Hello, Cy, OMF II - Part 2

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And for the insane, or other wise, we present:

Schroedinger's Cat is not Alone

http://arxiv.org/pdf/1004.4206v4

Beatriz Gato, Beatriz Gato-Rivera
(Submitted on 23 Apr 2010 (v1), last revised 31 Mar 2011 (this version, v4))
We introduce the `Complete Wave Function' and deduce that all living beings, not just Schroedinger's cat, are actually described by a superposition of `alive' and `dead' quantum states; otherwise they would never die. Therefore this proposal provides a quantum mechanical explanation to the world-wide observation that we all pass away. Next we consider the Measurement problem in the framework of M-theory. For this purpose, together with Schroedinger's cat we also place inside the box Rasputin's cat, which is unaffected by poison. We analyse the system identifying its excitations (catons and catinos) and we discuss its evolution: either to a classical fight or to a quantum entanglement. We also propose the BSVΨ scenario, which implements the Complete Wave Function as well as the Big Bang and the String Landscape in a very (super)natural way. Then we test the gravitational decoherence of the entangled system applying an experimental setting due to Galileo. We also discuss the Information Loss paradox. For this purpose we consider a massless black cat falling inside a massive black hole. After that we outline a method to compute the contribution of black cats to the dark matter of the universe. Finally, in the spirit of Schroedinger, we propose that next generation double-slit experiments should use cats as projectiles. Cat interferometry will inevitably lead to the `Many Cats' interpretation of Quantum Mechanics, allowing to shed new light on old mysteries and paradoxes. For example, according to this interpretation, conservative estimates show that decision making of a single domestic cat will create about 550 billion whole universes every day, with as many replicas of itself.

Cy,

You treat knowledge as the anti-Karma.  You see both as being Infinite.  Thus, like pagans, do you believe in the Eternal Return.  

You do not comprehend that Jesus broke that Spell, with his own blood.  

You claim to be of the Source's family, and so are all, we.  You cannot stomach, however, that there might have been a favorite son.  That feeling is very easy to grasp.  What you do not quite appreciate is that all we are that Son, but we can grasp that only by knowing the Son, forward and backward.  You know the Son forward.  You are about to meet the Son backward, which is why so many anticipate the anti-X.  No?

Steve and you, and many, do understand that the sky is about to fall. It is more difficult to see how the sky can fall w/o causing mayhem. Yes, one does have to break a lot of eggs in order to make a cosmic omelet. What you are just about to understand is that there only ever was One cosmic Egg, and we are That!

That Egg was asleep. Jesus broke that Spell, by being the Logos. Me? I'm just the quick-order omelette Chef. You could say that I got a Spatula for Xmas.



(cont.)

Timeline of the far future ...

http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20140105-timeline-of-the-far-future

dan wrote:Cy,

You treat knowledge as the anti-Karma.  You see both as being Infinite.  Thus, like pagans, do you believe in the Eternal Return.  

You do not comprehend that Jesus broke that Spell, with his own blood.  

You claim to be of the Source's family, and so are all, we.  You cannot stomach, however, that there might have been a favorite son.  That feeling is very easy to grasp.  What you do not quite appreciate is that all we are that Son, but we can grasp that only by knowing the Son, forward and backward.  You know the Son forward.  You are about to meet the Son backward, which is why so many anticipate the anti-X.  No?

Dan you are expressing yourself in your formative belief of understanding what you think I think. That expression seems obsessed with quantitative values rather than qualitative values.

You are more focused on how you think I perceive things quantitative rather than qualitative.

Whether something is infinite or finite is not relevant.

Dan wrote:See, Cy, you believe in Karma. Karma is both right and wrong. There has only ever been one Karma, shared equally by all of us, until Jesus came and stole it back from us, like the thief in the night. He was so sneaky, we didn't realize it, until X2.

Yes, Karma is the ultimate Cause, and so it is also love. It is love/time in a bottle. Wilhelm Reich was kinda right about that. He just didn't quite realize how big/small the Bottle was!

Dan wrote:You treat knowledge as the anti-Karma. You see both as being Infinite. Thus, like pagans, do you believe in the Eternal Return.

Dan, I think you're getting your "up" a little muddled with your "down". Are you coming or going?

