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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by spacemaverick Thu Mar 13, 2014 1:24 pm

    First topic message reminder :

    http://www.latimes.com/world/asia/la-fg-malaysia-crash-20140311,0,6832992.story#axzz2vczO7eCV

    It seems to have just disappeared. What happened to this flight? The above article even says:

    "BEIJING — Despite a wealth of technology, crews trying to find the missing Malaysia Airlines jetliner must cover a large swath of the South China Sea that varies widely in depth and is subject to fast-moving currents that could carry debris more than 50 miles a day, experts say."

    I have seen pieces of a plane float but the South China Sea is large with many currents....curious...why did it suddenly disappear? No trace?



    The same guy that showed the first video says he has caught flight radar changing the path of the flight.



    Then possible hijack:



    Cellphone issues:



    Stolen passports:



    Then this from Intellihub:

    http://intellihub.com/flight-mh370-made-turn-back-last-tracked-straights-malacca-1-hour-transponder-shutdown/
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    http://rt.com/news/satellite-image-malaysia-plane-426/

    Could China satellites have found pieces of the missing plane?

    Seems like they have had the images since Sunday. Who is coordinating this search anyway? I'll fish around some more.
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    Terror probe launched by Malaysia.

    http://rt.com/news/malaysia-plane-missing-crash-766/

    Malaysia has launched a terror probe into the disappearance of the Malaysia Airlines passenger plane which vanished from radars en route from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing while carrying 239 people on Saturday. Debris from the jet has reportedly been spotted.

    The massive search operation for the Boeing 777, which has been ongoing for about two days, might have brought forth its first results, with possible debris from the aircraft reportedly found in the sea off the coast of south Vietnam.

    “We received information from a Vietnamese plane saying that they found two broken objects, which seem like those of an aircraft, located about 50 miles (80 kilometers) to the south-west of Tho Chu Island,” an unnamed official from the National Committee for Search and Rescue told AFP. “As it is night they cannot fish them out for proper identification. They have located the position of the areas and flown back to the land.”

    These objects are believed to be a piece of the jetliner’s tail and part of its inner door, The Wall Street Journal reported.

    But, a US team involved in the search operation in the South China Sea refuted reports that the debris found belonged to the missing plane, Vietnam’s Tuoi Tre news reported.

    According to the US embassy representative in Hanoi, Jacky Ly Thang, the American team carried out an investigation and concluded that the object found 100 kilometers southwest of the Vietnamese island of Tho Chu has no connection to the missing aircraft.

    Above has been taken directly from the RT article.
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    http://news.msn.com/world/malaysia-no-engine-data-after-plane-went-missing


    Experts say that if the plane crashed into the ocean then some debris should be floating on the surface even if most of the jet is submerged. Past experience shows that finding the wreckage can take weeks or even longer, especially if the location of the plane is in doubt.

    The hunt has been punctuated by false leads, the latest Thursday when planes were sent to search the area where Chinese satellite images published on a Chinese government website showed "three suspected floating objects" of varying sizes in a 20-kilometer (12-mile) radius off the southern tip of Vietnam.

    "There is nothing. We went there, there is nothing," Azharuddin said.

    In the latest in a series of confusing events, he later said the Chinese Embassy had notified the government that the images were released by mistake and did not show any debris from Flight 370.

    Malaysia's air force chief said Wednesday that an unidentified object appeared on military radar records about 200 miles (320 kilometers) northwest of Penang, Malaysia, and experts are analyzing the data in an attempt to determine whether the blip is the missing plane.
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    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2579524/Hijacked-hidden-US-counter-terror-officials-fear-plane-captured-debris-spotted-Chinese-ruled-new-data-reveals-airborne-FOUR-hours-vanishing.html

    Well now...a new wrinkle in this saga. We are now told that the aircraft was still airborne for 4 hours after it vanished. Still, nobody knows the truth. It will be interesting to know what really happened. Starting to wonder if someone knows the truth and are not telling. No, that wouldn't happen now would it? (sarcasm intended)
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    Okay, here is some additional information. Once again none of this is proven but this scenario could be more frightening not knowing what the purpose of hijacking an airliner would be. Flying a nuclear device over a country, exploding said device to create an electromagnetic pulse on the ground. If this is a hijack, this would be my theory of what it could be used for and this scenario frightens me to be honest with you.

