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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

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With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

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    Cyrellys

    Post Sun Mar 30, 2014 10:33 pm by Cyrellys

    Uncommon Thoughts on Common Things - Cyrellys - Page 17 Prometheus


    WOOT !!!!!!  They're open sourcing it...so the squelchers can chase a planetary brush fire they don't have the resources to contain.

    http://hopegirl2012.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/qeg-user-manual-3-25-14.pdf

    Courtesy of Fix the World Team...viral guys viral.  Everyone stow a copy.

    Cy
    Cyrellys

    Post Thu Apr 03, 2014 9:28 am by Cyrellys

    Ran across something today that infuriated me to no end. 

    Once again Shariah Law wafts stink across the planet.  Posters at the site of the article in question:  

    Council of Islamic Ideology declares women’s existence anti-Islamic  http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2014/03/15/comment/coucil-of-islamic-ideology-declares-womens-existence-anti-islamic/  

    out of Pakistan are trying to claim it is all satire....satire my arse!  If it were satire it would have been clearly labeled as such.  There is nothing funny about Shariah Law period in the eyes of women around the world.

    As far as I'm concerned such a proclamation is an act of war.  And I got a three-word war cry for any man with so little respect for women as to make jokes like that:

    REMEMBER LORENA BOBBIT!!

    and an admonition that says, if woman is to go and sin no more then she is required to remember that next time SHE MUST EMPLOY THE THOROUGH USE OF A BLENDER!

    You men out there, if you don't like MY LITTLE SATIRE (which is clearly labeled for the moment) then police your own; I'd suggest employing liberal use of a bar of your most stringent soap in the mouth of the author.  


    Aren't we all such a funny people - we human race!


    Especially between that bit from Pakistan and China's latest about wanting to wipe all the people in the United States out so they can come over here and colonize, thus satisfying their need for more living space...I suppose that was meant to be funny too?  Especially when our CFR certified politicians are sent over to China to teach them to be good little globalists.  They learn quickly it seems...even to the point of mentioning that meeting some years back with the 20% determination right in the speech bold as brass  -- gutsy gotta give the Chinese at least that even if they find being the globalists depopulating 'itch appealing for their own purposes.

    Cy

    P.S. track back  https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t175p375-hello-cy-omf-ii-part-2#5271
    Cyrellys

    Post Thu Apr 03, 2014 10:37 am by Cyrellys

    I wonder if all you machinators out there think ET don't read either?  2017 ought to be really entertaining.

    Since the leadership on almost every side of the multifaceted fence seem to think it appropriate to get the morons among us running around acting like animals just a mere three years before the big event.

    Shame!  You people are embarrassing.

    Cy
    Cyrellys

    Post Fri Apr 11, 2014 8:37 am by Cyrellys

    UPDATES  on the Cliven Bundy situtation:

    http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2014/04/10/coalition-of-western-state-legislators-sheriffs-and-veterans-stand-vigil-in-support-of-embattled-nevada-rancher-cliven-bundy-%E2%80%98to-prevent-another-ruby-ridge-or-waco%E2%80%9D/


    http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/video-militias-are-on-route-is-the-2nd-american-revolution-starting-in-bunkerville-nevada_04102014


    http://www.thedailysheeple.com/militias-are-on-route-is-the-2nd-american-revolution-starting-in-bunkerville-nevada_042014



    FROM EMAIL
    Sir David Andrew
    3:05 AM (5 hours ago)

    to
    The Rumor Mill News Reading Room
    Live On The Ground Report From Bunkerville... Not Many Militia Yet, But Blackwater (XE) SF Dressing Out In BLM Uniforms

    Posted By: Watchman
    Date: Thursday, 10-Apr-2014 18:28:57

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tfOVg5R4ngA


    FROM ELIAS ALIAS  - Montana OathKeepers
    [Editor's Note: Cal, we have just posted a logistics and support notice, here:http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2014/04/10/action-alert-boots-on-the-ground-need-donations-for-food-and-water-at-bundy-ranch-standoff/
    Thanks for thinking of that. Uncommon Thoughts on Common Things - Cyrellys - Page 17 Icon_wink
    Salute!
    Elias Alias, editor]



    QUOTE:

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      SCWeldon Says: 
      April 10th, 2014 at 11:32 am
      Now that we have all seen exactly what Obama and his regime intends to do, isn’t time that as patriots we stop belly aching and start acting as true patriots and citizens under our constitution? You can talk and barter all you want but, until someone stands ready to fight and die if need be to stop this course in which we Americans are headed, it’s an exercise in futility. Raise your banner, ready your arms, and take down this facade of a government and give this country back to the people. They intend to disarm us so we can not fight back, we are letting it happen. They take our lands, tax our food, and shit on the constitution that so many of our men and women died for and yet again we let it happen. What’s it going to take for them to do before we act? All it takes for evil to succeed is for good men to set around and do nothing. Don’t be complacent, stand up for yourself and your neighbors, put aside the petty issues of greed and race, stand tall together and fight for our country. Time for action has come, time for diplomacy is over. Talk is cheap, action is all that matters now.




    BLM fracking racket exposed! Armed siege and cattle theft from Bundy ranch really about fracking leases - See more at: http://www.thedailysheeple.com/blm-fracking-racket-exposed-armed-siege-and-cattle-theft-from-bundy-ranch-really-about-fracking-leases_042014#sthash.N2DCgRY7.dpuf



    http://www.thedailysheeple.com/the-bunkerville-project-glencorextrata-the-blm-and-dwindling-federal-funds_042014
    The Bunkerville Project: Glencore Xtrata and the Government Owned Gold Mines




    FROM EMAIL:
    Sir David Andrew
    5:22 AM (3 hours ago)

    to
    This is what happened in a similar case back in 2011.
    The article was too lengthy to post to this email and contains several videos and photos.

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    Subject: Fw: Fwd: Sheriff DeMeo, Nye County, Nevada
    Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2014 02:58:18 -0700 (PDT)
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    ----- Forwarded Message -----
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    Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 1:46 AM
    Subject: Fwd: Sheriff DeMeo, Nye County, Nevada

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    Date: Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 9:47 PM
    Subject: Fwd: Sheriff DeMeo, Nye County, Nevada
    To:


    Impressive Sheriff

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    From: Starrett Chris <---------@gmail.com>
    Date: Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 5:59 PM
    Subject: Fwd: Sheriff DeMeo, Nye County, Nevada


    http://politicalvelcraft.org/2011/10/19/nevada-sheriff-tony-demeo-stops-federal-agents-feds-engaging-in-illegal-confiscation-of-cattle-and-water-rights-of-county-property-owner/



    Cyrellys

    Post Fri Apr 11, 2014 8:39 am by Cyrellys

    FROM EMAIL:


    Sir David Andrew
    2:49 AM (5 hours ago)

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    [ltr] Last Man Standing, Rancher: armed feds are surrounding my farm

    http://freebeacon.com/issues/last-man-standing/

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    Government vehicles and personnel outside of the Bundy ranch / Cliven and Carol Bundy
    BY: Elizabeth Harrington 
    April 8, 2014 7:34 pm
    A two-decades-old battle between a Nevada rancher and the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) has resulted in officials armed with machine guns surrounding the ranch and forcibly removing the owner’s cattle, according to the rancher’s family.
    Cliven Bundy, the last rancher in Clark County, Nev., has been fighting a “one-man range war” since 1993, when he decided to take a stand against the agency, refusing to pay fees for the right to graze on a ranch run by his family for centuries.
    After years of court battles, the BLM secured a federal court order to have Bundy’s “trespass cattle” forcibly removed with heavy artillery, the family said.
    “The battle’s been going on for 20 years,” Bundy told theWashington Free Beacon. “What’s happened the last two weeks, the United States government, the bureaus are getting this army together and they’re going to get their job done and they’re going to prove two things. They’re going to prove they can do it, and they’re gonna prove that they have unlimited power, and that they control the policing power over this public land. That’s what they’re trying to prove.”
    Bundy said the government has brought everything but tanks and rocket launchers.
    Uncommon Thoughts on Common Things - Cyrellys - Page 17 ?ui=2&ik=e1a021c4f2&view=att&th=1454ffab496c6ace&attid=0.1
    Armed men outside the Bundy ranch / Cliven and Carol Bundy
    “They’re carrying the same things a soldier would,” he said. “Automatic weapons, sniper rifles, top communication, top surveillance equipment, lots of vehicles. It’s heavy soldier type equipment.”
    His wife, Carol Bundy, said that roughly 200 armed agents from the BLM and FBI are stationed around their land, located about 75 miles outside of Las Vegas. Helicopters circle the premises, and the airspace and nearby roads remain blocked.
    “We’re surrounded,” Carol Bundy said. “We’re estimating that there are over 200 armed BLM, FBI. We’ve got surveillance cameras at our house, they’re probably listening to me talk to you right now.”
    A National Park Service spokesman denied there were armed guards rounding up the cattle in a conference call on Tuesday. However, she confirmed that there was “security” in place, citing threats to the contractors who are removing the cattle.
    “Contractors are here and they are in place to round-up the cattle and to bring them to the impound area,” Christie Vanover said. “As for security, there [is] security in place, but that is merely to protect the contractors.”
    “As you know, we have received threats and the contractors have received threats,” Vanover said. “Our personnel here and throughout the park service and throughout the BLM have received threats, as well. So security is in place to merely protect the contractors so that we can complete this operation.”
    As of Monday, officials have seized 234 of Bundy’s 908 cattle. Impounding the cattle alone could cost the government as much as $3 million.
    “They just brought a load down today,” she said. “They kind of harass us as well. When we leave they follow us.”
    This afternoon eight helicopters surrounded the family after they began taking pictures, according to Bundy’s daughter, Bailey. Their son, Dave Bundy, was arrested for taking pictures on state road 170, which has been closed, and is being held by BLM.
    Uncommon Thoughts on Common Things - Cyrellys - Page 17 ?ui=2&ik=e1a021c4f2&view=att&th=1454ffab496c6ace&attid=0.1
    Government helicopters circle the Bundy ranch / Cliven and Carol Bundy
    The BLM said they took Dave Bundy into custody following his “failure to comply with multiple requests by BLM law enforcement to leave the temporary closure area on public lands.”
    Carol Bundy said five officials took Dave and “threw him on the ground.”
    “One put his knee on his head, the other put his boot on his head and pushed him into the gravel,” she said. “He’s got quite a bruised head. Just bruised him up pretty good.”
    Environmentalists are praising the government’s forceful actions, which are being taken to protect the “desert tortoise.”
    “We’re heartened and thankful that the agencies are finally living up to their stewardship duty,” said Rob Mrowka, a Nevada-based senior scientist with the Center for Biological Diversity. “The Gold Butte area has been officially designated as critical habitat for threatened tortoises—meaning the area is essential to their long-term survival as a species.”
    “[Cliven] Bundy has long falsely believed that Gold Butte is his ranch,” added Terri Robertson, president of Friends of Sloan Canyon.
    The BLM designated 186,909 acres of the Gold Butte off-limits for the “critical desert tortoise” population in 1998. Bundy had already lost his grazing permit five years earlier for refusing to pay fees for the land, which his family has ranched since the 1870s.
    The “federal grazing fee” is $1.35 per “Animal Unit Month,” or the amount of forage needed per animal, each month. Bundy said he owes roughly $300,000 in back fees, while the BLM asserts he owes over $1 million. The BLM defended the removal because Bundy did not “voluntarily” give up his cattle.
    “We’ve tried to do this through the legal and we’ve tried to do it through the political, and what we’re at right now, I guess we’re going to have to try to stand,” Cliven Bundy said. “We the people have to stand on the ground and get our state sovereignty back, and also take some liberty and freedoms back to where we have at least access to this land.”
    “The story is a lot about the cattle, but the bigger story is about our loss of freedom,” Carol Bundy added. “They have come and taken over this whole corner of the county. They’ve taken over policing power, they’ve taken over our freedom, and they’re stealing cattle.”
    “And our sheriff says he just doesn’t have authority, our governor says he doesn’t have authority, and we’re saying, why are we a state?”
    “I’m a producer,” Cliven Bundy said. “I produce edible commodity from the desert forage, and all of these things are governed under state law. So, in other words, this type of government has eliminated all of our state law, eliminated our state sovereignty, and has took control over our public lands and even took control over our Clark County sheriff. They’ve taken the whole county over. The whole state, almost.”
    “This is just about power of the government,” Carol Bundy said.
    Nevada Gov. Brian Sandoval (R.) voiced his concern about so-called “First Amendment Areas,” designated locations set up by the BLM where citizens can protest the removal.
    “Most disturbing to me is the BLM’s establishment of a ‘First Amendment Area’ that tramples upon Nevadans’ fundamental rights under the U.S. Constitution,” he said in a statement Tuesday.
    “To that end, I have advised the BLM that such conduct is offensive to me and countless others and that the ‘First Amendment Area’ should be dismantled immediately,” he said.  “No cow justifies the atmosphere of intimidation which currently exists nor the limitation of constitutional rights that are sacred to all Nevadans.  The BLM needs to reconsider its approach to this matter and act accordingly.”
    Sandoval also said his office has received numerous complaints about the BLM’s conduct, including road closures and “other disturbances.”
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    Cyrellys

    Post Fri Apr 11, 2014 9:28 am by Cyrellys

    Bits from the conversation at OK:

    11Bob Fanning Says:
    April 10th, 2014 at 11:33 am
    do UNESCO mercenary sharp shooters ( hiding in BLM uniforms} have the legal right to {at the snipers discretion} execute / use lethal force on Americans?

