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    Post by Admin Wed Jul 18, 2012 12:29 pm

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    Hi ScarZ,

    Thank you for posting this information. Does any of David Flynn's material give any idea to the time-frames for the early events or historical figures that his research indicated?


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    Post by Nib Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:32 am

    Thanks MD for the vid. It is interesting the way some of the Qur'an reads. I thought that bit about the Jinn being of this earth was interesting. I've always likened the Jinn to the greys.. hmm


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    Some snippets....."Be sure and click on the link."


    http://islammysteries.com/mi/chap4.html

    Very interesting ScaRZ.. Noah, Adam, Eve, Moses all as giants?? I've never seen it that way. That would make them the Nephelim.. Odd

    Much of that read see jocolor ms to be just what it sounds like, folklore... Sounds like Jack and the beanstock...
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    Post by ScaRZ Fri Feb 08, 2013 1:08 pm

    Nib wrote:Very interesting ScaRZ.. Noah, Adam, Eve, Moses all as giants?? I've never seen it that way.

    It's "Far" from my thinking also. Smile

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    Post by ScaRZ Fri Feb 08, 2013 1:14 pm

    2011 The Human Enhancement Revolution.....Speaker (Tom Horn)

    http://www.god.tv/strategic-perspectives-conference/the-human-enhancement-revolution


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    Post by Bard Sat Feb 09, 2013 6:01 am

    Scarz

    Any word back from the Peter Goodgame/Tim Bence inquiry?



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    Post by ScaRZ Sat Feb 09, 2013 7:16 am

    MD02 wrote:Scarz

    Any word back from the Peter Goodgame/Tim Bence inquiry?


    Nothing from him other than what we already knew.
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    Post by Bard Sat Feb 09, 2013 5:16 pm

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    Nothing from him other than what we already knew.

    Hummmm.... So, far my message to the host has went unanswered.

    Have you listened to the second interview and the 'group encounter at the 59 min mark?'





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    Post by ScaRZ Sun Feb 10, 2013 7:43 am

    MD02 wrote:
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    Nothing from him other than what we already knew.

    Hummmm.... So, far my message to the host has went unanswered.

    Have you listened to the second interview and the 'group encounter at the 59 min mark?'

    You are referring to "Fatherhood and Unity"? I'm going to need to listen to it again. I can't remember that part of the interview. It's been a while since I first listened to it.
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    Post by Bard Mon Feb 11, 2013 6:05 am

    Here you go Scarz

    https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t42p435-the-bible-ufos-et-and-the-ancients-part-3#1849

    Yes, Fatherhood and unity.

    Whats your impression on the the 87% as well as the group encounter. Does that group encounter remind you of anything we discuss in these circles?


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    Post by ScaRZ Mon Feb 11, 2013 6:32 am

    Here's something from The Outpost Forum posted by "Lee". He doesn't care if it's posted here,just so a link to the original is included. I need to study it some more before I can give a fair assessment of it.

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    Pandora's Box: The 'Disclosure Lite' Program

    http://www.theoutpostforum.com/tof/showthread.php?1132-Pandora-s-Box-The-Disclosure-Lite-Program


    Preamble:

    Over the past few years staff members here at The OutPost Forum have developed connections with an international network of individuals from several sectors within the Military Industrial Complex. We stay in touch with a number of these people we have met and become friendly with because we have interests in common, not because they can "do something for us". When news is slow, as it has been for some time now, we hope that maybe someday soon we will hear from someone that something is about to happen, or perhaps some new information about an old case. As all of us who share these interests know, the slow times seem to last forever, punctuated by a brief flurry of activity, or worse, a false alarm and then more waiting. Finally, our efforts are bearing fruit. We have been given the go ahead to exclusively reveal important information provided to us from this network of individuals regarding a new and ongoing project.