    http://intellihub.com/malaysian-airliner-may-commandeered-taken-secret-coco-island-base-new-info-reveals-plane-flew-4-hours-transponder-deactivated/

    Apparently the group, likely militarized, who commandeered the jetliner and it’s 239 occupants, didn’t account for the Boeing company’s automatic maintenance download which successfully transferred data from the missing aircraft to Boeing’s database about 5-hours after the triple-seven’s takeoff. This data transfer did happen and has been confirmed by Boeing officials.



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    Post by Cyrellys Tue Apr 22, 2014 11:58 am

    International Investigators: MH370 Landed, Didn’t Crash Into Ocean.
    Tuesday, April 22, 2014 5:53




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    Those who have read my blog thread know about the tracking/discovery of deliveries across the US of guillotines.

    Cy

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    All evidence points to the plane landing. It uploaded the 7th ping, which is done after landing, taxi, and engine shutdown in accordance with SITA’s ACARS requirements. Also, of 4 Emergency Locator Transmitters not one of them has been heard from, which would also point to the plane landing. And why would someone go through so much trouble to hijack a plane, avoid radar, turn off transponders, just to fly it into the ocean?? Now, finally after 45 days of misdirection, they are considering these facts?
    “International team searching for the possible debris of the missing Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 has now finally conceded that the plane might not really have crashed in the Indian Ocean after all.
    What this means is that, the International team will now focus its attention to and take seriously, the various theories and rumors doing its rounds in the Internet that the plane could have been actually hijacked and landed somewhere.”
    http://www.ibtimes.co.in/articles/549068/20140422/missing-malaysia-plane-mh370-landed-somewhere-crash.htm#.U1Zi2CgTJug.twitter
    Can we finally search Diego Garcia and the Maldive area, since the distance flown would have put it there?
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    With all the internation attention, Diego Garcia is now back in the legal spotlight too.
    “The U.K.’s sovereignty over the Chagos Islands and the American lease on military base Diego Garcia–which has been subjected to Malaysia Airlines conspiracy theories in recent days–could be called into question.”
    http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/634034-diego-garcia-dispute-international-court-to-rule-on-claim-could-end-us-base-there/


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    And more about that new Industry Base:  microchipping the population and genetic command & control

    Obamacare The Long Arm Of Agenda 21 And The New World Order, Questions, Facts, Answers (Video)
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    By Josey Wales
     
    One of the categories in ICD-9 is this one: “Legal execution: All executions performed at the behest of the judiciary or ruling authority (whether permanent or temporary) as: asphyxiation by gas, beheading, decapitation (by guillotine), capital punishment, electrocution, hanging, poisoning, shooting, other specified means.”
     
    These codes were not created by Obamacare, however Obamacare is trying to implement every American citizen under international codes to link us to the “international” system. These codes were actually created by the WHO (World Health Organization) . The WHO is a specialized agency of the United Nations.
     
    ICD 9 E 978 “Legal Execution
    All executions performed at the behest of the judiciary or ruling authority [whether permanent or temporary] as:



    • asphyxiation by gas
    • beheading, decapitation (by guillotine)
    • capital punishment
    • electrocution
    • hanging
    • poisoning
    • shooting
    • other specified means
    • INJURY UNDETERMINED WHETHER ACCIDENTALLY OR PURPOSELY
    • INFLICTED

     
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    According to reports, more than 68,105 new medical codes are being added due to the Obamacare monstrosity. Doctors all across the nation have been complaining due to the overwhelming burden it places upon them.
     
    Just the time consumption alone, making sure these codes are accurate, will inevitably take time away from the doctor/patient relationship creating a barrier of paperwork while destroying the personal experience with your doctor.
     