That concept of Karma is something I've seen as a teaching tool occasionally used by the Source. Not always. Do I believe in Karma? I can only say I've observed occasionally what looks like the use of the concept. Do I treat knowledge as anti-Karma? No. Having knowledge is only part of the equation. Wisdom is applying knowledge well according to the values we profess which are congruent with the values of the Source and our anam chara, Jesus.

Time is not a relevant factor in the cycles of soul evolution. To become entrenched in a focus bent on measuring it or assigning measurement to those participating in it, is to be distracted from quality and potential. You are off on a tangent that could certainly lead into infinity if you choose to make it so.

You don't know what I do or don't stomach because you don't seek understanding over (in lew of) conscription. You are rewriting the wheel for everyone, including those who have surpassed where you now stand.

Don't you think there is something amiss with doing such a thing? The idea that one person or one group should dictate the spiritual path of the many rather than leave them their freedom to explore and discern for themselves to come to their own conclusions freely?

Ah, but some must have order out of what they think is chaos. Which is more chaotic? Individual freedom of self-discovery or spiritual fascism?

Cy

Out of the frying pan and into the fire....a necessary part of some recipe's IMO.

Cy,

You say there is no difference between finite and infinite.  Hmmm...... well, spoken as the true Monist.  

Yes, but, the reason why we are here, Cy, is to appreciate the One, as if we had met it for the first time.  Yes, you are fairly adept at a particular kind of dance, and it may even be a one of a kind, TBMK.  But, even you admit that you have not yet paid all your dues, that you still have many things to learn.  

I, OTOH, as you may notice, am not quite so willing to make this admission, just as a matter of Principle, mind you.  

Yes, I am, like my fellow Xians, claiming to have been saved, but, then, in almost the same breath, turn around to claim that they are not quite yet saved, simply because they know Jesus forward, but not backward....... coming, but not going!  

This is why you, Steve and everyone else believes either.......

1.)  There will be a physical apocalypse and/or....

2.)  .....it is world without End.....

See, we are so inured to the idea of a punitive God, it is very difficult for us to accept that, in the End, there can be only mercy.  

Surprise.....!  

Yes, Cy, and everyone else, you know when you have finally been trapped.  You know that when you can no longer distinguish between the finite and the infinite.  It is by almost extinguishing that distinction that Science has wormed its way into our innocent psyches.  

How has Science managed this trick?  I have two words for you...... Georg Cantor.  

Georg C and Charles D both understood their respective transgressions, before God, which, in hindsight, will bear a remarkable resemblance, one to the other....... both attempting to quantify the unquantifiable.  

It all comes down to the question of AI vs NI, or 'natural' intelligence.

And the whole point is that there is nothing more unnatural than 'natural' intelligence.  

Do you get this, Cy?  If you get this, then you will no longer be able to deny the essential distinction between the finite and the transcendent.  

Actually, come to think of it, there is nothing that is not transcendent.  The only thing that is not transcendent is Sin/Ignorance.  Wow.  I think you heard that first, right here, on WBPW!  

Yes, and this is just the problem with the Xians and the Pagans, they both attempt to objectify Evil by assigning to it a supernatural status, when, in point of fact, it is the only thing that cannot be so consigned.  If you can grasp this, Cy, then you are halfway to the BPWH.  


4:25-------

In further point of fact, yes, Nature = Sin.  There, I finally managed to repeat what the church fathers were trying to tell us.......

Nature and Sin are the dual illusion, which comes between us and the ChiRho.  The Apocalypse is just the rending of that veil.  That is when the sky falls.  It is a true spiritual cata-strophe..... an over-turning, i.e. a gestalt switch.  

You, Cy, do not quite understand the true nature of the bare/blinding truth.  TBMK, you have not yet been so blinded, as Saul was, once upon a time.  


Here is something that you totally fail to grasp, Cy...... the first shall be last, and the last shall be first. You consider yourself to be a spiritual fatcat, relative to the rest of us, 99%. What, then, is my excuse? My main excuse is that I have been willing to hobnob with the devil, in the belly of the beast, in the valley of the shadows/spooks. You have no such excuse. You have not quite paid your dues.




(cont.)

dan wrote:Cy,

You say there is no difference between finite and infinite.  Hmmm...... well, spoken as the true Monist.  

