Yes, 99...... 2

First topic message reminder :

It looks like we’re running up,against the 40 page allotment from the last thread......

And I’m still with Tulsi, unless there is a better suggestion......

Hmmm....... well, how about for lunch?

Sure

Ack wrote:The J-guy's word is the still small voice inside each of us when we open ourselves to hearing it.

There are some who act as a stand in for that voice at times of transition.

I would say the spirit of truth is a pretty decent stand in for the J-guy's word and I would also say that the word makes for a pretty good chrysalis....wouldn't you say?

I have faith and hope that the world will transition from a world of suffering to a world of peace and love.

Is my faith in a better tomorrow for this word so bad?

You never did know much.

The only true word is poetry, the rest is ignorant opinion.

Have no poetry and you are a mute.

Logic, philosophy, nonsense.

Talk here forever, only what you do matters.

What we say and think also matters.

Beware the Messengers of Deception.

Most have no idea even they are such.

Ack wrote:What we say and think also matters.

Delusional.

Instead of thinking, spend your life living.

There are many deceivers about.

The way we live our lives is largely a reflection of our thought patterns and our inner chatter.

smelly,

All your chatter about non thought is delusional posturing, at best, and plain evil, at worst.

Yes, it is very beneficial for us to clear and recenter ourselves........ to take a deep breath......

But you take this folk remedy and push it to comedic extremes....... you flail yourself, and the rest of us, with it.

It is tiresome.  Please go somewhere else to preach no thought.  



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Never underestimate the power of positive thinking.

As a man/woman thinketh so is he/she.

One person can change the whole world for the better.

Ack,

Yes, at times, I may put too much stress on the interpersonal.  

Visions are intensely personal....... committees don’t have visions.  Committees may pursue a vision.  

The b&j guys had visions, and those visions transformed the world.  

In this small world, we’re waiting for the last shoe to drop.

The BPWH may be that shoe.  

I see no reason for any of us to know otherwise.  

Any person can own any vision.  They are free, but you still have to own them...... make them your own.  

Visions must be personal, but they are nothing if not shareable...... shareware......

The intensely personal nature of our visions speaks mainly to the intensely personal nature of the One mind........ the One that we share with great abandon.  

I don’t know the individual who was Jesus. However, I know the person with that vision.  I know all the persons who own that vision....... they are my brothers and sisters.  I know the sacrifices that go with that vision.  We share those sacrifices........ there is vicarious atonement (at-One-ment)..... speaking of the interpersonal.  



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Dan, how long have you been an Omnist?

99,

I’m not an omnist...... I’m a One-ist....... big difference.

I’m a monist...... you just have to switch the first two letters.  

There is a big difference between pantheism and monism.

Monism is panentheism...... is the One mind. It is theism, as opposed to deism...... it is our Father, and all that.



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dan wrote:99,

I’m not an omnist...... I’m a One-ist....... big difference.

I’m a monist...... you just have to switch the first two letters.  



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Thanks for commenting on this Dan.

99,

No, it is not that....... diagram with the Earth at the center.  

One-ism is intensely personal.  It is hardly indiscriminate or promiscuous.  

If there is anything at the center, it is the cross, with a person on it.  

I am not a Gaia freak, I’m a Jesus freak.  

Deep ecology is a manifestation of deep time, which is a whole other dimension of time....... almost completely other than phenomenal time.  

Deep time is merely a tool to provide an aesthetic platform for phenomenal time...... for human history and the Metanarrative.  

Creation is by us, for us and about us..... persons.  We just needed a place to call our home, away from home.  

Oneism is all about discernment.......

It is about moving toward the light.  

There are choirs of angels....... where you may catch your breath..... where you may contemplate taking another spin, back in the washing machine we call the Earth.  

Otherwise, it’s Monadnock or bust.  

When you get to the top, you won’t be sitting next to Jesus...... no.....  you will be Jesus.  It’s lonely at the top, or so I’ve heard.  

