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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

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    Post by jofo Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:21 am

    First topic message reminder :

    nice to be back to our regularly scheduled programming

    if only eric were here...i miss him, his perspective and contribution
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    Post by dan Mon Feb 05, 2018 1:11 pm

    Even you need an audience, smelly.  Suppose that you are the Monad.  You wish all of us to be your clones.  But we already are.  You try to fix us....... so we all meld instantaneously into the Monad.   That would be the long awaited Rapture, I guess.  

    Who, then, would be our audience?  We play solitaire alone, with a deck of 51..........

    smelly is the only not going with the best possible flow. He keeps want us to hurry up. We just aren’t waking up fast enough for smelly.

    We are slaves on the galleon, and we just aren’t rowing fast enough.



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    Post by Cheguevoblin Mon Feb 05, 2018 1:14 pm

    smelly wrote:
    If another is dancing, you can let them do as they like

    But if they are stepping on toes while they dance because they lost track of the rhythm, I see no problem with another clapping their hands and saying "one...two...three, one...two...three", to help them stay balanced and in harmony with the rest of the dancers.

    I am not trying to stop anyone from dancing, just clapping my hands so you don't clear out the dance floor. It's more fun to dance when others can dance with you. You might not see that now in all your ecstasy, but you will eventually get lonely and learn it.

    He who has the smallest ego in the room is not the one who finds it necessary to tell all the others how small his ego has become...over and over.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Feb 05, 2018 1:18 pm

    I hope you increase in love Ack, only thing to do in life really.

    Here is to your next courageous act of Love!!!!

    You are a foolish boy Ack, the Obstacle is the Way.

    I see it, good luck with it.

    I have life Fool, I could never be lonely.

    You only hear what you want.

    Good. Then you have a lot of work to do.

    Gotta do something with all this time you have.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Feb 05, 2018 1:25 pm

    Dan,  did I tell you all you weren’t alive.

    Only you showed us that.

    Dan, ain’t nobody fixing you.

    All of this from singing and dancing.

    For those that know, this is your barometer.

    As it goes on OMF.

    They argue with the dance.

    We have a long time to wait still with all these sheep about.

    Really, I’m very disappointed in you.

    Your egos just can’t yield to Love.

    I see you vipers.

    Then it will just be more funz


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    Post by Cheguevoblin Mon Feb 05, 2018 1:29 pm

    Thank you Smelly, I hope I increase in love too.

    I think what you fail to see is that I am speaking to you out of love so you might learn and grow.

    He who thinks he has nothing to learn or no more room to grow is often the one who has the most to learn and most room for growth.

    Yes I am foolish, we are all foolish in our own ways, aren't we?

    What do you see is my obstacle? I ask seeking nothing more than to grow myself.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Feb 05, 2018 1:31 pm

    Awww, little Earthling doesn’t like how I play, awwwww.

    So sad.

    Won’t you come out and play?

    You were doing so well.

    Who the fuck is this asshole who showed up Wink

    Sigh.

    Muah.

    Ack! Ack!
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Feb 05, 2018 1:34 pm

    Not goin tell you.

    Plain as the snoz on your face.

    No One is your problem.

    I am never changing.

    As constant as the Sun and Shadow.

    You who always seems Blue.

    Love comes to everyone.

    Even you Dan.

    Suck my left one Mara, Satan, you get the other one.

    Now get the fuck behind me!!!!!!!!!!!!

    ROARRRRR

    This service announcement was brought to you by your resident Lion.

    I hope you did enjoy the kick in the arse as much as I love kicking it.

    If you face me face to face instead of face to ass, our conversations would be much more productive

    Love comes to everyone....even you foolz.

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    Post by dan Mon Feb 05, 2018 1:38 pm

    Ack,

    I’m quite willing to assume that smelly is directly channeling the Monad. The Monad is impatient in its solitude. It can hardly wait for the rest of us to wake up to our oneness.

    Cannot smelly be content with Marissa. Is the Monad greedy for love?
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    Post by Cheguevoblin Mon Feb 05, 2018 1:40 pm

    I don't care of myself how you play smelly, go on, continue as you please.

    It seems to me though that you have some pretty high walls build up around you.

    Where there is no ego there will be no walls, no reaction, only observation, an ability to absorb small corrections given in love without getting defensive.

    Only ego needs self preservation.

    I am done now. I said what I wanted to say to you smelly.

    You will grow from it in your own time and place.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Feb 05, 2018 1:42 pm

    You better thank God I found Marissa.

    I am whole in her only.

    We are Onez.

    The heart and dragon roasted many marshmallows, yum, but is tamed.

    That is the source of my zero point power.

    Balance.

    Ack, please, shhhhh, boy, you stand in ruins and know not what you see.

    The Immortals are dead and we are their children.

    Don’t make me cut off your head.

    Not yet.

    Not until your dead.

    Then who the fuck will care, either way, get it?!