    While these doctors are correct to state it will be even more of a burden, they are not correct to state this has come out of Obamacare itself. Let me explain.
     
     

     
    This is one explanation for these codes, but as you will see this only raises more questions. 
     
    Writing for About.com, Trisha Torrey explains that “ICD” codes are “International Statistical Classifications of Diseases.” The codes are used to categorize every disease, set of symptoms or cause of death that can be attributed to human beings.
     
    The coding system was developed by the World Health Organization, the coordinating authority for health in the United Nations. As electronic medical records are implemented, the codes will be used for diagnosis and treatment of health problems.
     
    When someone dies, an ICD code will also be used to record the cause of death. This is where Anderson’s code for “legal execution” comes in. The code will obviously be used when a person has been executed “at the behest of the judiciary or ruling authority [whether permanent or temporary].”
     
    Even though “beheading” and “decapitation (by guillotine)” are not legal methods of execution for the federal government or any of the 50 states, beheading is still legal in Saudi Arabia. Additionally, rebels in Syriaand the Taliban in Pakistan (possibly a temporary authority in areas that they control) have been known to use beheading, as did Saddam Hussein in pre-war Iraq.
     
    Other Islamic terrorists have also been known to behead their captives. In one notable case, Nick Berg, an American business who was Jewish, was kidnapped and beheaded by Iraqi Muslim terrorists in 2004 and the video of the murder was posted online. There is much speculation that Barack Obama is a Muslim, if he is this is even more concerning.
     
    What questions that need to be asked and answered are:
     
    Why has the United States been subjected to “International Medical Coding” without our knowledge?
     
    Why are we allowing “coding” that goes against our principles and constitution?
     
    Why do we have a code for “Legal Execution” which is illegal in America? With the exception of those given the death penalty after trial by jury.
     
    When did the Department of Homeland Security find out about this coding? Why haven’t they addressed this (since they are supposed to protect the people)?
     
    Why is DHS sending any kind of “Medical Coding” to the states?
     
    Why haven’t the doctors spoken out to make Americans and Medicare recipients aware that their information has been given to an “International body”?
     
    Why haven’t they made people aware that the WHO is a specialized agency of the United Nations and directly linked to the “League of Nations under the guise of collecting data?
     
    Why would we allow forced medical coding through congressional bills to come from an organization that supports UN Agenda 21, Millennium Development Goals, and supports the eradication of “sprawl” (which is average people like you and I)?
     
    Is law enforcement aware of this specific code? If so why haven’t they brought this to the attention of the American people?
     
    Notice nothing is said of Obamacare bringing in beheadings. Obamacare is bringing the medical coding under its umbrella, the question still remains will this coding be implemented under an international body when their New World Order one world government is given authority?
     
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    According to Wikipedia
     
    The World Health Organization (WHO) is a specialized agency of the United Nations (UN) that is concerned with international public health. It was established on 7 April 1948, with its headquarters in Geneva, Switzerland. WHO is a member of the United Nations Development Group. Its predecessor, the Health Organization, was an agency of the League of Nations.
     
    Source:  http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2014/04/obamacare-the-long-arm-of-agenda-21-and-the-new-world-order-questions-facts-answers-video-2943088.html

    Those readers out there who are familiar with my OMF blog thread know of the discovery & tracking of deliveries here in the US of guillotines.

    Cy


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    Post by spacemaverick Fri Apr 25, 2014 2:01 pm

    Malaysia’s Prime Minister admits another plane seen on radar and no investigation

    CNN is joined by Malaysia’s Prime Minister who admits here in the mainstream media that another plane was spotted on radar with MH370 when the flight went missing. With this admission from a Malaysian government official, ‘conspiracy theorists’ are being vindicated that something was ‘amiss’ from the start of this ‘event’ while families of the missing passengers and crew surely have ammunition to take their request for an inquiry to the next level. Who owned the mystery plane seen with flight MH370 on radar? Why was it there? What was it doing? If you had family members on board that plane, what would you be doing now?