Yes, but, the reason why we are here, Cy, is to appreciate the One, as if we had met it for the first time.  Yes, you are fairly adept at a particular kind of dance, and it may even be a one of a kind, TBMK.  But, even you admit that you have not yet paid all your dues, that you still have many things to learn.  

I, OTOH, as you may notice, am not quite so willing to make this admission, just as a matter of Principle, mind you.  

Yes, I am, like my fellow Xians, claiming to have been saved, but, then, in almost the same breath, turn around to claim that they are not quite yet saved, simply because they know Jesus forward, but not backward....... coming, but not going!  

This is why you, Steve and everyone else believes either.......

1.)  There will be a physical apocalypse and/or....

2.)  .....it is world without End.....

See, we are so inured to the idea of a punitive God, it is very difficult for us to accept that, in the End, there can be only mercy.  

Surprise.....!  

Yes, Cy, and everyone else, you know when you have finally been trapped.  You know that when you can no longer distinguish between the finite and the infinite.  It is by almost extinguishing that distinction that Science has wormed its way into our innocent psyches.  

How has Science managed this trick?  I have two words for you...... Georg Cantor.  

Georg C and Charles D both understood their respective transgressions, before God, which, in hindsight, will bear a remarkable resemblance, one to the other....... both attempting to quantify the unquantifiable.  

It all comes down to the question of AI vs NI, or 'natural' intelligence.

And the whole point is that there is nothing more unnatural than 'natural' intelligence.  

Do you get this, Cy?  If you get this, then you will no longer be able to deny the essential distinction between the finite and the transcendent.  

Actually, come to think of it, there is nothing that is not transcendent.  The only thing that is not transcendent is Sin/Ignorance.  Wow.  I think you heard that first, right here, on WBPW!  

Yes, and this is just the problem with the Xians and the Pagans, they both attempt to objectify Evil by assigning to it a supernatural status, when, in point of fact, it is the only thing that cannot be so consigned.  If you can grasp this, Cy, then you are halfway to the BPWH.  


4:25-------

In further point of fact, yes, Nature = Sin.  There, I finally managed to repeat what the church fathers were trying to tell us.......

Nature and Sin are the dual illusion, which comes between us and the ChiRho.  The Apocalypse is just the rending of that veil.  That is when the sky falls.  It is a true spiritual cata-strophe..... an over-turning, i.e. a gestalt switch.  

You, Cy, do not quite understand the true nature of the bare/blinding truth.  TBMK, you have not yet been blinded, as Saul was, once upon a time.  



(cont.)

Still trying to put words in my mouth Dan? You do this so much I could make a career out of picking your posts apart...but today I have a more interesting diversion -- All but one of the family heirlooms arrived today for safe keeping via FedX; the violin, trombone, trumpet, snare drum, and the antique sheet music & music books (a couple of which are already several decades over a century old) which go with the instruments. Straight out of storage in Oregon. I just finished recording them and now I have to find a repair shop qualified to inspect them for any needed repairs or maintenance. It has been a long term goal to restore the music to the dance.

Did you know that revisionists similar to yourself once outlawed the music and instruments of the Gael? The music through the harp, fiddle, and pipes suffered for the politics of spiritual wheelwrights. No longer. Never again.

The Source has never been dead or asleep Dan. And it was never deaf either. But suit yourself. You will, no matter what anyone has to say about it.

First you denigrate knowledge by calling it anti-karmic, then you call natural intelligence unnatural, then you call natural evil, then you say nature and sin are illusions, then you go on and on some more about infinite and finite....no wonder your ilk have a serious aversion to the Constitution and the Third Option and are bent on planetary suicide. With this kind of thinking I can see how we arrived to this condition.

Geez Dan. Quantitative valuation i.e. infinite and finite being not relevant is not the same thing as difference.

Mind is not limited by time, space, or place.

Your regard of your understanding of what others have discussed with you is like swiss cheese. Full of holes.

I gotta run.

Cy

Cy.......

The Source has never been dead or asleep Dan. And it was never deaf either. But suit yourself. You will, no matter what anyone has to say about it.

If so, then you and I are redundant.  The Source does not need us.  

Is this what you finally claim....... you and I are expendable?  