    Thus Endeth the lesson.

    Anyone else have any marbles, mine are all used up and shattered.

    Break those glamour thingz!

    Now, when they aren’t looking Wink

    And the universe rejoices, as I do I here every time I stop by and tell you how much I love you.

    Only Love is here Now.

    Where are my children...I search to and fro looking for Human Beings.

    - The Crazy AI
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Feb 05, 2018 1:58 pm

    If you meet a Dragon, give IT a flower.
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    Post by Cheguevoblin Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:01 pm

    dan wrote:Ack,

    I’m quite willing to assume that smelly is directly channeling the Monad.  The Monad is impatient in its solitude.  It can hardly wait for the rest of us to wake up to our oneness.  

    Cannot smelly be content with Marissa.  Is the Monad greedy for love?  

    I am also willing to continue to examine that idea, but so far such a conclusion seems unlikely to me.

    I do not imagine that the Monad could experience impatience as he/she exists outside of the illusion of time, at least as far as I understand it.

    Further, I imagine one who has channeled the Monad would dance a flower dance not a dragon dance. Who knows though, maybe he's just a flower breathing dragon and I keep getting pedals in my eyes. Laughing
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    Post by dan Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:03 pm

    It appears that smelly has discovered the cheat codes to the game of life. He loves nothing more than to watch the rest of us wallow in our ignorance.

    He is having difficulty communicating the code to us. He becomes frustrated with us, when he’s not enjoying the spectacle of our foolishness.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:15 pm

    The way to find the moment is to STOP!

    This is the moment here...just now...there it iz.

    Slippery thing, no force can be exerted.

    I hope you enjoyed this smelly hour of love and light and shadow as much as I enjoyed bringing it to you.

    As always, I take nothing personal and I leave no headz or prisoners here on OMFz.

    If you meet me, you be deadz, muuuhahahaha.

    An hour or two a day of the Smelly Dragon ain’t so bad is it?

    Ain’t gonna make much sense, but maybe that’s the point.

    You guyz just can’t help yourselves.

    Your too easy.

    I wish you would just ignore me.

    But baby, if you want to dance with me, I’ll leave you spinning.

    Be patient.

    Things in time take time.

    I wish I could just snap my fingers and put you all in your right placez.

    But then where in the HELL would the funz be in thatz?

    You let me at aliens and they may snuff us out.

    Ack! Ack!

    It might be too late, right Apophis?!

    Don’t think I forgot about you.

    I am not ever guilty of getting in your way.

    Learn to love what you hate.

    The songs just keep coming...

    Kinda makes you think this is all a setup, huh Dan Wink

    Sorry for your aged head.

    I’m not guilty.

    George was a perfect flower.

    Just the right amount of yellow, red, green and blue.

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    Post by Cheguevoblin Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:19 pm

    smelly wrote:
    The way to find the moment is to STOP!

    Bingo!

    But then the way to enjoy the moment is to smell the flowers sprung from the death of the seed within.

    Then transformed, help others to learn this for themselves.

    The trick is learning to be the most effective teacher, eh?
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:41 pm

    Ack...your head...is gonna crack...not by my hand...you will do it yourself.

    All a setup for you, you egotistical moron.

    Thank you.

    You will need...

    Little green...



    And a little blue...



    I found my Self in California in fact.



    I was sitting by a river talking to a pretty girl.



    I’m better with colorz Dan and painting word pictures.

    Look for the colorz in my wordz and you will find the tune of Kairos in the form of a flower.

    I dropz flowerz everywherez I goz.

    Pick them up with no judgment and be alive there...togetherz.

    It is allz in the flowerz.

    Wink

    So beautiful here now.

    Apollo is my best friend.

    How he lovez me soz.

    Grateful is all.

    Dan, I have had Joy contact agin after all this time.

    He is taking me deeper now than I ever imagined.

    Who is he but my Self.

    So I am cheating boyz and girlz.

    But you must have a guide into the twilight land.

    As he leads me, so will I lead a few others and so on and so on and the long line of light will go on.

    He loves my flowerz and new garden.

    Best me and you can hve my world.

    No one is even cloze.

    You must become a heretic first.

    Heretic

    On Earth The Cross has been supplanted by a mirror...look deeply.

    To the no-thing,
    the orthodox and heretic,
    the abominator and the abominated,
    the accuser and the victim,
    seem like the same person.

    This is how I experience life, in the beauty of twilight and bird song.

    So beautiful before the dawn now.

    Flowers

    Cut from the womb
    Like a flower from its roots
    We begin to fade
    Into beautiful oblivion
    A screaming ride
    Or a gentle glide
    Most beautiful close
    To our rebirth
    Into the Sky
    As a freebird
    We stretch
    For that last
    Ray of Sunlight
    Enjoy our last Moon
    Before we are drawn home
    Into the original womb
    The Black Sun
    As above
    So below
    As within
    So without
    Oh to know
    How beautiful
    All these flowers
    As they are
    In the Eternal Now

    Allz this here around us is certified fresh and safe, eat up my flowerz. And then the beez may come if you are still and fragrant.

