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Who's Disclosure is Disclosure?

Sun Apr 14, 2019 2:16 am by Cyrellys

The narrative war is in full swing. When there's a 100 different competing narratives, how is it possible to discern a disclosure?

Is it akin to which truth is Truth?




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    Post by dan Tue Feb 02, 2021 5:02 am

    First topic message reminder :

    We really shouldn’t forget the old mnemonic postings....... https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t236p425-hello-cy-omf-ii-part-2  

    Here’s a partial glossary for the mnemonics....... https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t251p700-hello-cy-omf-ii-part-2 .... scroll down.....

    Don’t forget other topics pages.......  

    https://bestpossibleworld.com/index06.htm

    https://bestpossibleworld.com/aAquarium/content.html

    https://best-possible.fandom.com/wiki/Best_Possible_Wiki


    Here’s more mnemonics...... https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t236p425-hello-cy-omf-ii-part-2

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    Post by Foresaperire Wed Mar 24, 2021 7:36 pm

    Embody and live your life in truth...in other words stop manipulating - a good place to start. Dancing naked (highly recommended) is a close second. It sure worked for the berserkers didn't it.
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    Post by Big Bunny Love Wed Mar 24, 2021 7:53 pm

    There is just a body here, not my choice.

    No name, no truth, just what is.

    Free will is the funniest idea of all.

    The named branded world is a lie.

    Abandon all hope ye named muppets.

    As if you had a choice.

    After you take the world apart and yourself, you are lucky if you can function here in this aberration.

    This is the realization of a prisoner in solitary confinement.

    The prisoner’s philosophy.

    For has smells of belief on him.

    I don’t talkz aboutz beliefz.

    Joyful reality is all I know.

    The world of brands is burning.

    Enjoy the flamez.

    “Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.” —Ben Franklin

    What is rebellion to God?

    Isn’t god the ultimate tyrant?

    Ben is one of my heroes and he suffered no fools, he gleefully tortured them.

    He had faith.

    And he had a bright light of a mind.

    His ethic included providing for the common good.

    Isn’t the common good a kind of tyranny?

    We live under the tyranny of merit.
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    Post by Big Bunny Love Wed Mar 24, 2021 10:16 pm

    The CIA is the one of the bastions of the meritocracy.

    Oh they better watch us loons, you bet.

    We don’t even have to hide our radical selves.

    We can just play our parts and keep quiet.

    But the privileged shall inherit the earth, always.

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    Post by GSB Thu Mar 25, 2021 6:42 am

    The phenomenon story is growing legs ...

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2021/03/23/ufo-report-covid-bill/


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    Post by dan Thu Mar 25, 2021 10:47 am

    1650z........

    Gary,

    Thank you for the update.  


    When I speak of anomalous phenomena, aerial phenomena only play a small part.  

    However, the bulk of multiply witnessed/recorded phenomena may well be aerial.  

    I’m not holding my breath for there to be anything particularly revealing, relative to what we already have on the books.  

    Lights in the sky can only tell you so much.  

    Gary is a technology hound, and will be looking for any new technical details.  

    Understand, however, that Gary has had his own close encounters with entities....... portal type encounters.  

    Also keep in mind that, for many years, Gary has declined to communicate with me directly, and, even in public, here, he seldom ventures his own opinion.  


    Showing that the government remains aware of AAPs, after many decades of trying to ignore them, publicly, can’t  hurt.

    But, keeping the public focused on the technical side, may also serve to distract from the metaphysical implications.  


    Some of you may recall the presence, here, of Skaizlimit, aka John S.

    John is a college housemate of foot’s.  

    In the past several years I have received several unsolicited phone calls from John.  

    The protocol is that he simply reads a ‘poem’, and then hangs up.

    These ‘poems’ might also be called rhyming nasty-grams.  

    The call I received yesterday focused mainly on words rhyming with ‘turd’.

    John is a former marine, and a retired special Ed instructor in Riverside, CA.  He is also a devout Catholic.  

    He has converted his house into multiple living units, where rooms are rented out, and the Kitchen is shared.  

    Kevin stayed there for nearly a year, before moving to the Firmage compound.  

