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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

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What Music Are You Listening To ?

Post by Cliff on Sun Nov 25, 2012 8:44 pm



What better way to breathe life back into OMF ?

GOOD MUSIC ! Very Happy Cool cheers What a Face lol!

Deep Purple - Space Truckin

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Post by Cliff on Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:34 am



I saw a thread about the Fibonacci Sequence here in the forum so I thought of this song. I like the message it sends also. Cool

TOOL - Fibonacci In Lateralus

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For the Watchers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiNw4fuuJUA


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Re: What Music Are You Listening To ?

Post by spacemaverick on Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:07 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7wprk-yYNY

I like Celtic Woman. Love their style of music.


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Post by Jake Reason on Wed Feb 27, 2013 3:11 pm

spacemaverick wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7wprk-yYNY

I like Celtic Woman. Love their style of music.

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Aaron Lewis - Country Boy
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The muppetts theme tune


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Seems fitting this morning -
Disclaimer: Cosmic type. Forecast,Sunny.




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And thinking on those bent on destroying this planet and its Peoples....





2. ...they are a people of unimaginable potential.

1. ................help them remember who they are!


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http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/39890-cia-official-breaks-silence-on-extraterrestrials/



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The Muppets - Bohemian Rhapsody Very Happy
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@cliff The muppets Bohemian Rhapsody , now thats funny Smile


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Post by Bard on Sun Jul 21, 2013 10:27 am

Amsterdam

The Dutch Brigade our last hope of Privacy?
Ripe for change?



"Amsterdam"

I'm sorry, mother... I'm sorry, I let you down
Well, these days I'm fine - No these days I tend to lie
I'll take the West train, just by the side of Amsterdam
Just by my left brain, just by the side of the Tin man

I'm sorry, brother... I'm sorry, I let cha down
Well, these days you're fine - No these days you tend to lie
You'll take the West train, just by the side of Amsterdam
Just by your left brain, just by the side of the Tin man

Your time will come if you wait for it, if you wait for it
It's hard, believe me... I've tried
But I keep coming up short

I'm sorry, lover... You're sorry; I bring you down
Well, these days I try and these days I tend to lie
Kinda thought I was a mystery and then I thought I wasn't meant to be
You said yourself fantastically, "Congratulations you were all alone"

Your time will come if you wait for it, if you wait for it
It's hard, believe me... I've tried
Your time will come if you wait for it, if you wait for it
It's hard, believe me... I've tried

But the rain won't fall for the both of us
The sun won't shine on the both of us
Believe me when I say, that I wouldn't have it any other way

Your time will come if you wait for it, if you wait for it
It's hard, believe me... I've tried
But I won't wait much longer 'cause these walls they're crashing down
And I won't wait much longer 'cause these walls they're crashing down
And I keep coming up short


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The Arizona Sword...an old legend from Arizona




THE ARIZONA SWORD

I couldn't tell you the provenance of this local legend that I wrote up and put to music.  It seems to date from Conquistador days, which would put it somewhere before 1690, but it also contains sentiments that seem distinctly post-Revolutionary.  Then again, the Pueblo Indian tribes who threw out Spanish rule in the Great Pueblo Revolt of 1690 had a lot of similar ideas, so the legend really could be that old.  You can get a truly amazing view of history by asking the Indians about their side of the story.

"Blacksmith make a sword for me, such as none did ever see,
For ancient symbols of majesty have power in troubled times.
Blacksmith, make me a magic sword, one that will make me the valley's lord,
Where folk will hail with one accord to save them from their crimes."

"Seeing he would not be deterred, the blacksmith took him at his word
And pondered long on what he'd heard about this would-be lord.
He pumped the fire and he made his start, melted iron in the fire's heart,
But he named the steel with an older art the Arizona Sword."

"He chanted words to the blazing mix, of ancient Red Men's and White Men's tricks
To draw a spirit, and purpose fix in what the blade would feel.
The iron laws from Nature's hand, the ruthless will of the desert land,
The freedom no one can command -- and cast that thought in steel."

"And when the blacksmith's work was done, the new sword gleamed like the setting sun.
All down the blade did the old runes run, a warning plain to see.
The steel was grained like the finest wood, a full yard long and more it stood.
The runes read, 'I serve but the good of life and liberty.'"

"Near the hilt, set in copper wire, a phoenix rose up from the pyre.
A copper star within the fire rayed out copper cords.
The grip was like a segwaro made that clasped a moon in quartz and jade.
In truth, like as no other blade was the Arizona Sword."

"Blacksmith, well have ye served my cause.  This shall aid me to make the laws.
Hmmm, the guards are shaped like cougar's paws; in truth, like none I've seen.
The price is steep, but I shall not carp.  She'll sing more praise than a minstrel's harp.
Ye gods, that blade is razor-sharp!...For a symbol very keen."