    Jeff Ford Says:
    April 10th, 2014 at 11:54 am
    The reason they posted snipers there was because people there threatened to shoot the BLM Rangers for removing the cattle off of BLM land. Now don’t get me wrong here I’m not standing up for the feds at all I’m just trying to put this into perspective for people that don’t know the background information that I have received from Oath Keepers that are on the inside trying to help us.
    [Note from Editor: Uhm, when we say, "BLM land", what does that mean? Has the US Federal government somehow re-written the US Constitution and thereby given the Federal government something that the Constitution did not originally grant to the Federal government? I'm meaning to say, the Federal government has no authority to own lands aside from post offices, postal roads, military installations, the ten-square-mile cesspool called Washington DC, and federal offices in the several States. The BLM has no lawful, legal, or moral authority to even exist, and certainly does not have any right to "own" land. As a "management" agency, it *thinks* it has the right to "manage" lands which are not post offices, postal roads, military installations, and WDC, but that is a mistaken belief on the part of the BLM and the Federal government which spawned BLM.
    We should all take pause to read the words of the Constitution, starting with Article 1, Section 8. Thanks for reading and posting here.
    Salute!
    Elias Alias]



    14Rhonda Reichel Says:
    April 10th, 2014 at 12:20 pm
    YOU HAVEN’T HEARD THE WHOLE STORY of how far they are overstepping until you read this:
    During those turbulent years of the 1990s, the late-great Congresswoman, Helen Chenoweth, in an interview with Michael Reagan, spoke these words:
    “BLM is taking onto themselves law enforcement that is normally saved for the State, law enforcement over motor vehicles. They’ve written into the regulation without authority from Congress, the ability to stop vehicles or to search people, to search a place or a vehicle without warrant or process; to be able to seize without warrant or process any piece of evidence and to test people for potential DUI (driving under the influence). They have redefined a parachute into a mechanized piece of equipment, so if you parachute into any of their areas you can be fined $20,000 or more.
    “It is amazing. Our founders, when establishing our system of government wanted to make sure that law enforcement was closest to the people. You and I have talked before about how important it is to make sure that you elect the very best local county sheriff because he should be regarded as the highest law enforcement officer in the area because he is accountable to the voters. They really worried about a national, a federal, law enforcement. To federalize our law enforcement is to create a situation that the pilgrims were trying to escape.
    “We are moving quickly to that. The Bureau of land Management is taking onto themselves law enforcement authority that Congress never gave them. In the Federal Land Policy and Management Act that was passed in the early 1970’s it made it clear that Congress said that, ‘first, you must go to your local county sheriff for law enforcement activities.’”
    See Reagan’s interview with Helen.
    Helen knew what she was talking about. The BLM controls over 60% of all of the land within her home State of Idaho. The BLM controls over 70% of all land in Utah; and in the State of Nevada, the BLM controls over 76% of all land.
    Chenoweth was as much of a prophetess as she was an observer when she added, “Whatever [land] we have left. Right now in Idaho and I am sure all over the West, they are moving people and human activities off the land.”
    Helen was also correct when she noted that the Federal Land Policy and Management Act (FLPMA), which was adopted in 1976, stipulated that BLM had to go through the county sheriff for any action that required law enforcement. Nearly four decades later, the BLM (and virtually every other federal agency) totally and thoroughly ignores this requirement.
    For those of us who still labor under the conviction that the U.S. Constitution is the supreme law of the land, it must be observed that the only crimes assigned to the federal government in the Constitution for law enforcement purposes are Treason, Piracy, Counterfeiting, and International law violations. That’s it! All other law enforcement matters are the purview of the individual states, according to the Tenth Amendment.
    http://www.newswithviews.com/baldwin/baldwin800.htm


    21Alan Martin Says:
    April 10th, 2014 at 1:58 pm
    This sheriff Gillespie and possibly the Governor should be recalled. Furthermore, these Feds should all be arrested and put in jail like any other criminal. Unbelievable that in America the citizens have armed thugs and snipers pointing rifles at them and treating them like murderers. Thank God for the actions of Rep Michele Flore, Rep Matt Shea, Stewart Rhodes, all the other American patiots for stepping in and helping to defuse this volatile situation. I wish I could be there to stand shoulder to shoulder with them and all these true American Patriots.
    I was listening to a great interview with Mr. Bundy and Alex Jones from the radio broadcast yesterday(4-9-14)Mr Bundy is a class act. Everyone should listen to this interview of a real American rancher. It can be found on http://www.infowars.com or http://www.prisonplanet.tv. Here is a link to youtube. The interview is in the second hour. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vd_SQZqKdI0


    tony newbill Says:
    April 10th, 2014 at 7:20 pm
    I am sorry but I didn’t get this Link in there on that last post , its Important to note the ideology of the past with the present and how this plays into whats happening to the individual rights clause of the Constitution and once power consolidates it becomes a big hammer that we are being warned about , here is that warning today , Even a supreme court justice has come out and warned us of CAMPS in the not too distant future , for crying out loud !!!!!!!
    http://potentnews.com/2014/02/06/supreme-court-justice-warns-fema-camps-are-coming/


    THE PRESS RELEASE

    April 10th, 2014
    Coalition of Western State Legislators, Sheriffs, and Veterans Stand Vigil in Support of Embattled Nevada Rancher, Cliven Bundy ‘To Prevent Another Ruby Ridge or Waco”

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    Press release:
    Coalition of Western State Legislators, Sheriffs, and Veterans Stand Vigil in Support of Embattled Nevada Rancher, Cliven Bundy ‘To Prevent Another Ruby Ridge or Waco”
    A Delegation of state legislators, lead by Washington State Representative Matt Shea, along with a  delegation of current serving Sheriffs, lead by Sheriff Richard Mack of the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association, and military and police members of Oath Keepers, are converging on the site of a stand-off between federal law enforcement and Nevada Rancher Cliven Bundy, to prevent bloodshed and to stand in defense of hardworking rural Americans who are under assault by a runaway federal government.
    LAS VEGAS, NV, April 10, 2014
    The Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association (CSPOA.org), led by retired Arizona Sheriff Richard Mack, and the Oath Keepers organization (oathkeepers.org) are assisting Washington State Representative Matt Shea in organizing a delegation of current serving Western state legislators and Sheriffs to travel to the site of a tense stand-off between Bunkerville, Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy and the Bureau of Land Management (BLM).  The delegation is traveling to Nevada to support a coalition of current serving Nevada legislators being organized by Nevada State Assemblywoman Michele Fiore, of Las Vegas, to stand vigil at the Bundy ranch to prevent Federal Government provocation of violence resulting in another Ruby Ridge or Waco type incident.  They also hope that their example of oath-sworn public servants defending the rights of the people will prompt Clark County, Nevada Sheriff Douglas Gillespie and Nevada Governor Brian Sandoval to honor their oaths of office by taking real action to defend the rights of the Bundy family, the rights of all Nevadans, and the sovereignty of the State of Nevada.
    Yesterday, April 9, 2014, Nevada State Assemblywoman Michele Fiore served the first watch in this vigil shortly after Cliven Bundy’s son, Ammon Bundy, was tazered by BLM “Rangers” during a heated confrontation.  The video of that confrontation can be seen here:

    The courage and resolve displayed by Ammon Bundy and his relatives is inspiring, and may well go down in history as a watershed moment – a turning of the tide.  But the above video also amply demonstrates the heavy-handed behavior of the BLM that risks escalating an already volatile situation into open bloodshed, that, once begun, may spiral out of anyone’s control.
    It is necessary that current serving public servants step in-between the protesters and the BLM, to protect the rights of the people and to prevent violence against them by the militarized federal law enforcement that are massing near the ranch to continue the forced confiscation (theft) of  Bundy’s cattle, while they also restrict all access to huge tracts of public land, and attempt to restrict the free speech of protesters with their absurd “First Amendment Area” (which the protesters are ignoring, to their honor).
    The Oath Keepers organization, comprised of 40,000 current serving and former military, police, and first responders, is also calling on its members and all other patriotic Americans to join the vigil at the Bundy ranch under the leadership of the current serving legislators and sheriffs.  The goal is to have at least one current serving state legislator and at least one sheriff on the ground at all times until this is over.  And they will be backed by a large number of military and police veterans, as well as dedicated patriotic Americans from all walks of life, to interpose and defend the rights of the protesters and to keep an eye on the actions of the BLM and any other federal law enforcement present, to prevent a recurrence of the horrid abuses seen at Ruby Ridge and Waco, and to hopefully pressure the Clark County Sheriff and the Nevada Governor to step up and do their constitutional duty.
    Regardless, please tell everyone you know to be praying for a peaceful resolution to this situation and for the safety of the brave patriots headed there and on the ground there right now.
    As Assemblywoman Fiore said yesterday during the launch of her vigil, “we are here because the Governor is not.” And she will remain there until Governor Sandoval steps up to do his job, by defending the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of Nevada, as he swore to do when he took office.  And Assemblywoman Fiore will not stand alone.  Other brave public servants will honor their oaths by standing with her, and there are thousands of Americans now on their way to stand shoulder-to-shoulder with them.    Governor Sandoval did at least, finally, state the following:
    “Most disturbing to me is the BLM’s establishment of a ‘First Amendment Area’ that tramples upon Nevadans’ fundamental rights under the U.S. Constitution. To that end, I have advised the BLM that such conduct is offensive to me and countless others and that the ‘First Amendment Area’ should be dismantled immediately. No cow justifies the atmosphere of intimidation which currently exists nor the limitation of constitutional rights that are sacred to all Nevadans. The BLM needs to reconsider its approach to this matter and act accordingly.”
    But the Governor needs to take the next step and go there in person, as is his duty, and order the Nevada Highway Patrol to actively interpose and stand between the people and an out of control BLM, to make sure the BLM actually reconsiders its approach to this matter and acts accordingly.  And he needs to speak out directly on the issue of federal subversion of what were supposed to be state lands, and the intentional destruction of rural America.  Silence in the face of tyranny implies consent.   Governor Sandoval needs to be sure he is not silent.
    This is not about cattle.  This is about power, and the trampling of rights.  It’s about a systemic power grab and abuse of power by the federal government as it runs roughshod over the rights of honest, hard-working rural Americans and over the rights of all the Western states.  This is not an isolated incident.  It is but the latest in a long train of abuses aimed at subjecting rural Americans to absolute despotism while destroying the property rights, economy, and independence of the rural West, in particular, and eventually wiping out all of rural America.  This is an attack on all of the West, which is why patriotic legislators and lawmen from all over the West are answering the call to defend it.
    And it is not just ranching that is under attack.  It is also mining, farming, logging, fishing, oil and gas, and any other industry that uses natural resources or the land.   This is a full spectrum, frontal assault on the rural West.   Ultimately, it is about bankrupting and impoverishing independent rural Americans to bring on a planned depopulation of the West.
    This is truly a range war, and it is being waged by all three branches of the federal government, including complicit federal judges who “make it legal” through their willful rulings that strip away any meaningful redress or shelter for ranchers and farmers who have worked the land for generations only to now be told that they can no longer do so because of one endangered species or another.  Entire regions of the West are being shut down and impoverished using this tactic.
    In this case, the Bundy family has run cattle on that same range since 1877 and they used to have fifty-two neighboring ranchers who did the same.  Now, using the Desert Tortoise as the weapon of choice, the federal government has run all the other ranchers in Clark County, Nevada out of business, and Cliven Bundy truly is the last man standing.   And it is also about all Nevadans being “prohibited” from using their own “Public Land” and the fact that the Feds were imposing their will over the state and it’s people at gun-point.
    Unless We the People begin to take a meaningful stand now, in full support of our patriotic state public servants who are willing to lead us, the domestic enemies of the Constitution will not stop until the West is a land of ghost towns, devoid of people, and we are all crammed into city slums, totally dependent and weak, with no protection of our rights, like third-world urbanized peons under the arbitrary and capricious control of corrupt dictators.  Remember the immortal words of Frederick Douglass:
    Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will. Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them, and these will continue till they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress.
    Under the Founders design, the states were to control their own land, unless, and until, the federal government purchased a particular piece of land, with the consent of the state legislature, for a fort, magazine, arsenal, dock-yard, etc.
    As Article One, Section 8, Clause 17 states, Congress has the power:
    To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States,and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings.