There is turnover.  There is the rapture of the heights.  There is the death zone above 8,000 meters.  It’s a place you might want to visit one day.  It is on everyone’s bucket list.  

That’s my vision of One-mindism.  Been there, done that...... maybe.  

Don’t knock it if you haven’t tried it.  

It might also be like the oracle at Delphi.... the Pythia..... sitting on the tripod over the Earth’s vent...... and probably with internet access.  

Wherever it is, it’s behind the Rawlsian veil of ignorance. smelly has the right idea, but the wrong veil.



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My thoughts keep coming back to, tautology, I have come to think it's not such a negative term really.

Actually it seems an inevitable.

Smelly, says Love burns away, I say Love sublimates, Dan says faith in the J man? Are they so different?

Did any of you see the article by a group of researchers that stated they have found that we all truly do see differently one from another? (can't find it again) May have been my imagination..

I do have to say I find isms hard to swallow. Must be all those ancient bones sticking as they go down.

Time to move on?

song of love old

new

The heart of Love never changes.. we seem to though.

wk,

There need to be conversations across all the traditions, including science.

This cannot happen without a lingua Franca, such as what philosophy provides.  

No one is required to participate, as long as they can trust some of those who do.

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The old order changeth yielding place to new and God fulfills himself in many ways Lest one good custom should corrupt the world.

– Alfred, Lord Tennyson

When the KGB took over those countries after the war, they mapped out all the connections between key persons and then randomly arrested them and asked them...who do you know?

Now FB has all the same info.

The UFO phenomena has been used to manipulate folks.

It will correct itself.

All will do what it does.

It is satisfying to rest here enjoying the views.

Oh I don't disagree with that at all.

My perspective is changing all the time through my encounters.

No matter where or what. That's the point is it not.

You said yourself I believe. Something about evolving?

I'm just saying or asking why get so mired in the past?

smelly wrote:When the KGB took over those countries after the war, they mapped out all the connections between key persons and then randomly arrested them and asked them...who do you know?

The scary microcosm to the KGB was the, East German stasi.

They took over the satellites in 2 months.

They were masters of mind apparently.

“Look down at me and you see a fool,

Look up at me and you see a god,

Look straight at me and you see yourself.”

wk,

You are in for a big surprise.......

In the small world, we don’t do evolution.

Evolution is the appearance that ties nature together with with a very functional and aesthetic ribbon.  

Evolution provides a very useful canvas on which the design of nature may be drawn.  

Evolution was the pièce de resistance of materialism....... now, we move on......

Materialism is the driver of history....... of material and much of social progress...... the driver of the Metanarrative.  

Materialism provides the backbone of the best possible world.  

Yes, the Metanarrative, like all good stories, has a beginning, a middle and an End.

The basic plot points are that we come from the Source, and we return to the Source....... these points are the Alpha and the Omega.  

B&J are what happens in the middle.  chicken little happens at the end.  

In our minds, the cosmos is expanding....... until it collapses.  That collapse is the mother of all paradigm shifts (MoAPS), brought on by chicken little, or some facsimile, thereof.  

A big world is necessarily impersonal.  The best world is personal and necessarily small, ie. Earth size.  

This small world, however, is Eternal....... human history is a closed timelike curve (CTC).  

The Eschaton only appears to those of us traveling on the track of human history.  From a birds eye view, it is necessarily self contained.  

Note bené: this is not an Eternal Return cosmology, as the Hindus like to speculate.  

Ours is the best possible singular circuit.  

Furthermore, there is actually only one cosmic soul, which we are all timesharing, as soul mates.  Compare this with John Wheeler’s one electron theory of the universe.  


7...........

The One soul theory I now see as being concomitant with the One mind theory.

Is there even a difference between the two......?  

We think of the soul or psyche as constituting the core of our personal self. Modern psychology, however, equates the psyche with the totality of the mind.

Perhaps it is the world soul that perceives the world mind....... the former being more subjective, and the later being relatively more objective or interpersonal.

