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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.

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NSA and UFOs : Anyone want to compare notes?

Post by isaackoi on Thu Jun 19, 2014 5:13 am

I've spent a reasonable amount of time during the last few years looking into issues regarding the NSA and UFOs.

So far, I have typed up about 100 pages of notes as a start on a thread about NSA documents relating to UFOs and related issues, including relevant individuals (including people that worked, or have claimed to have worked, for the NSA and had/have some involvement in ufology).

While I've created a searchable PDF archive of several collections of NSA documents relating to UFOs (some of those document not being available on the NSA's own website in its section on UFOs...), at the moment I'd just like to check whether anyone has spent any time looking into relevant individuals and would like to compare notes. (I think I've read most material published about these individuals online and in books plus quite a bit of the material on them in UFO magazines/journals/newsletters - so I'm really looking to compare notes on information which adds to that already online or in books...).

Has anyone here covered any of this ground already?

The relevant individuals currently covered in Part I of the relevant draft thread are listed below:

Part I : Relevant individuals

Part I1: Tom Deuley
Part I2: Lambros D. P. Callimahos
Part I3: Howell McConnell
Part I4 : Todd Zechel
Part I5 : Admiral Ray Inman
Part I6 : Hal Puthoff
Part I7 : Ray Fowler
Part I8 : William Draeger
Part I9 : Bob Oeschler
Part I10 : Dan Sherman
Part I11 : Ron Cecchini
Part I12: Paul Bennewitz
Part I13 : Donald Menzel
Part I14 : Russ Estes
Part I15 : R. A. Boulay
Part I16 : “Mil”
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Re: NSA and UFOs : Anyone want to compare notes?

Post by dan on Thu Jun 19, 2014 10:14 am


Thanks for this effort. Is there a URL that you can pass along?

Feel free to include any of my materials from OMF, in consultation with Cyrellys, of course.

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Post by isaackoi on Thu Jun 19, 2014 12:27 pm

Thanks Dan.

I don't have any links to pass along in relation to NSA material at the moment since I haven't uploaded the PDFs (or my covering notes, currently about 100 pages long...) since I'm trying to get permission to share some more material and also fill in some gaps in what I know. Hence the request I posted offering to compare notes if anyone has looked into the individuals I mentioned.

My offer to compare notes here and elsewhere has already prompted a couple of interesting emails in response in the last 24 hours.

(If there are any individuals on the above list that are of particular interest to you or other members here, I could probably post some material now on some of those individuals prior to posting the full collection and covering thread).

I can, however, pass along some links to other material I've worked on recently that may be of interest:

(1) A searchable PDF copy the book ”Melbourne Episode : Case Study of a Missing Pilot” (1987) by Dick Haines regarding the disappearance of pilot Frederick M Valentich is now online.

I have posted some sample pages, some background and a few other relevant links/documents in a brief thread on the AboveTopSecret.com discussion forum at:

(2)  Back in 1979, Dr Richard Haines edited a book entitled "UFO Phenomena and the Behavioral Scientist" which contains articles by various leading researchers which "study the eyewitnesses themselves or the social context in which the sighting takes place". Authors included Dr Haines himself, R Leo Sprinkle, Michael Persinger, Berthold Eric Schwarz and others.

I've embedded images of the table of contents, a couple of sample pages and given some background in a discussion on AboveTopSecret.com at the link below:

(I have been in touch with the publishers of the book, Scarecrow Press, and checked that the rights in relation to this commercially published book have reverted to Richard Haines. The publishers kindly responded to my enquiry within 24 hours, which may encourage me to seek to make freely available online other out-of-print UFO books that were commercially published some time ago freely - if this would be of interest to others).

I've uploaded both of the above books (with the permission of Dick Haines) to the link below:

(3) PhD dissertations : I've recently posted a brief thread on ATS giving links to ufological PhD dissertations freely available online (including the dissertations that I've recently uploaded as searchable PDF documents with the kind permission of their authors, i.e. the dissertations by Herb Strentz and David Jacobs) and some avenues for potential further work in relation to PhD dissertations:

(4) UFO Brigantia : Searchable PDF versions of 35 issues of UFO Brigantia from 1985-1992 scanned by Gary Anthony are now (with the permission of its editor, Andy Roberts) are now freely available at the link below:

These are issues 9, 15-18, 20-30, 32-43 and 46-52. (I'm currently trying to get hold of the missing issues and arrange for them to be scanned).

"UFO Brigantia" was one of the better researched (and more entertaining...) UFO journals, published in the UK in the 1980s-1990s. It contained a mix of case reports, articles and book/documentary reviews. It also contained a fair amount of criticism of UFO research/researchers and often had the sort of humour seen in Saucer Smear - e.g. having a bit of fun at the expense of some ufologists that took themselves a bit too seriously.

(5) Blogs : I recently wrote an item about backing-up (and - to me, at least as importantly - efficiently searching) UFO blogs. By way of example, I included links to PDF archives of blogs published by Larry Bryant and Dan Smith (created with their permission):

(6) Roswell : I can't remember whether I mentioned here that I'd uploaded searchable PDF versions of the US Air Force’s report “Fact versus Fiction in the New Mexico Desert”, the US Air Force report entitled “The Roswell Report : Case Closed” and a 26 page General Accounting Office report. Links and sample pages are at:

(7) Info-Paranet Newsletters : Again, I can't remember if I posted a link on this List to a searchable PDF archive I created of issues 1 to 631 of the Info-Paranet "Newsletters" which contained digests of some of the posts on the early "Paranet" bulletin-board system between August 1989 and March 1993. The Paranet PDF archive was uploaded with the approval of its founder, James Speiser:

Once I finish my item on the NSA and I upload relevant documents, I'll post relevant links here as well.
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Re: NSA and UFOs : Anyone want to compare notes?

Post by dan on Thu Jun 19, 2014 4:14 pm

Thank you, Isaac.

As the phneomenon has grown more quiet, domestically, we have an opportunity to reflect on its history. As they say, patience is a virtue.

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