    When did the Federal government purchase the millions of acres in Nevada it claims to own?   When did the legislature of Nevada ever consent to it?   Where are the forts, magazine, arsenals, dock-yards, and other needful buildings on that land?  Where in the Constitution does it say the federal government can keep 80% of a state when it is admitted into the Union?  Nowhere.  And yet the federal government totally ignores the limited powers of Article I, Section 8, Clause 17, doctrine of equal footing, whereby new states admitted to the Union were to enter it on an equal footing with the original states.  Why doesn’t Virginia have 80% of its land claimed by the federal government?   Why doesn’t Ohio?  It is only in the West that this absurdity exists (and it is not just in Nevada.  Similar abuses are seen in the rest of the West).
    And now, the federal government is not even content with that.  It wants to control all of the land, and stop all beneficial use, by having complicit federal judges use the catch-all “commerce clause” to turn the Constitution on its head, inventing a general police power of Congress to regulate anything and everything, which is the basis for the entire modern regulatory leviathan that is now strangling and stomping rural America into the dust in the name of the Desert Tortoise, the Spotted Owl, the Delta Smelt (used to deny water to California farmers) and even prairie dogs (with Utah farmers who have farmed for generations told by the EPA that they could no longer till their land because it is now “prairie dog habitat”).
    We must stand now, or see our children impoverished and enslaved in their own country.
    As Thomas Paine said: “If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace.” That is a timeless truth that we must accept and embrace, lest we be cursed by future generations as cowards who sold them into slavery for the sake of our own fleeting comfort.  As Paine also said, “those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigues of supporting it.”
    It is vital that the Western States stand up now for the rights of their people and in defense of their state sovereignty.   As Thomas Jefferson and James Madison taught us in 1798, in the Kentucky and Virginia Resolutions, when the federal government violates the Constitution by claiming powers never granted, it is the duty of the states – all three branches of the state, and at every level, from the Governor down to the local dog catcher – to nullify and interpose to protect the rights of the people and to defend the dual-sovereignty design of this Republic.
    In contrast to Sheriff Gillespie, who is truly AWOL in his failure to defend the people of his county, there have been Nevada Sheriffs who take their oaths seriously, such as the legendary Sheriff Jones of Eureka County, Nevada and Nye County Sheriff Tony De Meo, who successfully defended rancher Wayne Hage against BLM abuse.
    We wouldn’t even be in this confrontation at the Bundy Ranch if Gillespie took his oath seriously, but even without him, it is time to get it done, and with Nevada State Assemblywoman Fiore and her brave coalition of Nevada legislators leading the way, and joined by a growing coalition of staunch constitutionalist public servants from many states, we will defend the West.
    We therefore call on all liberty-loving Americans who can possibly make it to Bunkerville, Nevada to join us in this vigil, NOW, in direct support of oath-keeping Western lawmakers and lawmen as they stand guard over the rights of the people and begin to push back against federal abuse.  Come take a meaningful stand, in a real fight where it counts the most – in our states.  This is far, far more important than any trip to Washington D.C. to wave signs and yell at a deaf and blind Congress, White House, or Supreme Court.  This is where the real battle is, and where you belong.  This is where you can make a real difference, and begin the restoration of the Republic, from the bottom up.
    And we call on all who cannot be there in person to be there in spirit, and to hold a prayer vigil for the duration of this struggle, asking that the Lord grant us wisdom, courage, humility, and His protection while we take this stand for our children’s future.  Truly, “where the Spirit of the Lord isthere is liberty.” 2 Corinthians 3:17
    We humbly endeavor, to the utmost extent of our power, to follow in the footsteps of our Founding Fathers when, in their time of great trial, they proclaimed “and for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.”
    Michele Fiore, Nevada State Assemblywoman, District 4, on behalf of a growing coalition of Nevada State legislators
    Matt Shea, Washington State 4th District State Representative, on behalf of a growing delegation of Western state legislators.
    Sheriff Richard Mack (Retired), for the CSPOA (as well as a member of the Board of Directors of Oath Keepers), on behalf of a delegation of current serving Sheriffs
    Stewart Rhodes, Founder and President of Oath Keepers on behalf of the Board of Directors of Oath Keepers and 40,000 Oath Keepers members
    CONTACT:
    Michele@votefiore.com
    matt@voteshea.com
    sheriffmack@hotmail.com
    contact@oathkeepers.org



    ….

    52Katina Young Says:
    April 10th, 2014 at 9:41 pm
    I am a Deputy Constable in Utah! I am also a certified EMT! I have been following this closely and am planning to go down as soon as I can. As for this event, tell me when and where for this and I will gladly be there! I took the oath when I became a Deputy and what I have been seeing is a crazy amount of excessive force on the BLM’s part!


    53James Says:
    April 10th, 2014 at 9:55 pm
    I am a Navy vet with medical combat training. I am in transit with medical supplies and ready to assist medical personal on site, I will care and enable injured Americans if this should escalate. God forbid

    Eugene Clark Says:
    April 10th, 2014 at 10:45 pm
    I watched the BLM Video again. I can’t help but feel the BLM left the scene not so much because of fear, but that they were high tailing it back to their headquarters to get more boots and “Firepower”. Looking at the landscape around there, it’s not conducive to any great defensive posture for you guys. You just might want to “Circle some Wagon’s” like in the old “Injun Movies” only do it with SUVs and Pick-ups. You Veteran’s and Law Enforcement Types know the drill. Spend some time teaching the Civilians some tactics during the down-time. Work in some Private Aircraft owners to make food and ammo drops for you and mace the dogs if you have to, for your own protection. There is a lot to cover before the Feds make the next move. (And they will)!!!! But the WORLD is WATCHING. I know !!!! I was just speaking to a native of India friend from CALCUTTA, who wanted to know what was happening here. He watched the BLM confrontation on HIS TV. So keep in mind that what you are doing has INTERNATIONAL REPERCUSSIONS. The WORLD is WATCHING to see how AMERICANS are handling the abuse of power by a Self Imposed DICTATOR President.

    Barbara Griffith Says:
    April 11th, 2014 at 12:07 am
    I would just like to let you folks know what the BLM has done to the wild horse herds that are protected by federal law. They have rounded up and put into dirty muddy holding pens in different states at least 40,000 of these horses and will not tell the public just where the horses are supposed to be kept. They have some gelded stallions on two or three ranches that is just for show.
    They claim the horses are just fine but none of us believe anything the BLM says. These horses was given public land to live on in 1971. Since then the BLM has rounded the horses up to the point of extinction. The BLM claims that there are to many horses for the land to support but everywhere after the horses are gone there is hundreds of cattle and sheep on the horses public range. They hire a company to use a helicopter to chase them into pens and then haul them to holding pens. There have been deaths of foals and mares both in some of the roundups. In the 90s they were caught by a temp BLM director sending truck loads of federally protected wild horses to slaughter. The director tried to stop what they were were doing and they forced him out. There are numerous organizations that have been working for years trying to force the BLM to leave the horses on their rightful federal lands but they use every excuse in the book to keep doing it. There has been lawsuits filed against them but the judges always sided with the BLM lawyers. I just thought you might like to hear from some people that have seen just what the BLM is capable of doing. They have a budget of millions of tax payer dollars and this is how they spend it. When they have a round up they have armed police there to protect themselves from mostly women watching the roundup from a distance trying to photograph the horses to see how many of them get hurt. They treat the protester like they are terroist


    69Little Stinker Says:
    April 11th, 2014 at 12:36 am
    ALL RIGHTS RESERVED
    WITH ALL DUE RESPECT
    THIS IS THE PROBLEM
    THERE IS NO PRIDE OR LOYALTY THREWOUT THE LAND OF THE REPUBLIC.
    TYRANNY- U.N. Flag Stands Taller than the American Flag in Local
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzOsgeelPgo (Preview)
    [Editor's Note: Thank you for the video showing a UN flag in a USA courtroom. We will be spreading that video around so more folks will know about it.
    Salute!
    Elias Alias, editor]

    Staszek Says:
    April 11th, 2014 at 12:49 am
    Has anyone else noticed that the BLM (www.blm.gov) website is down. Since it was reported that the BLM had signed a contract with Noble Energy to mine weapons grade minerals on the 600,000 acres in this dispute, their website has been shut down, probably to remove the incriminating evidence. The BLM was successful in bankrupting all of Bundy’s 52 neighbor ranches, and only Bundy is blocking their access to allow Noble energy onto the land to pollute the river with mining debris. Oh, BTW, the contract is a $1 BILLION dollar contract, so a simple $3 million dollars for a roundup is just pocket change, after all it’s just your tax dollars at work for you…
    This dispute has absolutely nothing to do with grazing rights or the poor desert tortoise that the BLM has decimated by slaughtering hundreds of the tortoises in their “care”.
    And, using helicopters to run the cattle to death is a favorite past time for BLM who also waits until foaling season to use the same technique to run newborn mustang foals and their mothers to death- its all Sport to the BLM Monsters.
    My guess is that the SNIPERS are Spetsnaz who have been hold up at Hawthorne Army Depot, just up the road, for the past year…
    Shame on the lowly cowards Sheriff Gillespie & Gov. Sandoval. Everyone should flood the Gov. with emails @ http://gov.nv.gov/contact/ for all the good it will do…
    I just donated to the cause and pray for the safety of those who go to stand with “WE The PEOPLE”.
    The time has come to stand up to the BULLY.


    Christopher Tobias Says:
    April 11th, 2014 at 6:33 am
    Has anyone looked into the fact that Harry Reid’s son wants to bring a Chinese solar panel company to the same area? It’s a very odd coincidence.
    http://nlpc.org/stories/2012/09/10/chinese-solar-company-learns-cronyism-harry-reid


    Cyrellys

    Post Fri Apr 11, 2014 11:06 pm by Cyrellys

    BREAKING NEWS!! Militia Arrives at Bundy Ranch
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13z6fqsot6w&feature=em-uploademail&noredirect=1
    Cyrellys

    Post Sat Apr 12, 2014 12:52 pm by Cyrellys

    Cy:  Is this what is going on? (below scene):

    A.    http://www.mynews3.com/content/news/story/BLM-ends-Bundy-cattle-roundup-citing-safety-issues/apDCbaO5ykGj9-mBGInDgg.cspx

    BLM ends Bundy cattle roundup, citing safety issues


    B. Sir David Andrew
    5:48 PM (14 hours ago)

    to
    Warning! WARNING! WARNING!

