Space Force military branch?

    As Trump is the king of chaos, would the formation of such a branch result in full disclosure when they are in the process of creating it?

    Or did Trump announce this initiative to simply attract more voters from the UFO/Conspiracy community to vote for him in 2020 (though he probably will resign before that ever happens... but what about Pence?)?

    Whatever the case may be, we all know that the presidency is low on the totem pole when it comes to accessing classified information possessed by those who are really running the show. Nevertheless, it's good to know (or at least assume) that he and his cronies are keeping their eye's and ears wide open for any rumors that are floating around within the confines of the industrial/military complex that top researchers in the UFO community may not even be aware of yet.
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    Post by Z Wed Jun 27, 2018 8:20 am

    Wonderful questions 99

    1)  if we have had encounters whether peaceable or not, is it logical to assume that more craft and support craft are coming? If not already here?
    2) is it logical to assume, that the government is aware of support craft or support bases very nearby?
    3)  Are certain countries utilizing the confusion of this phenomenon to create weapons that mimic the phenomenon in order to penetrate other nations defenses ?
    4)  We have detected "anomalous communication signals" (emf detections) that hint about their
    communications ... have "we" broken their code?
    5)  is any military or private organization trying the obvious basic universe of forms of communication to establish a peaceful relationship and dialogue with these "visitors"?

    99....  One way to get answers to the unanswerable ...
    Multiple very good remote viewers blindly doing targets… Then...cull matching data...

    Wanna help???
    Or do you have a topic or questions or Target... youd like to investigate??
    Like.. homestead Air Force Base, Tonopah,  The interesting cooperative operation the US government is having with Peru, Indian Springs...the Pentagon C ring ( 3rd floor - ###35###)
    ...NORAD's lil secret....or a certain front company ( Not Bigelow) that is testing "materials" ( think Animal names- lol )...what Trump has been briefed?? ( Not by Ron!!!)....

    So many interesting questions... SO LITTLE TIME!!

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    Post by Course Catalog Wed Jun 27, 2018 8:30 am

    What will happen to all the posts here when the world runs out of fortune cookies to plagiarize

    Can we please have more Dan and less middle school journal pastings?
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    Post by 99 Wed Jun 27, 2018 8:38 am

    Good questions AP!

    Also, sure, I'll help but my own mode of communication and information gathering, at least on some level, is much more effective than remote viewing (in my case) and it includes real-time conversation with those in the unseen world. Then there's my ability to capture things by cam. I have ample material of this nature already from years and years of engaging in such activities in my personal library.

    Those methods would be a way for me to contribute to your org. AP.

    The offer is open and contact anytime via email if you're interested.
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    Post by Z Wed Jun 27, 2018 9:19 am

    I am!!!!!

    Yeaaaaay - Thanks 99!

    & I understand...each has their own methods...& i too dont really RV... the traditional way ( i only learned that this year... ive been using multiple other methods my whole life...

    Hopefully I can find your mail in the massive sea of emails I've been getting lately ...

    Much LOVE... to all
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    Post by 99 Wed Jun 27, 2018 9:25 am

    Right, we each have our own methods and thanks for acknowledging that! I'll attempt to send an email to you later today. Thanks for your reply and I'm very excited about participating in your group contact endeavor!

    Love and Light.. always!


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    Post by dan Wed Jun 27, 2018 9:27 am

    It may be that Kevin could still be a surprise guest on Grant’s show tomorrow.  John S would need to approve, however.  In any case, there will be some kind of corporate rollout by Kevin in the near future.  And John has made it clear that I will not be participating.  Back in the day, John and I would talk for hours on end about theological issues.  I wonder what he would think about the telomeres.  He is an adamant right to lifer.  In the womb, the National Guard will protect you.  Outside...... telomeres take the hindmost.  

    AP is keeping me informed about the Rama encounters network.   The first group was formed in Peru, almost a century ago.  You can see Sixto Paz explaining the different kinds of Xendra portals on YouTube.  There are affiliated groups all over the world.  This will be Kevin’s main competition.  

    There will be a very definite polarization between the ETH and the UTH subscribers, as disclosure moves forward.  

    I have gained considerable insight on this issue by speaking with Joe, who embraces the Apeiron with more than a little passion.  

    But there are aspects of the passion which I still have difficulty grasping.  Many subscribers embrace what seems to be the liberating aspects of the Copernican, wide open spaces, like....... don’t fence me in.  This is very similar to the liberating gusto felt by some existential atheists.  


    3..........

    In my conversation with Joe, I attempted to compare the Creation without to the Kingdom within.  He had very little to say about the latter.  For a space jockey, the Kingdom within is like buying a pig in the poke.

    There may be a chicken costume in my future, as I attempt to reconnect with my goddaughter. I hope that smelly would approve. It was AP’s idea...... we’d better keep our fingers crossed.



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