    Note: We would like to make it clear that these individuals have requested anonymity - which we have agreed to honor - and we will not under any circumstances answer questions regarding the identity of our contacts. Suffice to say that we are satisfied that these individuals are in a position of responsibility with direct access to the group and program described below. We are well aware that many people will criticize the need for anonymity and perhaps even reject this information because of it. However, faced with the choice of keeping quiet or agreeing to our contacts' need for anonymity and making this important information publicly available, we chose the latter.

    Background:

    Our contacts have made it very clear right from the start that the basic tenets of UFO cover up history are; "...without a doubt ... absolutely and completely true." Meaning Extraterrestrial entities have visited this planet, technology and biological specimens have been recovered. Some degree of limited contact has been established and reverse engineering programs have been initiated with varying levels of success. (Specific details are unclear at this time).

    The 'Disclosure Lite' Program:

    According to our contacts, 'Disclosure Lite' (our term) is a new and officially sanctioned program that was initiated in 2012. Its genesis came about as a compromise between the various elements of the Government, Intelligence, Aerospace and Business communities who have been fighting over Disclosure for decades. As we all know, there have been sides taken in this battle with ultimately the anti-Disclosure group(s) managing to somewhat keep a lid on the various attempts at official release.

    This compromise is then the result of several meetings concerning the subject matter in which our sources played a part and testified numerous times before the group. Interestingly, their own contact within the group is someone who is well known within private industry. (Name not provided.)

    The 'Disclosure Lite' Program is designed to take selected individuals and have them talk about their personal experiences and exposure to the ET presence. They will not venture opinion as to what others may know or what the Government may be doing, but will instead keep their testimony very personal. The individuals making these statements will have their testimony pre-approved, with the timing and method of dissemination preordained by the group. By keeping it personal it is thought they will not be looked upon as whistle blowers. The specific individuals being selected are chosen because of their lack of previous involvement with the subject matter of UFOs and Extraterrestrials.

    So far there have been two official public affirmations from this program:

    - The first was former CIA public relations veteran Chase Brandon's statements from last year where he told of viewing a box of Roswell related material held at the CIA's Historical Intelligence Collection (HIC) in Langley, Virginia.

    We already have a detailed thread on this topic which can be found at:

    http://www.theoutpostforum.com/tof/showthread.php?726-The-Cryptos-Conundrum&p=11218&viewfull=1#post11218

    - Second was Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev's well publicized remarks from December last year. The reporter selected to ask Medvedev the question did not know that she was being set up to ask it but Medvedev knew it was coming and answered as he was approved to do. The situation where it was asked was an aside following an interview with five Russian television stations and was constructed in such a way that he could answer as an off the cuff remark and not get involved responding to questions from reporters.

    Once again detailed information and relevant links can be found in the following dedicated thread:

    http://www.theoutpostforum.com/tof/showthread.php?1015-Alien-Invasion-confirmed-by-Russian-Prime-Minister&p=16513&viewfull=1#post16513

    We have been told that further statements will follow in the coming months and that these may well come from some surprisingly well known and high profile individuals.

    Some Additional points of interest:

    - It is people on the civilian side that are pushing for this.
    - The military controls the actual hard evidence and are against official Disclosure.
    - The technical people 'in the know' have nothing to lose, as they would not be hit by all of the questions and FOIA requests.
    - ET as a demonic entity is a meme that was started to keep the truth hidden.
    - There is a group of 3, 4 and 5-star officers who are attempting to squash this program.
    - The UT basis for ET is a meme that came from them.

    Afterthought:

    According to Greek mythology Pandora opens her box and unleashes evil into the world, luckily for her at the very bottom is a silver lining in the form of hope. If the information presented above is accurate, and we believe it is, then the secret keepers have finally garnered enough courage to open their own version of Pandora's box, if only one small crack at a time.