Do you truly want to go there, Cy, or would you rather take this under advisement?!

Not only, Cy, can you not hear my words, you are having much difficulty hearing your own words.  

And what, pray tell, happened to Steve Q, along the way?  You have touted his wisdom more than you have touted the wisdom of anyone else, within my memory.  

In fact, Cy, correct me if I am wrong, but the one you tout, Steve Q, has verged upon suggesting that he could be the X2, he being just a bit more coy than I.  So, yes, there can be scant doubt that I have made a similar claim.  Perhaps we should discuss the relative merits of these two disparate/desparate claims?  

No?  Can anyone think of a better game to play in these latter-days?  

Or, are we just going to muddle thru, yet again, Cy, in this charade called the Eternal Return? Expendable that you and I are........



(cont.)

And one last thing be for I take off,

Dan wrote:Here is something that you totally fail to grasp, Cy...... the first shall be last, and the last shall be first. You consider yourself to be a spiritual fatcat, relative to the rest of us, 99%. What, then, is my excuse? My main excuse is that I have been willing to hobnob with the devil, in the belly of the beast, in the valley of the shadows/spooks. You have no such excuse. You have not quite paid your dues.

Oh I've paid my dues Dan. I just don't brag about them. Those who have been where I have, don't have to. There is no retirement in the deep end of the pool. No accolades. Nothing you could write home about.

But should I leave my grin behind, remind me. We're all mad here...

The Cauldron and the peace it brings
Are nowhere in this land.
May Arthur find them finally
With you among his band.
Keep your shield before you
And your head held high, my friend.
I'll bring my sword to join you when
The Prydwen sails again.
The Prydwen sails again.

Who were they that sought the lost mariners of the Greenwitch in 1975? Men who's legacy would be the restoration of the Third Option. Who were the Watchers in the early 1990s that stood silent witness when the Leviathan ate its own? Few things worse than such a funeral. All who work to fulfill the Potential pay the price. Some more than others. They are defined by those who carry on. Their stories are branded on our souls. Our accomplishments are not our own but theirs.

Cy

dan wrote:Cy.......

The Source has never been dead or asleep Dan. And it was never deaf either. But suit yourself. You will, no matter what anyone has to say about it.

If so, then you and I are redundant.  The Source does not need us.  

Is this what you finally claim....... you and I are expendable?  

Do you truly want to go there, Cy, or would you rather take this under advisement?!

Not only, Cy, can you not hear my words, you are having much difficulty hearing your own words.  

And what, pray tell, happened to Steve Q, along the way?  You have touted his wisdom more than you have touted the wisdom of anyone else, within my memory.  

In fact, Cy, correct me if I am wrong, but the one you tout, Steve Q, has verged upon suggesting that he could be the X2, he being just a bit more coy than I.  So, yes, there can be scant doubt that I have made a similar claim.  Perhaps we should discuss the relative merits of these two disparate/desparate claims?  

No?  Can anyone think of a better game to play in these latter-days?  

Or, are we just going to muddle thru, yet again, Cy, in this charade called the Eternal Return?  Expendable that you and I are........



(cont.)

Yet another correction:  I don't "tout" Steve.  I have quoted information he has brought to the table as being pertinent to understanding the landscape.

As far as being "on the verge of suggesting that he could be the X2"  Uh no.  I think you've spent far too much time thinking such a thing and are casting shadows.

Dan wrote:If so, then you and I are redundant. The Source does not need us.

That's a truly odd assumption on anyone's part, IMO. No Dan, you are not expendable; no one is expendable.

I think what the Source see's as needful is for the Source to decide. Not us.

I happen to think some people get so caught up in the "who" among them, that they forget there's a "why", a "quality" they need to be most concerned about. I happen to think that is your greatest hangup Dan. I think you spend so much time thinking about who touched you, and what that may or may not make you, and whatever time frame of reality is involved, that you've totally forgotten there is a focus on human quality here. That the teachings of the Source and the son have ever been about quality of human nature; giving definition and parameters to work with.

Well, Cy does like to suppose that we get smarter.

By making any such supposition, you only beg more, very obvious questions....... like how smart can we get?

See, Cy, you have never made a statement that has not begged the most obvious of questions.