We share the one mind in a more phenomenal sense, and the one soul in a more noumenal sense....... perhaps. I’m not advocating for the conflation of the two.

Where resides mathematics or the Logos, for instance?

Both are decidedly interpersonal, as is the phenomenal world.

The psyche, as with psychedelic, is rather more personal and noumenal. However, the Jungian archetypes are allegedly of the collective unconscious.

Clearly this is a work in progress...... this distinction between soul and mind in the small, personal world.

This has to do with finding the proper complementarity between Buddha and Jesus.

Clearly though, Jesus has a bit of an advantage in having left an explicit opening for a finalé.

In Buddhism there is the Maitreya, which some see as equivalent to the Second Coming, but, without an Eschaton, there cannot be much similarity.


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Dan Smith wrote:Visions are intensely personal....... committees don’t have visions.  Committees may pursue a vision.  

The b&j guys had visions, and those visions transformed the world.  

In this small world, we’re waiting for the last shoe to drop. 

The BPWH may be that shoe.   

I see no reason for any of us to know otherwise.  

Any person can own any vision.  They are free, but you still have to own them...... make them your own.  

Visions must be personal, but they are nothing if not shareable...... shareware...... 

The intensely personal nature of our visions speaks mainly to the intensely personal nature of the One mind........ the One that we share with great abandon.  

I don’t know the individual who was Jesus. However, I know the person with that vision.  I know all the persons who own that vision....... they are my brothers and sisters.  I know the sacrifices that go with that vision.  We share those sacrifices........ there is vicarious atonement (at-One-ment)..... speaking of the interpersonal.  

This is the most Truth I think I've seen Dan write in one post ever.

It is a big reveal.  

Watch he'll next try to obfuscate it with a new post.

Dan's DEEP ECOLOGY is the process in motion...good term for it.  Just not quite in the way Dan views it.

Remember I said Dan was "on the right track" -- he has SOME of it correct.  Then ego twists it up.

FYI being interconnected or sharing an interconnection to universal consciousness is not the same as being it.

Dan Smith wrote:Deep ecology is a manifestation of deep time, which is a whole other dimension of time....... almost completely other than phenomenal time.  

Deep time is merely a tool to provide an aesthetic platform for phenomenal time...... for human history and the Metanarrative.   

And between 3,000 to 8,000 feet

Dan Smith wrote:Oneism is all about discernment....... 

It is about moving toward the light.  

There are choirs of angels....... where you may catch your breath..... where you may contemplate taking another spin, back in the washing machine we call the Earth.  

Otherwise, it’s Monadnock or bust.  

When you get to the top, you won’t be sitting next to Jesus...... no.....  you will be Jesus.  It’s lonely at the top, or so I’ve heard.  

There is turnover.  There is the rapture of the heights.  There is the death zone above 8,000 meters.  It’s a place you might want to visit one day.  It is on everyone’s bucket list.   

That’s my vision of One-mindism.  Been there, done that...... maybe.  

Don’t knock it if you haven’t tried it.  

Everyone's bucket list.

It's meters not feet.

Wikipedia wrote:The death zone is the name used by mountain climbers for high altitude where there is not enough available oxygen for humans to breathe. This is usually above 8,000metres (26,247 feet). Most of the 200+ climbers who have died on Mount Everest have died in the death zone.

Death zone - Simple English Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_zone

Can all of you wrap your mind around a manufactured 95% planetary depopulation event?

A ELE extinction level event capable of taking out the human race hast to be a perfect storm.

What is a perfect storm?  It is a series of cascading catastrophic events capable of overwhelming our ability to adapt and overcome...to destroy the designed "Potential".

How would vectors become a series of cascading catastrophic events?

Why in 2010 would the military evac everything of critical import from any location at sea level?

Why recommend all designated survivors to retreat to 3,000 to 8,000?

What is "mother cell"?  