    As with Pandora, the contents of 'Brandon's box' - once housed at the CIA's Historical Intelligence Collection - can never again be hidden once revealed. It's contents will unleash, not evil into the world, but memes into the collective consciousness of humanity, causing us to reevaluate our position in the universe and perhaps our understanding of reality itself. In this modern version of the ancient Greek myth, perhaps our silver lining is the recovered technology and the potential for clean energy, gravity manipulation and faster than light travel in the not to distant future.
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    Post by Nib Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:50 am

    And the POPE said, "what another disclosure group"??? That's it, I'm stepping down! Outa here- Get yourselves a new Pope!!

    And round Arrow and round she goes- who the new pope is nobody knows..

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    Post by Bard Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:54 am

    ScaRZ wrote:Here's something from The Outpost Forum posted by "Lee".

    Pandora's Box: The 'Disclosure Lite' Program

    http://www.theoutpostforum.com/tof/showthread.php?1132-Pandora-s-Box-The-Disclosure-Lite-Program


    Our contacts have made it very clear right from the start that the basic tenets of UFO cover up history are; "...without a doubt ... absolutely and completely true."


    The 'Disclosure Lite' Program is designed to take selected individuals and have them talk about their personal experiences and exposure to the ET presence. They will not venture opinion as to what others may know or what the Government may be doing, but will instead keep their testimony very personal. The individuals making these statements will have their testimony pre-approved, with the timing and method of dissemination preordained by the group. By keeping it personal it is thought they will not be looked upon as whistle blowers. The specific individuals being selected are chosen because of their lack of previous involvement with the subject matter of UFOs and Extraterrestrials.

    Some Additional points of interest:

    - It is people on the civilian side that are pushing for this.
    - The military controls the actual hard evidence and are against official Disclosure.
    - The technical people 'in the know' have nothing to lose, as they would not be hit by all of the questions and FOIA requests.
    - ET as a demonic entity is a meme that was started to keep the truth hidden.
    - There is a group of 3, 4 and 5-star officers who are attempting to squash this program.
    - The UT basis for ET is a meme that came from them.
    Posted on behalf of the The OutPost Forum Staff.

    “The specific individuals being selected are chosen because of their lack of previous involvement with the subject matter of UFOs and Extraterrestrials.”

    “The individuals making these statements will have their testimony pre-approved, with the timing and method of dissemination preordained by the group.”

    “take selected individuals and have them talk about their personal experiences and exposure to the ET presence.”

    How does one of the ‘selected’ with a lack of involvement in ET/Ufo’s enigma from a civilian/corporate perspective have their testimony preapproved by a group - about their personal experience and exposure to the ET presence - of which they had no previous involvement with?

    I’m vexed, but not surprised. Smile



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    Post by Bard Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:55 am

    Nib wrote:And the POPE said, "what another disclosure group"??? That's it, I'm stepping down! Outa here- Get yourselves a new Pope!!

    And round Arrow and round she goes- who the new pope is nobody knows..


    The last Pope?


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    Post by ScaRZ Mon Feb 11, 2013 8:01 am

    Nib wrote:And the POPE said, "what another disclosure group"??? That's it, I'm stepping down! Outa here- Get yourselves a new Pope!!

    And round Arrow and round she goes- who the new pope is nobody knows..


    Yes,I see The Pope is stepping down Feb. 28. I guess if Malachy is correct,in steps the final pope......"Peter the Roman” whose reign would end in the destruction of Rome. According to this ancient prophecy, the very next pope (following Benedict XVI) will be the final pontiff, Petrus Romanus or Peter the Roman.
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    Post by ScaRZ Mon Feb 11, 2013 8:15 am

    MD02 wrote:
    How does one of the ‘selected’ with a lack of involvement in ET/Ufo’s enigma from a civilian/corporate perspective have their testimony preapproved by a group - about their personal experience and exposure to the ET presence - of which they had no previous involvement with?

    I’m vexed, but not surprised. Smile


    Strange!!

    The military still holds all the hard evidence,so all we are going to get is a bunch of "Whoever they are's" telling only what "Whoever they are's" say they can tell.