And then you say that you and I are not redundant, and, yet, you do not deny the Eternal Return. You, thereby, contradict yourself.

You deny the Infinite, while, in the same breath, denying the End.

Cy, you seem quite determined to keep all of us terminally confused.

And, at the same time, you refuse to tout any historical figure.

You leave us drifting, in the midst of a storm, on a ship without a Captain, and also without either a rudder or a compass.

And all of this confusion has no purpose and no End. But, yet, you are quite determined to undermine and overthrow everyone who has ever seen further than you are presently able to see. Yes, we have the blind leading the blind, and calling it spiritual Progress..... Perpetual progress, no doubt.

Dan:

What do you value most in life?

MD02,

I don't suppose that my values are much different from anyone else's, nor do I suppose that my life is that much different, either.  

1.)  I want to lead a fulfilling and loving life, with some joy and happiness along the way.  Nor do I wish to be spared life's sorrows and fears..... not implying, however, that I would ever specifically wish for any such.  

2.)  I hope to be able to leave a positive mark upon the world.... to be able to give more than I have received.  

What more could anyone ask for?  What less?  I have a fair imagination and sense of empathy, yet it is difficult for me to imagine being anyone else, other than for a brief spell.  Most of us are this way, I suspect.  The idea of actually swapping lives seems almost absurd.  

And, yet, I strongly believe in a universal scheme of reincarnation and transmigration, or what have you.  

Look, I consider myself a rather ordinary sort of person, who has, along the way, entertained a few unordinary ideas, without my ever having done anything more than simply taking my life, one day at a time.  Dealing as best I could with whatever seemed to be placed in front of me, just as we all do.  I see nothing particularly enviable or onerous about it.  I firmly believe in the democracy of happiness, kind of like in the Constitution, and not just as an ideal, but as an almost necessary fact of life.  

And, yet, without being clinically insane, I trust, I suppose myself to be never more than a phone call away from taking on the 'guise' of the X2..... like what else is new?  No bigee.  


But, in the best possible world, is there not also a best possible life?  I'm just not able to make much sense of that question.  

Rather, in the best possible world, all of us always have an unobstructed access to the cosmic mind, which is not entirely unlike our collective unconscious.  Most of us, however, and myself included, freely choose to be quite self-limiting wrt that access.  All of us, more or less wittingly, have experienced spontaneous, direct access to the universal mind.  Hey, been there, done that!  By the same token, we go easy with that access, lest we blow our own little fuses.  Each of us already seems to have enough on our plate, thank you very much!  


And yet........... let's all hang on to our hats, sports fans.  What I have just said will, tomorrow, be soooo yesterday!  

With the MoAPS, accessing the cosmic mind will be everyone's second nature.  That and our universal Soul-sharing are the true basis of democracy.  Political democracy is just a corollary of that spiritual democracy.

This is the NWO/Novus Ordo Seclorum.  Will capitalism be wiped off the face of the Earth, to be supplanted with a 'theo-mocracy'?  

Yes and no....... The global credit system will have residual functions.  It may transpire, for instance, that our individual credit limits will gradually be expanded, to the point that those limits become replaced with a 'social' credit of some sort.  From each according to their ability.......?!  I'm sure that various schemes will be implemented in various locales, whilst the freedom of travel will be honored to the utmost or optimal degree.  

The underlying issue will be the transitional fate of metabolism, in all its many guises.  Freedom will be the continuing recognition of those evolving exigencies.  In that process, our imaginations will be strained to the utmost.  


12:30---------

In general, 'reality', along with our psychic states therein, will become more expansive, more fluid, more porous and what have you.  

Our Visitors will play no small role in being our facilitators, in these regards.  Fear not, said the angel.  


Soon, I'll be heading out to participate in the LotP/WolfSpirit show.  We are presenting the postponed show on the Yellowstone Caldera: What happens when a Super-volcano erupts?  Our special guest will be geologist Eric Christiansen of BYU.  Showtime 5-6 EST.  


2am--------

Neither of us were particularly happy with the radio show.  The freshness may have been lost in the rescheduling.  Our next topic may be about the various applications for 'religious' representation/expression on the grounds of the State House in Kansas, including the satanists, amongst others.  