    I have visited the house, and have, at foot’s request, paid for John’s cabin on two cruises with us.  I have not paid for any accommodation for foot or his family.  

    We can be rather sure that John makes these calls only at foot’s request.

    As far as I’ve been informed, John is a portal experiencer.  

    He made an overland excursion to (‘almost’) meet up with us in Yucatán.

    foot claimed that he helped in locating and repositioning an actuator in a cemetery in Costa Rica, shortly before we arrived, so that foot and Princess could easily retrieve it.  

    If you can make sense of any of this, more power to you.  


    So, yes, foot, rather neatly, straddles the divide between the secular and sectarian.  

    This Constitutionally mandated separation of interests is certainly going to muddle any Disclosure effort.

    But, at that point, the Constitution may garner mainly historical interest.  


    2030.........

    Am I implying that Disclosure is not going to be beneficial for democracy?  

    It would seem that personalism would have many features in common with democracy.  

    But, then, there is only one person, when all is said and done.  

    Yes, but, again, the first shall be last, and the last shall be first.  

    And I have always supported democratic institutions...... especially against the likes of Trump.  

    The fear is that Disclosure will be upsetting to all existing social orders.  

    The maintenance of some semblance of stability may demand some emergency measures.  Let’s hope that those measures may be minimal.

    Are we going to have a portal police?  

    The Princess is alleged to be policing the portals, single handedly.  

    No one has complained, yet.  

    Will this arrangement survive Disclosure?  

    Well, there will be novel forms of stress.  

    Among other things, the Katechon will have to be internalized, globally.  

    This would demand an education effort....... of a completely unprecedented scale.  

    Yes, this effort would have to be scaled up ‘significantly’ from what we have, here, at OM.  

    There would have to be a very considerable coordination between the two sides.  

    Recall that any given portal has two passages...... as in an air lock.  

    Storming the gates of Heaven is not recommended.  

    It’s all about entanglement...... mobs are notoriously deficient when it comes to entanglement.  

    Entanglement is about quality, much more than about quantity.  

    Where two or more of you are gathered together in my name, there will I be, also.

    There must be a common intent...... of the purest sort.  

    Donald Trump was trying to game this system....... a good example of a bad example.  

    He was cut off at the pass.  I believe that John S was a major Trump fan.  It’s difficult for a tin-horn to pass along the horn.  


    And you may recall the video taken on the Panama cruise, in January ‘17.......   foot said that chick 🐥 was going to be donny’s biggest problem...... in a few months......... well, maybe in a few years....... or something....... just sayin’. You never can tell.



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    Post by hobbit Thu Mar 25, 2021 11:54 am

    They have big balls in Costa Rica
    https://www.world-mysteries.com/guest-authors/stone-balls-spheres-costa-rica/#:~:text=Hundreds%20of%20stone%20balls%20have%20been%20documented%20in,were%20described%20in%20a%201965%20National%20Geographic%20article.


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    Post by Big Bunny Love Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:38 pm

    John is no worse or better than any of us.

    Who is the muppet who thinks the crown is theirs?

    Haha.

    Who thinks they know?

    The fool is thy tool.

    Religious muppets are wrong, every one.

    That’s ok.

    Cause we can all die knowing, none of us knew.

    But those who dared to love.

    To love with all their hearts.

    If you don’t, I certainly couldn’t know you.

    A clue.

    Satan is on my speed dial.

    We have pancakes now and then.



    Sometimes George Harrison comes over and we throw pancakes at John’s corpse.

    We lose ourselves...and we find it all.

    Those who cling
    Will have no spring

    Aliens in the sky...

    we drink from the river

    and then we put up our walls

    You wanna play

    But you never wanna lose

    Losing is half the fun 🤩

    Aerials in the Sky

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    Post by dan Fri Mar 26, 2021 7:56 pm

    0200z........

    I’ve not been terribly anxious to discuss the boundary problem in the BPW........

    Most broadly, the BPW consists of two states of mind........ normal, waking consciousness or consensual reality, and everything else.  

    This is a great oversimplification, but we are in no position to be much more sophisticated about it.  

    ‘Everything else’ might also be described as altered states.

