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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by jofo Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:21 am

    First topic message reminder :

    nice to be back to our regularly scheduled programming

    if only eric were here...i miss him, his perspective and contribution
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    Post by dan Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:56 pm

    Ackbar,

    I have reread your yesterday’s post on +0, and it is still not making sense.  

    Just tell us whether or not you believe in the truth of personhood, please.

    I have not been consulted about the proposed gotomeeting. I suggest that it deal with the ontological status of persons.

    I happen to believe in the existence of persons. I believe that the highest state of existence is personhood, and every other sort of existence derives therefrom.

    Am I wrong.....?



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    Post by Cheguevoblin Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:09 pm

    A humble curtsy for the Queen of Hearts. At your service your grace. Thank you for the opportunity to serve. Smile

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:41 pm

    I’ll not tarry long here now, but nothing is wrong Dan. You can see something else here is happening now using the eyes of IAO.

    We have all been drawn by the honey. An ancient mantra IAO, the first and last. Jesus is Iota, Yah. My view of OMF is as a bee hive with some honey hidden under paranoia.

    "The Serpent is the symbol and prototype of the Universal Savior, who redeems worlds by giving Creation the knowledge of Itself and the realization of good and evil."

    ~ Manly P. Hall

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    "The warrior of light knows the importance of intuition. In the midst of battle, he does not have time to think of the enemy's blows, and so he uses his instinct and obeys his angel."

    ~Paulo Coelho

    Art by Soufiane Idrassi

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    I have been doing battle with Angels here. I took a few heads as trophy I was here.

    I always had a dark gift. Whenever I wanted as a child to now I could create Flame daggers and swords. I can create instant pillars or fire that take you to the hive, if you embrace me only. I was kissed by bees at a young age. My uncle did it, crazy shaman made a Moonchild.

    Just a bit of why I am like this.

    I’m a Prince of Darkness, this is how it works. You must embrace the fire to combust into Phoenix.

    I eat Angels, but only to free them.

    Ignis
    Aqua
    Origo

    IAO the Great

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    Find your own keys, you can’t use anyone else’s. I have been a disruption?

    IIIIIIIII AAAAAAAAA OOOOOOOO

    Get out of the way, if you are blind, sit down until you have your Eyez.

    You can’t ban me Cy.

    Hahahahaha

    Lovely Muppets you are my Puppets


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:58 pm

    I’d say there are a number of bulls here fat for slaughter.

    What has played out on OMF was ritual sacrifice of ignorance of the Bulls, as in Spain.

    To free the bees.

    “What is not good for the swarm, is not good for the bee.”

    — Marcus Aurelius, the first socialist?

    For ignorance to persist here is only sign they aren’t ready yet Princess.

    They don’t like the heat.

    Stuffy under your collars huh, maybe get naked.

    I am only talking to the Princess now.

    Her drones are not ready yet.

    Dan has just been batted around in the middle.

    It was glorious!
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:30 pm

    With the help of my Queen, I have transmuted Fire into Blue Lightening.

    I had to pierce my heart with her blue blade and I had a cold come over me, but I did not die as I had feared I would.

    Within my hand, my Sword of the Eternal Red Flames I knew so well, became the Sword of the Eternal Blue Flame.

    That’s how it’s done.

    Want one, find your eyes and you can wield a sword of fire against your angels and the sword of the blue flame against your Daimons.



    My bee dance is complete, it contains the BPW and much much more.

    **takes a bow**

    Do this...(or the physical spiritual equivalent)

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    To do this...

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    Post by Cheguevoblin Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:48 pm

    Dan, I believe in personhood, a headless personhood. (See Headless.org)

    I believe that my personhood encompasses all persons, animals, and nature into One eternal person.

    What does that have to do with the BPW in your opinion?
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:59 pm

    I don’t know how long I will be allowed here before the Muppets shut me down, but you have it within yourself to complete the work Ack. This isn’t my honey pot here, it’s Hers.

    I took the headless way of Zen myself.

    “The difference between Harding's headless way & Advaita, Vedanta, or Zen Buddhism, & so on, is that instead of trying to conceptualize or understand in theory the "atman" or the "no-mind" or "emptiness", etc., & meditating & cogitating on it for years & years in hopes of somehow grasping it or magically inducing realization, one just simply looks. One by-passes the thought patterns, the cultural conditioning, the religious dogma, & other such verbiage, & one simply sees without preconceived ideas. Drop the rhetoric & simply look for yourself.”