In the above list of 'reality' changes, I would include shape-shifting, as one way to circumvent the exigencies of metabolism...... following in the spirit of 'occasionalism', perhaps.



(cont.)

Correction...... not Kansas, but Oklahoma....... http://p.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jan/7/satanists-statue-design-oklahoma-capitol-sit-lap-s/

Is there anything serious here?  Is this the 'reductio' of all attempts to bridge the church/state chasm?  The lowest secular denominator is scientific reductionism, which is the de-facto religion of modern secular society.  


The end of the world cruise does seem to be moving ahead, but only four of us are signed up, for the 2nd week in February.  Contact me for details.  


Back to occasionalism.........

Yes, speaking of reductios, this has got to take the cake...... it is not the rock that causes the window to shatter, despite every appearance.  This is just like Leibniz' monads that have no windows (to be shattered, in the first place).  It is all just part of the pre-established choreography.  

Occasionalism is the inevitable graveyard of every idealism.  Such a shame...... ugly facts vs beautiful theory!  Domage.  Damage.  

Does one have to be certifiably nuts, in order to be an occasionalist?  Perhaps that is why Muslims are more susceptible to the seductions of jihadism.  

So what does happen with rock/paper/scissors?  Is there some truth lurking in that innocent game?  

There is a causal cycle, therein, or is it a prototypical CTC, of which all cycles are the logical heir.  That cycles superseded events was one of my earlier insights.  

Events emerge from cyclic phenomena.  But there is irreversibility.  Cycles all have a preferred chirality wrt time.  But where is the (bi-?)cycle in the car crash?  Is that not a bit of a stretch?  

Hey, is the car-crash problem not the same as our Eschaton/Spark-gap problem? Just a One off-er.....  


11am------

How do accidents/occasions emerge from harmony?  

The prototypical occasion was the murder of Abel, was it not?  And what was it, exactly or metaphocally/ontologically?  Just one damned thing after another?  

No. The murder logically followed from the original sin, which must have been what, then? Was it more a question of knowledge or of memory? Which came first.... time or memory? The sin was the breaking of time symmetry, rather like Fitch's decay of the Kaon. I was hiking out to visit the Prin/Penn accelerator, one blustery winter's day, in '64. The prototypical red pickup stopped in front of me. It was Val.



(cont.)

dan wrote:Correction...... not Kansas, but Oklahoma....... http://p.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jan/7/satanists-statue-design-oklahoma-capitol-sit-lap-s/

Is there anything serious here?  Is this the 'reductio' of all attempts to bridge the church/state chasm?  The lowest secular denominator is scientific reductionism, which is the de-facto religion of modern secular society.  


The end of the world cruise does seem to be moving ahead, but only four of us are signed up, for the 2nd week in February.  Contact me for details.  


Back to occasionalism.........

Yes, speaking of reductios, this has got to take the cake...... it is not the rock that causes the window to shatter, despite every appearance.  This is just like Leibniz' monads that have no windows (to be shattered, in the first place).  It is all just part of the pre-established choreography.  

Occasionalism is the inevitable graveyard of every idealism.  Such a shame...... ugly facts vs beautiful theory!  Domage.  Damage.  

Does one have to be certifiably nuts, in order to be an occasionalist?  Perhaps that is why Muslims are more susceptible to the seductions of jihadism.  

So what does happen with rock/paper/scissors?  Is there some truth lurking in that innocent game?  

There is a causal cycle, therein, or is it a prototypical CTC, of which all cycles are the logical heir.  That cycles superseded events was one of my earlier insights.  

Events emerge from cyclic phenomena.  But there is irreversibility.  Cycles all have a preferred chirality wrt time.  But where is the cycle in the car crash?  Is that not a bit of a stretch?  

Well, I would say that the Dems can congratulate themselves on the new Statue, but I'm wise enough to understand political expediency/convenience, re-elections, class warfare, and maintaining power at all costs as status quo.  I'm Not a fan of bearded billy goats, just in case you are wondering. I do pray to the big guy and son before I drift away to dreamland and find the silver surfers.

White racist Christians, (Repubs) are really no different, now are they?

Perhaps the EOW cruise has not filled its seats because of its advertisement?  Does sound rather, hopeless.  Will the manifest be filled with the movers and shakers of old or the new bloods? Jake has abandoned you.  Perhaps, he will rejoin when the time is appropriate. Even Christ Dinned with Sinners of old.