    The conventional wisdom is that waking consciousness is about the real world, and everything else is an internal phantasmagoria.  

    An immaterialist is not able to make this conventional assumption.  

    The BPWH posits a cosmic mind that is variously compartmented.  


    0240........

    Thanks, Gary, for the updates.....


    The consensual world is interpersonal....... we all share in it.  

    Other realms are more personal.  

    The consensual world is dominated by the constraints of physics.  

    For everything else, the constraints are more difficult to characterize.  

    Well, that is a very modest beginning........ I’m going to be on the Outer Banks for the next few days.......

    Even in normal waking states, we have access to our personal memory and imagination.



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    Post by GSB Fri Mar 26, 2021 8:00 pm

    More disclosure politics ...

    https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/ufos-or-drones-what-swarming-us-navy-warships-181110

    https://www.politico.com/news/2021/03/25/ufo-sightings-report-478104


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    Post by Big Bunny Love Sat Mar 27, 2021 12:00 am

    Realism is tough to shake.

    A large clump of invisible matter just slung some stars out of the nearest cluster.

    Have to keep up appearances I guess.

    Not to worry, they say it won’t bug us.

    Uh huh.

    Oh and Apophis just missed us, but it’s gonna hit in a 100 years.

    And here we are on the earth with a world of muppet morons limiting each other’s votes due to the color of their skin.

    One might observe we are missing life by a lot.

    We meet here together, petty muppets that we are.

    We do love to tell stories.

    Maybe the navy is pissed at the Air Force sending all those cute pills to bug them and they are outing each other.

    Have you noticed the Navy just released a bunch of crazy patents?

    They have some super genius working for them apparently.

    I like the railgun.

    That would be a great space weapon.

    All smells so silly.

    https://www.vice.com/en/article/4adpv9/us-navy-has-patents-on-tech-it-says-will-engineer-the-fabric-of-reality

    Muppets engineering the fabric of reality?

    Oh boy.

    Sure, why not.

    Enjoy the outer banks, not sure how much longer we can keep this show going.
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    Post by hobbit Sat Mar 27, 2021 3:14 am

    Well Dan, if You don't want to mention what big balls the costa Ricans have I do.

    The balls are spherical.

    You exist in a spherical field of consciousness.

    Your so called awake reality is locked to the planets spherical field.

    But that planets field has geometry, a very complex geometry with sort of main line stations.

    Now just imagine if a separate big spherical ball was positioned smack on a main line point.

    It would be like another small world field of consciousness that circulates such.

    You see consciousness is akin to water, and if You put sluices in water it reacts to resistance and seeks the path of least resistance.


    So!

    What if Your field is no longer locked to the planets field?

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    Post by hobbit Sat Mar 27, 2021 3:23 am

    Oh look, the big stone balls were often found in graves.

    And they were arranged geometrically, some of the balls weigh aprox 15 tons ( in the planets field)

    http://www.ancient-wisdom.com/costarica.htm

    Shell rich balls ( think of spiral shells)

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    Post by hobbit Sat Mar 27, 2021 3:30 am

    In Scotland they have smaller balls.
    But they are brilliantly carved, and this little hobbit RECOGNISES the carvings.

    http://www.ancient-wisdom.com/scotlandballs.htm

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    Post by Big Bunny Love Sat Mar 27, 2021 1:07 pm

    We are open systems, not persons.

    Evil is natural.

    Evil isn’t what we think it is.

    Neither is goodness.

    Morality is just a behavior modification algorithm.

    We take this as it comes.

    Does this destroy the human spirit?

    We simply do not know ourselves or each other.

    We are not responsible for our actions.

    We didn’t choose to act.

    No one is here deciding.

    This is happening.

    We are responding.

    We can observe and interact with it.

    We are influenced by everything.

    From this we can be patient with each other.

    Where is belief and faith with no free will?

    Politics and ufo disclosure can be seen for what they are, just more ways to change your action.

    No one is deciding to change you.

    The system is changing.

    I think we are better off really with letting go the illusion of free will.

    We can relax.

    I don’t believe or not believe it.

    Or to say it better, with little input, our minds are quiet.

    Reduce your information when you need to.