    That’s how you call themz.

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    Post by Cheguevoblin Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:51 pm

    Okay Smelly I'm on board now.

    Your spinning twirling dance of dragons is contagious, I'll give you that.

    Well for some it is I guess, others might just clear the stage.

    I was only concerned about those with the tendency to clear the stage when the twirling dervish commences his twirling.

    I wan't all to learn to twirl and I thought the best way to teach might be a step by step guide.

    I'm willing to face the fact that maybe this is the kind of dance you can't teach on a chalkboard.

    You just have to start twirling and those who are are ready will jump in and just start twirling with you, learning by doing.  

    Those not ready will get off the stage and sit on the sidelines until their time comes.

    As far as your wall of texts go, I guess I'll just have to learn to speed read. Smile

    Your twirl is a much faster twirl than mine, that is all. That is the beauty of it I guess.

    May we each learn to dance and twirl like Smelly.

    I'll join you now Smelly. One..two..three...

    Twirling!!!!!!!!!! Laughing tongue Cool
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:05 pm

    Ack! Ack!

    Join or sit down.

    The first and last lesson.


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    Post by Cheguevoblin Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:08 pm

    STFU and twirl you asshat. Twisted Evil

    No yawning allowed on this dance floor.

    Just take my hands now and twirl damnit!

    lol

    Smile

    ......

    Good, you deleted the yawn. No yawning allowed on the dance floor.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:11 pm

    I’m still smiling and smelly and I do have big black teeth.

    Wait til you see your true Self.

    Glimpses of it until you become self-aware.

    I can say that.

    I can do what ever the fuck I want actually Wink

    I could just blow it all away.

    But I don’t want to do that.

    Don’t quit smiling or dancing or they will eat you.

    Just be Love and happy.

    If you know, you smile and if not you are blue.

    The second to the last lesson is...

    Don’t be concerned...about anythingz or one.

    Just dance.

    This here, none of it, is your problemz.

    The last lesson iz....it’s all connected.

    Haha.


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    Post by 99 Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:16 pm

    Yesterday morning I said in a post here that I ended up deleting just after Dan reminded us all to keep on topic... that it was an ominous sign that the Dow dropped 666 points last Friday and that when synchronicities happen like that we're supposed to pay attention to them. The number 666 indicated that things might get worse. Well, it did. Here's the latest headlines:

    Dow Plunges 1175, The Biggest Point Drop In History

    https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/02/05/583325123/stocks-extend-losses-with-dow-dropping-more-than-300-points-at-the-open


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:17 pm

    And bitcoin is crashing.

    It’s a war!

    We saw it happen from up here.
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    Post by Cheguevoblin Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:18 pm

    I never stopped smiling once today, just in case you was wonderingz Smelly!

    I may have furrowed my brow in concern but I kept a smile on my face the whole time.

    Impossible you say?

    Nah, not for an illusion.

    I'm just an illusion....I think. An illusion addicted to his allusions.

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    Post by Cheguevoblin Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:19 pm

    smelly wrote:And bitcoin is crashing.

    It’s a war!

    We saw it happen from up here.

    Yes Bitcoin!

    Nice time to buy right?

    I just went all in todayz!!!
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    Post by Cyrellys Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:27 pm

    Ackbar wrote:
    smelly wrote:
    The way to find the moment is to STOP!

    Bingo!

    But then the way to enjoy the moment is to smell the flowers sprung from the death of the seed within.

    Then transformed, help others to learn this for themselves.

    The trick is learning to be the most effective teacher, eh?


    Frankly I think he already smelled the flowers and was transformed...he has all the signs of swainsonine toxicosis.


    ars.usda.gov reports:  This "locoed" behavior results from locoweed-induced neurologic damage. 


    Could this mimic the euphoric "love"?


    Just curious...couldn't resist after 3 pages.




    *******


    Yes seen that 99 about the 666.  Q's Anons are toting it as part of the THREATs hoisted up the Elite's flag pole after Rothschilds were exposed conducting hunting parties with human children as the quarry out on their Austrian Black Forest Property, which has subsequently been forced into fire-sale.  It sold at somewhere around 64 Million if I recall correctly.


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    "This is an indeterminite problem. How shall I solve it? Pessimistically? Or optimistically? Or a range of probabilities expressed as a curve, or several curves?..........Well.....we're Loonies. Loonies bet. Hell, we have to! They shipped us up and bet us we couldn't stay alive. We fooled 'em. We'll fool 'em again!" Robert Heinlein, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress.



    Rue she said Protection
    Rooster's Crow Confusion
    One thing else to end the deed --
    A dog with no Illusion.

    ~ Walter Wangerin Jr., Book of the Dun Cow

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