    I received word from Nevada at 18:30 ET that the BLW pulled out.
    It is Friday. If this be the case.
    The FEDS love doing armed assaults at five AM on Saturday and Sunday mornings.
    DO NOT give them the opportunity of such pleasure.

    The raid the FEDS conducted in Kentucky was on Sunday morning.
    But the Kentucky militia was not sleeping, it was the last raid those thugs will ever conduct.
    But then, no one in government wants to talk about those eight dead gestapo agents.

    Hold your positions. Do not, DO NOT, withdraw. DO NOT WITHDRAW!

    The FEDS have used this tactic before.
    They withdraw, and then wait for the militia to withdraw; and then return the next morning or two days later with massive show of force.

    They played this game at Indianapolis Independent Baptist Church (Pastor Dixon) and at Browns in New Hampshire.
    As soon as the militias pulled out the FEDS came back and seized the properties.

    The militias stayed in place at Freeman, Montana, therefore, the FEDS were not about to kill everyone, who were there. If the militias would have withdrawn, eighteen people would have been murdered by the FEDS.

    The FEDS are after the minerals, which they intend to give to China for payment debt. This has nothing to do with turtles, and the turtles are not endangered.

    Please send this warning to everyone member of the militias as possible. Do not allow the FEDS to steal this land. Stay in place. It is now a matter of a waiting game. The United States went bankrupt at 14:00 ET on April 11, 2014, come Monday morning Obamanation may have a difficult time in finding any funds with which to pay these mercenaries. In fact, a lot of Federal employees come Monday morning may be sent home. This evil machine is about to grind to a halt if they cannot secure some funds by Monday.

    DO NOT ALLOW THE FEDS TO TAKE THIS LAND. If they cannot deliver the land they cannot receive the funds that they were hoping to receive. Then Obamanation's tyrannical regime will be out of business, without the militia having to fire a shot. Mercenaries will not fight, if they cannot collect their pay. Time is of the essence, staying in place for a week should break the machine. The bansters wanted their money before Passover, April 15. Do not allow that to happen.

    Please forward this to everyone, who you believe has the need to know, especially, militia members. ASAP!

    http://militias.info


    C. Clark County - Southern Nevada Area Communications Council (SNACC)
    http://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=669


    D. J--------
    5:28 AM (2 hours ago)

    to me
    The Fed will just keep printing / digitizing USD. The economy / USD is not yet ready to collapse. It will definitely collapse at some point, but we're not quite there yet.
    China's economy is worse than ours believe it our not. There internal political situation is just as tenuous as ours...worse actually.

    There's no doubt that the stock market is disconnected from reality. The only thing that sustains it is quantitative easing and plunge protection.
    I used to be a stock broker back in the late 80s early 90s. I know what I'm talking about.

    Just keep buying food, lead and gold/silver. You can buy fractional gold for $50/gram at provident metals. Silver is under $20/Troy Oz.

    They say you can't eat silver or gold, but don't fall for that old line. The US has no gold, it's all gone.

    Currently, good and silver pricing is being manipulated downward. I personally believe gold should be at around $2500-3000/oz and silver somewhere around $30-40 based on a 65-1 spread.

    By the way, historically the ratio of silver to gold has been 16:1 so silver should be the better buy. Gold is currently at $1318 and silver is $19.98....the spread is 65:1. If it were 16:1, silver should be at $38 right now.

    If you get a chance there is a great interview by John B Wells at Caravan to Midnight where he interviews both V the guerrilla economist and W the intelligence insider. It's on YouTube. That interview will explain everything to you. It's the best interview I've listened to.


    Sent from my iPhone


    E. J--------
    6:55 AM (56 minutes ago)

    to j---------
    There are two desperate reports of possible Russian troops involvement with the situation in Bunkerville. As you may or may not know, Russian troops have been spotted in CA, TN and MT over the last couple of years.
    There are two videos on YouTube posted by FreedomFighters212. Unfortunately I cannot post a link.


    Sent from my iPhone


    F. 'YARD FARMING'(USE OF BOMBERS AND FIGHTER JETS AND ATTACK HELICOPTERS) WILL BE USED -NO FLY ZONE- SERIOUS ESCALATION OF THEIR EVIL INTENT IN NEVADA
    The area over the ranch takeover by lucie forces has been
    declared a no fly zone for a big area over and around it. This is ominous
    as they want no one to see what they do and also can call in air power
    upon the defenders. They will call in and utilize the airpower that was practicing
    recently for just this type of thing. As stated, the lucie practitioners have gone
    to full encrypted voice and remain so now over CONUS, with full encryption in place,voices cant be monitored but aerial assets have been fully activated over the Continental United States. Folks need to be on lookout for airpower moves toward the ranch and track it.Those with necessary Radio and and air unit tracking capabilities should be on the look out for increase in encrypted radio transmissions which may indicate use of aerial assets being ordered against them.Prior to communications going encrypted,voices were heard bragging on who and how many people would be killed-according to sources they sounded like a bunch of giddy psychos preparing for slaughter.Please note the Dream i was sent this morning:
    IN MY DREAM I SAW TWO MEN I COULDN'T RECOGNIZE, TALKING TO OBAMA. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WERE SAYING BUT A STRONG VOICE SAID, "HE IS A MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE AND THEY ARE PLANNING HOW TO IMPLIMENT MARTIAL LAW AND NATIONWIDE CHECKPOINTS BY PROVOKING A RIOT AT THE BUNDY RANCH, AS A WAY TO PREVENT THE MAY 16TH MARCH ON THE CAPITOL BECAUSE THEY ARE AFRAID OF THE PATRIOTS TURNING THE TABLES AND GETTING THE MILITARY AND GOVERNORS ON THEIR SIDE. THEY ARE ALSO ANGRY SOMEONE ORDERED CELL TOWERS SHUT DOWN BECAUSE IT TIPPED OFF THE PATRIOTS TO BRING SATELLITE PHONES AND HAM RADIO SCANNERS IN ALL FUTURE BATTLES." THEN THE DREAM ENDED. THIS DREAM WAS VERY REAL AND MEMORABLE ... UNLIKE NORMAL DREAMS. I FIGURED I SHOULD SEND IT IN.

    Apr 12, 2014 Source: http://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=33&d=873

    END QUOTES.
    Cyrellys

    Post Sat Apr 12, 2014 1:17 pm by Cyrellys

    http://www.infowars.com/breaking-sen-harry-reid-behind-blm-land-grab-of-bundy-ranch/

    Breaking: Sen. Harry Reid Behind BLM Land Grab of Bundy Ranch

    Kit Daniels
    Infowars.com
    April 11, 2014
    The Bureau of Land Management, whose director was Sen. Harry Reid’s (D-Nev.) former senior adviser, has purged documents from its web site stating that the agency wants Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy’s cattle off of the land his family has worked for over 140 years in order to make way for solar panel power stations.

    Deleted from BLM.gov but reposted for posterity by the Free Republic, the BLM document entitled “Cattle Trespass Impacts” directly states that Bundy’s cattle “impacts” solar development, more specifically the construction of “utility-scale solar power generation facilities” on “public lands.”
    “Non-Governmental Organizations have expressed concern that the regional mitigation strategy for the Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone utilizes Gold Butte as the location for offsite mitigation for impacts from solar development, and that those restoration activities are not durable with the presence of trespass cattle,” the document states.

    Much more at source.
    pman35

    Post Sun Apr 13, 2014 5:49 am by pman35

    The Bureau , can't do this as its privately owned land and so should realise this , and move their operations elsewhere , Bundy has every right to hold his ground , its like give them an inch and they will take a yard , give them 1/2 a mile and they take ur land. Theft and bullying is what this is.
    Cyrellys

    Post Sun Apr 13, 2014 9:55 am by Cyrellys

    pman35 wrote:The Bureau , can't do this as its privately owned land and so should realise this , and move their operations elsewhere , Bundy has every right to hold his ground , its like give them an inch and they will take a yard , give them 1/2 a mile and they take ur land. Theft and bullying is what this is.


    Yes. It was just a matter of time till the criminals ran across someone who was not a push-over. Up until this they had been targeting people who have been conditioned to not defend themselves; to not react with strength against violation.

    This isn't over, I think. They gave up too easily and there is too much money involved. They will be back with a vengeance. Militia leaders are saying to leave now would be a mistake. They have done this before; waiting till the cameras and defenders have left then come back on the attack.

    It makes sense to me. The situation is suspicious.

    Cy
    Cyrellys

    Post Sun Apr 13, 2014 12:33 pm by Cyrellys

    The MONEY INVOLVED seems to be 4.5 Billion dollars followed with a SOLAR ENERGY ZONE (piece of Agenda 21):

    QUOTE

    The powers that be wanted my community’s water, the globalists want Bundy’s land to build a monolithic energy hub which is powered by solar energy controlled by the Chinese and they want to put it on Bundy’s property and I have the document that proves these claims.

    Solar Energy Zones
    I have discovered the existence of a BLM document which introduces America to a new Agenda 21 land designation and it called a “Solar Energy Zone”. The smoking gun BLM document is entitled:

    Regional Mitigation Strategy for the
    Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone
    Technical Note 444
    Produced by:
    Bureau of Land Management
    March 2014
    http://www.blm.gov/pgdata/etc/medialib/blm/wo/blm_library/tech_notes.Par.29872.File.dat/TN_444.pdf


    The BLM produced document carefully spells out all the Agenda 21 precautions to protect the environment and indigenous wildlife in these newly created Solar Energy Zones. The document specifically mentions the tortoise and it need to be protected, which is at issue in the Bundy case. Every form of species is protected within these Solar Energy Zones except for humans and nothing is mentioned about how land will be acquired through the eminent domain process.

    The document makes it clear that land can be acquired to protect local species which could be threatened. This is how the federal government is getting around declaring eminent domain and paying people fair market value for their land, prior to stealing it. This is exactly what my community went through in the last decade in fighting against the Canamex Highway.

    Reid, Clark County Commissioners, the Chinese and Cronyism
    “The Bureau of Land Management, whose director was Sen. Harry Reid’s (D-Nev.) former senior adviser, has purged documents from its web site stating that the agency wants Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy’s cattle off of the land his family has worked for over 140 years in order to make way for solar panel power stations”.

    END QUOTE Source: http://thecommonsenseshow.com/2014/04/13/the-bundy-affair-is-the-tip-of-the-iceberg-to-whats-coming/


    *************



    http://www.naturalnews.com/044697_secret_audio_recording_Bundy_Ranch_BLM_Dan_Love.html

    Transcript also at link


    *******************


    To put it bluntly, the people are being hoodwinked into believing that the situation is being resolved. It is not. It is a strategic de-escalation to fool the public.
    Date: Saturday, 12 April 2014
    Time: 1840 ET
    To: Steve Quayle
    From Doug Hagmann

    At 1750 hours ET, I was contacted by my source within the Department of Homeland Security regarding the current situation at the Bundy Ranch. To put it bluntly, the people are being hoodwinked into believing that the situation is being resolved. It is not. It is a strategic de-escalation to fool the public. This source stated that the retreat of the BLM agents and the release of the cattle was actually crafted as a potential plan yesterday (Friday, 11 April 2014) based on the following:

    1. A military assessment of satellite and drone surveillance imagery of the “patriot resistance. Drones under the control of the U.S. military were in use, taking real-time photographic images of not just the activity at the ranch, but "identifying the protesters, any arms and any supplies they might have or be carrying. “Mission accomplished.”
    2. Real-time communication intercepts between patriots on-site and their off-site support;
    3. Active monitoring of internet traffic regarding the coverage of events at ranch;
    4. The monitoring of real-time video from the scene.

    This source stated that a response by the patriot movement was anticipated, although exceeded their expectations. Although this was a real operation, they also ran this as a test case for future government operations once they saw the response. They were also actively managing the media, in some cases threatening to cut off White House access to anyone covering the event.

    Despite this, the coverage by the alternative media began to create a public relations problem that was not easily managed. Note the lack of acknowledgment by the White House regarding this event. They are intentionally framing it as a state issue, despite the fact that all federal response has been and continues to be from the White House. There is a reason for this – a reason that has not been identified in any of the public reports to date. I will explain in further detail in a follow-up report on Sunday, after this source attends [redacted] to obtain more specific information about future federal operations. Regardless, according to this source, the government will take back ‘their land’ as they must to fulfill international obligations. It was never about grazing rights or anything other than (1) “securing clear title” to the land, and (2) further demonizing any patriotic resistance. It is my understanding, based on the information from this source, that it is a critical task to create a situation that will also advance their agenda of gun control and confiscation.