    My open system reaction to your comments hobbit is to see a juggler in my mind.

    You are just juggling.

    I juggle.

    We all do.

    Sometimes the balls fall.

    My brain software isn’t going to run on anyone else’s really.

    Leibniz can’t be right or wrong.

    A system from his time.

    This has to be the best world because if not god had no sufficient reason to create this?

    Are you kidding me?

    Who the F says so?

    Some muppet with a wig?

    And from his arguments and logic Dan has given his all?

    Interesting what muppets do, not really.

    We do what we do.

    Just enjoy the ride I say.

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    Post by Big Bunny Love Sun Mar 28, 2021 11:04 am

    A dark winter indeed.

    I took the first moderna vaccine dose last week and wow, did it hit me hard.

    Hmmm, I still feel like me Wink

    Maybe the 2nd dose will finally kill the smelly goat.

    Shrug.

    Here is what was on my heart today.

    I was sad about the hanging suicide of a great knight in the fight for the human heart.

    It happened a few years ago, but I have been reading more of his last book and feeling what a great loss his death was.

    He was engulfed by the secret sadness.

    Trump has greatly increased this sadness.

    He was inevitable.

    Some say the collapse has already happened, perhaps.

    We have many mini collapses to avoid what Kennedy almost caused.

    Kennedy was killed because he was likely the most dangerous muppet in human history.

    It came down to hours and indeed, the bomber crews.

    It always comes down to us individuals, alive in key times to move the needle when needed.

    The whole human race hung in those hours.

    Been reading up on why they killed him and the free fall ever since.

    I am a student of history and always looking into the last 500 years and what is coming and here now.

    How shall we live now is always my first guiding principle, that makes me any enemy of any authority or transcendent idealism or muppet who has given away their own mind to group think.

    Those are the lost ones, but maybe only the weird know this.

    We are lost.

    But pragmatic stoicism just keeps chaos at bay, then you have to descend into the cellar.

    I have my lamp here and hope and suggest often, others find theirs.

    So been reading “Weird and the Eerie” by Mark Fisher, he has nailed it I think.

    Here's the definition of the Weird in the introduction:

    'the weird is that which does not belong. The weird brings to the familiar something which ordinarily lies beyond it'

    I think this is exactly the definition of synchronicity.

    I think this is the esoteric path laid open.

    The pressure outside, compresses us, to ignition.

    This is the definition of the Eerie from the introduction:

    'we find the eerie more readily in landscapes partially emptied of the human. What happened to produce these ruins, this disappearance? What kind of entity was involved? What kind of thing was it that emitted such an eerie cry? As we can see from these examples, the eerie is fundamentally tied up with questions of agency. What kind of agent is acting here? Is there an agent at all?'

    “A secret sadness lurks behind the twenty-first-century’s forced smile.”

    Capitalist realism is a zombie that has risen as neoliberalism.

    It’s hard to kill, but we have to kill it.

    Movements are flashing now and more and more militant.

    This was seen and been predicted.

    The forces have no choice really, the script is written.

    They have set up controls to keep us contained while we ride out this postmodern nihilist consumerised hell.

    When you look out at our culture, I see one thing, Hell, here and out and proud.

    How can one live in hell best is a good focus of practice imho.

    The break down is so powerful humans are changing their sex spontaneously.

    We don’t really have a capitalist system, like China, we have a state controlled capitalism, using the average American like a battery and a part of a failing machine.

    Who do you think taught China?

    And look at what they are teaching us.

    Look at our politicians, lost and corrupt and trapped by their own schemes within schemes, paralyzed.

    Democratic socialism is on the rise, a new tyranny of and for the common man.

    Neo-anarchism is rising as a result of the capitalist nightmare, no hope there.

    The more you hold it down, the more violent the eruptions will be, which will give them the mandate to lock down harder on people.

    Consumerism can’t be sustained.

    Will it be fascism again?

    It will try.

    The religious nationalists will only be 1/3 of us in the end.

    They may have to break off their own country.

    They can’t abide the humanists and atheists, we can’t abide them.

    The only hope for them is to reach them 1:1 and show them other states of consciousness.

    This desire to let the group make all the decisions will always appeal to a big group of muppetz.