Triple Helix wrote:https://triplehelix.stanford.edu/3helix_concept


The concept of the Triple Helix of university-industry-government relationships initiated in the 1990s by Etzkowitz (1993) and Etzkowitz and Leydesdorff (1995), encompassing elements of precursor works by Lowe (1982) and Sábato and Mackenzi (1982), interprets the shift from a dominating industry-government dyad in the Industrial Society to a growing triadic relationship between university-industry-government in the Knowledge Society. 
The Triple Helix thesis is that the potential for innovation and economic development in a Knowledge Society lies in a more prominent role for the university and in the hybridisation of elements from university, industry and government to generate new institutional and social formats for the production, transfer and application of knowledge. This vision encompasses not only the creative destruction that appears as a natural innovation dynamics (Schumpeter, 1942), but also the creative renewal that arises within each of the three institutional spheres of university, industry and government, as well as at their intersections.
Through subsequent development, a significant body of Triple Helix theoretical and empirical research  has grown over the last two decades that provides a general framework for exploring complex innovation dynamics and for informing national, regional and international innovation and development policy-making.This substantive body of Triple Helix literature can be broadly seen from two main complementary perspectives:

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SUBJECT: CONTINGENCY-13 PLAN PHILSOPHER KINGS
References: See Enclosure 1
1. PURPOSE
JCS Report on POST-CONTROL CONUS: RESTRICTED DISTRIBUTION.
Continuity-13 scenario involves the creation of a series of micro-states under control of
leaders engineered for philosophical strength.
WATCH-TOWER ACTUAL –ACTIVATION REQUEST: JENGA EVENT –
ROGUE TOPSY PROPOSE IMMEDIATE CLEARANCE. TARGET DATE 2046.
Hypothesis Overview: In failure-state conditions for RE-ESTABLISH, MILITARIZE,
and WHEEL-2 contingencies, least-worst-option is accelerate/intensify social
fragmentation. Under this scenario remaining CONTROL elements direct against social-
cultural, media, and infrastructure stability nodes. US undergoes extreme fragmentation
into micro, autonomous units.
CONTROL is re-asserted through the deployment of ideologically, biometrically
controlled prepared leadership.
This document describes the prerequisite resource allocation and technology
development to assess feasibility.
This scenario should be considered high-risk, t-speculative, C^3-I intensive; it represents
a least-worst-case alternative to multiple/cascading failure events.
Critical Success Factors: In a highly-balkanized post-control CONUS social groups will
revert to agrarian / meso-migrational-period structures where personal leadership
characteristics determine eco-mil alignment.
Leaders with key attributes including extreme pragmatism, authoritarian, personal
charisma, bio-superiority-markers, and individualist / monarchist tendencies will
establish self-sufficient communities.
PROGRAM will take advantage of and co-opt this natural progression through
preparation, training, sequester of capable leaders with the requisite attributes. Unlike
naturally occurring leaders PROGRAM leaders will be loyal to, aligned with CONTROL.
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CONTROL EVENT
In the event of a succession-grade EVENT, remaining control structures will implement
JENGA PROTOCOLS:
 Monetary Credibility Gap: Shadow-Bank Run, Media Leak, Public De-Banking.
 Quarantine Engagement: MERSA, Influenza. Air/Mosquito-borne vectors will be
popularized. Check-points established.
 Martial Law / Riot: Engage local LEOs in riot-control. Overwhelm fracture points,
provide militarized support from controlled units.
 Internal Disruptors: Terror cells, racial war, majority-collaborators. Media support
critical.
LEADERSHIP ROLLOUT
SEE ARTIFICAL HUMAN GENOME [KEY WORDS: CRISPR, HUM-EXPANSION,
MAN-UP].
Precis: In order to manage neocameral microstates with continuity and
sustainability over more than one generation the emergent orders will require
philosophy. A governing philosophy with CADRE that is suitable to implement
will be MAXIMAL PRIORITY in re-assembling civilization. As chaos favors the
strong,
The JENGA PROTOCOL aftermath will involve widespread social collapse with high
casualty rates and severe psychological impact. PHASE 2 will require an effective,
coordinated LEADERSHIP ROLLOUT which will require specific high-value traits in
the cadre.
These are:
 Genetic markers for high-IQ: triplet repeat marker (CTGB33)
 Genetic markers for Pragmatism, Low-Empathy: H3K4me3 chromatin marks
 Genetic Markers for Rational Action: UNIDENTIFIED (SEE SUBJECT CASES)
 Genetic Markers for Fearless Dominance & Non-Impulsive Antisociality:
UNIDENTIFIED (SEE SUBJECT CASES)
POST-CONTROL PATTERN: MICRO-STATES
The sustainable POST-CONTROL pattern will seek an island of stability in terms of
defense capability, economic promise, and resistance to corruptive forces (Democracy,
Victim-Sympathy Gaming, Non-Capability-Related Equality, Feminism Radical or
Otherwise, etc.)
These states will need to have social pressures towards 1-generation rulers with a heavy
emphasis on philosophical foundations. They will engage in free trade, have no concept
of innate human-rights, and zero-legislative empathy. PLAN will require a CADRE of
these rulers ready to assume command post-EVENT.
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In two key dimensions the genetic markers for the required aptitudes are
INDETERMINANT. PLAN has identified candidate donors for genetic material with the
required traits. UPDATED PLAN for collection of genetic material APPENDIX C.
Subject Notes Disposition
Land, Nick Nihilist. Expatriated. Foreign assets
can collect.
Yarvin, Curtis Monarchist. Disruptor. Disruption largely nullified
by social immune-system.
Anisimov, Michael Disruptor. Low Grade. Limited
approach.
Steves, Nicholas Racialist. Viable. Not preferred.
Mark Citadel [aka?] Orthodox Militant. Maybe.
Scott Alexander /
Yvain[aka?]
Rationalist. Destructive Altruism
Complex--but superior to
alternate-in-category
Yudkowsky
[ Unknown ] aka [ Last
Psychiatrist ]
Disruptive Rationalist. Probable traits match from
EUCLID Net-seive. Examine
for possible match.
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Components”).
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report on the effectiveness of internal control (IC).
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5. PROCEDURES. See Enclosure 3.
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open the images in a new tab to see the fuller pic.