    A more detailed report will follow on Sunday, 13 April 2014, with additional and much more specific information about their inside plans and future operations.PLEASE MAKE THIS VIRAL!

    Apr 12, 2014
    Source: http://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=33&d=877


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    UPDATE FROM STEVE KLEIN WHO WAS IN NEVADA, AT THE BUNDY RANCH, AS THIS WHOLE EPISODE PLAYED OUT
    Bundy Ranch episode – very, very dangerous – could have blown up many times ... very dicey ... but the Militia acted 100% properly ... and heavily armed – THIS got the sheriff’s attention ... the Sheriff and Police had been naughty bullies, bad little boys (no women cops) became VERY GOOD LITTLE BOYS ... btw ... NO women deputies, NO women cops and NO women BLM were seen ... interesting ... mmm? Just a side bar to Obama’s krazy idea of trying to put women front line infantry ... where were the girls in uniform? Hahaha ... THIS WAS MUCH TOO DANGEROUS TO BE PC ... NOT at this potential blood bath – it was intense ... NONE of the Militia were going to back down – which is Romans 13:4 ... and Nehemiah – Blessed are the PeaceMAKERS for they are the sons of God. Nehemiah never had to use his sword as he was out-numbered by the Arabians and bad guys ...

    INTELL REPORT

    Simply put ... on the Bundy Ranch – the Bundys held on all by themselves. While the Bundys were alone, by themselves - The police and BLM were very aggressive and ugly towards them, bullying them, using dogs and TAZERS against them ... oops ... that raised our Clarion Call to show up to help our People in Need

    SHERIFF AND COPS HAVE A CHANGE OF HEART: THEY REALIZED THEIR BEHAVIOR WAS IN THE OPEN ... AND MANY AMERICANS WERE ON THE WAY. THEY HAD A COME TO JESUS MOMENT ...


    Saturday at least 1,000 heavily armed and VERY POLITE, PROPERLY BEHAVED Militia did show up ... and everyone was openly heavily armed ... The Police DID THEIR JEKYLL AND HYDE ACT ... VERY POLITE to all and PROTECTED us from the Aggressive very ugly and tactically suited up BLM – who looked like our Soldier on the front lines in Afghanistan ... MILITIA: US - NO WEAPONS WERE POINTED AT ANYONE EVER ... THE MILITIA ACTED 100% PROPERLY ... JUST BEING THERE ... LIKE THE APOSTLES ... WE WENT ... JUST GO ... JUST GO ... AND THE MILITIA DID GO ... WE HELD OUR GROUND AND IT WAS OBVIOUS WE WERE NOT AFRAID AND WE WERE WILLING TO DIE TO PROTECT OUR LIBERTY , IT WAS NOW UP TO THE HIGHER LEVEL, NOT JUST PROTECTING THE BUNDYS – NO ... PROTECTING ALL AMERICANS ... IF WE LOST HERE ... THEN TYRANNY WOULD REALLY GO ON THE RAMPAGE – SHERIFF AND COPS AND BLM TOOK US 1,000% SERIOUS ...

    Redundant for emphasis - We the People, Militia, WENT ... GO ... the Sheriff CHANGED FROM EVIL TO GOOD (not the BLM ... they yearned for our blood) ... The Bundys held on bravely ... the Militia showed up ... We were able to come to help the Bundys as the Bundys behaved properly ... The Militia was a peaceful and proper use of Romans 13:4 – and FORCED the sheriff to act like a sheriff and protect the people.

    At the Gate separating the BLM from the Militia (the BLM illegally held captive about 300 of the Bundy’s Cattle ... and it was this issue ... we went to the closed gate to open it to return the Bundy’s stolen property, the cattle [estimate of 3.5 Million dollars of Cattle] – it came down to nerves ... and it could have been a blood bath ... VERY TENSE ... It was the Immovable versus the Irresistible – BLM vs. the Militia ... the Sheriff was scared to death between us ... trying to negotiate with the BLM ... NO ... We TOLD THE SHERIFF ... NO YOU WILL HAVE TO KILL US TO SHUT US UP ... Leadership changed for about 5 minutes or so from the Bundys to the Militia – and at that point of time ... those 5 minutes THE THEME CHANGED ... THE SHERIFF WAS TOLD – YOU WILL HAVE TO KILL US TO SHUT US UP ... AND WE ARE NOT AFRAID TO DIE TO PROTECT OUR CHILDREN AND GRAND CHILDREN ... This lit a fire under the Sheriff and he got very active going to the BLM and telling the ... THEIR DIRECTION HAS CHANGED FROM PROTECTING THE RANCHERS TO PROTECTING THE CONSTITUTION ... The BLM flinched and CHANGED THEIR ATTITUDE – NEHEMIAH AND BLESSED ARE THE PEACE MAKERS ...

    As soon as the BLM gave in and began leaving ... Leadership went right back to the Bundys. MILITIA; MISSION ACCOMPLISHED ... Back off and let the locals take charge ...

    When the BLM left – the Militia put down their weapons and went back home and to their jobs.

    BUT ... the BLM is a rogue bureaucracy operating under THEIR rules which are NOT made in accordance of the Constitution minus slavery – NO. The BLM and the other hundreds of federal bureaucracies, Home Land Security operate under their bizarre rules ... When these bureaucracies were created, Pentagon, EPA, Dept. of Education, FBI, CIA, BATF, etc, etc ... they were created to work IN ACCORDANCE WITH, IAW, to support We the People ... But have left this jurisdiction of authority and are rogue and out of control: Created to protect us – they now exist outside of the Rule of Law and claim they have been delegated authority by the Feds to do what they did – Originally yes ... but now they have become Frankenstein ... an out of control group of people with a regard only for their promotion and pension – MONEY ...

    Semper Fidelis for Jesus !!! Steve Klein

    Apr 13, 2014
    Source: http://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=33&d=878
    Cyrellys

    Post Mon Apr 14, 2014 8:28 am by Cyrellys

    Cyrellys

    Post Mon Apr 14, 2014 8:46 am by Cyrellys

    UPDATE FROM DOUG HAGMANN-10:31 PM EASTERN-4/13/14
    Special Note: As I stated in my report yesterday, additional information would be forthcoming today (Sunday). To those who object to the lateness of the hour for this report, it should be understood that I rely on my sources at their "convenience" (although convenience does not exist in the realm of exposing the agenda of the feds). Also, this is still a dynamic situation, meaning that federal assets and plans are still in play.

    Narrative: As indicated in my report dated yesterday, 12 April 2014, I have been in contact with my primary source within the DHS as well as a secondary source outside of the DC area on multiple occasions throughout today. It is important for people to understand that the "breakdown" of the federal exercise is nearly as methodical and time consuming as the run-up to their arrival. The situation is still fluid, and there are federal assets still being debriefed.

    Based on the information obtained from both sources who are known to this investigator but who are requesting anonymity for obvious reasons, however, the federal initiative to claim the land at the center of controversy in Nevada remains intact. Perhaps the most important information derived from both contacts is that the situation is not over. In the words of the DHS source, "they [the BLM and other support agencies] will be back."

    According to both sources, plans are being made to physically return on or about the date of the "American Spring," which is scheduled for 16 May 2014. The purpose for choosing that date or approximate time period should be obvious. The most vocal and visible leaders of the patriot movement will be busy organizing and attending the DC event. It is during this period that the BLM and support agencies, by way of their physical presence combined with court actions, is intended.

    Additionally, I was advised by a separate intelligence source that it is important for us in the patriot movement to understand that the situation is much more important to the federal government than just the visible components , or the stand-off, at the Bundy ranch alone. Consider the following:

    · The current leadership wants to create [2014] as "the summer of rage." They are astutely aware of the difference in public perception between the rural population and the urban areas, and intend to shape public perception against the patriot movement. They are already spinning the situation at the Bundy ranch into a "display of reasonableness" exhibited by the BLM, DHS and all federal agencies.

    · The current leadership is attempting to ramp up the rhetoric in the mainstream media about the dangers of the patriotic movement and the threat they posed to life, limb and liberty. Of course, this is untrue. The intent is to cast an even wider net of anti-gun ownership initiatives over those displaying such "radical" tendencies as shown at the Bundy ranch.

    · It is important to note that the intelligence source contacted by this investigator stressed that the leadership has every intention to stretch out future stand-offs and events, as such ultimately work to (or will be spun) to their benefit. It is their intent to "game the resolve and practicality of the people.

    · Additionally, it must be noted that Cliven Bundy is literally "the last man standing" in the way of this federal land grab. Over four dozen ranchers have fallen victim to the federal land grabs. Clear title to the state-owned land cannot be claimed unless and until all claims to that land, (the Bundy presence) can be removed. As many already know, the intent is for the federal government to hold clear title as collateral and ultimately conveyance to global interests. While many are aware of its value to Harry Reid and others, this is also about the resources under the ground.

    Additional updates will be provided as further data is developed from source - and not before.

    Apr 13, 2014


    Source:  http://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=33&d=881




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    50 BLACK VEHICLES REPORTED IN ROUTE TO BUNDY RANCH---WARNING
    Posted on Bundy Ranch
    ALERT From Multiple Truckers: Fleet of 50 blacked out vehicle's 40 miles
    south of the Bundy ranch heading that way. 'Like' and Share for everyone to
    know! #StandwithBundy

    Apr 13, 2014




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    I have a stinking suspicion that when and if they do come back, it will be with greater force and they need to be met with greater force
    Steve, I think we both know that this little skirmish in Bunkerville, NV is not over by a long shot. One of the articles I read made sense to me in, that with this patriot spring thing in D.C. next month, the organizers are hoping for an extremely large turnout there. This could divert most people's attention to what would be going on in D.C. and away from the Bundy ranch. If so many of the patriots are away, wouldn't that be a perfect time for the bad boys to do their thing? I'm not sure how many armed patriots actually showed up at the Bundy's but maybe a large group should stay on hand just in case the bullies try and show up again. I know it takes money and free time but, threats have been made by that bunch actually stating that "it ain't over". If possible, maybe a larger number could be there for the 2nd battle. I have a stinking suspicion that when and if they do come back, it will be with greater force and they need to be met with greater force. The government knows that those who show up in D.C. won't be armed. That means, they don't really have anything to worry about there and, it also means more agents in Gold Butte. Call me crazy but it makes sense to me. If it makes sense to you, maybe you could pass it along and see what could be done.


    Gary

    Apr 14, 2014
    Source:  http://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=33&d=882

    *************


    To put it bluntly, the people are being hoodwinked into believing that the situation is being resolved. It is not. It is a strategic de-escalation to fool the public.
    Date: Saturday, 12 April 2014
    Time: 1840 ET
    To: Steve Quayle
    From Doug Hagmann

    At 1750 hours ET, I was contacted by my source within the Department of Homeland Security regarding the current situation at the Bundy Ranch. To put it bluntly, the people are being hoodwinked into believing that the situation is being resolved. It is not. It is a strategic de-escalation to fool the public. This source stated that the retreat of the BLM agents and the release of the cattle was actually crafted as a potential plan yesterday (Friday, 11 April 2014) based on the following:

    1. A military assessment of satellite and drone surveillance imagery of the “patriot resistance. Drones under the control of the U.S. military were in use, taking real-time photographic images of not just the activity at the ranch, but "identifying the protesters, any arms and any supplies they might have or be carrying. “Mission accomplished.”
    2. Real-time communication intercepts between patriots on-site and their off-site support;
    3. Active monitoring of internet traffic regarding the coverage of events at ranch;
    4. The monitoring of real-time video from the scene.

    This source stated that a response by the patriot movement was anticipated, although exceeded their expectations. Although this was a real operation, they also ran this as a test case for future government operations once they saw the response. They were also actively managing the media, in some cases threatening to cut off White House access to anyone covering the event.