    Doesn't all this sound familiar ?
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    Post by Nib Mon Feb 11, 2013 9:00 am

    ScaRZ wrote:

    Doesn't all this sound familiar ?


    Oh Ohh Ohhh as long as behind the scenes meetings that can't be vetted take place at Long John Silvers or uhh a in and out burger I'm ok with it all!!



    This is not one of those times! Laughing
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    Post by Nib Mon Feb 11, 2013 9:08 am

    MD02 wrote:
    Last Pope?



    ScaRZ wrote:
    Yes,I see The Pope is stepping down Feb. 28. I guess if Malachy is correct,in steps the final pope......"Peter the Roman” whose reign would end in the destruction of Rome. According to this ancient prophecy, the very next pope (following Benedict XVI) will be the final pontiff, Petrus Romanus or Peter the Roman.



    EXACTLY!

    Editing to add:

    This guy says the new pope will die by April 2013 ? And that Cardinal Bertone fits the bill pretty good.



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    Post by Bard Mon Feb 11, 2013 9:13 am

    ScaRZ wrote:
    Strange!!

    The military still holds all the hard evidence,so all we are going to get is a bunch of "Whoever they are's" telling only what "Whoever they are's" say they can tell.

    Doesn't all this sound familiar ?

    To the manner in which messages arrive: We cannot discount them in any form if they do not arrive as we wish them to be. There are silver threads to all such communications.

    Dreams via divine inspiration? To believe or MKUltra?
    Precognition - fallacy of the mind like prophesy?
    Wispers re-whispered - less believed?

    Don't shoot all the messengers that arrive with fanciful tales for it is they who shoulder the heaviest burdens laiden with truths less believed.

    Imagine me telling you I saw a man walk on water, turn water into wine, raise a man from the dead, and heal the blind. Or that an elderly man parted a sea by calling upon an useen Presence existing elsewhere, yet everywhere. Imagine the difficulty of those tales being believed falling on the ears of travelers in the furthest reaches of the globe in that time.

    I would be mocked as would you.....Yet, we still believe.



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    Post by ScaRZ Mon Feb 11, 2013 1:58 pm

    MD02 wrote:Here you go Scarz

    https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t42p435-the-bible-ufos-et-and-the-ancients-part-3#1849

    Yes, Fatherhood and unity.

    Whats your impression on the the 87% as well as the group encounter. Does that group encounter remind you of anything we discuss in these circles?


    The Group Encounter reminded me of many of the UFO-Abduction encounters I've heard of. Seven of them remembering only "some things",but all having differences of their personal encounter. The blue haze and lights that lit up the room. All of them in a form of deep sleep. Not being able to move like a paralysis.


    The 87% of church members in the Oklahoma City area not in "Unity" with Jesus Christ was really not a shock to me. In my opinion Oklahoma City isn't any different than any city throughout the USA or all nations of this earth.

    Tim Bence was being taught by The Lord in Oklahoma City a truth and bigger picture of the whole earth. This has nothing to do with all the other religions and faiths....."Only those claiming to be coming in the name of Jesus Christ."

    In the days that we read about in The New Testament this was the goal of Jesus Christ for his Apostles and all his believers and followers......"Unity".

    All those little pieces of a huge jigsaw puzzle in unity complete the Body of Christ.



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    Post by Bard Mon Feb 11, 2013 4:51 pm

    ScaRZ wrote:
    The Group Encounter reminded me of many of the UFO-Abduction encounters I've heard of. Seven of them remembering only "some things",but all having differences of their personal encounter. The blue haze and lights that lit up the room. All of them in a form of deep sleep. Not being able to move like a paralysis.

    Tim Bence was being taught by The Lord

    All those little pieces of a huge jigsaw puzzle in unity complete the Body of Christ.


    Exactly what I thought when I listened to it....

    Which is why we should not make habits of casting judgement on the mysterious nature around us, prematurely.