There's ton more.

What is "Mother Cell?"

What is a concoction that forces a percentage of evolution to Human 2.0 in a remaining Technocracy

VS utilization of the psychic wave produced by the suicide/murder of a world full of people in order for a handful to attempt the jump back to SOURCE to take over?

Dan Smith wrote:Creation is by us, for us and about us..... persons.  We just needed a place to call our home, away from home.  

Oneism is all about discernment....... 

It is about moving toward the light. 

The triple helix of collagens – an ancient protein structure that enabled animal multicellularity and tissue evolution

ABSTRACT

The cellular microenvironment, characterized by an extracellular matrix (ECM), played an essential role in the transition from unicellularity to multicellularity in animals (metazoans), and in the subsequent evolution of diverse animal tissues and organs. A major ECM component are members of the collagen superfamily –comprising 28 types in vertebrates – that exist in diverse supramolecular assemblies ranging from networks to fibrils. Each assembly is characterized by a hallmark feature, a protein structure called a triple helix. A current gap in knowledge is understanding the mechanisms of how the triple helix encodes and utilizes information in building scaffolds on the outside of cells. Type IV collagen, recently revealed as the evolutionarily most ancient member of the collagen superfamily, serves as an archetype for a fresh view of fundamental structural features of a triple helix that underlie the diversity of biological activities of collagens. In this Opinion, we argue that the triple helix is a protein structure of fundamental importance in building the extracellular matrix, which enabled animal multicellularity and tissue evolution.
https://jcs.biologists.org/content/131/7/jcs203950

Ancient knowledge was triadic.  Rife with archetypes & metaphor, allegory, synonym.  
In every tripod there are three legs.  What is the third leg?