    The nationalist insurrection was an attempt to break out of this capitalist system.

    It won’t ever succeed.

    But what about Acid Communism?

    Ask For and Ack about that.

    I think muppets like ack, myself and for are part of the new new acid communist uprising.

    And I think we will win.

    What you other muppets don’t see yet, is how the deep unconscious has already moved into acid level consciousness.

    It could be because our mind has been asphyxiated and we are in the last stage of death and the end of history.

    Regardless, we shall inherit the earth.

    The earth has risen us up and bequeathed us her wisdom and treasures.

    We are dispensing it into the world even now.

    A green poison.

    The serpent’s poison has reached the mind and is slowly paralyzing us.

    Music is a true measure of our politics.

    Our music seeks to gloss over the malaise, but not address it.

    Go back to sleep it sings in hollow dead 💀 tones.

    Some hear it saying we are dreaming, wake up wake up.

    Will I Am, Pitbull and the new Gen Z music, listen to it.

    It hides great pain.

    They don’t want your sick diseased corrupt virus filled world.

    They just don’t want this anymore and so we will wish this away and all the billionaires too.

    We will wish away the big lie.

    Then what?

    Healing?

    Birth?

    Chaos?

    All the above?!

    Christ, and every other god who promised to return?!

    The loons have some work to do now.

    What others think and say doesn’t matter, watch what they do, that’s who they are, watch what we do.

    I’m with George Carlin, I’m ready for the meteor to wipe earth clean, I’m here for the show, the entertainment.

    This is the big reality show in the sky.

    Enjoy.  

    Mark my words, the acid revolution is about to go into overdrive.

    I know that way gives us the most potentials.

    We can see the farthest and deepest than we ever have, now more than ever, we need to see clearly we are almost done.

    The herd even now is going through a psychedelic vaccine process.

    To protect us from lies.

    Strange loops.

    What captivated us moths here is the strange.

    There is horror out there.

    Go wade into the nationalistic swamp of 8chan, once home of QAnon.

    We can’t ignore these lost sheep.

    But we can’t reach them either.

    The BPW says that there is just enough evil to bring out the best.

    Acid heads unite!

    I think we have to create a new Psychedelic Party, closer to reality of this strangeness.

    It’s like you have to enter through a gateway of hatred to get into that nutzo right wing apocalyptic party.

    And they used trafficking kids to bring in the women.

    Sneaky 🐍 🐍 🐍

    Today we are overwhelmed by commands from our information streams.

    It stresses the nervous system.

    Turning that stream way down seems wise.

    These imagined realities are spewing out of these dark corners like sewer water.

    The bourgeoisie now invade the digital space.

    They even seek to eat the psychedelics.

    Be my guest.

    Let the muppets eat all the cosmic rainbow 🌈 candy.

    Eat it all up lil piggies.

    It’s gonna give them a bellyache.

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    Post by dan Sun Mar 28, 2021 3:35 pm

    Yes, folks are looking for an alternative to ego consciousness and its sense of alienation.

    This is the force behind identity politics and the return to the tribe.

    As Owen Barfield explained, we can’t just turn the clock back.

    We will have to move forward into final participation.  

    The opening of the portals may be necessary to facilitate our metamorphosis........ our consensual gestalt switch...... from the big world to the small world...... the best possible world.  

    There is no political or economic solution to our malaise of ego consciousness.  

    The solution will be spiritual and metaphysical.  

    It will entail the mother of all paradigm shifts (MoAPS).  

    Chivo experienced his gestalt switch with the assistance of ayahuasca.

    He has been reluctant to suppose that the rest of us will be able to achieve a similar outcome....... at the best possible time......

    He has been reluctant to suppose that we will ever be able to achieve final participation.  

    Even Owen Barfield suggested that it might require another thousand years or so.  

    Owen’s time frame was similar to that of Teilhard.

    They both failed to anticipate the historical imminence of the ‘wiring’ of the world.  

    Even Bill Gates made the same mistake.  

    The internet portal is upon us, sports fans.

    QAnon is but a pale shadow of the real chicken little.

    In other words, the chick 🐥 doesn’t have to be smitty, but such a one will arrive...... at the best possible time....... and it won’t be long...... fear not.  