Wisdom within the innocent game?  Who knows. Dreams are not based in reality, right?  Oh, as an FYI. Were you aware that David Adair and another noted physicist, Steven H, dreamed solutions to unsolvable equations as well as new formulas?  



As an afterthought:  How many shoot-downs had civis on board? Too bad, so sad?

24min in the video to get to the dream part.

MD,

If I am protected, this is how it is being done.  Need I elaborate on the onion game, and how to keep from crying when peeling the onion?  There was a vastly larger fusion machine, cheek by jowl with the Prin/Penn accelerator.  How stupid do you think those boys were?  Was Val stupid, or was he onto a much bigger game?  It is amazing, the thrall of perpetual progress and eternal return.  Val saw right thru it.  You, Cy and all the blue-sky guys and gals have no clue.  Want no clues....... Domage.  

Look, MD, if you wish to pay any attention to anything I have ever said, you are welcome to interact.  Otherwise, you are wasting precious time.  I am quite able to bowl alone, Jake or no Jake.  Much practice, and thank you very much for the thought, anyway.  
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Yes, there was time asymmetry in the decay of the neutral Kaon.  But was this a cause or a symptom of the God of historical time?  Was it a window on the world, or just another mirror in Indra's necklace?  If only a mirror, it was well-placed, nonetheless.  

Yes, rock breaks glass...... paper covers rock?

Memory breaks the Cycle. So it wasn't actually the tree of knowledge, it was the tree of memory. The river Lethe was briefly transgressed. The cosmic mind was accessed.

This is what happens in the sparkgap, when metabolism shape-shifts.




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Not really sure what I have to offer to the quantum-go-gang, Dan. I am in the mystery with a thousand more questions than answers.  I don't do math by dream. I just used that to illustrate a point.  Feel free to enlighten as needed about the convention.  I will read it. You know my situations no doubt.

To be quite honest, I just follow my feelings, strange as that may sound.  I should probably head out to fill up my tires, now that I am thinking about it. The arctic blast sucked the life out of them.

Dan, how does this fit into the best possbile world? I assume you interpret this as best possible illusion?

http://io9.com/this-is-the-deepest-into-space-anyone-has-ever-seen-1497018925

Beautiful sight, nonetheless. I imagine in your world, you go beyond this view and fall of the edge of reality (simulation?) ... 

Currently I'm experiencing the best possble case of the flu, if this is the best possible world.

Oh yes, and this:

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/former-pentagon-chief-blasts-obama-administration-micromanagement/

Is this why Ron left the White House for hamster duty? I recall Kit is a friend of Gates. This resonates with psi-intel on Gates: "This is the hardest job in the world."

Dan, not only the Tree of Knowledge, twas the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil (ask Adam).

MD,

If you actually want to be, you could be very helpful, but it does mean putting aside your high-school dreams, and trying to remember the kindergarten dreams.  That's where the real action is.  Don't trust anyone over 12, where it all becomes the need for speed.


Gary,

We fall off the edge of the world every day, but our mental filters are usually able to block it out.  

Micromanagement......?  IMHO, the hidden-hand will still rule the roost, just more so, post-MoAPS.  

Yes, morality is another form of symmetry breaking.  Heaven and hell are the reductio of morality.  Bibliolatry was an essential fruit from the same tree.  Same with the Pharisees, then and now.  I guess I'm here to restore the symmetry, not by denying the breaks, but by justifying them, one and all...... rock breaks glass.  


Gravity is the great symmetry breaker, and that is why the best and the brightest are trying to thermalize gravity...... http://arxiv.org/abs/1312.3253v2 .  There is not a single rocket scientist who has a single clue as to the window being opened, herein.  I have, maybe, two clues, and am in the market for a few more.  


It may be fair to say that twitter is a synthesis of micromanagement and the hidden-hand.  It gives the hidden-hand a bit/longer reach.  No?  It will figure in the logistics of the MoAPS, obviously.  


Rock breaks glass.......  gravity fells apple.  Isaac bites apple.  

Glass comes from sand..... broken glass.  Not quite.  The world ends in an eclipse.  We knew that, since 1999, thanks to JoSk, but that was a metaphor.  