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    Post by sajalrm Fri May 02, 2014 4:20 am

    i would have sued the malaysian authority in the int. court of justice for disclosing the real truth.
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    Post by Cyrellys Fri May 09, 2014 7:16 am

    MH 370 THIS EXPLAINS IT ALL!-Air Force source high up the food chain in the 5 sided building on the Potomac. NOTE THIS WAS RECVD LAST WEEK BEFORE IT WAS RELEASED ON OTHER SITE AS AN ASIDE
    During the American withdrawal from Afghanistan, one of their command and control system used for controlling the drones operation, was hijacked by the Taliban when the American transport convoy was moving down from one of the hill top bases. The Taliban ambushed the convoy and killed 2 American Seal personnel, seized the equipment/weapons, including the command and control system which weighed about 20 tons and packed into 6 crates. This happened about a month ago in Feb 2014. The Taliban want money for the system from the Russian or the Chinese. The Russians are too busy in Ukraine. The Chinese are hungry for the systems technology. The Chinese goal is to master the technology behind the command and control system, then, all the American drones will become useless. So the Chinese sent 8 top defense scientists to check the system and agreed to pay millions for it. Sometime in early Mar 2014, the 8 scientists and the 6 crates made their way to Malaysia, thinking that it was the best covert way to avoid detection. The cargo was then kept in the Embassy under diplomatic protection. Meanwhile, American covert intelligence, with the assistance of Israeli intelligence together, determined to intercept and recapture the cargo. The Chinese calculated that it will be safe to transport it via civilian aircraft so as to avoid suspicion. After all, the direct flight from KL to Beijing takes only 4 and half hours, and the American military will not hijack or harm civilian commercial aircraft, so MH 370 is the perfect carrier. There were 5 American and Israeli agents onboard who are familiar with Boeing operation. The 2 Iranians with stolen passports worked in tandem among them. When MH 370 was about to leave the Malaysian air space and reporting to Vietnamese air control, an American AWAC jammed their signal, disabled the pilot control system and switched over to remote control mode. That was when the plane suddenly lost altitude momentarily. During AWAC operations activity in the 911 incident, all Boeing aircraft and Airbus aircraft are installed with remote control system to counter terrorist hijacking. Since then all Boeing commercial aircraft could be remote controlled by FAA /ATC ground control towers. The same remote control system used to control the pilot less spy aircraft and drones. The 5 American/Israeli agents soon took over the plane, switched off the transponder and other communication systems, changed course, and flew westwards. They dare not fly east to Philippines or Guam because the whole South China Sea air space was covered by Chinese surveillance radar and satellite. The Malaysian, Thai, and Indian military radars actually detected the unidentified aircraft but did not react. The plane flew over North Sumatra, Anabas, South India and then landed at Maldives some villagers saw the aircraft landing), refueled and continued its flight to Garcia Diego, the American Air Base in the middle of Indian Ocean. The cargo and the black box were removed. The passengers were silenced via natural means, lack of oxygen by achieving a temporary altitude to 45,000. The MH370 with dead passengers were air borne again via remote control and crashed into South Indian Ocean, make it to believe that the plane eventually ran out of fuel and crashed, and blame the defiant captain and copilot, but first diverting all the attention and search effort in the South China Sea, while the plane made their way to Indian Ocean. Then they came out with some conflicting statement and evidence to confuse the world. The Australians are diversion distracter. The amount of effort put up by China, in terms of the number of search aircraft, ships and satellites, searching first the South China Sea, then the Malacca Straits and the Indian Ocean is unprecedented. This showed that the China is very concerned, not so much because of the many Chinese civilian passengers, but mainly the high value cargo and its 8 top defense scientists. One does not like to think of officials or leaders as committing evil covert events or to do things to cover up a mess. They operate under the premise called The burden of leadership meaning, the end justifies the means. The few inside the circle know the truth, those outside the circle know a little bit, but if the majority is confused then the objective has been achieved in order to stabilize the insanity of world events. This has been the course of human history from the get go and if you are fortunate to shoot pool with certain spooks, you are privy to the inner circle. Hard to believe it, right? Thats the goal!'

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