"And cheap She'll be if I strike ye dead!"  The blacksmith promptly turned and fled.
The lordling laughed and shrugged instead, and went out to meet his horde.
He cried out, 'This is the day foretold.  Just one hand now this land shall hold,
for in this sign will I rule.  Behold the Arizona Sword!'"

"'No more arguement shall we find, but all hereafter shall be inclined
To just one purpose and just one mind.  Thus do I mean to do.
Now go ye forth, and take the land.'  The sword heard well his first comand.
She lunged and twisted in his hand, and fell, and ran him through."

"They say the sword vanished clean away, for none has heard of it since that day,
But seek it wisely, and find ye may.  Take care, who would be lord.
Beware, ye tyrant!  Beware, ye fool!  For who is the master and who the tool?
Ye may well serve, but ye shall not rule, the Arizona Sword.

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Anything by Lorenna McKinnett
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Post by Cyrellys on Thu Sep 05, 2013 8:42 am

Welcome to OMF, Dragonfly5355!  Kudos, for a nice first post.

Loreena is a favorite among us shadow dwellers.  For so many reasons....

...and she is a member of the Celtic Revival movement in the Pacific Northwest (US - WA, OR, AK, ID, MT, & BC of C) and quite the musical scholar too.

In the tradition of the Revival, "may we be restored to memory..."





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Oh night thou was my guide!
Oh night more loving than the rising sun
Oh night that joined the lover to the beloved one
Transforming each of them into the other...






To the Fairies They Draw Near

Come away with me now to the sky
Up all the hills and the sea
Far beyond where memories lie
To a place where Im free to be me

Oh Gather it now one and all
No matter what folly may do
Let the stars fill your soul, when the moon cradles all
So, to yourself be true!

The blanket of snow is all gone
Each flower waits for the sun
And the breeze bring tears of the rain
Oh Its promise for everyone

Then come away with me, friends!
No matter where you call your home
With the light in your hearts
We will never part
No matter how far we roam

Deep in the forest we go
Creatures are all fast asleep
With a kiss and a wink we will waken our souls
And long is the safety we'll keep

And then, then we'll dance with the night
Till the sun peeking sparkle at dawn
And away we will go
Like last winters snow
Soon our work will be done.

Oh gather it now one and all
No matter what folly may do
Let the stars fill your soul, when the moon cradles all
So, to yourself be true
So, to yourself be true









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NEVER-ENDING ROAD (AMHRÁN DUIT)
The road now leads onward
As far as can be
Winding lanes
And hedgerows in threes
By purple mountains
And round every bend
All roads lead to you
There is no journey's end.

Here is my heart and I give it to you
Take me with you across this land 
These are my dreams, so simple and few
Dreams we hold in the palm of our hands

Deep in the winter
Amidst falling snow
High in the air
Where the bells they all toll
And now all around me
I feel you still here
Such is the journey
No mystery to fear.

Here is my heart and I give it to you
Take me with you across this land 
These are my dreams, so simple and few
Dreams we hold in the palm of our hands

The road now leads onward
And I know not where
I feel in my heart
That you will be there
Whenever a storm comes
Whatever our fears
The journey goes on
As your love ever nears

Here is my heart and I give it to you
Take me with you across this land 
These are my dreams, so simple and few
Dreams we hold in the palm of our hands


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Lyrics

The Morrigan dreams old dreams of flight
The Morrigan sees with another sight
The Morrigan builds with flesh and bone
and The Morrigan fills an empty throne

The Morrigan fills an empty throne
The Morrigan builds with flesh and bone
The Morrigan sees with another sight
and The Morrigan dreams old dreams of flight

The Morrigan knows your time and place
The Morrigan shows your shifting face
The Morrigan stands behind your skill
and The Morrigan sows and reaps at will

The Morrigan sows and reaps at will
The Morrigan stands behind your skill
The Morrigan shows your shifting face
and The Morrigan knows your time and place

The Morrigan chooses when to rise
The Morrigan views without her eyes
The Morrigan sees with another sight
and The Morrigan dreams old dreams of flight

The Morrigan dreams old dreams of flight
The Morrigan sees with another sight
The Morrigan views without her eyes
The Morrigan chooses when to rise


Lyrics courtesy of :  http://decoda.com/heather-dale-the-morrigan-lyrics


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A dog with no Illusion.

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Lyrics Excerpt:

Nothing to see, there's nothing to see, there's nothing to see here...
Nothing to see, just look away, there's nothing to see here...

I see your symbol is the English oak tree,
Is that your idea of irony?

Now thousands of eyes will fall upon you,
Each watching closely what you will do,
All are ready to spoil your game,
For the blood of an outlaw flows in our veins!

(Chorus)

If you thought that we would do nothing you've misunderstood...
For we are the Sons and Daughters of Robin Hood!

Damh The Bard


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A dog with no Illusion.

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