    Despite this, the coverage by the alternative media began to create a public relations problem that was not easily managed. Note the lack of acknowledgment by the White House regarding this event. They are intentionally framing it as a state issue, despite the fact that all federal response has been and continues to be from the White House. There is a reason for this – a reason that has not been identified in any of the public reports to date. I will explain in further detail in a follow-up report on Sunday, after this source attends [redacted] to obtain more specific information about future federal operations. Regardless, according to this source, the government will take back ‘their land’ as they must to fulfill international obligations. It was never about grazing rights or anything other than (1) “securing clear title” to the land, and (2) further demonizing any patriotic resistance. It is my understanding, based on the information from this source, that it is a critical task to create a situation that will also advance their agenda of gun control and confiscation.

    A more detailed report will follow on Sunday, 13 April 2014, with additional and much more specific information about their inside plans and future operations.PLEASE MAKE THIS VIRAL!

    Apr 12, 2014
    Source:  http://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=33&d=877


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    Cyrellys

    Post Mon Apr 14, 2014 10:46 am by Cyrellys

    Cyrellys wrote:

    Fox Mulder5 hours ago (edited)

    Col. Potter updates...

    He believes, from 1st hand observation, that the 20 or so BLM Hessians 'stuck' in the wash (in what is invariably a death funnel) right before the cattle-release, were meant by BLM to be their false-flagged sacrificial pawns to be slaughtered, so that the govt terrorists can spin the situation to make themselves out to be the victims & 'claim the moral high ground,' and in turn give themselves and the ever gullible idiot sheeple populace the vapid rationale, to go all Waco vs the Bundys & the patriots.

    Very plausible war-gamed option, IMO.

    He does stress that the militia were truly squared away & part of the reason why the Fed terrorists did back off (however temporary), was precisely because the militia strategically optioned the Feds out: the Feds saw the militia's positions and the force-parity in smallarms they had, and knew that they'd lose, completely.

    In essence, the Feds thought they'd be dealing with a bunch of 'weekend warriors,' not seasoned operators who meant business.

    So, indeed: contrary to some pervasive myth that the victory was "too easy," those who were on the ground with Col. Potter & co, like TacticalTony702 & HighDesertPioneer, all seem to concur that it was startegy of forcing the Feds' hands, that ruled the day.

    Plus, the Feds would not have returned all stolen cattle (sans the ones killed while in custody) back to the Bundys, if the govt terrorists thought the hostage cattle would provide them a PR win & leverage at negotiation table.

    So, it truly does look like the Fed terrorists may have indeed, been genuinely caught off guard by whom they'd be going up against.

    Big ups to AZ militia: squared-away bad ass mofos!

    Situation is still unfolding...

    Please check back with Col. Potter's channel, often.

    From his vids, it's clear that he exudes a sense of good grounding and deep sincerity; he is a solid, spiritually attuned gentleman, IMHO.

    ***********************************

    ALERT Sheriff Gillespie Seeks Slaughter: 
    Source: Comments https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilDfAqDNUe4&feature=em-uploademail





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    http://www.jrn.com/ktnv/positively-lv/Sheriff-Gillespie-receives-Congressional-Proclamation-251338201.html

    Sheriff Gillespie receives Congressional Proclamation

    CREATED Mar. 20, 2014
    Las Vegas, NV (KTNV) -- Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department Sheriff Douglas C. Gillespie was named by the National Sheriffs' Association as the winner of the prestigious Ferris E. Lucas Award for Sheriff of the Year 2014.

    Of the 3,080 sheriffs in the country, the award has only been given to 18 people since 1995.

    The award will be presented to Sheriff Gillespie on June 22 during the opening portion of the 2014 NSA Annual Conference in Ft. Worth, Texas.

    more at link.







    Cyrellys

    Post Mon Apr 14, 2014 11:22 am by Cyrellys

    Cyrellys

    Post Mon Apr 14, 2014 12:23 pm by Cyrellys

    Cyrellys

    Post Wed Apr 16, 2014 10:09 pm by Cyrellys



    OBAMA WHISTLEBLOWER PROGRAM REQUIRES WHISTLEBLOWERS TO REGISTER TO BE PROTECTED

    SOURCE: http://www.blacklistednews.com/Obama_Whistleblower_Program_Requires_Whistleblowers_to_Register_to_be_Protected/34534/0/0/0/Y/M.html

    SOURCE: ALL GOV.

    Are whistleblowers—whose anonymity is often their best protection against retribution—made safer by being forced to register as whistleblowers with the U.S. government? Or are they being placed in greater danger?

    The Obama administration is demanding they step forward and sign up.

    Indeed, exposing government corruption or other wrongdoing often means being discreet, if not anonymous, on the part of the individuals blowing the whistle, unless they want to face retribution from higher-ups involved in the misdeeds. Keeping one’s identity hidden is almost always essential for whistleblowers because of managers’ or executives’ impulse to protect themselves and punish those exposing their mistakes. Thus, any government program that requires whistleblowers to reveal themselves—ostensibly for their own good—might seem disingenuous, if not counterproductive to encouraging workers to expose law breakers.

    But the Obama administration is taking this approach by mandating that government employees register as official whistleblowers under the Insider Threat program it established three years ago. This program was adopted, the president said, to protect against internal dangers lurking within federal agencies.

    One of the biggest supporters on Capitol Hill of government whistleblowing says the Obama program’s registration requirement is a terrible idea and antithetical to the importance of whistleblowers coming forward.

    Senator Charles Grassley (R-Iowa), who coauthored the Whistleblower Protection Act of 1989 (pdf), addressed the U.S. Senate recently to commemorate the 25th anniversary of the landmark bill. During his speech, Grassley criticized Insider Threat’s effort to expose whistleblowers, citing the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) as a prime concern.

    The Republican senator said he’s been trying for months to get the FBI to share its Insider Threat training materials. But the bureau has steadfastly refused.

    At one point, the FBI’s top Insider Threat official agreed to meet with Grassley and Senator Patrick Leahy (D-Vermont) to discuss how the bureau was training its people to

    “distinguish between true insider threats and legitimate whistleblowers.”

    The official, according to Grassley’s speech, told them not to worry about the training materials, which they had failed to bring along to the meeting.

    “He said whistleblowers had to register in order to be protected, and the Insider Threat Program would know to just avoid those people,” Grassley said in his speech.

    The official then “abruptly walked out” of the meeting after being there only 10 minutes.

    “These are clearly not the actions of an agency that is genuinely open to whistleblowers or whistleblower protection,” Grassley stated.

    The senator, who has served in Congress since 1975, added that Obama’s registration requirement was an idea that “should be pretty alarming to all Americans. Sometimes confidentiality is the best protection a whistleblower has.”

    -Noel Brinkerhoff

    To Learn More:

    Chuck Grassley: Insider Threat Program Poses Threat to Whistleblowers (Emptywheel)

    Grassley Talks About the Anniversary of the Whistleblower Protection Act (Senator Charles Grassley)

    Terrorists, Spies, Whistleblowers Treated the Same by Obama Administration (by Noel Brinkerhoff, AllGov)

    Obama Anti-Whistleblower Program Requires Federal Employees to Report Suspicions of other Employees or Risk Punishment (by Noel Brinkerhoff and Danny Biederman, AllGov)





    Cyrellys

    Post Fri Apr 18, 2014 2:49 pm by Cyrellys

    This is Brilliant writing....http://taxicabdepressions.com/?p=1193 Article aptly titled THE PIG TRAP

    I first publicly remarked much the same as Taxi Hack, right here on OMFv.1 back in 2008; back before it rose to its current crescendo. I don't warn anymore. I know precisely what comes this way. I just watch.

    Cy
    Cyrellys

    Post Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:45 am by Cyrellys

    Aside from pattern discussion here:  https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t200-malaysia-flight-370-disappears#5335


    There is this:

    America Conservative 2 Conservative mail@americac2c.com via americac2c.ning.com
    8:54 AM (45 minutes ago)

    to me

    Congress Initiates Obama’s Impeachment
    by clyde
    URL: http://wp.me/p2Jq2P-gNm
    While many have speculated over the potential of impeaching Pres. Barack Obama, several members of Congress have finally filed.
    A resolution written by Rep. Tom Rice (R-SC) claims Obama should be impeached for his defiance against the Constitution. The congressman officially stated the purpose of initiating the impeachment process was to “bring a civil action for declaratory or injunctive relief to challenge certain policies and actions taken by the executive branch.”
    The most recent and notable Constitutional defiance included a range of offenses regarding the Affordable Care Act. The president has changed the language of the law as well as, processes of implementation without the consent of Congress.
    RELATED: Will Obama Force Congress To Let Him Run For Illegal 3rd Term?
    Rice wrote, “President Obama has adopted a practice of picking and choosing which laws he wants to enforce. In most cases, his laws of choice conveniently coincide with his Administration’s political agenda. Our Founding Fathers created the Executive Branch to implement and enforce the laws written by Congress and vested this power in the President. However, President Obama has chosen to ignore some of the laws written by Congress and implemented by preceding Presidents.”
    So far, the impeachment proceedings have garnered support from 29 members of Congress.
    Here is a list of those supporting Pres. Obama’s impeachment: Bachmann (MN), Bridenstine (OK), Chaffetz (UT), J. Duncan (SC), DeSantis (FL), Franks (AZ), Gowdy (SC), Harris (MD), Lamborn (CO), LaMalfa (CA), Marino (PA), McClintock (CA), Meadows (NC), Nunnelee (MS), Pittenger (NC), Posey (FL), Tom Price (GA), Ribble (WI), Salmon (AZ), Sanford (SC), Schweikert (AZ), Stewart (UT), Stockman (TX), Walberg (MI), Weber (TX), Wenstrup (OH), Williams (TX), Joe Wilson (SC), and Yoho (FL).
    http://americanoverlook.com/congress-initiates-president-obamas-imp...

    Eric Holder Impeachment Proceedings Begin
    by clyde
    URL: http://wp.me/p2Jq2P-gPL
    Republicans have officially moved to impeach Attorney General Eric Holder.
    Yesterday, Rep. Pete Olson (R-TX) introduced an Articles of Impeachment resolution against Holder for his involvement in many of Pres. Barack Obama’s scandals, including Operation Fast and Furious.
    There are a total of eight congressmen currently supporting the resolution—
    Larry Bucshon (R-IN)
    Blake Farenthold (R-TX)
    Phil Roe (R-TN)
    Lynn Westmoreland (R-GA)
    Roger Williams (R-TX)
    Ted Yoho (R-FL)
    Randy Weber (R-TX)


    *****

    "Cuchulainn saw in the distance over the heads
    of the four provinces of Ireland the fiery flickering
    of gold weapons in the evening sunset clouds."