    This can be helped with psychedelics. It’s done quickly with focus either way.

    I’m feeling the answers are not here Ack for you.

    They are within yourself and I can see the Nous coming on you.

    An exciting time for you.

    Burn brother, burn red, then blue and with some faith, you might even become an Immortal, but that happens by accident, if at all, which is why the dogmatic can’t find Nous so obsessed with Heaven and Hell.

    It’s a sickness of the Angels and Daimons and why they serve Humanity.

    You serve no one, but you receive Nous/Light if the conditions are right with enough heat, light and water.

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    I suspect much has still been obscured here on OMF. This is actually a Camera Obscura here.

    It’s a feeder to another level.

    I wonder what happens next.



    Gnosis is trust above reason and rationality. Did Hamlet insist he was Shakespeare? Hamlet was a creation of finite mind, while creation is authored by Infinite Mind.

    If any argue with this, well, you know what you need to know about small mind. It won’t yield. Those who have received Nous in life, are infinitely expanded. What we experience in life is happening in Death and in the Sky, earth, air and water. What we fail to discover in life, is impossible to discover after. IAO is above the law of cause and effect because it exists outside of time all around us.

    Heaven is literally here now, if you can see it. If you can’t, yep, you are in Hell.

    But the BPW is not going to help you escape.

    Guess what it is?

    You are.

    Get out there on th ice and skate. Sounds like it might break, but not if you let the blue temper the red fire.

    I speak in myth, story and metaphor.

    I see Dan as a half-wise fool, while he may see me as damaged goods.

    Both are true and not true at the same time. Imagine what’s out there beyond the ice?! A land of milk and honey, bees could only dream of.

    I’ve been there.

    I brought back honey.

    Is it that distasteful to you?



    Opposition is your truest ally.

    You threw me off the board I helped build?

    Well, spirit said sidelined now, build your fire. Now breathe it red/blue into world.

    Dan has gotten more and more irritated, not letting us follow our protocol and go with the flow.

    So speak up Dan, why have you stopped the flow here?

    An announcement?!

    Do tell.

    UTs you say, portals you say.

    Well I say BEES!!!

    I have been out in the wild on the black ice scrying and eating nectar from an opposite black world.

    Dan, you only decry the wise and loving!!!

    Are you working for Jehovah, cause at this point, you are the enemy of your Self!

    I earned my way here and always have given my 100% intuitive heart AND I HAVE NO MISSION BUT TRUTH!

    Have you?

    I don’t care about the disrespect of muppets really.

    As you can see, I enjoy it, but stop playing games and get onto the Big Game, The Great Work you were born for.

    To be of All and have the All dwell in you.

    Are you all that blind?

    Hobbit isn’t, jofo isn’t, others lurk who are green.

    Osiris was Green.

    Trump is an evil Frog prince. Nasty aren’t they.

    Are they the only Green people here?

    And you would caste them out?

    Dan, you foolish stupid half-wise Muppet.

    I mean that with all my god damned red and blue and green heart.

    Let the chips fall where they may.

    I already won.

    I said my piece.

    Only on thinnest ice of the Ego can you see and hear the otherworldly beyond, overlapping us in this crystal matrix, this golden lotus blossom.

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    Post by dan Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:40 pm

    Ackbar,

    DE Harding was a Zen Buddhist.  

    Zen Buddhism does not teach personalism.  

    If you would like to understand personalism you might try googling it.  

    If you don’t like it, you probably won’t accept the BPWH.

    Personalism includes rationalism.  If you abhor reason, Ackbar, you won’t like personalism.

    In other words, headless personhood is an oxymoron, in my estimation........ sorry about that.  

    A central feature of the BPWH is the MoAPS, the mother of all paradigm shifts.  Zen does not recognize paradigms.  Reasoning is an essential aspect of any paradigm.  

    The modern paradigm is scientific materialism.  If you suppose that it’s too pervasive to fight, you could simply abjure all paradigms, as do the Zen Buddhists.

    I’d rather fight.  And I have a little help.  

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:33 am

    The highly developed consciousness dependent on reason and rationality only, disconnected from the unconscious archetypes, is in a precarious position. A true neurosis exists in the unbalanced state of promethean fire with no grounding.

    You can not cut free from the archetypes, you must meet them.

    I honestly don’t know why you insist on words.

    It’s the middle way and a valid path.

    In your eclipse and under the union of sun and moon you are a celestial.

    No words can decribe it and this is why you must stop at the word door to go into darkness. Otherwise you are half blind.