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    Post by hobbit Mon Mar 29, 2021 2:36 am

    Only time will tell.

    https://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/jimmybuffett/onlytimewilltell.html

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    Post by GSB Mon Mar 29, 2021 3:31 am

    Kathmandu. March 18, 2021: Advanced Engineering (acem) signs MoU with Kashmir World Foundation (KwF) in the virtual signing ceremony today.

    Mr. Kapil Dev Regmi, Executive Director, signed the agreement on behalf of acem alongside CEO of KwF, Princess Aliyah Pandolfi.

    The MoU emphasizes collaboration between acem and KwF to promote joint educational association via technology, programs, and projects.

    Mr. Ramesh Silwal, Chairman of acem expressed his gratitude to Princess Aliyah Pandolfi and the entire KwF team for this affiliation.

    He asserted it will benefit both education and technology advancement which furthermore foster field of academia and the industries as well.

    Mr. Kapil Dev Regmi, executive director, officially began the program by highlighting the thriving bond of acem and KwF.

    He assured such association encourages as well as promotes STEM education, girls’ empowerment and hence, the ambitious drone flight by KwF is definitely going to be worthwhile.

    Mr. Regmi also expressed his contentment towards the increasing enthusiasm of female participation in the field of technology and research.

    Princess Aliyah Pandolfi, CEO, KwF, also rejoiced over this partnership.

    She shared her vision to empower and engage students in design and development of the drone applications which furthermore aims to conserve endangered species.

    “We all are thrilled to explore Nepal to execute our drone flight soon,” Pandolfi added.

    Dr. Ron Pandolfi from KwF, affirmed that the students of acem will get opportunities to participate in the international platform through such alliance.

    On the other hand, KwF will have the advantage of laborious and innovative products of Advanced Engineering.


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    Post by dan Mon Mar 29, 2021 7:42 am

    Thank you, Gary,

    I’m glad to hear that the Princess is remaining active...... especially in her home region.  
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    Post by Big Bunny Love Mon Mar 29, 2021 11:53 am

    Bullshitz wrote:A disclosure team is being formed, and donny is (still) in charge.
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    Post by dan Mon Mar 29, 2021 1:46 pm

    Chivo,

    This part about a team was only mentioned briefly on the one phone call from foot, since the insurrection...... followed be the nasty gram from his buddy, John S.

    So, in speaking about such a ‘team’, I’m only passing along single sourced, raw information.  

    However, it would behoove us to remain open to the possibility that donny’s ace in the hole 🕳 revolves around the Disclosure contingency.  



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    Post by Big Bunny Love Tue Mar 30, 2021 12:55 pm

    I think your Ronnie is full of sh*t and clueless, so, listen to that one all you like.

    Donnie can only do anything for Donnie.

    No one is doing anything for anyone else.

    We are following our selfish scripts.

    It’s boring really.

    We have a social disease 🦠

    Wetiko and it wants to eat the world.

    The digital malaise is heavy.

    Capitalist realism is blocking our awareness.

    Growing skepticism of digital cultures.

    No, transcendence is not available.

    This is where we must deal with and face this.

    We are expressions of this.

    Ron nor I nor you has any free will.

    Enjoy the show.

    A secret sadness is destroying the world and it is only barely seen now.

    Portals, are you kidding me?

    Are you stupid?

    You people are not my friends.

    We have the most incredible portal, but we are not entitled or more deserving than any atom or electron.

    We are of this.

    Each has it in their skull and body.

    And the phone is an extension of this portal.

    A material portal.

    One that can facilitate your destruction or allow you to feel the collective wet dream.

    The weird and eerie isn’t going to stop.

    It will get more in your face.

    So the capitalist thing, yah, done.

    Coop and sharing resources is the way.

    No more scraping for Thyself alone.
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    Post by dan Tue Mar 30, 2021 2:51 pm

    Chivo,

    We have miles to go before we sleep.  

    I’m doubtful that there will be a resting place anywhere this side of the Source/Telos........ Alpha/Omega.  

    I’m doubtful of Utopia.  

    I’m still in limbo about the difference between portals and altered states.



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