    -- From The Tain Bo Cuailnge (IX - The Pact is Broken)

    Cyrellys
    Cyrellys

    Post Tue Apr 22, 2014 11:59 am by Cyrellys

    Rumour?: U.S. Chief Justice Roberts “Signed Off On Interpol To Arrest And Remove Obama on 25 Charges of Treason”.
    Saturday, April 19, 2014 23:19

    Source:  http://beforeitsnews.com/politics/2014/04/rumor-u-s-chief-justice-roberts-signed-off-on-interpol-to-arrest-and-remove-obama-on-25-charges-of-treason-2615324.html

    (Before It's News)
    See also Editor’s Pick Beforeitsnews/alert-obama-coup-detat-come-easter-sunday

    “Since obama reneged on his resignation, all offers of safe haven throughout the world have been removed.
    “Obama will be prosecuted for multiple counts of treason to the fullest extent.”
    Charges of Treason against Obama including 2nd Amendment infringements, declaring war without consent of Congress and misuse of Posse Comitatus in the Bundly Land Management case…
    Picture: John Roberts

    Obama took the Presidential Oath, swearing to “.. preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States” but has: Article 1, Sect. 1
    1. Used Executive Privilege in regards to Fast & Furious gun running scandal. When Government misconduct is the concern Executive privilege is negated.
    2. Issued 23 Executive Orders on gun control – infringement of the 2nd Amendment.
    3. Executive Order bypassing Congress on immigration – Article 1 Section 1, ALL Legislative power held by Congress.
    4. NDAA – Section 1021. Due process Rights negated. Violation of 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, and 7th Amendments. White House: ‘War on terrorism’ is over Thursday, August 6, 2009
    5. Executive Order 13603 NDRP – Government can seize anything.
    6. Executive Order 13524 – Gives INTERPOL jurisdiction on American soil beyond law enforcement agencies, including the FBI.
    7. Executive Order 13636 Infrastructure Cyber security – Bypassing Congress
    Violations: Article 1 Section 1, Art. 4 sect. 4,
    8. Signed into law the establishment of “NO Free Speech Zones” – noncompliance is a felony.
    9. Attempt to tax political contributions –
    1st. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
    Article I Section 7. All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills.
    Violations: 1st Amendment, Art.1 sect. 7
    10. Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) Law – Obama directed DOJ ( Dept. of Justice ) to ignore the Constitution and separation of powers and not enforce the law.
    Violations:
    Article III, Section 3 – Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court. The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attained. White House: ‘War on terrorism’ is over Thursday, August 6, 2009
    11. Drone strikes on American Citizens – 5th Amendment Due process Rights negated.
    Article II Section 2. The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any Subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.
    [The Trading with the Enemy Act (Public Law 65-91, 65th Congress, Session I, Chapters 105, 106, October 6, 1917) ] 18 USC 241 – Sec. 241
    Violations : Art. 2 sect.2 , 5th amendment, 18 USC 241 – Sec. 241
    12. Bypassed Congress and gave EPA power to advance Cap-n-Trade
    Article I Section 1. All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.
    Violations: Art. 1 Sect. 1
    13. Attempt for Graphic tobacco warnings (under appeal) –
    Art. 1 sect. 8 Section 8. The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defense and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States; (see list)
    1st Amendment. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
    Violations: 1st Amendment. Art. 1 sect. 8
    14. Four Executive appointments – Senate was NOT in recess (Court has ruled unconstitutional yet the appointees still remain)
    Art. 1 sect 2 Section 2. The House of Representatives shall be composed of Members chosen every second Year by the People of the several States, and the Electors in each State shall have the Qualifications requisite for Electors of the most numerous Branch of the State Legislature.
    Art. 1 sect . 5 Each House shall be the Judge of the Elections, Returns and Qualifications of its own Members, and a Majority of each shall constitute a Quorum to do Business; but a smaller Number may adjourn from day to day, and may be authorized to compel the Attendance of absent Members, in such Manner, and under such Penalties as each House may provide.
    Violations: Art. 1 sect 2 & 5 ,
    15. Obama took Chairmanship of UN Security Council -
    Art 1 Sect. 9. Section 9. The Migration or Importation of such Persons as any of the States now existing shall think proper to admit, shall not be prohibited by the Congress prior to the Year one thousand eight hundred and eight, but a Tax or duty may be imposed on such Importation, not exceeding ten dollars for each Person.
    Violation : Art 1 Sect. 9.
    16. Obamacare ( A.C.A. ) mandate – SCOTUS (U.S. SupremeCourt ) had to make it a tax because there is no Constitutional authority.
    Art. 2 sect. 1 Before he enter on the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation:–”I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”
    Violations : Art. 2 sect. 1 , Amendments 1, 2, 9, 10, & 14, Art. 1 sect. 7
    18. Healthcare waivers – No president has dispensing powers
    1st. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
    2nd. A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
    9th. The enumeration in the Constitution (narrative), of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
    10th. The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
    14th. The Fourteenth Amendment, guaranteeing equal protection for all citizens, was necessary to secure for freed slaves the same rights as whites. Simply ending slavery was not enough. Prior to the Civil War, it was automatic in many states to treat blacks, whatever their status, as second-class citizens. A ruling by a court in Virginia in 1824 stated, without any effort at dissimulation, that, “And, yet, nobody has ever questioned the power of the legislature to deny to free blacks and mulattoes one of the fist privileges of a citizen — that of voting at election.”
    Art 1: Sect. 7 All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills.
    Violations: 1st, 2, 9,10, & 14th Amendment, Art 1: Sect. 7
    19. Refuses to acknowledge state’s 10th Amendment rights to nullify Obamacare ( Affordable Care Act ) .
    Article I Section 1. All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.
    Violation: Art. 1 sect. 1 , Art. 2. sect. 1 , 10th Amendment
    20. Congress did not approve Obama’s war in Libya. Article I, Section 8, First illegal war U.S. has engaged in. Impeachable under Article II, Section 4. Obama falsely claims UN can usurp Congressional war powers.
    Violations: Article I, Section 8, Art.2 sect. 1
    21. Obama has acted outside the constitutional power given him – this in itself is unconstitutional.
    Violations: Art. 2 sect 1
    22. With the approval of Obama, the NSA and the FBI are tapping directly into the servers of 9 internet companies to gain access to emails, video/audio, photos, documents, etc. This program is code named PRISM. NSA also collecting data on all phone calls in U.S. Violation of 4th Amendment.
    Violations: 4th Amendment.
    23. Plans to sign U.N. Firearms treaty – 2nd Amendment.
    Violation: 2nd ,4th, 9th, 10th , & 14TH Amendment, Art.1 Sect. 4 , Art. 2 sect. 1
    24. The Senate/Obama immigration bill (approved by both) raises revenue – Section 7. All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives;
    Violations: Art. 1 sect 4th, 7 , & 8th, Art. 2 sect. 1, Art. 4 sect. 4,
    25. Obama refuses to uphold the Business Mandate Law (ACA) for a year. President does not have that authority – Article. I. Section. 1. All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States. The president ”shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed” Article II, Section 3. posted on popular forum tonight
    Posted by Midwest at 1:42 am
    http://dinartruthmatrix.net/
    Posted by John MacHaffie at 10:09 PM
    intel-rumors-update-4-18-judge-roberts-signed-off-on-interpol-to-arrest-and-remove-obama-action-expected-this-weekend

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    Bundy Ranch: Martial Law Prelude – FEMA Source – FEDS Hope For ‘Event’
    Tuesday, April 22, 2014 4:36

    Source: http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2014/04/bundy-ranch-martial-law-prelude-more-planned-this-year-fema-source-2942950.html

    (Before It's News) Posted by Live Free or Die

    According to John Moore’s FEMA source, the US govt’s beta-test at Bundy Ranch will be followed up by several more this year in America. Building up as a prelude to martial law, we’re warned the FEDS won’t back down so easily the next time as the govt is hoping for some kind of ‘event’ where they can institute martial law and further crack down upon the masses.

    Sharing that Bundy Ranch gave the federal government the opportunity to test most of their electronic surveillance systems under real-time conditions, those who are paying attention can see that the DHS order of 25 million more rounds of shotgun shells and America being sold down the river to China are all related to the eventual ‘end of America’ and the NWO making war upon the American people.


    ******

    More: https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t200p15-malaysia-flight-370-disappears#5337
    Cyrellys

    Post Wed Apr 23, 2014 1:28 pm by Cyrellys

    Cy Commentary: on the email below regarding Podesta Group, Ukraine and BP

    WE watching the fantastic end of the pool know where Podesta stands wrt Contact.  With that lens it is interesting to regard the players involved in the latest hijinx especially when we take into account the events of January and February back channel internet discussion between comm assets.  (see my posts from that period).

    The email I recvd this morning gives a view of the connection to the Ukraine situation.  See below enclosed.

    So when you look up Viktor Yanukovich you get an additional viewing point of the latest games.  It's like a who's who of the January/February events.  

    One of the things that caught my eye was mention of Yulia Tymoshenko, who was recently the subject of a leaked conversation in which she is heard making a statement about nuking 8 million Russians in the Ukraine and then attempted claiming she didn't say that via Twitter.  http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2014/04/yulia-tymoshenko-caught-in-the-act-2930004.htm  l


    Stephen Lendman quoting Yulia Tymoshenko leaked conversation in Article from TheSleuthJournal wrote:If she was in charge, she said, “there would be no f…ing way that they would get Crimea then.”


    Shufrych said Ukraine “didn’t have any force potential” to keep Crimea. Tymoshenko said she would have found “a way to kill those katsaps.”


    “I hope I will be able to get all my connections involved. And I will use all of my means to make the entire world raise up, so that there wouldn’t be even a scorched field left in Russia,” she added.


    Referring to Putin, she said she’s ready to “grab a machine gun and shoot that m…erf…er in the head.”



    Wikipedia excerpt on Yanukovich wrote:Presidency (2010–2014)[edit]
    Inauguration[edit]
    Ukraine's parliament had (on 16 February) fixed 25 February 2010 for the inauguration of Yanukovych as president.[58] Ukrainian President Viktor Yushchenkosigned a decree endorsing a plan of events related to Yanukovych's inauguration on 20 February 2010.[59] Yushchenko also congratulated and wished Yanukovych "to defend Ukrainian interests and democratic traditions" at the presidential post.[60]
    Patriarch Kirill of Moscow and All Rus at Yanukovych's invitation conducted a public prayer service at Kiev Pechersk Lavra before Yanukovych's presidential inauguration.[61] Patriarch Kirill also attended the inauguration[62] along with High Representative of the Union for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy Catherine AshtonUnited States National Security Advisor James Jones and speaker of the Russian parliament Boris Gryzlov.[63][64]
    Yanukovych's immediate predecessor, Yushchenko, did not attend the ceremony, nor did the Prime Minister, Yulia Tymoshenko, and her party, Bloc Yulia Tymoshenko.[65]
    The event was attended by many foreign dignitaries.[66]
    First days[edit]
    On 3 March 2010, Yanukovych suspended his membership in the Party of Regions as he was barred by the Constitutionfrom heading a political party while president,[67] and handed over leadership in the party and its parliamentary faction toMykola Azarov.[68]
    On new alliances
    Yanukovych said, "Ukraine's integration with the EU remains our strategic aim", with a "balanced policy, which will protect our national interests both on our eastern border – I mean with Russia – and of course with the European Union".[69][70]According to Yanukovych, Ukraine must be a "Neutral state" which should be part of a "collective defence system which the European Union, NATO and Russia will take part in." Yanukovych wants Ukraine to "neither join NATO nor the CSTO".[71] He stated on 7 January 2010 that Ukraine is ready to consider an initiative by Dmitry Medvedev on the creation of a new Europe collective security system[71] stating "And we're ready to back Russia's and France's initiatives".[72] Yanukovych stated during the 2010 presidential election-campaign that the current level of Ukraine's cooperation with NATO is sufficient and that the question of the country's accession to the alliance is therefore not urgent.[72] "The Ukrainian people don't currently support Ukraine's entry to NATO and this corresponds to the status that we currently have. We don't want to join any military bloc".[72] On 27 May 2010 President Yanukovych stated he considered Ukraine's relations with NATO as a partnership, "And Ukraine can't live without this [partnership], because Ukraine is a large country".[73]
    In early November 2011, Yankukovych claimed that "arms are being bought in the country and armed attacks on government agencies are being prepared."[74] These claims were met with disbelief.[74]

    From Cy's Email wrote:RE: Podesta Group and Ukraine and BP

    Sir David <----------->
    11:44 PM (11 hours ago)

    to
    Here is an interesting list as to who is who in criminal activity.
    For those, who do not know the Clintonistas control Wal-Mart.
    And then look at what is stated about Ukraine.
    There is a lot of money exchanging hands, listed below.