    You are a simulation of Self.

    ‘We are groot’ is close.


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    Post by dan Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:42 am

    Jesus is the Logos.  The Logos is the Word.

    Most Christians think that Logos = Bible.  

    They are wrong.  

    Scientists think that Logos = logic.  

    They are wrong, as well.

    The archetypes.......? I meet them, head on.

    You blink.


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:44 am

    Jesus is Horus and Kairos.

    He is the Son.

    You don’t know him.

    Logic can bring you to the porch.

    But then you have to go inside.

    Logic can not solve this or rationality, it is intelligible though.

    You must expand your view to see and find the key to the inner sanctum and to do that, you need virtue and light.

    Mortals are jealous of each other. Immortals/Celestials are always of One mind. And we would die for the hive any moment.

    For what is Death but a chance at a return to the sky?
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    Post by dan Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:47 am

    Jesus invented Chronos.

    You abjure Chronos.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:49 am

    I see you Mara.

    I won’t blink, but I will invite you to tea anytime.

    You never met Jesus and you certainly ain’t him...yet.

    Pretender.
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    Post by dan Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:53 am

    True. But, with a little help from the Princess, watch out.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:53 am

    Here is the Truth.

    From a Celestial even in flesh.

    From Kairos for all of you.

    Blue flames.

    “While All is in THE ALL, it is equally true that THE ALL is in ALL. To him who truly understands this truth hath come great knowledge.”

    My kindness Dan is to tell you before the world and the All in All, you need some couch time Cowboy.

    Get behind me.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:56 am

    I am a Prince of the Eternal Flame & a Friend of the Golden Soul

    I can dual wield cold and fire.

    We will meet and you will embrace me as yourself or I will take your head.

    Horus lost an Eye, you need that Head gone.

    And my knives are very sharp.

    Beast, I can only keep you at bay, only you can go headless.

    And Dan, I am taking to you from both ears, the fire dancer here has you, but the Queen also blocks you.

    Guess where you get to go to next.....

    DARKNESS

    My domain.

    Muhaha.


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    Post by dan Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:57 am

    Well, whichever one can get to the Princess first.....,
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    Last one there ain’t the smelly goat.
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    Post by Cheguevoblin Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:00 am

    I like Personalism, but I think maybe it is a necessary illusion of the 5 senses. I believe that Adam fell that Man might be and that men are that they might have joy. The fall is the veil of illusion born from separation so that the creator could have a creature to fill with that joy. The tree of life gives us the ability to transcend that veil and reunite with God/self right Now if we choose. My headless way of life is not born out of a nesessity to escape the illusion but to transcend with it in love. Zen is just my way of melting my ego so that I can be filled with love and so I can transform my will to receive into a will to bestow.
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    Watching you Dan with BOTH Eyes.

    It’s quite a feat, I’ll tell you.

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    Dan’s still a big fat Muppet!!!!

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    I wonder when my chains come off?



    Dan, with no Nous, you are just a Muppet and my puppet little one.

    I’m going to eat some chicken.

    And to all you Angels, stay away with your harping, unless you want to hug a pillar of fire.

    If you get burned, well, then you have an open mind.

    Kick us green knights out and you burn in your closed minds.

    Silly Muppets, it’s just a setup for Love under Will.

    That is the whole of the Law.


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    Post by dan Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:09 am

    Ackbar,

    If you want to be with Jesus, you’ll need to keep your head a little bit longer.

    But, if you and smelly just can’t wait, what is holding you back?

    Am I standing in your way?


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:10 am

    Don’t.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:12 am

    Join us Brother Dan
    And we can form a Band
    We will have green suits
    And have lots of hoots
    There are sure to be ravens
    And owl friends about
    Don’t be craven before any graven
    And you will find your way out

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    Dan, why are you fighting Kairos?

    Why do you hate the Bees before you?

    You should rejoice, the Bulls are slaughtered and have new life.

    It is already done Friend Wink

    It is now and always be beyond your head.

    Amor Fati

    I’m skating on the black ice...where do you think leads...you will not have your 2nd coming, the One is already here, always on the Future, Present and Past.


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    Thanks for the kind offer, smelly, but I still have a few paradigms to shift, with a little help from my friends....... and the Princess.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:20 am

    I am doing the shifting here and everywhere I go all with blue electricity and red magnetism.

    I move the Heavens thus.

    Each of you works the same.

    That’s why your Muppets.

    You do my bidding.

    Until you join me.

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