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    Post by ScaRZ Tue Feb 12, 2013 8:21 am

    MD02 wrote:

    Don't shoot all the messengers that arrive with finciful tales for it is they who shoulder the heaviest burdens laiden with truths less believed.


    I'm not shooting any of the messengers. I'm only reading what was written and the words I wrote in response are truth to what was written.

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    Post by Nib Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:25 pm

    Todays C2C guest for the first half was Chris Putnum.

    Excellent show with some gems here and there. I enjoyed it...Hope you do too..


    http://www.coasttocoastam.com/guest/putnam-cris/61530

    Cris D. Putnam is a bestselling co-author of Petrus Romanus the Final Pope is Here. He is recognized for expertise in the area of biblical prophecy and other prophetic traditions. He holds a Masters degree in Theological Studies and a Bachelor of Science in religion and mathematics.
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    Post by ScaRZ Tue Feb 12, 2013 2:14 pm

    Nib wrote:Todays C2C guest for the first half was Chris Putnum.

    Excellent show with some gems here and there. I enjoyed it...Hope you do too..


    http://www.coasttocoastam.com/guest/putnam-cris/61530

    Cris D. Putnam is a bestselling co-author of Petrus Romanus the Final Pope is Here. He is recognized for expertise in the area of biblical prophecy and other prophetic traditions. He holds a Masters degree in Theological Studies and a Bachelor of Science in religion and mathematics.

    I hope I'll have some free time tomorrow and I plan on listening to it "Nib".

    I'm not a member at Coast to Coast AM but I did find it at Youtube.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VCKWUcVlik
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    Post by Jake Reason Tue Feb 12, 2013 2:42 pm

    I've been rather preoccupied over the past week or so, but see there has been some action while away.

    Petrus Romanus, eh?
    Ummmm, I'm not sure about that. Something is missing. Gloria Olivie appears not to have accomplished what many of the prophecy experts have been interpreting would be done during his Papacy.

    I first got into the St.Malachy Prophecies in the 1990's. I could make a long winded post concerning various interpretations. But thanks to George Norry, C2C has interviewed one of the foremost leading experts on this subject. And I trust he has probably talked all about the various interpretations on the show yesterday.

    Thank you Nib for bringing it to our attention. And thanks ScaRZ for the youtube link. I'll be listening to that before I watch Obama's Address tonight.

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    Post by Jake Reason Tue Feb 12, 2013 4:01 pm

    Disclosure Lite

    This is interesting. It brings back many Admin Team memories. Good ones.

    For what its worth....I would like to say that the Admins of TOP can be trusted to report accurately on this new initiative. Especially since it is evident that Lee, Doc and Chris are seated at the helm on this one. During the Serpo days, we as a team developed protocols concerning the public sharing of off-forum info. It's been a few years now since I was part of the Team, but one thing was sure, I always trusted that Lee, Doc and Chris were men of integrity concerning important matters related to off-forum and/or insider information sharing. What they are now sharing publicly imo, can be trusted as honest reporting.

    Certainly the information being fed to them, is of due course, subject to scrutiny and interpretation. However their reporting is imo sincere.


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    Now concerning the insider information, I sense some anonymous from the past. Could it be possible that "The Clues" has returned? Or possibly that one or more of them ("The Clues" was a team) have in the past couple years made themselves known to them?

    Well based on my experience, Yes, it's possible. There were many communications from "The Clues" that we never did post publicly. Known as "The Seinu Disclosures"

    The OutPost Forum have developed connections with an international network of individuals from several sectors within the Military Industrial Complex
    This would also be a relatively accurate statement concerning "The Clues".

    Just my first gut feel. We never did find out who they were. Maybe the OMF co-founders at Outpost have.



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    Post by ScaRZ Tue Feb 12, 2013 7:38 pm

    Good to see you again Jake. I was hoping you would give us some insight in all of this. The Seinu group did come to my mind when reading the first post at TOP Forum. Maybe some of the material that was never posted on OMF is about to surface with a facelift.


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