    -------- Original Message --------
    Subject: Fwd: Podesta Group and Ukraine and BP
    Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 10:47:32 -0400
    From: robert
    To: sirdavid@---------

    Podesta Group – Tony and John

    The Podesta Group is a lobbying and public affairs firm based in Washington, D.C.. It was founded in 1988 by brothers John Podesta and Tony Podesta and has previously been known as Podesta Associates, podesta.com and PodestaMattoon.[1][2][3] The firm most recently reorganized in January 2007 after current Chairman Tony Podesta split with former business partner Dan Mattoon.[4]

    Podesta Group represents U.S. corporations, as well as non-profits, associations and governments.[5] It "has close ties to the Democratic Party and the Obama administration."[6]

    The firm reported earning $27.4 million in lobbying fees in 2011.[7] In 2007, Chairman Tony Podesta was ranked by his peers as the third most influential lobbyist in Washington.[8]
    The Podesta Group has been retained by Wal-Mart, BP and Lockheed Martin.
    They also received revenue of $900,000 over the last two years from the "European Centre for a Modern Ukraine....
    Selected clients

    Tony Podesta with Senator Kay Hagan and husband Chip at a 2009 party hosted by Podesta Group

    The Podesta Group has been retained by Wal-Mart, BP and Lockheed Martin.[6] Other clients include Abdisalam Omer, the American Coalition for Clean Coal Electricity, Amgen, Bank Of America, Cherokee Nation (Casinos), Cintas, Covidien, Duke Energy, Egypt, Genentech, General Dynamics, Harrah's Entertainment, Heineken, Merck, Michelin, National Association of Broadcasters (NAB), National Public Radio (NPR), Nestle, Novartis, Orange County, Florida, Raytheon, Reed Elsevier, Republic of Albania, Republic of Georgia, Sallie Mae, Sunoco, Synthetic Genomics, TJX Companies, Tyco Electronics, and United Technologies.[9][10][11]

    In addition, the Podesta Group acts as a lobbyist for Egypt on U.S. policies of concern, activities in Congress and the Executive branch, aThey also received revenue of $900,000 over the last two years from the "European Centre for a Modern Ukrainend developments on the U.S. political scene generally,' according to forms filed with the Justice Department in 2009."[6][12]

    They also received revenue of $900,000 over the last two years from the "European Centre for a Modern Ukraine, a Brussels-based organization sympathetic to Yanukovich and his political party".[13]
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Podesta_Group


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    August 28, 2013, 02:14 pm
    Report: Top DC lobbyist Podesta retains Landrieu's husband as realtor

    Sen. Mary Landrieu's (D-La.) husband is slated to benefit financially from real-estate dealings with a lobbyist whose firm often has business before the senator.
    Tony Podesta, cofounder of the Podesta Group, has retained Frank Snellings, Landrieu's husband, to sell the Capitol Hill townhouse where he hosts prominent fundraisers and receptions, according to a report in the Washington Examiner.

    Podesta bought the house in 2009 for $1.57 million, and Snellings served as his agent then. The house is now listed at $1.89 million, and the Examiner reports Snellings would be slated to receive a fee of around $50,000 from Podesta for the sale, according to the typical 3 percent fee due to the listing agent.
    Podesta's firm has a number of clients with business before Landrieu. Its biggest client, Lockheed Martin, is one of the biggest contractors for the Department of Homeland Security — a department over which Landrieu, as chairwoman of the Appropriations Homeland Security subcommittee, has some influence.
    A Landrieu aide pushed back against the suggestion that the relationship was inappropriate, however, pointing out Tony Podesta and his group have not lobbied Landrieu on BP or Lockheed Martin.
    http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/senate-races/319123-report-podesta-group-head-hires-landrieu-husband-as-realtor


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    Mr. Podesta still resembles the type of lobbying-connected insider that Mr. Obama claimed during his first run for president would be restrained from access to the White House. Mr. Podesta’s brother, Tony, runs a prominent D.C. lobbying firm. The two brothers founded the Podesta Group in 1987, but a representative said John Podesta hasn’t been associated with the firm since 1993, when he left to work in the Clinton White House.
    Still John Podesta remains close to his brother, so much so that a recent Federal Election Commission donation record mistakenly listed him as a vice president of his brother’s firm.
    Tony Podesta’s firm has experienced a business boom since Mr. Obama took office. According to information from the Center for Responsive Politics, the firm’s income went from more than $10 million in 2007 to almost $30 million by 2010. This year, revenue is estimated to be around $20 million.

    The Podesta Group is retained by some top businesses and industries that have a lot to gain from favorable government policy, including BP PLC, Wal-Mart, Boeing and Lockheed Martin.


    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/dec/11/john-podestas-return-to-white-house-will-test-obam/?page=all

    So here is the latest wrt Hillary & Podesta strand:

    Before Its News - wrote:BOMBSHELL! Former CIA Officer Testifies That Obama ‘Switched Sides’ In War On Terror In Libya
    It makes a lot of difference, Hillary
    The Citizens Commission on Benghazi, a self-selected group of former top military officers, CIA insiders and think-tankers, declared Tuesday in Washington that a seven-month review of the deadly 2012 terrorist attack has determined that it could have been prevented – if the U.S. hadn’t been helping to arm al-Qaeda militias throughout Libya a year earlier.
    Uncommon Thoughts on Common Things - Cyrellys - Page 17 Obama-switched-sides-in-war-on-terror-libya-benghazi-coverup-hillary-clinton-what-difference-does-it-make-e1398229275986

    The Citizens Committee on Benghazi released its interim findings on April 22, 2014 in Washington. Pictured are (L-R) Clare Lopez, Admiral (Ret.) Chuck Kubic, Admiral (Ret.) James ‘Ace’ Lyons, former CIA officer Wayne Simmons and civil rights attorney John Clarke.
    ‘The United States switched sides in the war on terror with what we did in Libya, knowingly facilitating the provision of weapons to known al-Qaeda militias and figures,’ Clare Lopez, a member of the commission and a former CIA officer, told MailOnline.
    She blamed the Obama administration for failing to stop half of a $1 billion United Arab Emirates arms shipment from reaching al-Qaeda-linked militants.
    ‘Remember, these weapons that came into Benghazi were permitted to enter by our armed forces who were blockading the approaches from air and sea,’ Lopez claimed. ‘They were permitted to come in. … [They] knew these weapons were coming in, and that was allowed.

    Then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton told the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in January 23 that it mattered little why the Benghazi diplomatic compound was attacked: ‘What difference, at this point, does it make?’

    ‘The intelligence community was part of that, the Department of State was part of that, and certainly that means that the top leadership of the United States, our national security leadership, and potentially Congress – if they were briefed on this – also knew about this.’
    The weapons were intended for Gaddafi but allowed by the U.S. to flow to his Islamist opposition.
    ‘The White House and senior Congressional members,’ the group wrote in an interim report released Tuesday, ‘deliberately and knowingly pursued a policy that provided material support to terrorist organizations in order to topple a ruler [Muammar Gaddafi] who had been working closely with the West actively to suppress al-Qaeda.’
    ‘Some look at it as treason,’ said Wayne Simmons, a former CIA officer who participated in the commission’s research. Retired Rear Admiral Chuck Kubic, another commission member, told reporters Tuesday that those weapons are now ‘all in Syria.’ source – Daily Mail UK

    The post BOMBSHELL! Former CIA Officer Testifies That Obama ‘Switched Sides’ In War On Terror In Libya appeared first on Now The End Begins.


    Source: http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/?p=19024
    Source: http://beforeitsnews.com/global-unrest/2014/04/bombshell-former-cia-officer-testifies-that-obama-switched-sides-in-war-on-terror-in-libya-2458834.html


    And that isn't all the other group, Obama & Co. are sending Paratroopers to a place near Ukraine  still trying to instigate WWIII which would hide the economic collapse, ties up Putin, and enable a martial law prior to unambiguous contact event enabling a potential depopulation event here in the US prior to the arrival of the ETs who said DON'T!  

    http://beforeitsnews.com/war-and-conflict/2014/04/a-step-closer-to-ww3-obama-sends-paratroopers-to-poland-2451808.html

    http://www.marketwatch.com/story/us-sends-troops-near-russia-as-ukraine-tensions-build-2014-04-23

    http://investmentwatchblog.com/pentagon-moves-to-thwart-russia-american-troops-arrive-in-poland/

    As you can see in the economic blogs above the money guys are watching this pretty closely

    Billionaire Warns: Yellen Collapse 'Will Be Unlike Any Other': In a recent interview with The New York Times, he calls Federal Reserve Chair Janet Yellen 'ignorant' and said the Federal Reserve all but killed the economic recovery.
    http://www.moneynews.com/MKTNews/economic-JanetYellen-stockbust/2014/03/26/id/561923/#ixzz2xkTF4LEuGLY

    I suppose I can understand their concern since as of this date there's 28 dead bodies piled up in this wrangling with control and the old guard plans at stake - remember Quayles source V's testimony?  15 more heads to add to the pile. http://plazilla.com/page/4295131264/dead-banker-nr-17-is-belgian


    • Lavrov: US should face responsibility for powers it installed in Kiev 
    • About the Ebola outbreak  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvblnVMh2wA
    • Reid And China Betray Clinton And Rothschild’s Over Bundy Ranch _Col. Potter
    • Russian Warships Coming To US Backyard - Why Are They REALLY Coming Here?
    • THE WEST MARCHES EAST: THE U.S.-NATO STRATEGY TO ISOLATE RUSSIA
    Cyrellys

    Post Wed Apr 23, 2014 8:09 pm by Cyrellys

    Rules And Why They Don't Apply To You
    http://www.newamericanman.com/rules-and-why-they-dont-apply-to-you/

    Posted by Viper

    Do you drive the speed limit?  Come to a complete stop at stop signs?  Park in a loading zone because you’ll “just be a minute”?  Pay your taxes honestly and on time?  How many other rules do you intentionally break out of a sense of convenience, entitlement, or because you deem them to be irrelevant, unjust, or inapplicable?  We all bend or break the rules our society foists on us, each and every day.  We usually do so because we think they’re “little” rules, and there won’t be any real consequence of breaking them.  Clearly, we have a mindset that allows us to pick and choose the rules we’ll abide by, as long as they’re trivial and we don’t get in trouble.
    So you have to ask yourself: why do you feel okay breaking the little rules, but fear breaking the big ones?  What is it that scares you so much about taking a stand when something more than your time and convenience are at stake?  For most, it’s the consequences.  You’re unwilling to break the big rules because you fear the consequences.
    If your personal code aligns with those big rules, that’s a perfectly acceptable situation.  You’ve got no reason to break those rules.  But what if your personal code dictates you behave contrary to those rules?  In that case, you’re faced with a choice: abide by the rules and live the life of a hypocrite, change your code, or break the rules.
    The problem is that some rules cross lines that you cannot abide being crossed.  Worse, some rules aren’t even rules: they’re just people using assumed authority and threat of force to intimidate you into submission.  An excellent recent example of this is the incident at Cliven Bundy’s ranch.  The link I included is a somewhat neutral summary of the situation, though if you do any research, you’ll find a great deal more that wasn’t mentioned in that story, such as the government placing snipers on hilltops, the government shooting or running his cattle to death and then dumping them in mass graves, and so on.  But the important point to be made here is that this is the story of a family (and, by extension, a whole lot of other people) who decided they’d had enough of being pushed around and, right or wrong, stood up for what they believed in.  Based on the response from thousands of people, both local and remote, who traveled to his ranch to stand by him (some taking up their own sniper positions, just in case), there are plenty of other people who have had enough as well.  It doesn’t matter whose side you take on this particular incident; what matters is the recognition that there are lines in the sand past which individuals will not be pushed, regardless of the consequences.  Those lines differ for each person, but we all have them.  It’s important to learn where your lines are, and understand how you’ll react when faced with that situation, because there will be consequences.
    John Parker understood this at the Battle of Lexington when he told his men, “Stand your ground. Don’t fire unless fired upon, but if they mean to have a war, let it begin here.”  The consequence was the beginning of the Revolutionary War.  Without men unwilling to bow to the threat of force, this country wouldn’t exist.  It was men — average, everyday men, who’d had all they could take — who decided that their principles overrode the rules imposed on them by England, and gave us the chance to live free.
    Don’t squander it.  Don’t be one of the flock.  Live by your principles.  Act according to your beliefs in all things, big and small.  Be a wolf.
    Cyrellys

    Post Wed May 14, 2014 9:44 am by Cyrellys

    There's  been a tremendous amount of events since my last post.  It is not that I didn't have anything to post or that I was done posting.  It is more that I tend to freeze and listen carefully when I find a new threshold being crossed.

    Anyway,

    Cyrellys

    Post Thu May 15, 2014 11:52 am by Cyrellys

    One of those must read thangs....it is loaded with info on 'mind-war'.

    https://eliasalias.com/2014/05/05/reflections-on-oas/

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