That metaphor is likely connected with the great seal.  And even with Freya, the j-girl, perhaps.  It is about piercing the veil.  And there is the vesica-p and the arcs, which is also rendered in the tao symbol.  Must be something still missing.  


Maybe it has to do with dimorphism.  What else could it be?  But where is the seminal link?  I always have liked e^i.pi = -1.  This is a three-fer.  I have not happened onto its intuition.  It is Euler's identity....

"Like a Shakespearean sonnet that captures the very essence of love, or a painting that brings out the beauty of the human form that is far more than just skin deep, Euler's equation reaches down into the very depths of existence."

Hmmm..... http://www-history.mcs.st-and.ac.uk/HistTopics/e.html

I would, however, hasten to compare Euler's identity with Mandelbrot's...... z' = z^2 + c. What is the connection? Clearly is has to do with the root of -1.



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dan wrote:MD,

If you actually want to be, you could be very helpful, but it does mean putting aside your high-school dreams, and trying to remember the kindergarten dreams.  That's where the real action is.  Don't trust anyone over 12, where it all becomes the need for speed.

Good advice.

Was the rest my advisement, a push from the nest?  What ever happened to : "Do no harm."  Surely, you know by now, I am well grounded despite the circumstances. Yes, all the little people do have their secrets.

The number of people falling away from interest in Area 51 is accelerating. Why? Because of the total fantasy hype, which can be seen in the picture of the sentry with the flying saucer. More and more people are discovering that the minds inside the perimeter of A51 can be read, since the power and content of mind emanations do not follow the laws of physics about diminishing per distance. So, it's kind of funny to see people still putting up the Area 51 secrecy pose.

If you say so.....



I'm not the expert advice and I'm over 12.

skaizlimit wrote:The number of people falling away from interest in Area 51 is accelerating.  Why?  Because of the total fantasy hype, which can be seen in the picture of the sentry with the flying saucer.  More and more people are discovering that the minds inside the perimeter of A51 can be read, since the power and content of mind emanations do not follow the laws of physics about diminishing per distance.  So, it's kind of funny to see people still putting up the Area 51 secrecy pose.

Lol, finally something Skai and I can agree on.

since the power and content of mind emanations do not follow the laws of physics about diminishing per distance.

Mind is not limited by time, space (distance), or place (any given point in reality).

Yes it is very funny. But they have a rule book. And they're in harness with shiny vision blinders on the bridle. And their employer has great carrots. And you just can't convince slaves to their stomach's that there is any other purpose in life out there.

lol. Cy

Cause and effect works for billiard balls, or so we suppose.  But does it?  The funny thing is that theoretical physicists almost never speak of cause and effect.  They speak of symmetries and the breaking thereof.

In order for one object to effect another object, there has to be an interaction, which can only be mediated by force fields. If these fields did not have some very special properties, there would be no observable objects, to begin with. A related point is that there can be no quantum events without observations, but there are no general rules to specify what constitutes an observation, without specifying an entire experimental apparatus and the relevant procedures. Intentionality rules the day, but there are no laws of intentionality. It is not physical. Subjectivity and normativity are unavoidable.

Rock breaks glass........ It sounds simple, but only in very special or contrived contexts. Physics and contrivance are two very different things. There is only ever an ad-hoc overlap.

Process philosophy is just one, incomplete attempt to deal with these issues. Processes are made up of occasions. Occasionalism is just another, robust attempt to analyze our phenomenal world. The proper choice depends on your intentions.

Dan:

I may have by accident, sent you a PM.

From thunderous mountain landscapes viewed from above to the erratic trajectories of Brownian motion, fractal patterns exist at many scales in nature. Physicists believe that fractals also exist in the quantum world, and now a group of researchers in the US has shown that this is indeed the case.

http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2010/feb/09/fractal-patterns-spotted-in-the-quantum-realm

As if extra dimensions weren’t strange enough, new research has probed an even more mind-bending possibility: that spacetime has dimensions that change depending on the scale, and the dimensions could have fractal properties on small scales.

http://phys.org/news157203574.html#jCp

Will your "end of the world cruise" sail off the edge of the world? ;-) Or drop out of reality into a fractal whirlpool?